March 19: Manager Alex Cora confirmed that Robles will be returning to the Red Sox, adding that the right-hander remains in the Dominican Republic as he waits for a visa, per Alex Speier of the Boston Globe (via Twitter). The deal is a minor league contract with an invitation to spring training, per Chris Cotillo of MassLive.com (via Twitter). If he makes the Major League roster, Robles will make $2.25MM, adds Speier.
March 18: The Red Sox are in agreement with free agent reliever Hansel Robles, reports Mike Rodriguez of Univision (Twitter link).
The 31-year-old is now set to continue his tenure in Boston after being acquired in a deadline deal with the Twins last July. While his overall 4.43 ERA or 12.5% walk rate on the 2021 season won’t wow anyone, the right-hander’s results improved considerably upon joining the Red Sox.
In 25 post-trade innings Robles carried a 3.60 ERA with an impressive 30.3% strikeout rate. His walk rate remained several notches above the league average, but given Boston’s minimal cost of acquisition Robles’s performance was more than acceptable. Further working for the reliever is his ability to take the ball every couple of days, as his 72 appearances topped his previous record of 71 appearances during a strong 2019 season as the Angels’ closer. An ability to be a workhorse out of the bullpen may prove prudent given the injury risk already on display in Boston’s rotation.
Boston’s reunion with Robles through free agency is about as good a relief signing as one can expect at this time of the offseason, particularly with reliever Kenley Jansen’s departure from the free agent board. Among remaining free agent relief pitchers, Robles has perhaps the best bet of following the high-strikeout, high-walk rate formula that Boston’s pitching staff rode to general success last year.
Tonight’s signing also addresses a weakness in the Sox bullpen, which had a dearth of right-handed relievers behind end-of-game right-handers Garrett Whitlock and Matt Barnes. Three of chief baseball officer Chaim Bloom’s most recent moves have been centered on adding southpaws to the team’s pitching staff, but the addition of Robles should take some pressure off incumbent reliever Hirokazu Sawamura as the team’s go-to right-hander in the middle innings.
This seems like a not great idea imo
Not a surprise, unfortunately. Cora loves the guy. Robles gave up a lot of very long outs, let’s hope his luck doesn’t run out this year.
Cora loves him because he can show off his one skill, being bi-lingual!!! FPG, how are you doing?
KD – I am well, thanks. Hope you are too.
I’ll be getting my first up-close look at the team today and tomorrow, at least I get to see Pivetta and Houck.
My gut feeling is that if the Sox do sign Story, they will trade Xander soon after. Time will tell.
Hey, it’s easy to be wrong about what Bloom will do but I still can’t believe Bloom will spend over $12MM per year on a player. I think Story has a decent chance to be as effective in Fenway as Colorado but I don’t see it in the cards for Boston.
It’s a crazy time. I don’t get what the Yankees are doing. I don’t get what the Red Sox are doing. I don’t get what TB is doing but TOR is making lots of great moves and look to dominate this year.
I wish I could attend games but it’s not in the cards before the season starts. The Sale injury is disturbing because of the freak nature of it. I heard he cracked his left rib but it turns out it was the right ribs which makes absolutely no sense from a stress perspective so maybe we aren’t getting the whole story. I hope he’s back in a few weeks.
I bet he’d pitch if they would let him even with pain but they want to keep protecting their investment. How much more time could he have missed if he had been allowed to pitch when he wanted to instead of when Cora wanted him to? Sale is too complicit for me.
I hope he’s dominant when he returns and decides to opt out. I can’t bear watching this team turn into TB North. I’ve got a former player I coached on Toronto and seeing their front office make moves to raise their talent level is exciting. Losing Semien will hurt but Chapman is a great glove and a great kid so I wish him well. He played in HS with a close friend of my son’s so both Arenado and Chapman are two players I always root for.
Let me know how Houck and Pivetta look. I’m not sure I’ll get to see any of the game. Dalbec looks to have a monster year but Cora is giving him the Chavis treatment so it’s clear Casas is a chosen one like Devers. All competition has been eliminated so they can bring him up early before he is ready like they did with Devers. I’m also SHOCKED that they are leaving Devers with the .935 fielding percentage over 5 years at 3B. Stupidity has no limits when it comes to Cora and Bloom.
