12:43pm: Hale also winded up testing positive, reports Mandy Bell of MLB.com (Twitter link).
12:38pm: This afternoon’s game between the White Sox and Guardians has been postponed, Major League Baseball announced. Cleveland is dealing with multiple COVID-19 positives, and the teams won’t play today “to allow for continued testing and contact tracing.”
This marks the first game of the 2022 season postponed because of virus concerns. Under the MLB – MLBPA health and safety protocols for this season, the commissioner’s office has final authority on whether to postpone a game. Protocols state that “MLB intends to postpone games only if necessary to protect the health and safety of Club personnel, players and umpires. Games will not be postponed for competitive reasons provided the Club has a sufficient number of players available to substitute those players on the Active Roster who are unavailable to play as a result of COVID-19.”
The league has not yet announced rescheduling plans. Today would’ve marked the rubber match of a three-game set between the teams. The White Sox host the Yankees for four games starting tomorrow; the Guardians have a scheduled off day Thursday before heading to Minnesota for a weekend series. The division rivals have four more series on the schedule, so it seems likely today’s game will be made up as part of a doubleheader down the line.
The identity of any players affected by Cleveland’s outbreak is unclear. Jesse Rogers of ESPN reports (on Twitter) that the positive tests “mostly” involve coaches and other staff members. The team had announced this morning that manager Terry Francona tested positive for the virus, with bench coach DeMarlo Hale set to serve as acting manager. There’ll surely be forthcoming updates about other individuals who have tested positive. At present, Cleveland has one player — infielder Yu Chang — on the COVID injured list; Chang went on the IL in mid-April and has been on a rehab assignment with Triple-A Columbus for the past week and a half.
They should take an L then not PPD.
It’s been over 2 years. If you’re stilling alive you’re probably good.
Just not true. 300 people died of COVID yesterday.
Francona has serious health issues, I can understand why they’d be careful with a spate of positives among the team.
USA?? Or one state? So your goal is to prevent all deaths? There are 3700 traffic deaths every day yet you still drive, right? The covid phobia has run it’s course.
It’s not a phobia if you’re taking precautions. If the weather sucks, you don’t drive if you can avoid it. That’s not a phobia.
People wear seatbelts when they drive. Won’t necessarily prevent them from dying but it drastically reduces the chances. Same reason the large majority of Americans got the vaccine.
@always: Yes, ONLY 350 deaths from COVID daily in the US. Your car accident statistic is for global. In the US, more than 38,000 Americans die in automobile crashes per year. So each day is about 105. (per http://www.nhtsa.gov).
So that’s .000089%. Sounds dangerous
I think we found the problem. People that don’t understand math. You from Florida?
You still wear a seatbelt and you still don’t stand under trees during thunderstorms right 25 man?
Yes, it’s time. Let it go. We all have to do what we need to in order to care for ourselves.
@pads fan Died of Covid or died with Covid? Small but important difference
@alwaysgo4two Math is not your strong suit. Imagine if 1,350,500 people died every year in the U.S. This country would have a negative population growth rate.
Would not have died if covid wasn’t involved. All that matters is the died part.
Mrmackey joins in with his tinfoil hat to spread more misinformation, mmk!
No proof he died because he was vaccinated, but proof doesn’t matter to you.
Vaccines kill a minuscule percent of people who take them but that makes you scared? I guess you can’t complain about people who are scared of COVID then.
No one dies from COVID. People die with Covid. 99+% have preexisting medical issue.
That number is laughably false but let’s see you cite a source anyway. What was Herman Cain’s preexisting condition? He was cancer-free for 13+ years.
Of COVID. COVID as primary cause of death on death certificate.
I’ve had COVID, had it before there were vaccines. I have nothing to worry about from COVID.
Can’t say the same about vaccines.
And you didn’t answer my questions.
And I don’t care if people are “scared” of COVID. Take 15 booster shots, wear double N-95 masks and cower in fear indoors. I don’t mind, that’s your life and choiices.
Exactly how many people have died from the 2 vaccines available in the US?
Melendez didn’t die from the vaccine. Come on tinfoil hat boy, come up with some facts.
What, are you allergic to mRNA vaccines or something?
“I’ve had COVID, had it before there were vaccines. I have nothing to worry about from COVID.”
Do you understand that immunity wanes? Ask your doctor about this, please.
No proof that Andres Melendez’s death was covid or vaccine related
Lol! Okay, Nancy!
@mrmackey – there are absolutely deaths of passengers wearing their seatbelts that would have happened had they not been wearing it, so should we just stop wearing seatbelts altogether?
There have been 14,596 preliminary reports to VAERS about deaths from COVID vaccines (0.0025%) and 3 confirmed cases that were not related to the J&J vaccine. 4 deaths were attributable to the J&J vaccine. The mRNA vaccines have proven to be the safest vaccines in history.
Only 665 confirmed cases of myocarditis or pericarditis as a result of a COVID vaccine among those under 25.
580 million doses given and 220 million people vaccinated under the most intense safety monitoring in US history. 4500 confirmed deaths after receiving the vaccine (0.00000775862) and 7 confirmed deaths that were attributable to the vaccines.
