The Red Sox announced that right-hander Geoff Hartlieb has been claimed off waivers from the Mets. Hartlieb has been assigned to Boston’s Triple-A affiliate in Worcester.
New York designated Hartlieb for assignment earlier this week, after the righty posted a 14.54 ERA over his 4 1/3 innings in a Mets uniform. This marks the second time Hartlieb has changed teams via waiver claim within the last two months, as the Mets acquired him from the Pirates in early July. For the season as a whole, Hartlieb has an 11.00 ERA over nine combined frames with New York and Pittsburgh.
A lack of control has been the main culprit for Hartlieb’s struggles this season, as he has walked 11 batters over those nine innings. The right-hander also had as many walks (19) as strikeouts (19) over 22 1/3 innings with Pittsburgh in 2020, though Hartlieb managed to evade damage and post a respectable 3.63 ERA.
Hartlieb becomes the latest player acquired by the Red Sox in recent days as the team has sought to rebuild its depth following a widespread COVID-19 outbreak. Beyond just being an extra arm on standby, Hartlieb also offers some interesting potential. Though he has yet to show much over his three MLB seasons, Hartlieb has a 3.18 ERA over 62 1/3 career innings at the Triple-A level, with a 28.73% strikeout rate and very high grounder rates.
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They’ve got to make a decision on Feltman anyway this offseason and he’s looked a lot better this year, why not him? Even Kaleb Ort rather than someone with zip control an entire milb career?
GASoxFan
More just throwing things at a wall, see if they stick.
Realistically, as much as I disapprove of bloom, I think (and hope) Hartlieb is cannon fodder. If you’re down 8 runs, or up 8 runs, you toss a guy like this in. If he gets a few outs great.
If they use him like that, ok. If they don’t even use him and release him, OK.
If he’s in during a 3 run lead in the 8th there’s a problem.
FletcherFan66
They just need a warm body until the sniffly boys come back from covid. He’ll be DFAed unless he’s really impressive. Sox need to open 7 spots on the 40 man when everyone comes back, and they’d rather expose Hartlieb to waivers than Feltman.
GASoxFan
IIRC, Covid-related 40-man moves don’t require exposing the guys or their replacements to waivers to put on and off.
Feltman wasn’t going to be exposed to waivers even if he was added.
JoeBrady
I was just thinking of Feltman. He shot thru A and A+ like a rocket, then completely derailed. I thought it would take a year for him to be our closer, then boom!
spitball
Some idiot from NESN puts up on the screen, a blurb about Ottovino not allowing a home run in the longest number of innings in RedSox history! Next pitch, Franmil Reyes takes him over the Monster.
Dorothy_Mantooth
I hate when they jinx players like that! Only the PGA announcers might be worse than MLB announcers when it comes to this.
Rough outing for Otto today. Blows a 3-0 lead in the 9th…yikes!
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
I think it’s just timing. We should be okay. Had a ton of bad stints in a row, we were due for four wins. Our bullpen isn’t always terrible, it’s just feast or famine.
deweybelongsinthehall
I’m late to the discussion but jinx? I suppose seeing a black cat (or rat) inside the monster will cause the scorekeeper on the ladder to fall and break his leg.
leefieux
Jinxes are anecdotal. I have seen thousands of those types of blurbs on TV and the ‘jinx’ never happens. People just remember the few times it does, ergo, it’s a jinx.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
I’m not in any way defending Bloom overall. He makes a lot of questionable deals, some have fared great (and I’ll give him credit), some not so much. But, we really can’t lose from this one (like many others). It’s a minor deal that could pan out. Like Austin Davis, he’s had success in AAA and hasn’t tackled the big leagues in a large enough sample size. Could be a diamond in the rough, could be nothing. Not a bad gamble.
deweybelongsinthehall
Bloom has done remarkably well given the financial and minor league mess he inherited.
AL34
ERA 15,00 !!! Wow ! Another bullseye pickup for Bloom. Throw it against the wall snd see if it sticks !