Do you know which players are vaccinated and can play in Toronto? I’ve got my fantasy drafts coming up next week and both the NYC and the Toronto restrictions may completely screw over some players that are stubborn. I have Kyrie Irving in every fantasy basketball league I’m in and now I know why I got him later than expected. I assumed he’d give in and get vaccinated but he held out and it cost me 41 games. NY players could lose 81 games if unvaccinated. It could be even more if there are cross-town games they have to miss. The Toronto situation is more critical to the AL East players like Judge if he doesn’t get vaccinated. 19 games is a lot to lose but I expect Judge to get vaccinated to avoid missing 81 home games..
Glad to hear all is good!
I think we might get Story. That might be the one guy we invest in as a hitter.
Will say after seeing Correa and Castellanos contracts and signing for much less than they were predicted to, it looks like Story could actually be on Chaim’s radar.
Should he be? I don’t think so. Sure he’d improve the team being the new 2B over a guy like Arroyo… so if the contract is right, go get him. But pay him as a 2B not a SS. Is that possible?
I’ll believe it when I see it
Correa’s contract is horrible for Twins. If he plays good, he walks after one year. If he plays bad or gets hurt, he picks up his option and stays. And, he has same option for year 2.
So best case scenario: Twins get A good Correa for one year at 35M. Worst Case Scenario: $105M for 3 years of sukk.
No thanks.
Horrible? You could say your worst case scenario for any FA signed, those are the risks teams take to improve. Correa is 27 years old. Seager is the same age, and signed a 10/$325M deal. So for an extra $2M, the Twins got the best FA of the year, and most likely will have him for 1/ $35M.
As a Sox fan, if you told me they couldve signed Bryce Harper a contract like the one Correa just signed…. I’d consider it a steal.
triumph13: Your best case scenario is 1 year, your worst case scenario is 3 years. Thats not the same as 10 year best case and 10 year worst case.
Look at it another way: Youre at casino, and the odds are $35 bet can win you $35. And if you lose its $105. Sure odd are better that you win the $35, but thats a big risk.
I just don’t like these contracts. If it works out, great, but if it doesn’t the teams spending ability is handicapped for too long.
AL343 hours ago
I’ll believe it when I see it
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No you won’t. You’re as bad as KD. And if we do land him, you will hate the terms. If we sign him for 3 years, you’ll say it was because Bloom was too cheap to sign him for 6 years. And if we sign him for 6 years, you’ll say it was too long.
It’s okay to admit it.
NYC is more likely to lift their mandate than Judge is to take the jab. If anyone has held out this long, they’re certainly wise enough to understand recent evidence makes taking a jab even less logical.
I get it. You don’t like long term big money contracts. Understandable, but would think that would mean you’d love to sign a big time player to a 1 year deal as Minnesota did. Or maybe not because nothing is worth the risk of losing money?
The analogy suggests a team shouldn’t sign free agents. Because you “gamble” whether you spend $10M or $30M.. . and your best case is that you think the guy simply earns your money back and nothing more. IMO, Correa is worth more than 1 yr./ $35M. ALOT more. A lot more than $105M too. Twins played this well.
If I’m “suggest a team shouldn’t sign free agents”, then you’re suggesting ‘every free agent should get options to walk away from a contract after each year, because it doesn’t hurt the team’.
Lets not try to rephrase each other into dumb opinions.
Chris Sale’s option is a great reason, this is risky. He’s collected $60M the last two years for a grand total of 5 wins. Now after this year, he can opt out. Don’t you think for just a moment he signed that team friendly deal in March ’20, knowing he might need surgery. And negotiated an opt out after the 3rd year, when he’d be fully recovered from the surgery. And this contract has greatly hurt the signing potential of other FAs for the Red Sox.
If you can’t see that these types of contracts are dangerous, lets agree to disagree.