I answered your question MR tinfoil hat. But the facts won’t matter to you.
Died from covid or with covid? There’s a difference
Hate to join this particular convo, but I am here to correct your immense math skills jonbluvin. There were 3.4m deaths in the USA for 2020. Just fact-checking ya, have a good day!
Pads Fam, How about sticking to talking baseball. There’s no need to start spewing inaccurate statistics. You want covid talk I’m sure Fauci has a site you can find
Oldman: how about showing us how these stats are inaccurate?
@Gwynning I meant auto deaths. My mistake in forgetting that word. Is it clearer now? Imagine the population growth rate with an additional million deaths from the absurd notion that 3700 people die every day from driving accidents in the U.S..
The CDC keeps official stats on people who have “adverse reactions” to vaccines. They have done this for many years. The adverse reactions to covid vaccines are in the tens of thousands. So are the deaths. Make of it what you will, but those who are anti-vax don’t need to make up stuff to be wary. Facts are out there if you’re looking for them.
The deaths from COVID are in the hundreds of thousands, almost a million.
But let’s see these facts of yours.
That’s a 100% lie
You’re right, my mistake. It’s OVER a million Americans.
Stymeedone has the best take here
Important distinction, thanks for the clarification.
So, you would feel no responsibility if you got COVID, transmitted it to someone else, and that person died or suffered long-term health consequences? Just so we all understand what obligation you feel to protect your fellow human beings. I think I understand now.
Its called the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System or VAERS. Anyone can report to it. There is one that said their adverse reaction to the Pfizer vaccine was that their skin turned green and they burst out of their clothes. You know, like the incredible hulk. None are filtered from the raw data regardless of how ridiculous they are.
cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/vaer…
There have been approximately 580 million doses of COVID vaccines given to 220 million people in the US so far and the reported adverse reactions numbered in the hundreds of thousands, 368,986 to be exact, not tens of thousands. 1.67% (that is one point six seven percent) of people that have received at least one COVID vaccination have reported of some type of adverse reaction that ranged from a sore arm to being more tired than usual to anaphylaxis.
wonder.cdc.gov/controller/datarequest/D8;jsessioni…
14k deaths were reported to VAERS after receiving a COVID vaccine with 4.5k verified that the people actually died and 7 deaths attributable to effects of the vaccine.
ALL of the data is available to the public. Go to the CDC and download it
COVID vaccines have been had the highest level of tracking and scrutiny in history and they have had the lowest incident of adverse reactions and deaths of any vaccine ever.
It is a lower percentage than that of any vaccine children receive each and every year.
Those are the facts. If you are still wary now, you are not paying attention to those facts or you are listening to the wrong people. The COVID vaccines in the US are both the most highly tracked and have proven to be the safest in history.
Fact is, there was no excess mortality in 2020, and the average age of “Covid” death was the same as average life expectancy.
In 2021 the death rate increased, after the magic serums were introduced.
False, the rate decreased by 103 people per day. Plus of the people who died, the vast majority weren’t vaccinated. Look at the facts. Here are the numbers: worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
Yea!! Someone using rational thought instead of irrational fear. The death numbers on otherwise healthy people are minuscule.
Duh go4two, they’re vaccinated you dummy
Misanthrope.
How can someone be allergic to mRNA? Our cells make it every day. If someone was allergic to mRNA, they would be dead.
That common sense appears to be in the minority here.
So much scrolling down required…
Oh no what will Dolan do?
*SPIDERS
**SOUTH SIDE WHITE SOX
still the indians
Still waiting on mom to make him his hot pocket while he cries “INDIANS” from the basement
Meatloaf!!
And Mountain Dew! Nothing like hot pockets, meatloaf and dew in moms basement crying over “bUt MUh InDiAnS”
If only the team was fully vaccinated…
So if you’re vaccinated you can’t get Covid? Is that the new rule?
Never said that. My point is the vaccine is supposed to keep one safe, limit symptoms, ect. It’s 2022. Everyone old enough at the ballpark has had the ability to get vaccinated. So why are we telling someone who has no symptoms or minimal symptoms that they can’t play? Owen Miller couldn’t play earlier in the year even though he had zero symptoms. And please don’t say to limit the spread. Once someone tests positive, it’s already spread to multiple sources.
They’re not cancelling the game due to severity of illness. It’s due to people getting Covid. Period. End of story. You can get it vaccinated or unvaccinated so why even comment on the teams vaccination status lol
Are we canceling games for influenza as well? You’re missing my point. Stop testing. It would solve the majority of this. Experts are all saying that we probably won’t be able to eradicate this. So in 2028, are we still going to have individuals not playing because they have some sniffles and test positive for COVID?
Justin – I think you’re the one missing the point.
The fully vaccinated comprise 40% of all Covid deaths during Omicron.
jsonline.com/story/news/2022/05/06/covid-19-deaths…
So you’re saying to let the infected walk around untested, spreading a virus that could lead to several deaths and countless new cases?
That’s cold, man … really cold.
It likely has already spread to multiple sources but that’s no reason to let it spread to even more.
