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Brewers’ Enviable Rotation Depth Could Open Trade Possibilities For Front Office

By Anthony Franco | January 4, 2022 at 6:51pm CDT

The Brewers’ star rotation trio of Corbin Burnes, Brandon Woodruff and Freddy Peralta has drawn plenty of well-deserved attention. Burnes won the NL Cy Young Award for his excellence in 2021. Woodruff and Peralta were well-deserved All-Star selections, with the former also receiving a solid amount of Cy Young support.

Essentially no one else around the league can match that kind of firepower at the top of the rotation. But Burnes, Woodruff and Peralta weren’t the only Milwaukee starters to have strong showings in 2021. Fourth and fifth starters Adrian Houser and Eric Lauer may not have been as electric as their rotation mates, but they’re both overqualified for back-end roles.

Houser pitched to a 3.22 ERA over a career-high 142 1/3 innings last season. The righty’s 17.5% strikeout rate wasn’t impressive, but Houser’s a ground-ball machine who’s had a decent amount of success despite mediocre whiff rates throughout his career. He owns a solid 3.78 ERA since the start of 2019, showing a knack for suppressing opponents’ exit velocities and keeping the ball in the yard.

Lauer came over from the Padres as part of the Trent Grisham – Luis Urías swap over the 2019-20 offseason. He barely pitched in the majors during his first season in Milwaukee, but the southpaw held down a rotation spot for most of last year. Across 118 2/3 frames, Lauer posted a 3.19 ERA that was far and away the best mark of his career. His strikeout and walk rates — 23.9% and 8.4%, respectively — were right around the respective league averages.

Unlike Houser, Lauer doesn’t excel at keeping the ball on the ground. A 4.24 SIERA suggests he’s probably closer to a league average rotation arm than his ERA — which befits a #2/3 type starter — might suggest. Even still, league average production would be a notable upgrade for many clubs’ starting staffs around the league. There are quite a few hopeful contenders expected to look for back-of-the-rotation help coming out of the lockout, and there’s not much reliability with the remaining free agent starters. Teams like the Reds and A’s might make notable starters available, but clubs looking for back-end help could also view the Brewers as a plausible trade partner.

Milwaukee’s squarely in win-now mode, and there’s a case to be made for them to hold onto their rotation depth. Each of Burnes, Woodruff, Peralta, Houser and Lauer made 20+ starts last year, and the injury risk associated with any pitcher could make banking on a repeat of that kind of rotation durability risky. On the other hand, Milwaukee also has another promising young arm who could step into a permanent rotation role.

Aaron Ashby has been one of the top prospects in the Brewers system for the past few seasons. Public prospect evaluators have raised some questions about his spotty control, but Ashby has the kind of stuff to succeed against MLB hitters already. He debuted last season and flashed special ability. His 4.55 ERA over 31 2/3 innings isn’t eye-catching, but Ashby struck out 29.3% of opponents and racked up ground-balls at a massive 61.3% clip that even slightly exceeded Houser’s mark. Only White Sox setup man Aaron Bummer matched Ashby’s combination of strikeouts and grounders.

That alone doesn’t guarantee Ashby will be an impact starter. There’d be risk in moving one of Houser or Lauer to entrust him with a full-time rotation spot. But the Brewers at least have to be encouraged by the promise Ashby showed, and a Houser or Lauer trade could enable the front office to creatively address the offense. Milwaukee’s lineup was a touch below-average last season, and they’ve since lost Avisaíl García to free agency. The Brewers acquired Hunter Renfroe to replace García in right field, but the overall lineup could stand to pick up another bat, particularly if the new collective bargaining agreement adds the designated hitter to the National League.

Houser and Lauer are each entering their first season of arbitration eligibility. Assuming there aren’t any changes to the service time structure in the next CBA, they’d remain controllable through 2024. Both pitchers are projected by MLBTR contributor Matt Swartz for modest salaries between $2MM and $3MM next season. With Burnes, Woodruff, Peralta and Ashby all controllable for at least three more years themselves, the Brewers could contemplate dealing from their enviable rotation depth to bolster the offense after the transactions freeze.

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  1. someoldguy

    3 years ago

    The Twins should gladly trade prospects or “established” players for a pitcher or 2… Sayno would look good in another Uniform… Rooker, Larnach. please. take them away.. Donaldson… meaningless… because contrary totheir words… re-tooling is rebuilding.. and the twins are in need of a rebuild.. starting with the Owner, the FO, the field staff and their pitching ranks…. Pitching is the core of championship quality teams… have 2 aces at the top of your rotation.. and you always have a chance to win a season and a series..

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    • DarkSide830

      3 years ago

      The anger at Larnach at this point seems silly. give him time.