Fair enough Easy, and I agree with your Chris Sale opinion. It was an overpay for a guy who had never shown durability to get through a season, and who most everyone who saw his throwing motion said he’s a walking TJ surgery timebomb. But the Sox felt they were saving money offering him that opt out… so they took the risk. Same with Bogaerts, who signed a team friendly deal but surely would’ve expected a lot more if he wasn’t offered the opt out year.
Ok. So back to whether this is a horrible deal for the Twins. I can’t see how it is. Did the Twins want him? Of course. I’m sure they thought they had zero shot to get him though, because rumors were he expected $300M plus guaranteed. They can’t compete with those numbers. So instead of guaranteeing him $300M plus, they instead say the most they can guarantee him is $105M. And for that they got him.
Your point is yeah but what if he sucks and the Twins still owe him $70M after year one? Yeah. If Houston signed him for $330M and he sucks after year one Houston would still owe him $297M.
Who cares that he can leave after year one if he has a solid year. They will have gotten an elite star for a single year contract, and if he was that great maybe Minnesota tries an extension.
If Trea Turner were a free agent and the Sox could offer him a Corey Seager type deal with Texas or a deal like the Twins just did with Correa…. Which would you prefer they choose?
Good point, Also, I think Twins can also handle a bad contract better, better than the Red Sox, in the sense that, if it bombs, they can go back to their low budget ways, where as Red Sox have committed to staying under the cap (so it appears).
Nice Debate, glad it stayed civil.
EasyPeasy – So Sale plotted to get a contract with an opt out so he could have surgery and then leave? Seriously? I sure hope the FBI puts him on the most wanted list if that comes true. hahaha
Sale isn’t constraining ANY spending. Wake up. Bloom has spent more money than DD on active players and rather than having $40MM plus in Retained payroll Bloom only has $16MM and he caused that himself.
No more blaming DD for Bloom’s problems today. He dumped Mookie, Price and will dump Eovaldi and JD by 2023. If Bogey opts out and Sale opts out we’ll have lost 6 all-stars and replaced them with NONE but the owners will make lots more money. That’s great for us fans!!!
In 2018 Boston paid $168MM for active players not injured and $18MM for players that were injured. That totals $186MM which is far below the CAP at that time. Ownership wasted $41.2MM prior to DD on bad contracts that carried over. Those contracts had nothing to do with DD.
Bloom inherited a team with a payroll of $228MM and removed $27MM for Mookie and $16MM for price before the 2020 season. That meant his payroll was down to $15MM below the CAP at the time.
Thanks to the passage of time $73MM has rolled off the Red Sox payroll since Bloom arrived and Bloom continues to use ALL of IT on crappy players that cost under $12MM. Time to stop blaming ANYONE other than Bloom for not having enough money!!! Accounting is not that difficult. Spending $210MM on 6 expensive guys and 20 cheap guys isn’t any different than spending under $12MM on every guy and it totaling $210MM. Bloom is near the CAP thanks to HIS spending, nobody else’s..
He wasted the equivalent of two Sale salaries on worthless guys like Paxton and Wacha for THREE STRAIGHT YEARS. Maybe it’s time to hold Bloom accountable for his avalanche of mistakes
FYI… while spending more money than DD he has produced NO DIV WINS and NO RINGS. For less money, DD had THREE DIV WINS and a RING. What’s wrong with this picture? EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fever Pitch Guy10 hours ago
let’s hope his luck doesn’t run out this year.
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This is one of the guys I really wanted back, more so than signing Diekman or Strahm. Robles was huge for us. I wonder if KD ever admitted he was wrong about how much of Robles’ salary we picked up?
Joe – one sure thing….KD IS ALWAYS WRONG…..and…..THAT HE WILL NEVER, never admit it
JC#16 mins ago
Joe – one sure thing….KD IS ALWAYS WRONG…
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The fun part is always when you show him the article showing us picking up two month’s of salary (2M/3 = $667k), and the Twins giving us $500k, making his net cost $167k. It’s in every paper, but he refuses to believe it.
Joe – yes, some people are just obtuse
“It’s that damn Hansel! He’s so hot right now!”
He’s Hansel & I am Franzel, and we are here to pump (clap) YOU UP!