In a vacuum, a bunch of healthy 20 and 30 year olds have almost no risk factors.In reality these guys live with wives, kids, and parents and interact with a lot of people.
So if we can limit some spread, that’s a good thing.
We were never going to eradicate it. But that didn’t stop government agencies from imposing lockdowns and closures that ruined many small businesses.
So we should have worked to preserve small businesses in the first half of 2020 instead of preserving human lives?
The anti-vax commissar of last season, typhoid tony Rizzo, looked at “all the data”(his phrase) and was On Board for the series in Toronto.. Could be that either the Yankee management or just as likely the players indicated that they wanted a teammate who wanted to win ALL the time. .It pays.
Halos – Exactly. It’s like most STD’s won’t kill you, but I’d guess both your girlfriend and you would want to know if she has one.
Considering we went a full year of covid, December 2019 to December 2020, before a shot was available to the public 40% of deaths being vaccinated is quite a lot considering unvaccinated had a full 12 month head start before we even counted deaths among vaccinated.
In some cases, they are synonymous.
Oh boy here we go again with this guy Oh Boy Here We Go! Do you understand how many fewer deaths of COVID there were during the omicron strain than in every other strain prior? Is it too liberal for you to understand math?
Lockdowns prevented less than 1% of deaths according to a John Hopkins study.
abcactionnews.com/news/national/coronavirus/johns-…
In fact, shutting down businesses was actually the worse thing to do since it just funneled everyone into a central location, Target Walmart, where they were exposed to the virus.
Why would you take views on public health issues like lockdowns from economists instead of, oh I don’t know, doctors and epidemiologists?
My bad missed the omicron part.
FYI omicron was known to be a less deadly strain.
nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00007-8
Congrats on surviving a less deadly strain?
Why would I distrust people that got everything wrong this entire time? Yeah thats a hard one to figure out.
Move those goal posts!
Didn’t move it. I admitted i missed the poster said omicron. happens
nice job ignoring omicron was known to be a less deadly strain though.
Ok, so you don’t trust expert opinion. I suppose you have a better idea of what they should have done with all your knowledge of public health. Please enlighten us.
Are these the same experts that told us you have to wear a mask entering a restaurant but can take the mask off while sitting down around strangers for an hour or more?
If you can admit that, you should be able to admit you’re wrong that vaccines work. Ask your doctor all your questions. Stop asking Facebook and Fox News.
Where did I say it doesnt work?
Vaccines work. Covid shot isnt a vaccine though.
Its at best a therapeutic to reduce chances you develop serious illness just like a flu or cold shot. Doesnt provide immunity or anything. You can still get covid and infect other people, and also develop serious illness and die still.
If you want the shot get the shot. But your shot doesnt make my shot work better or worse and someone with no shot doesnt make your or my shot work better or worse.
Preserving lives? You mean the 30 min wait times at Lowes for the “essential mulch and flowers?”
What’s your point? My neighborhood hardware store stayed open the whole time, so did the mom-and-pop grocery store. You’re acting like “essential businesses” weren’t small businesses at all.
His point is people waited 30 minutes in line surrounded by people possibly infected with covid increasing their chances of exposure and infection BECAUSE only certain stores were open.
His point is also if it was really about saving people’s lives, non essential stores, big or small, would have been forced closed. Lowes Home Depot Walmart Target in many instances didnt need to be open. You need food. You need water. You don’t need gardening supplies.
Dude those stores have groceries and equipment for plumbing, I’m pretty sure that’s essential.
Not all of them do. Which is why I said in many instances. Not all Walmarts and Targets carry groceries. Also what plumbing materials were necessary that you didnt already have available, or should have, like a plunger?
What you were going to redo the pipes yourself?
Point is claiming it was to save lives was hog wash. It didn’t have much of an impact other than destroying businesses and peoples lives.
“Not all” move those goalposts some more! It’s your favorite thing!
You can’t argue that chain stores like Walgreens or big box stores don’t have essentials. The small businesses were allowed to remain open too.
Not everyone can take the vaccine. Immune compromised people don’t have the choice to take it. Some Cancer patients. Its to protect others. Consider it like a very contagious flu if you like. Do you force players with the flu to the field?
This is like the 4th time you’ve screamed move that goal post. You dont seem to know what that means. Its like youre repeating something you over heard on xbox live in between them insulting your mom and insulting your gaming skills.
Numbers vary as no one knows the exact number but upward of 200,000 or more businesses closed permanently .Allowed to remain open LMAO. Good one.
wsj.com/articles/covid-19s-toll-on-u-s-business-20…
5th time you’ve used it incorrectly.
Richt: “The small businesses were allowed to remain open too.”
200,000+ weren’t.
Also businesses = jobs = money = how people provide for their families. 200,000+ business closures means at least 200,000 people lost their jobs for really no reason.
@Stymeedone – It’s not about forcing players to the field. If you’re too sick to play, don’t play. But MLB is telling players who have little to no symptoms that they can’t play. Will everyone be okay with this 10 years from now, but I’d guess there is a good chance that people will be testing positive in 10 years.
