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Phillies Trade Adam Haseley To White Sox

By Steve Adams | March 29, 2022 at 10:59pm CDT

The White Sox and Phillies are in agreement on a deal sending outfielder Adam Haseley from Philadelphia to Chicago, reports Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic (Twitter link). Minor league right-hander McKinley Moore is headed to the Phillies in return, reports Todd Zolecki of MLB.com. Both teams have since announced the trade.

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Haseley, 25, was the eighth overall pick in the 2017 draft but has yet to establish himself as a fixture in the Philadelphia outfield. The left-handed hitter is a career .272/.331/.398 hitter against right-handed pitching and has drawn mostly solid defensive marks at all three outfield positions (10 Defensive Runs Saved, 3.3 Ultimate Zone Rating, -1 Outs Above Average). He’ll give the Sox a nice glove and a lefty bat to pair with right-handed-hitting outfielders Eloy Jimenez, Luis Robert, Adam Engel and Andrew Vaughn.

The bulk of Haseley’s experience in the big leagues came in 2019, when he logged a career-high 67 games and 242 plate appearances. He’s played in just 49 games and tallied 113 plate appearances across the past two seasons while battling wrist and groin strains. Haseley also stepped away from baseball entirely for a month last April, citing personal reasons. He went just 4-for-21 in limited big league time and batted .233/.313/.325 in the minors last season.

Haseley has a pair of minor league option years remaining, so he’s not necessarily a lock to make Chicago’s Opening Day roster. However, with Vaughn nursing a hip injury that’ll shut him down for one to two weeks, the outfield picture might be a bit more open at the moment than it appeared just a few days ago. Haseley has just a year and 132 days of Major League service time, so he’s under club control with the White Sox through at least the 2026 season — provided he plays well enough to stick on the roster that long, of course.

Although Haseley wasn’t slated to start in the outfield for the Phillies, he looked to have a clear path to at least a part-time role — particularly with Odubel Herrera currently battling an oblique injury that’s expected to prevent him from being ready for Opening Day. Haseley and right-handed-hitting Matt Vierling appeared ticketed for a center field platoon, with Bryce Harper locked into right field and Kyle Schwarber and Nick Castellanos slated to split time between left field and DH (probably with the former seeing more time in the field than the latter). With Haseley now out of the picture, former No. 1 overall pick Mickey Moniak looks like the frontrunner to split time with Vierling early on — barring further player movement in the Philadelphia outfield mix.

Moore, 23, was the Sox’ 14th-round pick in 2019 out of the University of Arkansas at Little Rock. Listed at 6’6″ and 225 pounds, McKinley is a big, power-armed righty with an upper-90s heater and a slider that, per Baseball America, will look like a plus offering at times. Moore has fanned a huge 31.7% of his opponents in pro ball and also boasts a strong 51% grounder rate, but he’s walked far too many opponents (13.4%). He split the 2021 season between two Class-A affiliates, pitching to a 4.20 ERA through 40 2/3 innings.

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  1. DarkSide830

    3 years ago

    oh?

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    • rennick

      3 years ago

      I’m very interested in seeing this return. I figured he’d get a bench spot since Odubel is hurt.

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      • DarkSide830

        3 years ago

        gosh only knows. how does one peg his value after last season? that’s what I fear – they may sell low. even if my faith has waned, now’s probably not the time for this trade.

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          3 years ago

          Low cost risk but I question any bat whose best year was 19 and whose stats even with a juiced ball weren’t overwhelming.

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      • ham77

        3 years ago

        Maybe he became expendable with the power Moniak has been showing this spring. I always thought Adam would make a good big leaguer so good luck to him on his new team.

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    • dadofdonnydownvote

      3 years ago

      Phillies pulling the plug in Haseley with 2 options remaining. Wow.

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      • PhanaticDuck26

        3 years ago

        not “pulling the plug” really; they just appear ready to roll with Vierling Moniak and Odubel sharing time in CF.

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      • Very Barry

        3 years ago

        Philly is one of the worst run organizations in Major League Baseball.

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        • cheapseater

          3 years ago

          The Angels would be the worst, wasting Trout and Ohtani like they are. The Angels also gave the Phillies Matt Klentak.