LOL
It pains me like a fissure in my ass, but you’re right….
Dude – one of Will Ferrell’s best roles.
I like this signing. He was pretty decent for a stretch. maybe he can solidify the bullpen to allow Whitlock a rotation spot?
it’s a signing no one thinks about but if he can pitch even average in today’s game, his ability to throw innings saves other arms. I want Whitlock AND Houck to pitch like last year out of the pen. Then the pen becomes an underrated strength. Such depends on Sale returning and Pivetta stepping up. Sox will be fine IF the above happens but they might as wear a big IF on their cap instead of a B.
Interesting that this gets announced right after Jansen to ATL. They were in on Jansen, right?
2022 Robles was alright. Getting the 2019 Robles would be an impact pickup.
If one of Brasier and Robles can emerge as a plus 7th/8th inning guy, their pen is in fine shape.
Sorry but brazier being depended on for important innings is scary To me, Robles is an important piece to throw early or late. Whenever it’s needed to get out a jam.
It’s not like I love the guy. it’s just if he’s on the roster, he can be used anytime. Yes like others have said, he does make you bite your nails. My thinking though is he can get ours and pitch innings.
Robles and Brazier were literally the 7th and 8th inning guys in the postseason; without Barnes, everyone else had to move up a spot in the pecking order. I buy that there’s nothing physically wrong with Barnes, and it was just a couple tough months complicated by getting COVID in the middle. Instead of needing both of these guys to be nails, now you’re just looking at needing one to step up as the secondary RH setup option, behind Whitlock as relief ace. Or, if they’re both clicking, like you said, there’s the option of deploying one early and leaving one for the 7th. Hembree was used that way quite a bit in ‘18/‘19, as a secondary RH who was The Guy to put out an early/mid innings fire. I think he was a more important piece of the group than we appreciated while he was around.
Beast mode Chaim
(insert sunglasses emoji)
Sox have a full 40-man. Should I set the odds of the corresponding roster move being an Austin Davis DFA at +250?
Not sure who but there’s probably an injury or two to stash someone on the DL.
Robles pitched decent down the stretch for the Sox last season.
Rsox – Decent? How much is decent worth to you? Was it enough better than one of the thousand minor league acquisitions by the brilliant Bloom couldn’t have pitched as well for $0.575MM instead so money could be saved for a 3B, OF, SP or Closer?
I have a serious question for you since you don’t seem to mind Bloom’s choices as much as I do. Is it better to have 6 expensive all-stars and 6 controllable players from the best farm system in baseball over the last decade OR 12 mediocre players costing $12MM or less that can play multiple positions but none well?
Every time I look at the roster that’s all I see. VOLUMES of mediocrity and less stars than when he arrived in Boston. Why isn’t that a problem for more fans? What am I missing? The promise of future greatness? Is that really worth ANYTHING? It’s a promise not reality.
I respect your opinion so I’m asking because I’m at a peak of frustration.
KD – I said from the beginning I’ll wait until the regular season starts before judging the offseason, but as of right now I’m deeply disappointed.
My biggest complaint is the starting pitching. Bloom acquired a guy with a 5.11 ERA over the past three seasons, another guy who is 42 years old, and another guy who won’t even be pitching until at least August.
Whitlock has never started a game above AA, and that was 3 years ago.
Things could get really ugly, really fast.
Fever and KD, my disappointment is only in not yet having that right handed bat to replace Renfroe. I was hoping for a Castallanos surprise. Would now like it to be Story (Arroyo can’t stay healthy to be relied on as a starter). I’ve said elsewhere, you build to be able to jump when the opportunity happens. Maybe ownership truly wants to sign Bogie or Devers long term. Only next year if their payroll truly goes down big-time will I then see things differently Bloom got the finances and farm right. Now he has to produce a winner like his predecessors. That’s how his time in Boston will be measured. Remember, Epstein, Sherrington and DD all won but left the team in a mess of one type or another
FPG-You want to wait until regular season starts before judging. Then you go into judging.
Fever-are you recycling posts from last Spring?