“Moving the goalposts is an informal fallacy in which evidence presented in response to a specific claim is dismissed and some other (often greater) evidence is demanded. That is, after an attempt has been made to score a goal, the goalposts are moved to exclude the attempt.”
Exactly what you’re doing, changing the criteria, from essential to nonessential businesses.
Keep failing, this is fun to continually own you.
Haven’t owned me once. But hey if believing so makes you feel better and gives meaning to your sad existence. Believe whatever helps you sleep better at night man. You’ve clearly got a lot of issues you should be dealing with in therapy. A lot of aggression and anger. Not sure why. Get help friend. God loves you. Remember that.
You seem really obsessed with my sex life for some reason. Obsessing over some random persons sex life on the internet isnt healthy.
Ah now you’re talking about health, did you hear that from your doctor too? Ask them about vaccines next time.
Your mental health yes. Which is different than your physical health.
Also my doctor recommended against the covid therapeutic. Too many heart related issues. But thank you for your concern.
and fertilizer
Good job listening to him, you’re making progress. Just because you shouldn’t take it, doesn’t mean that millions of others shouldn’t either.
If people want to take it, take it. 2nd time i’ve told you this. Might want to schedule yourself a dementia test richt. If you catch it early enough they can help.
Then why do you continue to argue that they don’t work? If you have no problem with people taking it.
Show me where I said they don’t work.
Your first comment! “Considering we went a full year of covid, December 2019 to December 2020, before a shot was available to the public 40% of deaths being vaccinated is quite a lot considering unvaccinated had a full 12 month head start before we even counted deaths among vaccinated.”
Then you went to say they don’t provide immunity. Vaccines stimulate immunity and always have.
It doesn’t stimulate immunity though,
Youre not immune. You can still catch and spread the virus. Even 4 shots deep you still can spread and catch it.
That isn’t saying they don’t work. Thats saying they don’t prevent infection or spreading. They reduce chance of serious illness. Which is the 3rd time I told you this.
What does the shot do: reduce chance of serious illness and death. You can still get seriously ill and die though.
What doesnt the shot do: prevent infection or spreading
No vaccine prevents infection or spreading 100%, it dramatically reduces it. It does so by stimulating your immunity. Ask your doctor.
Thats false. Polio vaccine eliminated polio enough that USA has been considered polio free since 1979.
Point of a vaccine is to stimulate immunity to the point that a virus cant spread as easily. You don’t need 100%. But you do need a high percentage to say a population is “immune”.
Point of a vaccine isn’t let people still get sick, infected, and spread the virus especially from those considered “protected”.. You can experience mild symptoms and still pass the virus to “protected” and unprotected people alike.
cdc.gov/polio/what-is-polio/polio-us.html#:~:text=….
That’s because EVERYONE got vaccinated for polio! This is why everyone who can be vaccinated should! You used one of my favorite arguments for how vaccines work, thanks for doing the work for me.
If 25% of the population refused to be vaccinated for polio in the mid-20th century, do you think it would have been eliminated enough?
Not everyone has the polio vaccine though. Before covid polio vaccine rate was between 90%-95%.
And even at 50%-60% vaccination rate when they first began giving people polio vaccines cases dramatically plummeted and never recovered.
Same cant be said about covid where over 60% of the population was “protected” and omicron tore through the country like a hot knife through butter.
It’s still a vaccine. M-W:
Definition of vaccine
1: a preparation that is administered (as by injection) to stimulate the body’s immune response against a specific infectious agent or disease: such as b: a preparation of genetic material (such as a strand of synthesized messenger RNA) that is used by the cells of the body to produce an antigenic substance (such as a fragment of virus spike protein)
“In fact, shutting down businesses was actually the worse thing to do since it just funneled everyone into a central location, Target Walmart, where they were exposed to the virus.”
To piggyback on this, I couldn’t believe that public businesses such as gyms and stores were forced to reduce their hours. So instead of X number of people working out between 5AM-10PM, they had to do so between 8AM-6PM. Tell me again how forcing a smaller window for people to enter a public place actually helps prevent transmission?
Just goes to show, many of the decisions being made were asinine.
Yes, the CDC changed its definition of vaccine to be ‘more transparent’
The latest CDC definition is absent the word “immunity” and just focuses on the stimulation of the body’s immune response.
The CDC also changed its wording for the definition of “vaccination” from “the act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease” in 2018 to “the act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce protection from a specific disease.” The key differences here are, again, the absence of the word “immunity” in the latest definition and the change to “protection” instead.
It works so well we need to change definitions.
newswest9.com/article/news/verify/coronavirus-veri…
I’m not using the CDC’s definition. I’m using Merriam-Webster’s.
Are they a part of this big conspiracy too?
So what should they have done instead Fever Pitch? Shut down ALL businesses?
Not a conspiracy. They changed definitions. Thats fact. Not some conpsiracy theory. A lot of publications did.
But yes. They also changed definitions.
languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=50886
Ok then use the “standard” one from that article: 1. any preparation of weakened or killed bacteria or viruses introduced into the body to prevent a disease by stimulating antibodies against it.
You introduce something into a body to stimulate an immune response. Like mRNA. They used an mRNA vaccine to treat zika. Is that not a vaccine either?