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        • tstats

          3 years ago

          Ahem ahem ahem, *Mets*

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        • bosoxforlife

          3 years ago

          You only have to look at the 3 top 10 draft choices they had i 2015-16-17. Cornelius Randolph, was even worse than Moniak who is a complete bust as a #1-1 and Haseley who flopped as a #8.. It doesn’t get any worse than that.

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        • TheLawAbides

          3 years ago

          How can people already determine that Moniak is “a complete bust” as a 23 year old who hasnt even been given 50 MLB ABs his career? Not every 1/1 is Harper or Griffey

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        • Joeyg2033

          3 years ago

          He’ll be 24 next month. Do or die at this point. And if he doesn’t have 50 ab’s in the majors, it’s for a reason.

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    • Dogbone

      3 years ago

      Where’s that ‘dumpster divin’ Chisox fan, now?

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  2. VonPurpleHayes

    3 years ago

    Wait…what

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  3. AmericanRedneck

    3 years ago

    Making room for GARDY!

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    • PhanaticDuck26

      3 years ago

      I think all three of the CF options are more productive than Gardy will be at this point. I do like Gardy though–kind of like a Cutch / Didi situation in that you love what they bring, but their numbers are declining quite significantly

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  4. rennick

    3 years ago

    I hope it’s not Kimbrel

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    • JohnJasoJingleHeimerSchmidt

      3 years ago

      From whose perspective?

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      • rennick

        3 years ago

        I don’t trust Kimbrel’s arm in either bullpen, but I’m a Phillies fan and the last thing my heart needs is more late inning anxieties from this team.

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        • JohnJasoJingleHeimerSchmidt

          3 years ago

          Gotcha. I didn’t know if you were a Phillies fan hoping to avoid Kimbrel or a White Sox fan hoping to keep him (or thinking Kimbrel could return better).

          Yeah, that Phillies pen will already be anxiety-inducing. No need to add to it.

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    • DarkSide830

      3 years ago

      agreed. no need to bail CHW out of their mistake.

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  5. JohnJasoJingleHeimerSchmidt

    3 years ago

    Rick Hahn won’t stop until he acquired every weak-hitting OF named Adam at least once.

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    • THE downvoter

      3 years ago

      Upvote for the name. Nearly as good as Honey Nut Ichiros. Well done.

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      • JohnJasoJingleHeimerSchmidt

        3 years ago

        I have not seen that name, but Honey Nut Ichiros is a superb username.

        And getting an upvote from THE Downvoter??? Consider me flattered.

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    • Ogie Oglethorpe

      3 years ago

      Dumpster Diving Rick.

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      • Jim Carter

        3 years ago

        Every player acquired is not arbitrarily included on the major league roster.

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  6. phillesfan07

    3 years ago

    Mickey moniack season baby

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    • DarkSide830

      3 years ago

      yeah, unless another move is in the cards it looks like Moniak’s got a job to lose.

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      • phillesfan07

        3 years ago

        What a story it would be if he lived up to his first overall pick potential

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        • rennick

          3 years ago

          I’d be happy if he lived up to 4th OF. I saw him play a lot in the minors and always enjoyed seeing him play. I hope he can establish role in the MLB

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        • PhanaticDuck26

          3 years ago

          yea I know you can’t put a lot of stock into ST, but man…For a guy who hasn’t done much it is great to see him out there mashing. With the lineup as stacked as it is, could easily put Moniak down in the 8 hole and let him do his Thing–would be awesome to see him emerge alongside Stott as some much-needed, homegrown guys

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        • Joeyg2033

          3 years ago

          He’ll be 24 next month, he better live up to someone. If not the story will be how lousy the Philly organization is at recognizing and developing talent.

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      • ctyank7

        3 years ago

        Why is this organization wasting its time defending the failed choice of Moniak? What evidence is there to even hint that Mickey is about to become even a below-average big leaguer?

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    • When it was a game.

      3 years ago

      Not knocking him but saw him a few times after he came up and looked really over matched. Do Phillies fans think he is ready for the bigs?

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    • Very Barry

      3 years ago

      Mickey Moniack …. Another brilliant “find” by the Phillies scouting department. Nobody had Moniak at the top of their board except 1 team ….. the Phillies! #1 overall pick.

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      • cheapseater

        3 years ago

        In all fairness, no one from that first round class has done much in the bigs to date.

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        • TheLawAbides

          3 years ago

          Kyle Lewis(that’s who I was hoping the Phillies would select)

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        • Joeyg2033

          3 years ago

          Ian Anderson at #3 has acquitted himself quite well. But with the Braves you expect that.

