Giants lefty Jose Quintana and righty Jake Jewell have both elected free agency, per the MiLB.com transactions log. Both are largely procedural moves. Quintana would have been a free agent after the World Series anyhow based on service time. Jewell, meanwhile, was outrighted off the 40-man roster for the second time in his career earlier this month — and a second outright grants a player the right to reject in favor of free agency.
Quintana, 32 this offseason, was a waiver claim late in the year as the Giants looked for ways to stockpile pitching depth after the trade deadline. He posted an ERA north of 8.00 as a starter, mostly with the Angels, but notched a 4.18 ERA with a 28.3% strikeout rate and 7.5% walk rate in 28 relief innings. Some clubs may want to give the once-steady Quintana another chance to bounce back in the rotation, but that K-BB% in 28 bullpen innings could generate some interest as a reliever, given a fairly thin crop of lefty relief options on the market this offseason.
Jewell, too, is a former Angel — though his time with the Halos didn’t overlap with that of Quintana. The 28-year-old righty was a fifth-round pick by the Angels back in 2016 and was considered one of the organization’s more promising arms for several years. He’s yet to find success in the big leagues, though, pitching to a 7.75 ERA in 38 1/3 innings — including a 9.90 mark in 10 frames this year.
Jewell fared much better in Triple-A this season, splitting time between the Giants, Cubs and Dodgers organizations and working to a combined 3.40 ERA in 45 frames. He also fanned nearly 27 percent of his opponents and allowed just four homers in an offensively-charged environment, albeit with a somewhat bloated 10.2 percent walk rate. Jewell averaged a bit shy of 95 mph on his heater in his brief big league look this winter and will garner some interest as a depth option on minor league deals.
No one cares. Those guys suck.
Yet you cared enough to read the article and comment on it.
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Major league baseball players, by virtue of being major league baseball players, do not suck at baseball.
Quintana used to be quite good if I recall correctly. Was hoping he’d have a nice run with SF(which could still happen, they surely still need more rotation/bullpen arms for 2022).
There are worse options than Quintana for a reclamation project, and stranger things have happened than a guy with Quintana’s history putting together a nice season or two despite being past his prime.
Ofc I’m hoping for a Trevor Rogers/Logan Webb/Robbie Ray/DeScalfani/Wood(or Syndergaard on a 1yr “prove you can pitch for a full season” type of deal worth around the qualifying offer($18.5m).
Ofc that’d mean the giants get Robbie Ray, miss out on Gausman, and somehow trade for Trevor Rogers from the Marlins.
I’d also be cool with doing a trade that’d cost SF significantly less in assets for Sandy Alcantra, but i think a trade with Miami is necessary for quality pitching as the FA market doesn’t look great unless they want older guys. Gausman and Robbie Ray are the best options going into free agency, if you look at the combo of age+recent success. Giants are RHP heavy with Webb(LMAO) so Robbie Ray and Trevor Rogers would be two high quality lefties.
Rogers is under club control for some time, meaning I’d also hope to see a Corey Seager+Starling Marte+Belt+Posey FA but that’s because I’m a fan and that’d be an exciting team. Put Seager in LF, or go Chris Taylor and Seager because Corey Seager guys that’d be wild! Longo’s under contract for one more uear(2022) and he might even be an asset this next season, but at least the bullpen looks good, they have guys like Wade, Ruf, Craw, Estrada, Yaz, Webb, Doval, Tyler Rogers(no relation to the aforementioned Trevor Rogers), and several other dynamic players, as well as a farm system with interesting cats.
I’m really just praying Joey Bart is in Miami by January. If we get Alcantra, great. If we get Trevor Roger, fantastic! But hopefully we nab one of the two, without moving prospects like Marco Luciano, Heliot Ramos, Patrick Bailey, or the new Bednar Bro.
Hoping the Marlins are just buck-wild on Bart and Matos hahaha
Ugly troll. Go back to your cave. Play video games and rub one out loser.
Some team will take a chance on JAKE.
At the bottom of the scrap heap,
Everybody thinks they may find a hidden
JEWELL !!
A Richard Jewell.
So is Jake a Jewell in the rough?
Only on the LINKS !!
There is no end to the number of guys who can throw 95 but can’t hit the plate. Some of them figure it out but most end up coaching high school or college ball.
Quintana may have value as a long reliever. His FIP isn’t awful.
I hope he comes back to the giants org – he is the result of small sample there where he had 1 bad outing but was otherwise pretty good
Man, the way the Halos develop pitching and the way pitchers have come to Anaheim and imploded the past 10 years or so, I’d take a flier on both these guys if I were a GM.
Maybe, but I’m still trying to figure out the hype over Quintana a couple years back
He was an above average pitcher for a number of years and folks held out hope for even more development. He’s had a very successful major league career, unless you are of the mindset that every pitcher needs to be ace level to be considered good.
Decent number 3-4 starter at best. Shows how weak depth starters are.
