7:39 pm: Drellich adds that MLB attempted to tie changes to the draft order to the league’s desired 14-team playoff. Unsurprisingly, the union didn’t view that as a favorable tradeoff. The MLBPA has been amenable to a 12-team postseason, but has thus far been against a 14-team playoff, fearing that a broader field could reduce the incentive for teams to upgrade their rosters via free agency.
7:22 pm: Major League Baseball announced they’ve canceled all Spring Training games through March 7, as Jesse Rogers of ESPN was among those to relay (Twitter link). MLB had previously announced the cancelation of all exhibition contests through March 4.
Today’s news is little more than a formality. It became increasingly apparent as talks between MLB and the Players Association dragged on with little progress throughout the week that a new collective bargaining agreement wouldn’t be in place for games to begin next Saturday. The earliest games will get underway is now Tuesday, March 8 — and that’s contingent on having a new CBA finalized by next Monday, February 28.
Discussions between the league and MLBPA continued for the fifth consecutive day. The meetings lasted until the early evening, and the parties reportedly made progress on one issue — albeit one of comparatively lesser import than some others. Evan Drellich of the Athletic reports (on Twitter) MLB and the union exchanged proposals regarding the lottery to determine the amateur draft order. While the format wasn’t definitively agreed upon, Drellich hears they “made gains” in talks and there’s optimism they’ll find a mutually agreeable solution on that question soon.
The sides have exchanged proposals regarding the draft lottery throughout the week. MLB has offered to determine the top four picks by lottery, while the union has sought to randomize the first seven selections. A lottery would encompass all non-playoff teams from the previous season, with their odds of landing each pick likely weighted by inverse order of the previous year’s standings. Whatever picks are not determined by lottery would then be set by the reverse order of the prior season’s winning percentage, as had been the case for all selections under the last CBA.
Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports (Twitter link) that the league’s latest proposal remains a four-pick lottery but includes various limits on how many consecutive seasons a team may be eligible for entry. That’s a key goal of the union, which has sought to discourage clubs from embarking on long-term rebuilds by capping how often a team can remain near the top of the draft. The MLBPA has proposed limiting teams’ eligibility for high choices based on both a) in how many consecutive seasons they finish near the bottom of the standings and on b) club market size.
Given the utter dearth of progress towards a midpoint on any issues throughout CBA discussions, that the sides are seemingly closing the gap on the lottery is welcome. That said, it’s worth keeping in mind that the lottery always looked to be one of the easier points for the league and union to find a solution. Issues like playoff expansion (a key goal of the league’s), the competitive balance tax, the bonus pool for pre-arbitration players and the union’s push for broader arbitration eligibility all remain unresolved and seem to be quite a bit more contentious.
Neither side made a formal proposal today on any issue other than the lottery, according to Joel Sherman of the New York Post. That said, Drellich tweets that the parties have had conversations about all other issues — even the CBT, on which neither side has made a formal offer in recent days. This afternoon, MLB commissioner Rob Manfred appeared at the negotiations for the first time of the week, meeting one-on-one with MLBPA executive director Tony Clark. Goold adds that Manfred’s appearance was unscheduled and came as a surprise to the union, though the commissioner did not speak with any current players. It marked the first known, in-person individual conversation between Manfred and Clark since 2020, as Drellich points out.
There’s obviously still plenty to hammer out, and we’re now only three days from MLB’s imposed February 28 deadline for a deal before the league begins to cancel regular season games. That continues to look like a tall task, although today’s reports come with a hint more optimism about the tenor of conversations than those from earlier in the week. They’ll meet again tomorrow and are expected to sit down every day through the end of the month in hopes of reaching an agreement.
phillies give me depression
Fever Pitch Guy
Oh well, there goes my March 5th game against the Twins.
Next up, March 12th against the Marlins..
You aren’t getting 14 teams in the playoffs MLB, so just drop it already!!