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  7. The Saber-toothed Superfife

    3 years ago

    Do Al Avila and the Dom even speak to one another?

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    • For Love of the Game

      3 years ago

      Tigers already have 3-4 fourth outfielders, basically anyone not names Badoo or Greene (Grossman is a tossup). Wouldn’t give up much for Haseley considering the Tigers have similar players in Reyes and Derek Hill; Daz Cameron afterward.

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      • Hello, Newman

        3 years ago

        Tigers 4th OF is bad. I get that it’s a role player, but it’s still disappointing for me to see no upgrades, yet again. Grossman’s contract is up after this season; I’m hopeful they can reach an extension. Cameron, Reyes, and Hill are bad. Thank goodness we have still have Haase. Conforto is still on the market, & I would love to see a 3 year deal. The pen is a mess too.

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    • bseventeen

      3 years ago

      I actually saw them talking with each other at the last Tigers/Phillies spring training game in Lakeland this week. They sat right across the aisle from each other.

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      • The Saber-toothed Superfife

        3 years ago

        Thank you. I was wondering. But you could have spruced it up a little bit for me though…… you know….. mention there were security guards hovering near by or something…..

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  8. LordD99

    3 years ago

    The Phillies, suddenly realizing they had a good defensive OFer in their ranks, took quick action to purge the offensive glove man.

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    • Very Barry

      3 years ago

      LMAO … the White Sox say Thank You

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  9. rememberthecoop

    3 years ago

    Decent flyer by the Sox on a former high draft pick who will help balance the handedness of their outfield starters. As long as they aren’t giving up much, that is.

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    • rememberthecoop

      3 years ago

      …and the return is minimal.

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    • SupremeZeus

      3 years ago

      This isn’t a decent flyer. This is the White Sox brain trust going all in during their brief window. Looking good Billy Ray. Feeling good Louis.

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  10. holycowdude

    3 years ago

    Does this mean the Phils are about to sign Conforto?

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    • getrealgone2

      3 years ago

      A one year deal to re-establish value?

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      • deweybelongsinthehall

        3 years ago

        Doubtful due if there’s draft compensation attached.

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        • getrealgone2

          3 years ago

          I forgot about that.

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        • Brixton

          3 years ago

          Phils are over the tax and already gave up their 2nd rounder.. might as well

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      3 years ago

      No. Phillies had too many OFs on their potential 40-man roster. I doubt they bring another in.

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    • Justplayball@13

      3 years ago

      Conforto is average at best and is way over paid. There is no chance of him coming to the Phils and thank God for that.
      Also Stoot should be playing 3rd base on opening day. I just hope the Phils don’t mess with him to much like they did Kingery.

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      • VonPurpleHayes

        3 years ago

        The Phillies didn’t mess up Kingery. Kingery just stunk. Young players change positions all the time. Some already have Stott written in as a better 2b or 3b than SS.

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        • Justplayball@13

          3 years ago

          I disagree. I think Kingery is talented, not as talented as Stoot appears to be although time will tell. Kingery was playing a different position nearly everyday (infield and outfield) and being fed the launch angle nonsense all at the same time. The wheels came off and at that level I imagine it’s hard to get back on track.
          If they are smart (as a phils fan it’s sometimes hard to believe that will happen) Stoot should be left alone at 3rd and moved only to give someone else rest. Although he looked good at 2nd yesterday.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          3 years ago

          Kingery’s problems have mainly been hitting and mental. His offense shouldn’t be impacted by position changes. He lost his ability to hit.

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        • ham77

          3 years ago

          You really think it’s spelled Stoot, don’t you?

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        • PhanaticDuck26

          3 years ago

          agreed @von…I think even kingery realized that most of his value would come from being a versatile position player, especially when the hit tool never really caught up to MLB pitching. He is just constantly overmatched at the plate, unfortunately. Can’t really pin that all on ‘playing multiple positions’

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        • richardc

          3 years ago

          You’d also he surprised how many hitters that are just coming up say that it helps tremendously to only have to focus practicing at one position and knowing when and where they’re going to play everyday.

          Just because some guys can play multiple positions and still hit, doesn’t mean it is easy. That’s the case especially for a prospect with big expectations that already is struggling a bit to live up to their offensive expectations. Any time that they spend away practicing another position is taking away from time they could be spending fine tuning their swing and their approach…

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        • ctyank7

          3 years ago

          And the downfall of Kingery can be blamed on the poor judgment of Klentak and Kapler.