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      • someoldguy

        3 years ago

        He is a slow footed slow reacting weak armed DH at best.. he is cannon fodder… they should have traded him before they exposed …

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        • mlb1225

          3 years ago

          According to you. He was a first round pick in 2019 and was ranked as FanGraphs’ 34th best prospect going into 2021. At the end of 2020, MLB Pipeline had him as the 77th best prospect. He also had a .791 OPS throughout his first 186 plate appearances.

          Larnach is far from cannon fodder. He was a consensus top 100 prospect at the start of 2021. It was his first taste of big league action. Not every player is going to have a Ronald Acuna season out of the gates. You are greatly underselling Larcnach if you think he’s just an extra player wasting a roster spot.

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        • someoldguy

          3 years ago

          if you think that he is anything special.. you didn’t watch him.. His defense is unreparable.. he is a DH at BEST.. DH’s are a dime a dozen … cannon fodder.. You can lead the league in Home runs.. and be unemployed the next season…

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        • mlb1225

          3 years ago

          A good DH is definitley not a dime a dozen. The guy had a hot start to the season and tailed off some in the second half. Now it’s up to him to adjust. He didn’t grade out as a bad defender in left field with +1 OAA. OAA is measured based on the amount of ground a player had to cover, how fast they had to run to get to the ball, and catch probability. It’s pretty accurate as there is a definitive way to measure. Not claiming he’s a DH, but maybe you’re just remebering some bad routes he took that were costly.

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        • someoldguy

          3 years ago

          defensive stats on a few balls are meaningless… the eye test says he stinks.. his breaks are terrible.. his reads are terrible.. the only plays he made was coming in.. anyone can come in.. even Josh Willingham could come in… his arm is beyond suspect… and who said he’d be a good DH… certainly not me.. I have watched players come and go for over 50 years… the Twins will not miss him at all… he won’t be any better or if as good as Chris Parmelee or Oswaldo Arcia… 2 guys I begged they trade before the value wore off.. ( they weren’t that smart..) .. they have better and they need to trade for pitching… maybe they can find a GM who thinks like you to offload this lemon on..

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        • mlb1225

          3 years ago

          That’s over 450 innings in left field. Not the largest sample size, but far from just a few attempts. I’ll take what the experts said, ranking him as a top 100 prospect who’s jobs are to watch these guys and evaluate them rather than what one fan, who seems to have an overly negative biased view on the matter. Clearly, Larnach isn’t as bad as you think. Solid first half with the bat, might not be a Gold Glover, but eyes can play tricks on you. I’ll also take what the quantifiable defensive metrics say about his defensive ability rather than the eye test.

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        • Jbigz12

          3 years ago

          Larnach needs to provide all his value offensively.

          Realistically the ceiling isn’t super high. He isn’t “cannon fodder” but he needs to hit well to provide value.

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        • someoldguy

          3 years ago

          one number tells you nothing statistically.. if you were the expert you are claiming you’d know that.. so a simple swing to Fangraphs.. and we find: Uzr -2.8, UZR 150 -6.8, ARM -1.5… ( and these numbers are based upon the same very small sample size.. 74 plays… and several he never made because he wasn’t in the vicinity of the ball they weren’t recorded… yet a decent fielder would have… anybody can come in… meaningless.. its how you move laterally and go back that counts.. I know what I saw.. you weren’t watching..

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    • to4

      3 years ago

      Rebuild? They only need Pitching to compete!

      They got Kirilloff, Larnach, Buxton and Kepler OF

      Donaldson, Polanco, Lewis, Sano, Garver in the INF. I’ll say, they only need some pitching and maybe bring Cruz back on a 1 year deal!

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      • someoldguy

        3 years ago

        Kirilloff.. is slated for 1st base.. Larnach is slated for a dfa.. Kepler has only hit right handed pitching, Sayno is the worst starting 1st base in the league defensively, Polanco is the worst starting 2b in the league defensively… Lewis is a unknown… having never played in the MLB.. Donaldson is an injury… Buxton s 1 injury from retirement.. and the have zero pitching… and no pitchers who want to sign here because they have no defense… and while they may claim competing is the name of the game…. the name of the game is WINNING… .. this isn’t the special olympics.. where participation is winning… .. this is a pro sports and being a door mat is just bad for the game..

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  2. Astros2017&22Champs

    3 years ago

    Obviously christian yelich refinding his mvp form is huge but man is there a bigger story than keston hiura for the brewers? I’m a believer in his bat. He’s a pure hitter but man did he struggle. Getting those 2 guys right for next year could get the brew crew to the fall classic.

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    • JoeBrady

      3 years ago

      is there a bigger story than keston hiura for the brewers?
      ==================================
      They promoted him too young. For all the talk about restricting service time, there are probably more guys out there promoted before they are ready. He had a 64/23 K/W in AAA. That’s 2.8. So when he goes to the pros and has a 107/25, that should hardly come as a surprise.