Strike two! No balls, two strikes. No, sir, no balls whatsoever.
Well said, 30 Parks.
Well said indeed.
Curly Was The Smart Stooge
It’s amazing they’re all so confident that we’ll bite into this sour apple when it’s concluded.
Because we ALWAYS do!!! This is such a dumb take. Will someone please review some history? The owners win no matter what.
Please, Hammer. Don't hurt 'em.
@Curly: Most fans won’t even really notice until regular season games get cancelled. They might even be able to postpone the regular season some as long as the agreement is made before regular season games are scheduled to start. That way fans will at least know baseball is definitely coming before the games are being missed. Most fans aren’t like us commenters. They don’t pay much attention to baseball until the season is supposed to start. If this bleeds into beyond when the regular season is supposed to start… You might be on to something. At that point the game has changed and fans are going to be really pissed off. It’s one thing to irritate fans during the offseason when they weren’t expecting to have meaningful baseball games anyway. Once Opening Day comes and goes with no agreement in place, fans are really going to start getting pissed. At that point MLB might as well just get whatever it wants out of the deal and wait the players out as long as it takes. The fans are going to be pissed off anyway so MLB might as well streamline a of their preferences and make MLB like all the other major American sports with a salary cap and floor along with revenue based payment to the players like all the other sports do. All the other sports have that and they don’t have these problems every CBA. They know it’s take it or leave it and they choose to make the obvious decision and take it. The only reason MLB really has to let baseball players function differently from all the other sports with no cap/floor system is to prevent games from being missed to keep the fan base happy. Once regular season games are missed the fan base is going to get pissed off no matter what so the league might as well get everything they want out of it. Missed games are missed games and it doesn’t really matter how many there are. Fans got really pissed off at the ’94 work stoppage but no one would be leased pissed off if the work stoppage lasted half as long. It would still do the same damage to the game whether the league misses 20 games or 80 games.
I’m afraid we could see no season at all if they do as you say
Please, Hammer. Don't hurt 'em.
We could. We might as well if, in the long run, it gets the situation and the CBA renewals go like all the other sports and rarely have a hitch. As long as the end result is finally fixing the broken parts of the sport once and for all, I know if a lot of people who would be more than happy to come back and watch baseball. If you take pills about the ’94 strike, the reason most people didn’t come back is because they felt it was the millionaire players whining about wanting more and it started back because they eventually did. That’s not entirely accurate but it’s what a lot of people believe. People are sick of baseball being treated so differently from every other sport when it comes to salary caps, floors and non-league-wide- revenue based payrolls and salaries. If the league finally fixed that and made it well known that is what happened and that is why the work stoppage occured, most fans would come back. Whether it’s right or wrong, most people who stop watching baseball do it because they are mad at the players. Pretty much no ody stops watching baseball because they are mad at the owners. If the owners said the work stoppage happened so they could get the massive differences with other sports in line it would resonate with most fans. Especially the fans of teams with terrible large contracts on their favorite team. As much as some people dislike the owners, nothing disgusts an average fan more than seeing a Chris Davis/Jason Heyward/Justin Upton/ whoever on their favorite team making a ton of money for a long time just to suck. In the NBA they have maximum contracts to prevent that from happening for longer than a set amount of time. Usually 5 years at the most. That resonates with a lot of fans too because of course, if the player is still good after 5 years they can sign another contract. The long term deals really only help the players that aren’t worth it in their eyes.
Does that mean there isn’t a game on MLB network tonight? Oh well, I’ve only seen “The Sandlot” 143 times….
Right. At least switch to “Rookie of the Year” or “Little Big League”
Fun fact. I played ball with Timothy Busfield, and a little with Jonathan Silverman.
Tim could play ball and Silverman had a great arm..
Halo11Fan, I find that very interesting.
What level, if I may ask?
Fast pitch softball. Stealing, bunting, Tim was the Catcher, the few times Silverman came out, he was in the outfield.