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        • Joeyg2033

          3 years ago

          The Phils hitting brass tried altering his whole hitting approach incorporating launch angle and velocity. Basically they tried to make him a hitter that he isnt. It messed him up totally. It’s criminal what they did to that kid.

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      • seamaholic 2

        3 years ago

        He’s 24% over average for his career, in reality. That’s very good.

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    • baseballhistory

      3 years ago

      Conforto is not a center fielder. He made a terrible mistake not accepting the 18.9 m qualifying offer from the Mets. He will get considerably less on a one year deal, wherever that is.

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      • PhanaticDuck26

        3 years ago

        Come on Stoot, time to scoot

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  11. getrealgone2

    3 years ago

    As Braves fan I hope they got Kimbrel.

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  12. ham77

    3 years ago

    Kimbrel as a PTBNL? Lol

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  13. chisox34

    3 years ago

    He hit in the minors no doubt…
    But in 2021he stepped away for 1month inApril for what personal reasons??
    When returning he struggled in AAA. Curious

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    • bucketbrew35

      3 years ago

      The leave seemed to be either family or mental health related. Not much detail was available on it.

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    • baseballhistory

      3 years ago

      I think it is a good deal for the White Sox. Hassley is a steady defensive cf, and has the potential to be a doubles type hitter. Good luck to Adam in Chicago.

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      • ctyank7

        3 years ago

        Ironically, another phailed 2010s decade 1st rounder just joined the ChiSox as a minor league free agent: Cornelius Randolph.

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  14. snoopy369

    3 years ago

    Thank goodness, our right field nightmare is finally solved… >.<

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    • stymeedone

      3 years ago

      The White Sox can now rotate all their OFs thru DH, just like they envisioned with Conforto. Only this OF is cheaper!

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  15. Grim_work

    3 years ago

    I was talking to a guy at work about Haseley earlier this morning. I hadn’t heard his name since he took his leave of the team early last season and it’s weird to see this pop up now.

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  16. VonPurpleHayes

    3 years ago

    Underwhelming return.

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    • bobtillman

      3 years ago

      to say the least…the RISE of Mickey Moniak…..again, one of those deals where we don’t know everything, I think.

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      • VonPurpleHayes

        3 years ago

        Phillies had too many OFs on their roster. They needed to dump one, but this return is pretty gross. White Sox win this one on the surface.

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        • Very Barry

          3 years ago

          Phillies are a mess! Bryce Harper, Kyle Schwarber and Nick Castellanos …. Guaranteed 2 bad defensive players on outfield corners with no range. NL adds the DH and you block J.T. Realmuto, your highly paid 31-year-old catcher, from being able to get a reasonable number of games as a DH to utilize his bat while resting his legs and increasing his productivitity. A stud defensive outfielder would have made this team better than Kyle Schwarber. It’s called balance. Bad defense makes pitching and especially this bullpen much worse. Philly spending all this money …. Can’t even make the playoffs. Embarrassing!

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        • TheLawAbides

          3 years ago

          JTs contract really only has good value for his defense and hitting at catcher. $23M/yr for .260/.350/.450 at 1B/DH not that great (would be top 3 in DH salaries top 4 for 1B) pretty sure Phillies would rather have Castellanos or Schwarber every day and JT a hopeful 120 games at catcher

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    • baseballhistory

      3 years ago

      The Phillies traded Hassley at his lowest point. Coming off of what happened last year, and hitting .128 in spring training thus far. Not much perceived value there. It looks like Moniak will make the team now.

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  17. bucknerkingmansutter

    3 years ago

    Rummaging Rubbish Rick…

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  18. crumpy24

    3 years ago

    Clears up a 40 man spot for Stott?

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  19. Rsk3228

    3 years ago

    Wow. I usually give DD the benefit of the doubt, but there is little reason to do this deal. Put Haseley in AAA if he doesn’t make the roster. Phils gave him away for nothing. Especially since we just lost Williams in a trade to clear a 40-man spot. Why not trade Haseley and keep Williams. Am I missing something about this deal?

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    • DarkSide830

      3 years ago

      I’ve come to believe that they just think Hase is toast at this point. he wasn’t hitting even in the Minors last year and hasnt hit yet in ST.