Take a look at his CWS stats and say that again
From 2013-2017 he was more than a decent #3-#4 at best.
Pitched 200+ innings from 2013-2016 and 188 in 2017
ERA low to mid 3’s
FIP was Low to mid 3’s
Made all his starts and was a workhorse.
Good #2 and excellent #3 type production, do you even look at his past production?
Tired dude –
Ask the Cubs!!
They wanted Q for a reason to be willing to be fleeced by Hahn!
Cease and Jimenez havent exactly taken the league by storm. Was Quintana a bust for the Cubs? Yea but it looks less and less bad over time.
Eloy has had some bad injury luck, but when he was healthy last year, he won a Silver Slugger. Cease has improved markedly since coming into the league. His ERA+ has gone from 79 to 111. His WHIP has dropped from 1.548 to 1.440 to 1.249 this year. His K/9 rate led the league at 12.3 and his HR rate has dropped from 1.8 his rookie year and 1.9 last year to 1.1 this year. There’s work left to do – he needs to attack guys and stop walking so many – but he has at least #2 potential, maybe #1. Either of those guys would have swung the deal in the Sox’ favor. Both makes it a huge win.
The Cubs made up for it through the Kimbrel trade, in my opinion.
Remains to be seen however sure looks like you’re right. Heuer for Kimbrel with the salary difference was a deal. White Sox ended up throwing in one of baseballs best contact hitters for free. Let’s see if Madrigal can regain his health and stay in the lineup. Would not be surprised if both Horner and Madrigal are injury prone. Time will tell.
Cubs needed Quintana to get to post season at 2017. He helped them accomplished that. He helped them get their division’ first place against a Brewers team that were leading the division. Also, helped them to get to the NLCS. Somekind of a Chapman trade, but not with the same final results. Unless I don’t see, in the forthcoming 5 seasons, two or three World Series Championships from the White Sox, helped by Jimenez and Cease, or either see at least one of them, in the HOF, for me it wasn’t such a disastrous trade. I can’t care less about ex-Cubs-now-White Sox fans opinion. Of course the Cubs should have parted from Eloy then, an injury prone DH, who had no place in their team at that moment (maybe he would now, after the fire dump selling) but at least, Cease would have been a decent 4th starting pitcher or a trade piece for something maybe later. As neither, I do no dare to say the Kimbrell trade was a gain in the Cubs side, unless in this case one of either Madrigal or the pitcher they received will accomplish anything in a Cub uniform.
Since they are free agents now, can they sign with any team if they choose? Or do they still have to wait until end of season?
Quintana, another horrible off-season move by the Angels.
I don’t know why the Angels are so averse to spending on pitching. You can’t outslug everyone and nobody’s figured out a way to clone Mike Trout yet. I don’t know what Moreno’s stats people are telling him that makes him think pitching just isn’t that important.
It’s Moreno himself. The Front Office names change often, but the same mindset persists. He’s the common denominator
And as far as why, I think it is as simple as pitchers arent as flashy. They don’t pitch every game, and don’t often have the highlight moment he loves. His targets he makes his GMs aquire are usually hitters that have recently had significant highlight moments.
There is also probably an element of once bitten going on though too, I’m sure. In another thread I figured out the last Free Agent SP we’ve given a 2+ year contract to was Joe Blanton in 2012. The year prior we signed CJ Wilson. Neither deal worked out that well for the Angels, with neither playing the last year of their contracts. It appears he may have since talked himself into a “I’m not making that mistake again” mindset. The Angels haven’t given any pitchers more than 1 year contracts since those two
There were 2 good pitchers on the market in Cole and Wheeler and Wheeler had HUGE question marks. They went after Cole hard.
First off, Cole was signed in 2020, Quintana in 2021
But “They went after Cole hard” …based off what the team claims
They then used the money allotted to Cole to sign Rendon for 3B, a player they came to an agreement with the same day Cole signed
So assuming we can believe them when they say they actually tried to get Cole, who was the secondary FA Pitching option? And who were the FA Reliever options? …we needed multiple Starters and Relievers, so who all did we sign?
More than 50 Starters and 100 Relievers were on the FA market …who did the Angels get?
SP Julio Teheran, with his rapidly declining velocity and results leading to a typical for the Angels, one year show me contract
RP Ryan Buchter, to a minor league contract. We mercifully released him before the season was over
That’s it. With over 150 pitchers available on the FA market, and with the club needing multiple of them, that was their only lands
Outside our needing to take their word that they genuinely tried to get Cole, we have no evidence they tried to land pitching other than their typical bargain bin shopping, as they do yearly. The results on the season were similarly the same as they always are.
By the way, the 2020 Angels ranked 4th in the AL West and 9th in the AL in projected Starter WAR to start the season. They finished the season in 4th place in the West and 9th in the AL
Jewelleries could be next year’s Cousin. I think he could become a decent bullpen arm
Quintana, SP depth for the Mets.