Hey richt you missed – “prevent a disease by stimulating antibodies against it”
If you catch covid after taking a shot it didn’t prevent the disease.
If you catch covid after taking a shot and experience symptoms it didn’t prevent the disease.
If you catch covid after taking a shot and experience severe symptoms it didnt prevent the disease.
Maybe you and I have different definitions for the word prevent.
Prevent
keep (something) from happening or arising.
“action must be taken to prevent further accidents”
If I took 3 shots of the polio vaccine and still caught polio I’d have some questions. Turn off the TV and you wouldn’t even know there was a “pandemic”
They changed the definition of vaccine because this isn’t one.
It prevents serious illness, that’s not good enough for you?
All these vaccines were based on previous strains. Viruses evolve. It takes time to get out in front of it. This has been happening with the flu vaccine for decades. Is that also not a vaccine?
Hahaha ok.
richt – I would have at the very least kept hours the way they were, if not expanded them.
I just don’t see the purpose of shrinking hours during a pandemic, which caused everyone packing into stores and gyms during a smaller period of time each day.
And I also noticed two-entrance/exit stores closing one of them during the pandemic, why? Makes no sense, funneling everyone into one entrance/exit instead of two.
The easiest and most effective method of preventing transmission is distancing.
All the grocery stores I went to did have specific hours for seniors and also limited the number of people who could enter, so I don’t think that having shorter hours made anything worse.
Stop testing? You sound like the ‘Stop the count” folks. Relax, there is still an ongoing pandemic. The flu is not pandemic.
Clearly, the climbing infection rates and death tolls tell us lockdowns and closures didn’t work.
You birdbrain, look at the infection rates and death tolls in March–May 2020 when EVERYWHERE was locked down. Nothing has been widely locked down since.
“Youre’ not going to get Covid if you have these vaccinations.”–Joe Biden, July 2021
“I’m like a, , stable genius “, said by D t rump.
Joe Biden literally rambled about how most parents need to take their kids to the McDonald’s parking lot to do their homework and get internet.
Dog, DT got tossed out on his keister. So should poor old Joe. 330 million people in this country and these two are all we could find?
And t rump wouldn’t know how to even sign in.
To ‘for love of the game’.
I agree with what you are basically saying, but if ol Joe didn’t run, it would have meant four more years for the most corrupt and incompetent adm in our country’s history.
Donald Trump was an objectively better president Bush, Obama and now Biden. Stop embarrassing yourself. Not only am I a lifelong resident of the south side of Chicago my family has been involved with unions, government jobs and local politicians from aldermen to mayors and even a former state senator. My friends drove Daley’s kids to St. Ignatius back in the day. I dated the grandniece of the former state senator. I am intimately familiar with how awful Democrats are.
The topic on hand is how absurd it is that we are cancelling games because of positive tests and not symptoms or severity of symptoms. We are beyond the pandemic now. Covid is not going anywhere. Everyone will get it or be exposed at the very least. People under 50 and relatively healthy have almost nothing to fear. Those over 50 with multiple comorbidities should take appropriate precautions. However at some point we have to get past this nonsense.
Indeed, “All Leftists lack critical thinking skills.”
That is indeed the dumbest thing I have ever seen posted here. Let’s kill grandma because I may not die of the disease. I don’t know of any thing that is a sicker way to think.
Bless your heart
Lmao you’re still basing your opinions on the Daleys and drank the Trump Koolaid? Most historians agree he’s one of the worst all time, but lets be objective like you’re saying: a pandemic, race riots, an affair with a pornstar, withholding military support from Ukraine because they wouldn’t help him smear Biden, which surprise surprise, set the stage for Russia to invade them. Stop embarrassing yourself!
Anyway, Francona is over 50 and has major blood clotting issues so this seems like an appropriate precaution.
There was like, more Covid deaths from 1/20/21 to 10/6/21 with 3 vaccines than the entire year 2020. Doh!
Dog, but we got the dumbest administration in history in its place. Is there really any difference? Well, yeah, there is the difference that the economy actually functioned under Trump. And he oversaw the development of vaccines under Operation Warp Speed. I wish we could have done better than Trump, but we actually have a worse president now!
Dow hit a record high under Biden sooooo…..
Lol nice try. Corrupt is what we got now.
Oh so withholding military aid to Ukraine unless they dug up dirt on the son of the guy he knew he’d lose to wasn’t corrupt, got it.
Former city of Chicago Dems, should NOT be confused with normal Dems. Former city of Chicago Dems – – are exactly like 98% of the GOP are, today.
Wow nice job repeating what MSNBC and CNN told you. Kudos
Oh as if you didn’t get that “number” of 99% from FOX News
Richt, so has inflation, at least a 40-year high. And the Dow, well that was so yesterday.
Maybe Trump shouldn’t have started sending out those stimulus checks and McConnell shouldn’t have pushed out all the legislation to get people emergency funds during 2020, eh?
And yet you have demonstrated no critical thinking skills.
Yeah, how is it looking now?
google.com/search?q=dow+stock+market&rlz=1C1G…
Presidents don’t send out stimulus checks.