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      • VonPurpleHayes

        3 years ago

        @DarkSide830 Agreed, but for the White Sox 27th ranked prospect? I mean that’s like giving Hase away for free. They certainly could have gotten a better return elsewhere.

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        • htbnm57

          3 years ago

          This guy seems like a lottery ticket in the vein of Pivetta with a high 90’s fastball, slider and control issues. He might turn into a decent reliever if he can find the plate.

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    • rememberthecoop

      3 years ago

      Um…they did trade Haseley. Am I missing something about your post?

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      • David Kupsick

        3 years ago

        Yes

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      • Rsk3228

        3 years ago

        Per my post: Why not trade Haseley and keep Williams.

        Did they keep Williams or did they trade him for nothing just to clear a spot that was ultimately cleared anyway by the Haseley trade. Seems like a lack of foresight.

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    • David Kupsick

      3 years ago

      I like the move… this opens he door for Vierling, Moniak, Obubel, Rojas, Muzziotti,
      Now Bohm gets moved…

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      • VonPurpleHayes

        3 years ago

        I don’t mind trading Hase, but the return is what bothers me. The White Sox 27th ranked prospect will likely never see the majors. Seems like a waste. I know Hase wasn’t going to get a huge return, but the White Sox got him for nothing.

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        • Samuel

          3 years ago

          “I don’t mind trading Hase, but the return is what bothers me.”

          @ VonPurpleHayes;

          I want to be careful here……

          The young man left the team in 2021 during the stretch run for “personal reasons”.

          As fans we have no idea what that means. Could be sick relative, could be anything else. I’d suggest that FO’s around MLB that may have had interest in him probably know what those reasons were.

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        • Rsk3228

          3 years ago

          My guess is the guy from the White Sox is a high spin rate guy who the analytics guys wanted to see if they can get him to command that big fastball. Similar reasons they wanted Coonrod and Alvarado.

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      • Hairy Callous

        3 years ago

        No way I’d give up on Bohm yet.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          3 years ago

          @Hairy Callous Agreed. Need to show some patience. Guy almost won Rookie of the Year in 2020. His glove will never be good, but the bat is there. He’ll pick it up.

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        • PhanaticDuck26

          3 years ago

          ya but if u can get two years of Montas for Bohm, I’d do it. Would OAK? I wonder what kinds of offers they’re fielding for Manaea and Montas. Phils have done nothing to address SP depth–do it now so that you’re not scrambling at the deadline. Improve the D and go with Camargo at 3B

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  20. phillyballers

    3 years ago

    Said it before… get rid of anyone associated with the Klentak farm system that hasn’t already established themselves as a big league talent.

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      3 years ago

      It does feel like a purge.

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    • getrealgone2

      3 years ago

      General Manager Joe Steel

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  21. Monkey’s Uncle

    3 years ago

    I guess this could make sense; I’m just Haseley on the reasons why.

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  22. rememberthecoop

    3 years ago

    Completely unrelated but I’m curious so I’m asking all you fine baseball fans this question: is there anyone in your favorite team’s farm system that you would NOT trade for Juan Soto?

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    • christopher8002

      3 years ago

      The problem isn’t trading your #1 prospect. It’s that you’d have to trade 4 of your top 5 prospects for Soto.

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      • Simm

        3 years ago

        Every year closer to being a free agent teams can take another top prospect off.

        4 today, 2-3 next year. 1 or 2 the following year.

        Chances of resigning him are slim for most teams. Dude turned down big money, he wants huuuuge money. I’d definitely start exploring trades if I’m the nationals. Specially since they may not win again during his window.

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        • PhanaticDuck26

          3 years ago

          at this pace he’ll likely be the first 400 mil FA contract. Yanks are saving up.

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  23. Puxatony phil

    3 years ago

    This is definitely opening up a roster place for Stott. Bohm to the minors Stott and Camargo are the third basemen. I still believe in Alec but right now Alec doesnt believe in Alec

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    • baseballhistory

      3 years ago

      It sure looks that way. I hope they don’t trade Bohm now.

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    • Justplayball@13

      3 years ago

      Hopefully Bohm gets it together in AAA and as they head down the stretch they could put him in a package to get a positive return.
      I don’t want to give up on him, but the defense is still a big problem and if Stoot works out there probably is no room for him going forward unless he spends all year in the minors.