Tim could really play. And Silverman had a good arm.
Our second baseman was the guy who created 30 something and directed Glory.
FP softball is a great game. I played for 10 years before I had to get a real job. Absolute blast.
This is really fun.
You are not telling us who and what you are, or were then, but it has to be something in the movies.
Am I prying too much? If so, I will be quiet.
i have told everyone how I grew up around the HOF guy Harmon Killebrew, but I was just a farm kid. I wish I had become something later but not too many people do.
It is a great game. A lot more challenging than most of the baseball I played.
I was the ringer they brought in. :). I was not involved the industry.
At the end of the 70’s early 80’s softball was huge ! People actually got off their ass and competed against each other and had fun! Here in fly over country we would play 3-5 nights a week and all night weekend tournaments! You Yankee‘s and left coasters don’t get it!
Love when they show naked gun
I must kill the queen
Watched Major League again last night.
Always a good choice
Wow they are really trying to put pressure on hard now. Ww3 is about to start in real life and in baseball… good grief
There are no politics in what I said. Relax homie
what’s a shame is neither the government nor baseball have an Eisenhower to set things right.
DarkSide830 Why would Baseball need somebody who bangs there driver?
Ww3 isn’t happening. Nothing ever happens
Hey, David K said no politics!
I’m taking it as saying that MLB and the MLBPA aren’t going to build nuclear missiles to launch at each other. Which is being optimistic at this point.
Ol’ Uncle Charlie
I think Daniella is having some sort of existential crisis. May I recommend The Sandlot to cheer you up? It’s playing every day on the MLB Network!
Thanks, I was about to ask if you knew where it might be on
There will be no agreement on the 28th barring some 11th hour miracle so expect opening day to be officially delayed shortly
Why are we all going to put up with millionaires fighting. Are we all so bored that we have to give our month to these people?
All these millionaires fighting is like watching Congress in session.
When do the fans realize with all that is going on in the world we need to tell these spoiled millionaires settle this now or we are gone and try and make money without fans.
Hey, you’re right! We should go on strike!
Let’s all boycott opening day when it rolls around in July…
Probably but it would be amazing
Nope, I got an early start. I’m boycotting all ST games through the first week of March.
I heard they are still trying to decide what food to order for the next meeting but they have narrowed down desert choices.
And you are going yo still support these kind of people and pay for them to be spoiled millionaires?
Yes. I’m going to take my son, my family and friends, and enjoy some nice afternoons and evenings at the ballpark once baseball resumes.
Almost all of us are gong to keep them rich, even those who claim they won’t. Heck, just by keeping an ESPN subscription and basic cable you are going to keep money flowing their way.
This is a work stoppage. If I boycotted every place that had labor/owner problems over the years I doubt I’d be able to function very well.
Nah, I’m gonna focus on attending games locally. Minor leagues are still supposed to be playing, and there’s plenty of Little League games.
I heard Manfred is going to pull a #45 and order fast food when there’s a ton of gourmet options available
You know, I’d really appreciate it if we could NOT do this the year my Mariners are finally about to get over the hump
I feel the same way as a Mets fan. Was really looking forward to the upcoming season
As are Detroit fans. May have to see Torkelson and Greene in Toledo.
Yes! Especially since we’ve clearly set a 2-3 year window and our biggest signing is aging
@jt33nym That’s the whole reason for the hold up. The braves with their 100 million less payroll are going to win the division again. Cohen is fighting for that 14 team playoff so you guys have a chance to get in this year.
Braves win! Braves win!
Soonest regular season can start now is April 12th. The MLB owners will lose close to a half billion in revenue by then.
Nope. Both sides agree that if an agreement is reached in the next three days season will start on time. Which most likely won’t happen. But the 12th is not the earliest it can start.
Fine with me. Bring on the Minor League season.
Almost to the point of not caring anymore. Guess I’ll watch more college ball.
I’ve really gotten into college ball this year and last. ESPN+ has a ton of games.