KD17
102 crap players with the same mantra….. hope he sticks. Bloom can take his pennies and toss them in whatever wishing well he prefers. Guys in the minors still only have two ways to have value:
1 – They graduate and provide value for the MLB club
2 – They are traded to get a MLB player that is needed by the MLB club
102 crap players later and NOT ONE has added significant value to the MLB team.
That’s not success!!!! That’s abject failure. All the hoping in the world isn’t bringing this team a valuable player. Bloom’s batting average is lower than most of the prospects he’s picked up. The farm system is filled with more stench than I can remember.
Look for the pre=Bloom guys to be the value adds. Bloom’s wishing well is dry.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
We literally lost nothing to give it a try… just saying.
JoeBrady
5 of our top 9 bWAR players are Bloom guys.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
This guy’s a negative Nelly. He will say anything to be negative at any time.
KD17
pwndroia – They are facts. If they are negative that’s on Bloom.
JB – Write in meaningful terms. 5 of our top 9 bWAR players are Bloom guys? Let me ask? How many starters are Bloom guys? Let me guess FIVE? So all the starters that Bloom brought in are in the top 9 in bWAR because they start. Is that supposed to impress me? It’s meaningless drivel. Use real baseball stats when trying to make your points.
Here’s some facts:
5 of the 9 starters are from DD and 4 were acquired by Bloom
Top hitters include based on OPS+
1 – Devers 132 = INHERITED by Bloom
2 – Bogaerts 128 = INHERITED by Bloom
3 – JD 127 – INHERITED by Bloom
4 – Renfroe 114 – ACQUIRED by Bloom
5 – Hernandez 114 – ACQUIRED by Bloom
6 – Verdugo 110 = ACQUIRED by Bloom to replace MOOKIE
7 – Arroyo 104 – ACQUIRED by Bloom
8 – Dalbec 98 – INHERITED by Bloom also a rookie
9 – Vazquez 76 – INHERITED by Bloom
To summarize the Red Sox have 3 elite players inherited by Bloom.
The Red Sox have 5 near league average players 4 from Bloom and 1 Rookie he inherited from DD.
Did I mention that Baseball Reference also lists 13 other players that have contributed to the Red Sox this year? 11 from Bloom and two from prior to Bloom (Chavis and Duran (Rookie)).
The OPS+ values for the Bloom acquired players are:
-51 Munoz (5 games)
33 Cordero (47 games)
48 Lopez (5 games)
49 Santana (35 games)
52 Gonzales (77 games)
53 Motter (2 games)
57 Arauz (25 games)
:104 Plawecki (53 games)
134 Wong (5 games)
146 Shaw (12 games)
170 Schwarber (20 games)
The 3 players that Bloom brought to the team that are performing well in the debuts are Wong (5 games only), Shaw (12 games) and Schwarber (20 games). The recent acquisitions of Shaw and Schwarber have impacted the team more than the four starters acquired by Bloom who have played most of the season. 114 is the top number from his starters.
So to net it out DD provided Bloom with his top 3 performers for the season. Bloom acquired two players at the deadline that have hit well. Bloom has acquired 15 total hitters and still has 7 remaining players from before he arrived. So basically, 2/3rds of the team is a direct result of Blooms actions and 1/3 is inherited.
OPS+ breakdown:
Under 80 = Bloom 7 Inherited 3 – SIGNIFICANTLY POOR YEARS
80-120 = Bloom 5 Inherited 1 ROUGHLY LEAGUE AVERAGE
Over 120 – Bloom 3 (Schwarber, Shaw, Wong 5 games) Inherited 3 who played the full season not 20 games or less. OUTSTANDING
22 roster spots and Bloom added 7 below league average players!!