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      • PhanaticDuck26

        3 years ago

        It’s Stott, man. I thought it was a typo at first but you keep going with Stoot.

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        • Justplayball@13

          3 years ago

          Will you ever forgive me?

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        • bucketbrew35

          3 years ago

          Probably not.

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        • Justplayball@13

          3 years ago

          Darn I was hoping for a good night sleep tonight. Oh well.

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  24. sss847

    3 years ago

    pretty sure all of the Sox fans asked for Conforto.

    but hey some dude with a 16 OPS+ sounds good. thanks hahn.

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    • hyraxwithaflamethrower

      3 years ago

      That’s across just 21 AB’s in ’21. For his career, he’s not great, just an 82 OPS+, but solid defense and cracking an MLB roster both put him ahead of Rutherford.

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      • sss847

        3 years ago

        the goal should not be to acquire someone just ahead of rutherford.

        the goal should be to acquire someone that prevents the DH platoon from playing meaningful games in left field.

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        • hyraxwithaflamethrower

          3 years ago

          Vaughn crushed lefties to a .938 OPS. Sheets hammered righties for a .900 OPS. Conforto’s career OPS is .824. At his best, .939. In other words, if this platoon continues their splits and are deployed correctly, you get roughly Conforto at his best on offense with some small value lost on defense. Small sample size on both guys, sure, but also their rookie years, so plenty of possibility for development, too.

          And the goal of this trade was depth, at which Haseley is better than Rutherford. It wasn’t to find a superstar. I hear your point and I’m still disappointed the Sox didn’t make an effort to get S. Marte, but it is what it is. This move is still an improvement, albeit a minor one.

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  25. stymeedone

    3 years ago

    Gotta like getting an OF from the most OF needy team in MLB, the Phillies.

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    • seamaholic 2

      3 years ago

      They’re not OF needy anymore. They signed two of them.

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      3 years ago

      Phillies are the complete opposite of OF needy. Schwarber, Castellanos, Vierling, Harper, Herrera, Moniak, Carmago, Maton. They needed to cut ties with someone.

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      • gibbs58

        3 years ago

        Agree with your point, but Maton as an OF is a stretch. Otherwise, yes, a lot of OFs on the roster. Muzziotti and Ortiz are two others on the 40 man.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          3 years ago

          Maton is IF first for sure, but he’s played OF for the Phils already so he’s on that depth chart.

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        • PhanaticDuck26

          3 years ago

          I’d love to see em find more at bats for Maton. I like his approach at the plate.

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        • gibbs58

          3 years ago

          Just a difference of opinion I guess, but 7 and a 3rd OF innings at AAA, catching one ball, over four seasons, doesn’t make him an OF option for me. Again, for me. He hasn’t even played out there at any spring training. Not arguing, not really something to argue about, just explaining my reasoning.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          3 years ago

          Oh you’re totally right gibbs. He’s an emergency OF at best. I just listed him because he’s played there before..

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      • Justplayball@13

        3 years ago

        Hopefully next they can find someone to take Herrera.

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  26. longines64

    3 years ago

    Another in a long-long line of failed 1st round picks…

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  27. Kelly Wunsch N' Munch

    3 years ago

    Good move for the White Sox. At least he seems to be a capable glove in the outfield. Just because they’re fortunate enough to have Robert in CF doesn’t mean he should be surrounded by incompetence. Hopefully Haseley can get his bat to play a bit. Although what I’ve read in the comments so far is not indicative of much optimism. That isn’t really all that surprising being that the White Sox didn’t really give up much to acquire his services. Nonetheless an area of need is addressed in the most minimal of fashions. Considering what the White Sox currently have on their depth chart, I don’t mind the acquisition. Curious of the Phillies to let him go for so little. That should probably tell us something in and of itself. Albeit they have alot of “outfielders” on their roster after their free agent acquisitions. Time will tell.

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  28. Chisox378

    3 years ago

    Hmmm. White Sox will have options, they also have Dwight Smith Jr. Are we still in on Conforto?

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    • hyraxwithaflamethrower

      3 years ago

      I doubt they ever were. Too busy upgrading a bullpen that didn’t need that much to begin with.

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  29. hyraxwithaflamethrower

    3 years ago

    Sox seem to have gotten a decent deal here, but we’ll have to see. They certainly made an upgrade getting Haseley and dumping Rutherford.