Heading out to a college game tomorrow, actually.
Which game you seeing, Halos?
Long Beach State vs Sacramento State. UC Irvine is a bit closer to home but Blair Field in Long Beach is iconic.
Enjoy, Halos. Never a bad day for a ball game.
I’m bummed that Michigan isn’t making a California trip this year. They usually make it out to Long Beach State, UCLA,USC, San Diego State, or one of those. Not this year. I’ll still get out to LB St or CSUF for a couple games to get my baseball fix.
Entirely jealous of your baseball geography, Patrick. It’s snowing, again, in Nova Scotia, if anyone is keeping score.
I know, right! Californians are so lucky with the teams and all. They have… the A’s… uh, er, never mind .
I joke, I joke. Good place for baseball out there. Year round baseball to boot.
Just spent all the money I had set aside for this summer’s MLB tickets on concert tix. If they get a deal done I’ll watch, but I’m not spending a dime to go in person even if they have a new agreement by Monday.
There are some great baseball games from the 50s, 60s and 70s on YouTube. Who needs these greedy baseball players who strike out to much!
Just cancel the season. Owners and players will both find out they are not as important as the believe themselves to be. Fans will find something else to do.
And the owners will easily find much more profitable investments.
Cancel the season and lose all your fans, mlb!! Do it !!
History shows this is not true. Has never been true. Fans ALWAYS come back. Pretty dumb post.
@blue Steele, no steroids to save the game this time buddy. No one cares about Baseball after the 94 strike and this will cause the sport to be a DISTANT 3rd behind football and basketball. So Wait and see ya putz
Name a labor stoppage that hurt overall revenues, ticket sales and franchise values five years after the stoppage in any sport? There isn’t one. The owners always make up the short term loss. I understand the baseball purists that swear they won’t be back because they’re butt hurt right now, but they ALWAYS come back. They yell and scream and then always return. History proves it.
The 94 strike
Quit reading posts and look it up, was 9 years before attendance was back to the 94 level
And what else happened? TV revenues grew, average tickets prices grew and franchise values grew. Owners don’t lose. Now think about what we have today that they didn’t. Massive regional networks and a much bigger upside from corporate money! Owners can hold the line and they know it. The fans will return and even if it’s longer than anyone thinks, all the other factors overcome it easily.
There were 4 franchises sold in the few years before the strike. The average value was $112M per team. There were 4 franchises sold from 1995 – 1999. The average value per team was 173M. Owners always win, even when fans say they’re not coming back. These posts and threats mean nothing.
Most fans aren’t going anywhere. Read the comments. They are watching old baseball games on YouTube and old baseball movies. They are on here commenting during the offseason during a lockout.
Are the tv contracts up? If not the owners aren’t that worried about attendance. They can just pay free agents less to make up for the revenue loss.
I can guess the demographic profile of fans watching old baseball games on YouTube and old baseball movies. MLB has the oldest fan base of any major sport, and it’s getting worse.
@Snuffy You are DEAD right. I was wrong about saying they aren’t going anywhere.
MLB & MLBPA, please wake me up when you decide to play again.
Hold strong, owners! And don’t give in anymore!! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!
Owners are weak. They pay people 500 grand a year that have highschool education. They people 500 grand a year that would have trouble making $500 a month in their country. Both sides will compromise.
True- owners are showing a lot of weakness and giving in much more than they should be. Entry level salary is in the top 1% of incomes and average salary (more than $4 million!!!) is in the top 1/10th of 1% of incomes- to go along with lifetime benefits after 6 weeks on a MLB roster. All for playing a culturally irrelevant game with a stick and a ball and mittens 7-8 months per year. They shouldn’t be giving in anything at all!!!
Take the budget for watching spring training games, buy a dozen balls for the local little league or girls softball team and make a difference that the players playing actually feel and appreciate!
Most of the ballparks in the Cactus League are tied directly with local charities and those funds pay for a lot of great things in the area.