Dewey – I know we don’t agree on much these days as we have opposite opinions of Bloom but the Renfroe move after reviewing the two minor league players makes absolutely no sense. One guy is a replacement for Devers at DH eventually and the other guy knew Cora from his days in Houston because Cora followed the UT baseball program. The kid is fast. I just listed all his skills.
Castellanos would have been a nice addition forcing Verdugo back to right field. Story if he’ll play 3B would be a great addition. I think his batting will transition from Colorado to Boston very nicely.
Dewey, if Bogey and Sale opted out the actual payroll on the books as of today would be $35MM plus the arb and pre-arb players. It’s for that reason that I believe DD thought Boston could afford Mookie, Sale, Bogey and Devers after the 2022 season and still have money to consider resigning Eovaldi or Price if they preformed well.
Bloom’s make it or break it window will begin after the season ends this year. He’ll have more discretionary money than he’s ever had in TB and other than Sale and Bogey the other four big contracts from 2018 will be gone along with retained payroll that has weighed down the payroll for nearly a decade.
There are two schools of thought. Optimists think he will go out and spend more than $12MM a year on some players while people like me think he won’t because that’s his new system. Interchangeable parts and less than $12MM a year with a constant stream of farm system people that have a 1 out of 10 chance of making the majors as opening day players and enough in the minors to hope for at least 1 or 2 graduates a year like they’ve seen over the last decade. I believe we are in for TB 2.
I truly hope I’m wrong for the sake of all Red Sox fans but so far I have seen Bloom do nothing to suggest I am wrong. Nearly 3 years and nobody over $12MM a year yet he has spent $73MM annually on “other new players” since he took over in 2020. If it were me, that $73MM would be split between 2 studs and the rest cheap players but that’s me. He chose to go the sub $12MM a year route and thanks to the hold overs from 2018 and some luck last year reinforced his plan. I believe it was pure luck and his plan won’t create sustained winning but many think it will. Of course, I have watched optimistic fans since 1960 claim this will be our year and they were wrong 44 times in a row.
For me, with this regime, I feel like I’m watching history repeat itself and hoping I live to see the next ring but the odds in Vegas on that happening are close to a million to one until Bloom is gone.
Also, DD left with a Championship Team positioned to win after 2019 when injuries and Cora killed the season. He never exceeded the CAP with his active roster so it’s a HUGE EXAGGERATION to suggest he left anything a mess. The 2019 mess is on CORA and the skill level of the team has not been maintained by Bloom but would have been by DD without exceeding the CAP. DD would not have had to do anything in 2020 to get under the CAP thanks to COVID but if he did have to move payroll to refresh his team, he would have done the same thing he did all other years, he would have made deals and ended with an active roster that cost less than the CAP. These comments reflect genuine FACTS not my opinion. Spotrac supports what I just wrote. DD DID NOT OVERSPEND!!! He simply refused to take responsibility for the past mistakes before he arrived.
Dewey – FACTS – DD did not over spend
DD Active Payroll Injured Payroll TOTAL Payroll
2016 $165.121MM $19.568MM $184.689MM
2017 $172.159MM $5.941MM $178.100MM
2018 $167.956MM $18.074MM $186.030MM
2019 $165.856MM $37,584MM $203.440MM
AVG $167.773MM $20.292MM $188.065MM
BLOOM
2020 $109.204MM $55.784MM $164.988MM
2021 $202.603MM $2.833MM $205.436MM
2022 $192,775,000 $0MM $192.775MM
AVG $168.194MM $19.539MM $187.733MM
Pulled these from Spotrac for the last 7 years.
NOTE – DD’s spending each year was under the CAP just like Bloom.
2019 and 2020 show extremely high payroll numbers for the injured
2022 as of mid March has Bloom spending more money that DD spent during ANY of his Division Championship years.
Their average spending is nearly identical and DD has 3 DIV TITLES and a RING and Bloom has nothing. This is why I am unhappy with the performance of the new, inexperienced GM from TB, a small market team.
I’m not trying to be difficult when I criticize him. I’m trying to get folks to set expectations comparable to what we’ve had for 20 years. I don’t want the team to go back to the pre-2004 expectations and the idea that mythical things will happen to make things better next year.