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  30. DadsInDaniaBeach

    3 years ago

    I’m thinking that another deal could be in the works for a pure center fielder..Maybe DD is on the phone with the Pirates…

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    • hyraxwithaflamethrower

      3 years ago

      I’m sure he and a ton of other GM’s have been on the phone with the Pirates, but I doubt they swing a deal this year.

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      3 years ago

      Vierling has looked pretty damn good in Spring. I think any big trades will be during the season.

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      • DadsInDaniaBeach

        3 years ago

        Moniak aside from his first spring game has looked pretty good himself this camp..I actually didn’t think he would get better..I could be wrong there….

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        • PhanaticDuck26

          3 years ago

          yea I think they’re ready to roll with in-house options in CF. Since the offseason I was fine with giving Vierling the OD nod and the most significant amount of time there, as I figured they’d get ONE of Schwarber / Nick C anyway. Now with Moniak hot, it makes even more sense to start off with MM platooning w MV in center. Honestly any big trade now would be Bohm for pitching, I’d guess.

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  31. Dannyocean

    3 years ago

    Typical Phillies logic. Give up on a first round pick and get a late round pick in return. But resign a low IQ baseball mind that they were rid of last fall.
    Might as well trade for Mikael Franco while they are at itZ.

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    • Justplayball@13

      3 years ago

      I agree with that. I would much rather had Hasley than Herrera.
      As a Phils fan I can only hope Vierling and Moniak can make it really hard for him to make it back. Then unload him anyway you can.

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      • VonPurpleHayes

        3 years ago

        Everyone has a right to dislike Herrera, but his ceiling is far higher than Haseley’s. Herrera was able to produce at the major league level pretty consistently. He was a 1.8 WAR player in 2021. He’s a plus defender and can swing the bat when needed. Herrera is far more valuable than Hase.

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        • Justplayball@13

          3 years ago

          I’m not a big believer in the WAR Stat, but I’ll go with it for argument sake.
          He is a class A bone head who makes the same mistakes all the time. I agree he has really good physical skills, but the baseball IQ of a doorknob. And when you add in his past off field issues. He is a hard pass. He can take his 1.8 WAR to another team he is not worth the headaches in my opinion.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          3 years ago

          @Justplayball@13 Depending on position, I think WAR gives you a decent overview of a player’s value, but to your point, I think people tend to think it’s the be-all and end-all stat, and it really isn’t.

          Herrera clearly is hyperactive and likely has some form of ADHD. I don’t even mean that as joke, it just seems pretty clear to me. So yes, there are occasional hiccups, but quite frankly, unless Moniak and Vierling step up (which is the plan), I don’t see a better option on this roster. Haseley was not it.

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  32. Kelly Wunsch N' Munch

    3 years ago

    @Chisox378
    Don’t think they were ever “in” on Conforto. Draft pick compensation attached, coming off of a down year, requires a ransom for his services which are average at best…
    I’m in the minority, but I’m glad that the White Sox are seemingly uninterested in Conforto. This move has the potential to be a decent platoon with Engel if Haseley can hit somewhat. That way there would only be one giant void in the outfield instead of two being that the White Sox are deadset on continuing to run Eloy out there despite him being a danger to himself and others. There’s far more of a possibility that this move doesn’t work out, but it’s worth a shot. Play it out, and maybe by the trade deadline they can improve RF with a better option.

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  33. RobM

    3 years ago

    His name is Adam Haseley, but my eyes always see Admiral Halsey.

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    • bucketbrew35

      3 years ago

      I think that’s just the dislexia talking. Don’t worry, happens to me all the time.

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  34. msqboxer

    3 years ago

    Just a LH bat with above average defense to platoon with Engel and still has two options left. They gave up a guy that his ceiling will be as a mid-reliever if he can get his BB under control someday.

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  35. Idioms for Idiots

    3 years ago

    I view Haseley as a lottery ticket. Great if he does well, great. Otherwise he’s just AAA depth.

    Whoever is in RF for the White Sox is just keeping the seat warm for Cespedes once he’s ready. Not saying he’ll be a superstar, but that clearly looks like the plan for the Sox in RF.

    And right now, I wouldn’t be surprised to see them give Adolfo a long look at RF, at least through April. With the Spring he’s had so far, he has to make the 28-man, especially since he’s almost guaranteed not to clear waivers. This all depends on how quickly Vaughn makes it back as to how much Adolfo sees RF. That would be my plan anyway.