Sadly, this will be the third year those charities take a huge cut.
But love your idea.
I’m joining the “wake me when it is over” camp. I love baseball but there’s still plenty of it near me at the college level. There’s also a ton of other things to do.
Yes, I’ll be back in my seats singing the National Anthem and making memories with my son when baseball is back. But I’m not anticipating that being any time soon, so I’m going to do other things for now.
“ back in my seats singing the National Anthem ”
At least stand for the Anthem.
Ol’ Uncle Charlie
that’s hard to do in the age of social media.
The instant gratification culture is not kind to the owners’ tactic of stalling to push the players against a deadline of losing pay checks.
Unless the players cave, I seriously doubt we will have baseball in 2022.
I’m losing my optimism a deal will be done in time for games to start by Memorial Day. At this pace a July 4th starting point looks more likely. Bad News Bears and Bull Durham are always good alternatives
Seems a little dramatic. I’d be shocked if it even delayed it past the 10th of April. I honestly think they have a deal by this time next week at worst
Fever Pitch Guy
Predicting and thinking are two entirely different things.
It’s fun to predict, but I don’t understand how anybody could think they know when the games will begin. Not even the players or owners know.
I hope the come back soon for your sake if watching old movies is your entertainment alternative.
Minimum salary should be 850k to 1M a year. I side with the players. Players are greedy but owners are more greedy. Nickel and diming the players is pathetic with how wealthy some owners are
Based on what? Using inflation as a guide, it should be roughly $650k year one with annual increases is the $20K range to the end of the deal
Based on things like service manipulation time and potential injuries ruining potential earnings. Some rookies and newer players making substantially less than they should provide more WAR to their teams than others
Nice to see the “leaders” of the two sides wait to meet until a couple days before a deal has to be in place to keep from cutting the regular season short. Way to show you care and are taking things seriously. This should have been hammered out a long time ago. What a joke.
My Birthday is Tuesday
And I expect a real $h1tburger of a gift from MLB……cancelled regular season games. Thanks Manfraud.
Happy B Day Tdoc!
I’m a senior citizen and I’ve been a baseball fan all my life and I’m beginning to dislike not the game , but the industry. It’s just not fair to the fans. Maybe I’m wrong but it’s just my opinion. Sorry for the players that really want to play no matter what.
All players want to play no matter what BUT they have a obligation not only for the Union but for all future players years to come. It is a crappy situation.
I think this is a tired and horrible argument. Not agreeing to common sense league structure like all other professional sports leagues is only hurting current and future players. Cap/floor is the only way that works. The players get big bucks, veteran players can find a job, smaller markets have a chance to compete. The competitive imbalance tax crushes the market for quality veterans, as most markets can only afford a few stars and a bunch of youngsters. The small markets will never be able to compete with the revenue of the larger markets, The players, their representatives and the fans need to wake up and realize this horrible system they have in place needs to be scrapped for the sake of the game. Yeah. Not holding my breath here. I hope they get a deal done in June but I would bet on this season being a wash. The owners are not going to just cave this time. The players are irrelevant. They need to fix this for the sake of the game.
That’s not wanting to play “no matter what.”
Ol’ Uncle Charlie
I keep coming back to the numbers from each side’s proposal and, even though I’m on the side of the players, to me it feels like they’re asking for too much.
I know they got beat up in the last CBA, but they’re not gonna get ALL that back in THIS CBA.
I also wonder if the players are asking for too much on purpose so they can APPEAR to cave to set up for the NEXT CBA.
To me, if you take what’s currently being offered by the MLB and add about 1/3, NOT half of what the MLPA is asking, that would be both fair and good for both sides…but there’s no way to know at this point whether that’s even a consideration for the MLBPA.
To be continued…
NO it wouldn’t. Not as long as MLB insists on those draconian CBT taxes.