That sounds too much like the Cubs fans motto for over 100 years
“We’ll get em next year”
Let’s fix the problem because clearly the numbers show something is badly broken if you can spend comparable money for 3 years with no results. Maybe the fact that DD created immediate results and Bloom can’t is setting too high of expectations on Bloom but if so “WHY FIRE DD?” the data shows he created absolutely NO FINANCIAL PROBLEMS.
Only the owners did with past mistakes.
I could not care less about how Bloom spends money. He accomplished goal 1 effectively. Goal 2 is another World Championship. They crushed two East teams in the playoffs and had the Astros on the ropes until the ump blew a third strike call. That apparently woke up the Astros and that was the end of their season. Yes, it was important to finish ahead of the Yankees but they let the Rays go and it turned out fine. Probably because Bloom used to work for them, he knew how they could be beat. Maybe. Or they were just the better team at that point in time. Bloom is excellent and so is Cora. Give it a rest and let’s see what happens.
I’m a fully credentialed actuary (FCAS). Look it up. Probably the ideal skill set for predicting outcomes. But I don’t go there because it’s more fun to wait and see. Let’s go!
Those numbers are wrong. Red Sox were over the cap in 2018 and ’19. Here are the real Collective Bargaining Tax numbers:
DD’s Years:======CB’s Years:
’16 — 204.0======’20 — 207.6
’17 — 191.9 ======’21 — 184.7
’18 — 239.5======’22 — Unk
’19 — 243.7
Avg—219.8======Avg—196.2
You’re welcome.
Peasy – I couldn’t have made it more clear. I will wait until the regular season starts before judging the offseason, but as of now I’m not happy.
What’s wrong with saying not off to a good start?
dewey – I think if you ask five different people how those guys left the team, you’d get five different answers.
Did Dombrowski leave the farm system bare? Yes, somewhat. But obviously he left a solid core of players, as evidenced by last year’s team. Remember, all five All-Stars were acquired pre-Bloom.
Epstein and Cherington left a bunch of bad contracts, but they both won championships so hard to complain.
Joe – I honestly don’t know to which posts you are referring. Heck, I wasn’t even posting regularly here last spring. I certainly wasn’t here for preseason predictions.
I would’ve gone for the sister, Gretel, but I don’t judge.
Queue Undertaker music
So are we going with the classic Taker theme or the American Bada$$ Taker theme.
He used the classic theme in Anaheim
See, the Red Dox (too many unvaccinated players) do want to win, sort of, and not in NYC, where most of their players will sit…..
Starters???
If you thought it was funny watching Hansel point in the sky for every home run he gave up that he thought was a pop up, it’s gonna be even funnier when he’s pointing up after giving up *would be* pop-ups that somehow go over the Green Monster.
Hey, what do you expect from Bloom. Hansel is perfect for Bloom. Under $12MM. Not a big value add. It shouldn’t take Bloom too long to whittle away the $20MM from the new CAP. He’s a nickel and dimer not a big spender by transaction just in total.
Bloom is now $10MM above the money DD spent in 2018 to win a World Series and we still have the same all-star players (Sale, Bogaerts, JD, Eovaldi and the Butcher) No adds from Bloom and there will be no adds in the future by Bloom.
This is the future Red Sox fans get used to it. Let’s hope the owners come to their senses in less than 86 years!!
KD, the biggest chunk of the roster is money DD spent, especially Sale and Price. Please stop knocking Bloom when he arrived to clean up things financially, dealt with the pandemic and has the team’s farm in their best position since they were able to pick early due to losing years in 12, 14 and 15. If course finishing last during COVID helped but look at his first draft. Both Yorke and Jordan seem like the real deal and he was planned big-time for Yorke.
Agree with Yorke, and your thoughts on Bloom cleaning up DDs mess financially. They got under and stayed under the cap last year. He did it. Now it seems he’s just showing off.
They have a lot of money coming off the books after this season… maybe then Bloom will spend while still building the farm to offset those signings.