10 of the 22 players are significantly below league average
6 are roughly league average
6 are significantly above league average albeit 3 of the six which are from Bloom have had 20 games or less while the other inherited 3 have all had at least 130 games of the high OPS+
Do these facts seem negative? I say YES. They are negative but they are facts so am I being negative by presenting them? Apparently that’s the way you think when someone presents you with facts that don’t fit the picture you are trying to fabricate. Dismiss the person for being negative!!! If only that would change the facts!!! But it doesn’t.
Bloom has done a miserable job stocking the roster with league average or better players. The numbers don’t lie when presented in whole. No cherry picking here JB, the Bloom group sucks compared to the inherited group. That’s on Bloom and ownership..
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
You left out the fact that the foundation is there and Bloom can add players and take chances without hurting too much production. I agree that not all the players he acquires are fantastic, but the foundation is there and his low risk deals may or may not help us at the expense of not costing us. You conveniently left that piece out.
Just think if we signed Mookie. We would be tied to that large contract for years, whether it worked out or not. Anyone Bloom has signed we can cut and it won’t detrimentally hurt us.
deweybelongsinthehall
KD reminds me of the talkative professor I had in college. He spoke so much that nothing he said was actually heard. Thank God for Cliff Notes for that one class. Anyone volunteer to re-write I. less words KD’s future posts?
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
It’s not so much the facts. KD lists a lot of great facts but his negativity goes beyond the stats. He doesn’t even clearly state who the positives are that Bloom signed, he just conveniently bashes Bloom, without recognizing that half the signings are low risk and can’t hurt us. Shaw is on his supposed “good list” but I vaguely remember him bashing Shaw weeks ago.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
I should also state that I never held Bloom in high regards. I have too questioned him on a lot of deals but have not gone to extremes. The fact that we are in a playoff spot with this roster is remarkable and I give Bloom credit where credit is due…
Do I like everything Bloom does? No. Probably 50/50 on him but look where we are. We were supposed to be in fourth place with a losing record.
JoeBrady
pwndroia9 hours ago
It’s not so much the facts. KD lists a lot of great facts
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Not really.
KD says that Bloom brought nothing to the team.
I tell him that 5 of the 9 bWAR players are Bloom players.
KD’s response is to list the same players by OPS rather than by WAR. So the top 3 players are now pre-Bloom, but those three have little or no defensive value. It does nothing to negate what I posted. The Bloom guys have provided roughly half the WAR at a fraction of the price.
Past that KD bashes every Bloom move. If I can tell a person what they are going to say, before they say it, it is a waste of brain cells.
JoeBrady
pwndroia9 hours ago
Shaw is on his supposed “good list” but I vaguely remember him bashing Shaw weeks ago.
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Go to any thread about any RS acquisition. On virtually every thread, GASoxfan, KD, Parks, and AL34 will hate the move. It won’t make any difference who the player is, they will hate the move.
whyhayzee
1/2 game behind the yankees. With the bullpen and middle infield in quarantine. All Bloom and Cora. Thanks guys, you’ve done a great job.
Bloom: Here’s another guy who stinks.
Cora: OK, we’ll make it work somehow.
And so it goes. Upward.
JoeBrady
It’s like the Motter addition that the haters hated. It allowed us to PH for Lopez, then use Motter as the PR, and steal a win from Cleveland.
whyhayzee
Nothing like being pessimistic before you even need to be.
KD17
whyhayzee – You do realize that a realist isn’t a pessimistic because the future is grim? I think you are confused. Realistically, the talent level is down. It will take a miracle for the team to win. They don’t have the talent to win. That doesn’t mean it won’t happen, it just means it’s highly unlikely that it will happen.
I keep saying to you big time believers, look at the schedule ahead. If the Red Sox are still in a wildcard spot on on Sept 17th after the next 9 games then they have a strong chance to finish as a wildcard. That’s a huge if but miracles do happen so nobody is ruling it out. The probabilities suggest it won’t happen but the future is never certain.
JoeBrady
KD1714 hours ago
I keep saying to you big time believers, look at the schedule ahead.
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I keep telling you what the schedule is, but for some reason, you ignore the numbers. Do I need to tell you the winning % of our opponents?