Congress does. Financial decisions about spending originate in house of reps man.
Which is why Biden can’t forgive student loan and why Biden wasn’t able to deliver on his promise of $2000 stimulus checks. Congress only approved $1400
cnbc.com/2021/01/15/critics-say-bidens-covid-relie…
Who controlled the Senate then? The GOP. The Senate is a part of Congress, just so you know.
The Orange Guy put a letter with my stimmy claiming an awful lot of credit.
Stock market is tanking under Biden and your response is “BUT TRUMP”
Sad.
Sorry your mutual funds are slipping, finance bro!
You’re so naive if you think the previous administration didn’t start this. But continue living in your incel Proud Boy cocoon.
Incorrect. 2020 house was under Dem control. 435 seats, 235 democrats, 199 republicans.
You would know this by who speaker of the house is. Controlling party gets Speaker of the House. Which is Pelosi. Who is a democrat.
My finances are fine, thankfully.
Your bank account, not so much. 8%+ inflation is really hurting Americans, like you, and all Biden wants to do is send Ukraine billions.
The Senate approved it. We have a bicameral legislature. If one body doesn’t approve it, it’s not law. The GOP-controlled Senate also approved the stimuli.
You clearly don’t get how the government works.
2019-2021 Senate was under Democrat majority
history.house.gov/Institution/Presidents-Coincidin…
You failed really bad at blaming republicans when democrats had control of both house and senate.
To each their own though.
Also, spending bills are never law. You really don’t know how this works huh?
Lmao your link says that the GOP had control of the Senate from 2017–2021, epic fail
2019-2021 says democrat majority. Once again your vocabulary sucks. Must have learned that skill from your mother. Could suck her way out of any bad situation.
You’re looking at THE HOUSE YOU MORON
Oh my god you really think that the speaker of the House has full control of Congress? You’ve lost all credibility, if you had it to begin with.
Lmao Oh Boy says that the Democrats had the Senate in 2019–2021 because Pelosi was speaker and says that I’m getting an education.
Gov Cuomo (handsy Andy) killed 15k grandparents.
Look at it now, genius
How did he do that desert?
Those stimulus checks, Biden’s stimulus his stupid $2 trillion infrastructure are largely responsible for 9% inflation we have today. And no, its not because of Russia.
Why am I not surprised desertbull is a homophobe? And doesn’t realize that the GOP Senate approved the first stimuli that started this all?
And now it is almost negative under him.
Negative what? Negative inflation? Sounds good to me Brian!
“In the battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed.”
George W. Bush, in front of that “Mission Accomplished” banner aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln, May 1, 2003.
Not quite sure what Dubya and a war have to do with a Covid outbreak, but um yeah.
BaseballBrain…..
Donald Trump ~
February 2020
The outbreak would be temporary: “It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle—it will disappear.
February 2020
The coronavirus would weaken “when we get into April, in the warmer weather—that has a very negative effect on that, and that type of a virus.”
June 2020
The pandemic is “fading away. It’s going to fade away.”
October 2020
“Remember, when you catch it, you get better, and you’re immune,”
Shall I go on?
Point is all and I mean ALL politicians talk out of their keister at times. Some “stable geniuses” do it more often than others to try and protect their keister and look smart.
Because from February 2020 to May of 2022 we haven’t figured out anything about the virus huh? SleepyJoe has the advantage of that timeframe and so much more me know about it today than February 2020 yet he still bumbles on like Mr. Magoo and screws up everything. Joe and his people told us vax and boosters would prevent the virus, not lessen the symptoms, yet still pretty much forced people to surrender to it. What an absolute cluster&$#l
You think The Orange Dictator would have done better, Polish? You think fewer would have died? You think more people would be vaccinated?
@polishsausage If everyone got vaccinated it likely would have prevented spread. Unfortunately 33.2% of the people in the US are not smart enough or have enough morals to want to protect their family and friends from the disease and refused to get vaccinated. Those that represent them in Congress, think RED, blocked giving more vaccine to underdeveloped countries. So we had 93% of the deaths in the US from January 2021 to March 2022 come from that unvaccinated group and many variants come from that same group around the world. Those unvaccinated people filled up hospital beds and for every one of them that died, they killed 2 more that couldn’t get an acute care bed for other health problems. The cluster #$^$^ is YOU.
More people died of Covid from Jan 20th 2021-Oct 6th 2021, then the entire year of 2020 in the United States. Your turn.
Your arbitrary dates are stupid, Brian. When the woke lib who you despise from your incel lair in mom’s basement was inaugurated, the vaccines weren’t widely available.
More people died in first 9 months of Prez Poopy Pants, despite 3 vaccines, than the entire year of 2020.
COVID death toll in US on 1/20/21: 436.097
COVID death toll in US on 10/20/21: 762,623
Get your facts straight. Look at the total death charts on WorldMeters for the US. Look how flat the curve got during that time.
93% of them were unvaccinated. Your turn.
@maxiPads Fans keeping following the science genius, the same science that proved what a hoax it all was.
Lol science did not prove COVID was a hoax, do you get your science from 4chan?
Not arbitrary at all, check Johns Hopkins website.