Now they just need to trade for Graterol. Hansel & Graterol.
I will be graciously optimistic and say they’re just building up to a meaningful acquisition.
I wish!! Who do you think will be buying the Red Sox? hahaha
the day KD is right about something related to the Red Sox will be the first day he is right about anything related to the Red Sox….
Even a blind squirrel …
Wait! He wasn’t right about the RS winning 65 games last year?
Hahahahahahahaha!
It does bring up a good question. If he predicted 65 last year, and hates every move this year, I wonder what this year’s prediction will be.
Eeeeeek. Watching him pitch was nail biting. Results were ok for what seemed like heart attack worthy feelings while he was out there. I remember literally walking away from games to do chores while he pitched (mostly due to seeing him so often as a Met), and only coming back in when the wife said he got through the inning or taken out. Very few pitchers get that reaction from me, and he is one. The other recent one was Felix Doubront. I would sit there yelling every three ball count he would always run up, then watch him either miracle his way through innings, or get beaten by baserunners piling up. The crazy thing was he didn’t walk a million guys (whip 1.47), but lord did he almost walk everyone. Only guy I ever saw that when he got 0-2 on a hitter, it was literally 3-2..
Agreed!! His career BB/9 is 3.8 because his 2019 number was 2.0 but his Boston number is 4.7 leading to a WHIP of 1.36. He’s played 7 years and his WHIP has been over 1.34 5 times!! Control issues? You bet. Great strike out guy but maybe a guy with a lower ERA, less strikeouts and a much lower WHIP might have been a better choice. His 27 innings in Boston led to 13 walks and two hit batters so to be a good reliever he needed to give up just 12 hits in those 25 innings but he gave up 21 which is solid if his walk rate was normal.
Hey but on a positive note, he could get lucky two years in a row. It could happen. Same for the Red Sox.
He reminds me of “Full Pack” Don Stanhouse with Baltimore in the 1970s when he would walk the bases full and then get out of the inning. Earl Weaver nicknamed him “Full Pack”.
AL34 – I lived through the Mitch Williams years in Chicago and watching Zimmer spend twenty minutes wiping his forehead as Williams walked the bases loaded THEN struck out the sides!! Great Stanhouse reference!!
Robles finished the regular season on a 15 appearance / 13.2ip scoreless streak
As a Yankees fan, I’m thrilled.
Doug, as a Red Sox fan I’m thrilled you’re a Yankee fan…
Wait, you’re not talking about Dewey Redman, Joshua’s dad?
Remember when Teixeira was on second base making fake signals, mocking Hansel who thought he was stealing signs? That was one of the funniest things I’ve seen on a ball field.
Good times.
Chaim Bloom loves his high strikeout rate guys.
Warm up the Duck Boats.
LOL
Bro was too often a dumpster fire for the Mets.
Plus I don’t think anybody liked him.
We were in on Freeman, in on Jansen, in on Story, in on Rodon, in on EROD, in on Schwarber and Bloom always comes up a day late and a dollar short. Then we settle on released players with minor league contracts and other dumpster projects. We pay Wacha a guy with an ERA above 5.00 the last three years over 5 million, sign a 42 year old in Rich Hill, and an injured pitcher who is no help until maybe August in Paxton. Yeah Bloom is knocking them dead this off season. This team will be lucky to finish 4th this year with Sale hurt again. Baeggarts is going to walk at the end of the year when Bloom low balls him too. Bloom will expect Baeggarts to probably take a pay cut to stay in Boston next year.
AL341 hour ago
We were in on Freeman, in on Jansen, in on Story, in on Rodon, in on EROD, in on Schwarber
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We were never in on those guys, except for Story. Y’all need to be able to read the MLB-R with some discretion. We were never, ever going to sign Freeman, we were never mentioned for Jansen or Rodon, we QO’d ERod, who you people hated, and gave lip service to Schwarber to raise his price to others.
Y’all are the guys that ‘Rumors” loves. You’ll believe anything.
Pay attention to the media. We were in and interested in all of them. Get use to life with Chaim Bloom like Dan Duquette, in on everything but we’re outbid and beat out.