    They are not signing Confronto. They are tapped out. They won’t even part with an extra 50K for Giolito. I’m amazed their payroll is almost 200M. I didn’t think I’d ever see JR with a payroll that high.

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    • ponytail01

      3 years ago

      Colas, not Cepedes, will be the future rightfielder.

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      • Idioms for Idiots

        3 years ago

        @ponytail01

        I was referring to this season, but yes, you’re right, Colas is looked at as the future RF. Of course that depends entirely on the development of Colas. It looks like the future OF is Cespedes in LF, Robert in CF, and Colas in RF (and Jimenez as DH and Vaughn at 1B), as long as Cespedes and Colas develop into MLB players.

        Definitely huge ifs, and definitely no guarantees, but that does look like the future game plan.

        2B is a whole different story. Unless Montgomery or Kath can convert into one (if either develop into a MLB player), it looks like that position is the one that got away in Madrigal.

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    • nrd1138

      3 years ago

      I would not be surprised if Adolfo makes the Sox major league roster as he is out of options and especially if Vaughn will not be ready. If he comes out of ST into the season and has a hot bat, he stays and Im guessing Vaughn or Sheets go to AAA (as they have options still if Im not mistaken)..

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  36. Augusto Barojas

    3 years ago

    Dumpster diving Rick.

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  37. Phillies2017

    3 years ago

    Smh
    I’m not saying Hasely was great, but why would a team that needs OF help trade a former first round pick outfielder with two options remaining for nothing?
    This could bite us.

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      3 years ago

      @Phillies2017 They have too many OFs actually. And they needed to cut one in order to add Stott to the roster. Vierling, Moniak, Harper, Schwarber, Castellanos, Herrera. With a DH, teams don’t really need 7 OFs and Hase is clearly the worst of this group. I don’t love the trade because the return was bad, but I understand why they wanted to move Haseley.

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  38. TheLawAbides

    3 years ago

    Finally I’ve been begging for Moniak playing time since last season

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  39. CluHaywood

    3 years ago

    This is a weird feeling. I came on here expecting to see Sox fans crapping on the trade, and it’s mostly Phils fans doing that.

    I’ve been beyond patient with the Sox, but they are in win now mode. Their window is open. And your solution is the scrap heap for RF…again. the only place that has been radioactive longer than Chicago White Sox RF is Chernobyl.

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  40. Cap & Crunch

    3 years ago

    Love what CWS are doing , they are at their cap and don’t need to shoot bullets on a Conforto………enter Haseley

    Finding serviceable players that fit for cheap is the game now for the White Sox.
    The heavy liftings already been done, and they even got some upside here to boot

    Well done, chess move-

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  41. dewssox79

    3 years ago

    I do not understand the hate for Gavin Sheets

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  42. GarryHarris

    3 years ago

    I assume Adam Haseley was about to be cut for his poor performance so far in Spring.

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  43. GarryHarris

    3 years ago

    IF Bryson Stott and CF Simon Muzziotti are doing well this spring.

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  44. Backup Catcher to the Backup Catcher

    3 years ago

    Looks like Moniak will enjoy the good side of a platoon in CF. Good! Time to find out if this kid (Still only twenty-three) has what it takes to be a MLB player. If by Memorial Day the answer turns out to be a resounding, “No!”, then trade him, too.

    Matt Klentak set this franchise back five years trying to be the “Smartest Guy In The Room”. Maybe he and Howie Roseman (Eagles GM) can be roommates when they are finally fired.

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  45. "Not" Rick Hahn

    3 years ago

    Good Golly I did it again!

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    • Augusto Barojas

      3 years ago

      Another move that will have no impact on whether the Sox win a playoff series before it is time to rebuild again. Lovely.

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  46. AC Surf Baseball

    3 years ago

    The Phillies have to roll with the homegrown guys in CF. Vierling is still an experiment at this point but he hits the ball hard. Three weeks ago I was on the fence about whether Moniak should be on big league roster, or play everyday in CF at Lehigh. But after the Haseley transaction and the spring he’s having, I think he has to go north with them. This is his opportunity and would be a great story if he played an integral role. Same to be said if Scott Kingery makes an appearance this summer. Let’s go Phils!

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  47. TomL

    3 years ago

    Surprised Rick didn’t tak ea flier on Shogo instead, wouldn’t have to give up anyone.

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