MLBPA has spilled too much blood to give up a salary cap now. Hell will freeze over before they ever agree to that.
I hope you’re right
I wonder if MLB wants 14 teams so bad that the union will give in if MLB agrees to the larger CBT increases.
Going to be a interesting next couple of days.
I still hope MLB wants 14 teams even worse than they’re letting on and that that’s the one thing that could get them to move just enough on the other issues to get this wrapped up in a week. Of course, since the union already stated that it’s off the table if any games are missed, if they stick to that I worry that this will go on forever… at that point MLB won’t really have any motive to get a deal done quickly.
Only 6 teams have ever exceeded the CBT threshold. The small market teams are never going to give the big market teams any additional advantage. Don’t hold your breath on that issue.
I think that’s almost certainly the case. The players have much stronger motive to agree to 14 teams, but they’re not giving it up cheaply.
CBT isnt an issue for the players. How many teams even flirt with it? Not many. Last year there were 3 teams that exceeded $200 million. It’s a red herring.
They should work on getting a floor.
Yes! This. The union needs to wake up and allow for the cap floor concept to take shape. It really is the only way to allow the small markets to compete. If a floor were in place the quality veteran players could find a decent job. The competitive imbalance tax only allows for the mega deal in the mega markets, while the average player gets squat.
Last year, there were two teams above $210 million and six others over $200 million that didn’t cross the threshold. They deliberately stopped adding payroll when they approached the tax threshold. It’s a huge issue.
Patrick: Don’t forget about the 13(!) teams under $100M payroll……
Right, which is why I’ve advocated for a salary floor as well. The players’ knee jerk opposition to a floor is dumbfounding.
Players were much better off under the old CBA than what’s currently on offer. The owners are tossing crumbs for little things the players want, while holding to demands that would tilt the revenue split much further in the direction of owners. On sheer number of wish list items it may appear the players are winning, but the owners haven’t budged at all on thing things that really matter like the imposition of an effective salary cap that doesn’t even match inflation.
If there were no lockout, the players would be willing to play under the old rules.
Glad the minors leagues especially A and A+ teams will be going, there is a ton of players in the Cubs farm that I am looking forward watching and will have more time to do so.
Myrtle Beach and South Bend Rosters are going to be stacked!!
There is no “MLB”. There is just ownership. They use the label MLB because fans are stupid.
I can’t imagine spending a whole day on the lottery. I’d want to shoot myself if I had to listen to someone talk about the lottery for more than 10 minutes.
The lottery will be a wonderful thing. No longer will there be below 80 million payrolls and below 80 win teams. It should be obvious to everyone that teams only have low payrolls and poor records because they want a high draft pick.
I won’t be happy until every team has at least a .600 winning percentage every season. That’s the mark of an excellent team.
30 Ahole owners. So egotistical that they’d all overspend to top each other so they HAVE to create artificial rules as an excuse to hold salaries down.
So weird that they OWN players. The players can’t earn a living anywhere but in the owners shop.
And owners are just greedy as hell.
The owners are physically forcing players to sign contracts and keeping them from retiring? How can people sit back and allow this to be done?
The Union keeps changing what they want with absolutely no real clarity where they’re headed. At the end of the day, the goal should be to play games and not lose fans. If the players cannot get their act together and have concise goals outlined- no progress will be made.
I’m hopeful some splitting happens. Arbitration eligible date vs size of pre-arb pool (size of pool bigger the later arbitration starts), CBT vs restrictions for crossing it – lower CBT, weaker restrictions, bigger CBT harder restrictions for crossing it. Seems like a logical combo of issues for the sides to work on. Each gains something, each loses something. Minimum salary might be mixed with arbitration/pre-arb pool.
They’ve talked all week, although not much progress has made it’s possible some compromises have been floated privately.
A last minute deal would allow both to say they made sacrifices for the good of the game and fans. BS for sure, but would allow them to claim they didn’t cave.