You cite economists for public health issues Brian, do you believe them over your doctors too? You’re a slave to $.
Plus your numbers are wrong: more people died during the time Trump was in office.
That’s fake news, it’s a fact more people died of Covid under the Biden watch and that’s with the full rollout of vaccines and boosters.
Lmao are you really that much of a moron to use the fact that more people died during Biden’s 16 months on the job due to COVID than in Trump’s 10? I guess nothing surprises me with you since you believe My Pillow man’s election conspiracy theories.
An average of 1341 Americans died per day because of COVID from the first reported death on 2/29/20 until crybaby snowflake Trump got booted out on Inauguration day. Since then that number is 1237 and the curves are far flatter. Want me to tell you how many of those deaths since 1/20/21 were unvaxxed nutjobs?
worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
Scroll to deaths.
The current dominant strains in the US have 23 and 27 different proteins respectively than the strain we were being infected with last summer and other than a small number of proteins is an entirely different disease than Alpha, the original SARS-COV2.
Having COVID before gives you ZERO immunity against the two dominant strains in the US today and only a 65-70% protection if you are fully boosted. What being vaccinated does is keep you from dying and from filling up beds that should go to people smart enough to be vaccinated that have other health issues not related to COVID. From July 2021 to March 2022, 93% of deaths in the US were among the unvaccinated.
That you are not informed enough to realize those facts but still feel like you should make a comment on the subject says volumes.
‘Trump told Woodward that “[the coronavirus] is a killer if it gets you. If you’re the wrong person, you don’t have a chance.”’
‘“So this rips you apart,” Trump said. “It is the plague.”’ – recorded phone call with Bob Woodward, April 13, 2020
He is correct. People with underlying conditions are a lot more likely to pass away.
Yeah. Too bad he told them masks were a violation of their liberty while he crammed indoor arenas with his unmasked, unvaccinated devotees.
Hey at least Herman Cain of COVID died with his “liberty” intact!!!
Are those the same masks people were told worked only to be told 2+ years later that they in fact didn’t work unless you were wearing an N95 or equivalent cause everyone was getting omicron despite wearing masks?
I dont remember ever being restricted access anywhere if I wasn’t wearing an N95 mask. Anyone ever get kicked out of places for not wearing an N95 mask?
Move those goal posts some more! The omicron variant didn’t exist two years prior.
Variants dont change size of particles.. Changes genetic make up. Delta particples arent bigger or smaller than Omicron particles.
If masks didnt stop omicron they didnt stop delta or alpha or any variant. Cause theyre the same structure but different genetic coding.
Richt: HUR DUR COVID DIFFERENT NAME MAKE THEM DIFFERENT
Great insight there sparky. Using the ol noggin I see.
You’re ignoring that masks weren’t mandated in as many places during the omicron wave. How’s your noggin?
Many places dropped mandates prior to the delta wave. Your point? Omicron was much more contagious and spreadable than delta. Places that kept mask mandates didn’t do better either, in fact many states that had mask mandates in place such as New York and California did worse in many instances despite mask mandates still in effect for both waves.
And none of those places had lockdowns during omicron or delta either. My point is that you’re ignoring the mounds of scientific evidence that masks work, regardless of what variant.
They don’t. Unless its medical grade like an N95. No one was ever prevented access anywhere based on type of mask they wore though during alpha delta or omicron.
https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20220115/cdc-updates-mask-guidelines-cloth-masks–least-effective
I mean duh those are less effective. But LESS effective does NOT mean doesn’t work… come on dude.
Your source literally says: “the CDC update doesn’t come out and say Americans should avoid cloth masks but clarifies that some kinds of masks work better than others.”
Health experts advise to stop wearing cloth masks.
“We want to make sure that it is not a cloth mask. A cloth mask does not offer protection,” said Asha Shajahan of the Mayo Clinic.
cbs42.com/news/health/coronavirus/health-experts-w…
then they say to wear a SURGICAL OR N95 MASK, not stop wearing them altogehter
I never said stop wearing masks. Maybe try reading what I write better.
Me: “Are those the same masks people were told worked only to be told 2+ years later that they in fact didn’t work unless you were wearing an N95”
Point isn’t what you should wear. Point is the “experts” let you wear cloth masks for 2+ years then changed the science on you despite evidence masks they allowed you to wear wasn’t working.
When were they saying you should wear cloth masks instead of surgical ones? When were they advising you to do something they knew was less effective even back then? I always remember hearing that N95s/KN95s were better, even in spring 2020.
I don’t think you were actually listening to the experts, instead you were listening to Hannity/Carlson.
You seem to have an unhealthy obsession with right wing news man. Like really unhealthy. You assume anyone who disagrees with your views is somewhere right wing. Not the case, at all.
When? 2020
“In an editorial published today in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA), CDC reviewed the latest science and affirms that cloth face coverings are a critical tool in the fight against COVID-19 that could reduce the spread of the disease, particularly when used universally within communities”
Thats cool what you heard. But this is what everyone was told by the experts back then that cloth masks were crucial despite many people coming forward with data questioning the effectiveness of cloth masks.
cbs42.com/news/health/coronavirus/health-s experts-warn-to-stop-wearing-cloth-masks/
Look how many of those people died. 93% of the deaths from July 2021 to March 2022 were unvaccinated.