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  3. Duffy S. Cliff

    3 years ago

    Without their pitching, the Brewers would not have made the playoffs last year. Their offense was that bad, and their pitching was that good. That starting 5 is great, and controllable, and so enviable. They already made an offensive upgrade swapping JBJ for Renfroe, but they’ll have to do more. And parting with some of this incredible pitching, may just be something they’ll have to do.

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    • tstats

      3 years ago

      They really did trade the worst hitter last year for IMO a top 100 hitter in baseball

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      • bostonbob

        3 years ago

        T stats, you are correct. And Aside from pink hats the real fans are not happy about it. Enjoy Hunter this year.

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        • JoeBrady

          3 years ago

          I followed them since ’67. I’m fine with the trade. It’s a gamble, but he only needs to return to about a .675 OPS to make it worth it.

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      • nitnontu

        3 years ago

        Definitely a relief to get Bradley’s bat out of what was already a not very impressive offense last year, but the long term cost of the trade has me worried. I understand Brewers gave up some pretty good prospects

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        • colonel flagg

          3 years ago

          I thought I saw these prospects were ranked in the teens. Their farm system, although better than where it was a few years ago is still somewhat mediocre. These players may still turn out to be pretty good, but the club saw them every day. If they determined that they were worth giving up to get out from that contract so be it.

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    • Stormintazz

      3 years ago

      Disagree completely. The Brewers did NOT upgrade offense. It was NOT JBJ for Renfroe. It was Renfroe for Garcia. The offense is no better than last year.
      Stearns has a window with this pitching. He needs to go all in. Stop with the cheap bats that are low risk high reward.

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  4. watup0100

    3 years ago

    Team has been trading too much lately, losing many prospects for the future. Dealing from their strength makes sense on paper, but a small market team built well like this cannot afford to keep trading all the time.

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  5. jimmyz

    3 years ago

    Brewers should keep the starting depth. No reason to assemble the backbone of a contending team just to take it apart. If anything this should be the year they move Hader at the trade deadline for a massive haul.

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    • MannyPineappleExpress9

      3 years ago

      Or, keep him too and not create a glaring hole in the bullpen.

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      • jimmyz

        3 years ago

        My thoughts on a Hader trade are that they team likely won’t let him play out his contract and only receive draft compensation when he turns down the QO if they know they can get multiple pieces for him in a trade. Therefore he’s presumably being traded next offseason anyway. The Brewers’ bullpen isn’t just a one man show, there’s several other quality arms besides Hader and teams looking for bullpen help would love having him for two playoff runs instead of one. I get that it would be a real tough call to make at the deadline if the team is fighting for a playoff spot but it might be the best move for the team in order to improve the offense to match the pitching.

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      • l41db4ck

        3 years ago

        Wouldn’t be a glaring hole by trading Hader. Williams would be ready to step in.

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        • colonel flagg

          3 years ago

          Possibly, but then who gets the 8th?

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        • l41db4ck

          3 years ago

          Cousins. I’m sure they will sign more bullpen depth as well, just like they picked Boxberger and Strickland off the scrap heap last year.

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        • colonel flagg

          3 years ago

          If they’re in the chase at the deadline I would hesitate to mess with the back end of that bullpen. I would argue that the success of the starters and the team itself has a great deal to do with the ability of the back end of the pen to essentially make it a 6 inning game.
          Now if the season goes pear-shaped at that point, I’m all for getting what you can.

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    • mlb1225

      3 years ago

      I agree with your first statement. Defintiley shouldn’t trade from what is essentially their biggest strength when they don’t have any super glaring holes. I’d only move one of the starters for a kings ransom. Hader on the other hand, it really depends where they are at the deadline. If they have a very outside chance of landing a 2nd WC spot then yeah, I’d consider moving him for a haul. He’ll have just 1.5 years of control left and will command a massive haul at the deadline. On the other hand, if you’re in the thick of a playoff race, you don’t trade him.

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      • Samuel

        3 years ago

        @ mlb1225;

        Under Stearns, the Brewers MO is to be patient – wait to see what’s cheap in the market that they can use. They are also notorious for in-season trades.

        At this date is silly to speculate on what they’ll do. It depends on how well they’re playing, what players are injured and need their production replaced, etc. But it does appear that they enter the 2022 season as legitimate WS contenders.

        As for their supposed lack of offense – they have some of the best pitching and defense in MLB. They don’t need to score even an average amount of runs to win games. If they need a big bat during the season, more than one will be available for far less of a price than one of their elite starters.

        When they do trade one of those starters the reason will be because they’re coming up for a major salary increase, and the Brewers as a small market club will do what the Guardians do – move one or two of them for a grab bag of prospects and promote some of their younger pitchers that have years of control.

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        • Bud Selig Fan

          3 years ago

          @Samuel — spot on post about my team.