This hasn’t been serious from the start. The whole show picked the wrong time to spend months whining at each other. People are moving on from selfish rich people. There are serious problems in the world. While they expose their utter greed, the stories continue about drugs, assaults on women, domestic abuse, alcohol abuse, ad nauseum. Maybe the Saudis will set up a satellite league for them.
I was looking at some data on baseball reference. In 2000, the league payroll was about 1,685,767,602. Using an online inflation calculator, that would be 2,652,685,523 in 2021 dollars. In 2021, the league payroll was 3,566,685,523 or about a third higher. Not suggesting that players should be happy with the lower number or that their demands are unjust. Just found it interesting that salaries have gone up in real dollars.
Also, people talk about the effects of the 94 strike. Using 1993 (full season before strike) as the baseline, total attendance will not reach 1993s level until 1998, the fourth season after the strike. Of course, the league added two new teams during that period. The average attendance per game did not exceed the 1993 figure until 2006 or twelve years after the strike.. it should be noted that during that period how people consumed baseball changed with the internet.
Interesting payroll stats. It would be good to compare that with the growth of revenues and team valuation over that same period, although some of that data is closely guarded.
“Drellich adds that MLB attempted to tie changes to the draft order to the league’s desired 14-team playoff.” Come on, make a serious offer. MLBPA may not be the best negotiators, but they aren’t going to sell those last two playoff spots for a handful of beans that gets them even less than that. The draft order changes won’t cost the Owners a dime.
If MLB wants a settlement (and I think that’s questionable) then start treating the negotiations as between adults,
At this point the players are just greedy and getting bad advice. Seriously, I don’t care if I never see any of the current crop play ever again. It’s about the game. Set up a cap/floor and let Steve and Joe off the street play. Every market could compete based upon their wisdom and player development, and not based upon a competitive imbalance tax and whomever has the greater amount of TV dollars.
Manfred in private consultations with Clark?
Don’t agree to, or sign, Anything without letting PA lawyers look at it first, Tony!
And check rings, watch, wallet, etc. BEFORE he leaves the room!
wouldn’t having more/less playoff teams inevitably impact how a lottery works? PA really doesn’t seem to get it.
I remain optimistic.
I’m also drunk.
This seems a logical course of action
And yet you still spell better than most.
This puts my Arizona vacation plans next month in jeopardy. How dare you!
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14 teams playoffs is too many teams. Keep it at 10 and at most make it 12. And make that a permanent rule change or if they keep it at 10 make it to be set in stone for at least 10 years.
14 won’t be as much as you think when they expand to 32 teams and realign to 4 divisions by subregion in each league by region.
Hey, you billionaire f*”‘s who own the teams. Pay. You rich p*”‘:s, pay.
You don’t own the teams or the league. I pay to see players play, not rich f*”k “owners” j*”k each other o**.
Cheapskate billionaires. And they wonder why the poors hate them.
Scott Boras, is that you?
The more each side gets paid, the more you and I pay. When does it end? When do they show even the slightest concern for us? Neither side cares. Why should we?
Let just cancel the games through the 4th of July. And start prepping the Marlins for their playoff and championship run.
Ducky Buckin Fent
Don’t these guys know that listening to spring training games is part of my backdrop for spring goose season? It’s almost like MLB as a whole doesn’t give a rat’s ass about me.
Something to think about.
Interest in baseball drops another few %… (finds other stuff to spend time and money on)
GET A F%&ING CLUE MLB!!!
Moo kid Betts on unemployment if no season?
Fun fact from Chelsea Janes of the Washington Post.
“Many players, for example, were infuriated when Manfred said earlier this month that a league economist said owning a baseball team is a less profitable endeavor than investing the same amount in the stock market. When Atlanta Braves’ owner Liberty Media — the only publicly traded company to own a major league team — released its year-end financial reports Friday, the outrage only increased because that report showed Atlanta collected 6 million dollars in revenue per game over those 12 months, according to Forbes.”