Dude, this happens every spring. We get connected to everyone. It’s been this way forever.
Just ask yourself a question. Why would we be interested in Freeman? He’s a lefty, and we are looking for a righty bat. He plays a position where we already have a starter, and a position that our best prospect plays. And we need either an outfielder or a 2B.
Freeman made -0- sense.
Oh, yeah. Duquette. The guy who kept wanting to stock the Boston roster with Montreal Expos. That was comical. His man-crush on Mel Rojas was something.
AL34 – you are on the same clueless level as KD, lol, lol, lol
Don’t like hearing the truth genus ?
Hey genus look at the MLB Trade Rumors and we were connected to Freeman. Maybe you do not know how to read and that is the problem.
How that bum pitcher with the freakishly long fingers make out? We got him from Montreal, Pedro Something-or-other. I heard he moved to Up-State NY. Cooperstown I think.
it’s probably because they are the same person.
“He plays a position where we already have a starter, and a position that our best prospect plays. And we need either an outfielder or a 2B.”
Kinda funny how all of this applies to the Story acquisition.
Baeggarts is going to walk at the end of the year when Bloom low balls him too. Bloom will expect Baeggarts to probably take a pay cut to stay in Boston next year.
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If you’re going to pretend to be a RS fan, learn the spelling of the guys that have been here 9 years. It’s spelled ‘Bogaerts’.
Listen genus, I have been a Red Sox fan since the 1970s with Fred Lynn, Carl Yastremski, Jim Rice, Rick Burleson, Butch Hobson, Dennis Eckersley George Scott and have forgotten more that you will ever know about the Red Sox. Stop criticizing when auto correct fixes Bogaerts name.
There’s no way autocorrect changed “Bogaerts” or anything else to “Baeggarts.” Twice.
Focus more on signing quality than spell check genus. I would not call Wacha, Hill, Robles elite signings with the finances we have. Would not call getting JBJ back for Hunter Renfroe a great trade either. You keep drinking the Kool Aide as the Red Sox turn into Tampa Bay northeast!
Autocorrect is stupid, but it is consistent. If its gonna change bogaerts once, its gonna do it agaon and agaon.
Yastrzemski!!!!!!!
Ahhhhhhhhhh.
-YAZ
Find me any collection of letters that autocorrect will change to “Baeggarts,” which is neither a word nor a common name. If you miraculously find one, I’d lay good odds against anyone accidentally typing it twice in one post.
OUTSTANDING!!
Even the Twins had a better off season than we did. They signed Corea. We traded a guy who hit 31 homeruns for a guy who cannot hit period in JBJ (wonder if that was a political correctness trade) picked up Shaw on a minor league contract, signed Wacha, 42 year old Hill, an injured pitcher in Paxton, lost Schwarbers homeruns. Bloom aka “Rube Goldberg” quick fix is knocking the off season dead.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
How did all your whining work out last year?
If Bloom had picked up a good reliever at the trade deadline, we might have won the World Series instead of using starting pitchers like Eovaldi as closers
Of course, at the trade deadline, Barnes was one of the best closers in baseball, so we didn’t need a closer.
And if you watched the games, you’d have realized that we lost the final two games because we scored 3 runs altogether. Unless the RPs you wanted were named Soto and Vlad, we weren’t winning with three runs.
* 3 runs scored in the final 3 games.
Barnes also took a chunk out of his thumb making an omelet for himself. I would figure management would have known that and picked up another good reliever. PuttingMartin Perez in the game was not a great move. He was awful. If you had a better reliever that might have been a good spot to put him in
Yes they did forget how to score
YOU ARE ON A ROLL!!!!
minors? not bad.
He seemed worse than his numbers lead you to believe.
And now I’m happy with the contract. He has potential but needs to prove himself. Minor league with incentives is perfect.
Upon further “analysis”:
George Steinbrenner, the world’s greatest owner and spending virtually unlimited money on players, won championships in 7 out of 38 seasons for an 18.4% success rate.
The current Red Sox owners who totally suck at their jobs, are 4 out of 20 or 20%.
I guess success sucks.