          The Brewers are the sleeping giant of MLB. They’re offense will be better than at any point last season, even the middle portion post-Adames/Tellez when they were among the leaders in runs scored for a 2/3 month period of time and soared to 30+ games over .500. With a better offense added to the best run prevention team in baseball this is one scary team.

          Also agree with your guardians comparison. I believe when Stearns finds the right deal for Woodruff, he’s traded, and for his likely future replacement plus much more. It could happen as early as this offseason, but more likely next offseason, Same with Burnes, if the return blows him away. This will extend their contention well into the future.

          Woodruff to Seattle for:
          Kirby & Kelenic

          Seattle wants to speed up their WS contention time period. 3 years of a top 10 starter should help achieve that. Brewers get their future Woodruff replacement and a core player for the next 4-5 years. Who says no?

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        • nitnontu

          3 years ago

          I agree that if Brewers “need a big bat during the season, more than one will be available for far less of a price than one of their elite starters”. But I believe the article was about trading last year’s #4 or #5 starters who were both very good but not elite. I don’t think it would be a bad idea to at least consider trading either of them preseason while their value is high in order to get an offensive upgrade that can contribute from start of season

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        • blockheag36

          3 years ago

          The Brewers are no sleeping giant. They are a small market Cinderella in their contention window. They are up against it budget wise and have a weak farm system. They have not really improved before the transaction freeze. I’m sure they will make some fringe moves and be near the top of the NL central in 2022. Soon after that their pitching will be to expensive and the will be back to square one.
          Also, No way Seattle makes that trade.
          Woodruff is not a top 10 starter to start with. Seattle would want more just for Kelenic because prospects are over valued.

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        • Bud Selig Fan

          3 years ago

          Between Woodruff & Burnes BTV has $270MM in surplus value. $110MM to Woodruff alone. Kelenic & Kirby are listed at slightly less than $100MM combined, so your Kelenic is worth Woodruff alone doesn’t fly.

          They have a top 10 farm positionally, bottom 3 with pitching, ends up being about 20 overall. But Stearns can replace and extend the teams great starting pitching by the strategic trading of Woodruff-Burnes-Houser & Lauer before the end of the 2025 season. Remember, this team has an elite pitching development system, that will help their pitchers improve as much or more than any team in baseball.

          This strategy will keep the payroll well within previous levels, and help extend their contention indefinitely. Stearns doesn’t believe in SM “contention windows” and has consistently rostered contending teams 5 years running and with no end in sight.

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        • blockheag36

          3 years ago

          First you again discount how teams are valuing top prospects. Kelelic was a top ten prospect and Kirby is top 35 per MLB top 100. Teams aren’t moving those players. As far as the Brewers farm system, you must be looking through brewers rose colored glasses as they don’t have a top ten position player group. Outside of Mitchell and Frelick there is nothing. It’s the worst position group in your division let alone alone all of baseball.

          Contention indefinite? That’s bold. I agree Stearns is great at fielding a team that is competitive and can make the playoffs. But as you have seen evidenced, they will always have too many holes to fill to win a title. Milwaukee can’t afford more than 1 player @ 20M+ and how long before you have to pay someone other than Yelich? They are already talking about having to trade Hader because he’s going to make 10M.
          The economics don’t add up for the Brewers to have more than 1 or 2 more shots. See the KC Royals 2014 & 2015. That’s your model.
          If you want to cheer for a small market team with a chance, be a Cardinals fan.

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  6. BBB

    3 years ago

    You mention Lauer’s SIERA, only fair to point out Houser’s was much higher at 4.73 despite the similar ERAs.

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  7. Jjfleury

    3 years ago

    Never can have too much pitching. I could see them flipping Lauer to the Twins for a Luis Araez type, but I think that would be a huge overpay for the Twins. I think Araez has batting titles in his future.

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  8. Backup Catcher to the Backup Catcher

    3 years ago

    Keep the starting pitchers. You can never have too much depth. hey if they were nine or ten deep, well, then, yeah, go ahead a trade one.

    Brewers will be very scary if Yelich and Hiura hit like they are supposed to hit. Three years ago I would have predicted one or both of these guys would be competing for a batting title each year.

    One possible solution? Hire Howie Kendrick to work with Hiura.

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  9. chace alexander

    3 years ago

    You could deal a guy like Houser to the White Sox for a couple mid tier AAA guys. No need to keep a dude like Adolfo around if we can get a big GB arm.

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  10. to4

    3 years ago

    The Twins are loaded with young talent guys, just be patient.

    1.Polanco 2B
    2.Lewis SS
    3.Buxton CF
    4.Donaldson DH
    5.Kepler RF
    6.Sano 1B
    7.Garver C
    8.Martin 3B
    9.Kirilloff/Larnach LF

    That still is a competitive lineup and a start of the transition for the young talent. No need to panic people!

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