That doesn’t help your point, bible thumper.
They don’t work as well as the others, but they STILL WORK and are better than nothing.
“We want to make sure that it is not a cloth mask. A cloth mask does not offer protection,” said Asha Shajahan of the Mayo Clinic.
Mayo Clinic says you’re incorrect.
“My advice would be get rid of the cloth mask, get rid of the gator,” Dr. Stephen Thomas , Director of Global Health at Upstate Medical University
cnycentral.com/newsletter-daily/get-rid-of-your-cl…
You’re ignoring the fact that NONE of these people are saying that masks as a whole don’t work. Just cloth masks. Do you think all these people would say that it’s better to NOT wear a mask at all than wear a cloth mask? How thick are you?
You’re not handling being wrong very well it seems. Its ok man. Here’s another one.
CNN’s medical analyst Dr Leana Wen has said that cloth masks are useless in the fight against the spread of the Omicron variant of Covid-19, instead encouraging viewers to wear three-layer medical masks.
“Cloth masks are little more than facial decorations. There’s no place for them in light of omicron,” CNN Medical Analyst Dr. Leana Wen, an emergency physician and visiting professor of health policy and management at the George Washington University Milken Institute School of Public Health, said last week.
Remember. If a certain type of mask doesn’t work for 1 variant it doesnt work for all variants.
msn.com/en-us/news/us/don-t-wear-a-cloth-mask-cnn-…
Dude are you literally still arguing that “masks don’t work” when continuing to cite articles that say you should wear something better than a cloth mask? Then saying I’m wrong? Read over what you’re writing, it makes no sense. You look like fool.
Cloth masks dont work* and the experts moved the goal post on you* 2nd time I explained this to you. Keep up.
Me: “I never said stop wearing masks. Maybe try reading what I write better.
Point isn’t what you should wear. Point is the “experts” let you wear cloth masks for 2+ years then changed the science on you despite evidence masks they allowed you to wear wasn’t working.”
So saying cloth masks don’t work means ALL masks don’t work? You are so unbelievably dense.
Your conclusion is wrong and a bad one
Me: “I never said stop wearing masks. Maybe try reading what I write better.
Point isn’t what you should wear. Point is the “experts” let you wear cloth masks for 2+ years then changed the science on you despite evidence masks they allowed you to wear wasn’t working.”
The science never changed, idiot. The earth always revolved around the sun. The experts figured out what was correct/worked better.
And they NEVER said ALL masks don’t work. All of the links you’ve posted here keep saying that masks work, just that some work better than others. You said it yourself: N95s and medical masks work.
You’ve lost ALL trust in a group of experts who objectively know more than you about all this because they thought something was effective and it actually ended up being less effective? Again: dense.
Richt says science never changed lmao. Thats cute
2020
“In an editorial published today in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA), CDC reviewed the latest science and affirms that cloth face coverings are a critical tool in the fight against COVID-19 that could reduce the spread of the disease, particularly when used universally within communities”
2021/2022
CNN’s medical analyst Dr Leana Wen has said that cloth masks are useless in the fight against the spread of the Omicron variant of Covid-19, instead encouraging viewers to wear three-layer medical masks.
“Cloth masks are little more than facial decorations. There’s no place for them in light of omicron,” CNN Medical Analyst Dr. Leana Wen, an emergency physician and visiting professor of health policy and management at the George Washington University Milken Institute School of Public Health, said last week.
“We want to make sure that it is not a cloth mask. A cloth mask does not offer protection,” said Asha Shajahan of the Mayo Clinic
“My advice would be get rid of the cloth mask, get rid of the gator,” Dr. Stephen Thomas , Director of Global Health at Upstate Medical University
If the science never changed richt why did we go from cloth masks are crucial to get rid of cloth masks completely don’t use them?
Science never changed. It just hadn’t been discovered yet. Did the science change when Copernicus proved the earth revolved around the sun? Was it the other way around before it was discovered?
Again, you are so unbelievably dense that you continue to say that because the cloth masks were shown to not work AS well and these people you’re citing are LITERALLY SAYING TO WEAR BETTER MASKS that they shouldn’t be trusted. Think about that one. If you can.
If the science never changed richt why did we go from cloth masks are crucial to get rid of cloth masks completely don’t use them?
“We want to make sure that it is not a cloth mask. A cloth mask does not offer protection,” said Asha Shajahan of the Mayo Clinic
Not a cloth mask means don’t use cloth masks
CNN’s medical analyst Dr Leana Wen has said that cloth masks are useless in the fight against the spread of the Omicron variant of Covid-19, instead encouraging viewers to wear three-layer medical masks.
Cloth masks are useless doesn’t mean continue to use a cloth mask.
“Cloth masks are little more than facial decorations. There’s no place for them in light of omicron,” CNN Medical Analyst Dr. Leana Wen,
Little more than facial decoration means they dont work.
Science doesn’t change. Do you see my point yet? Science is fact. It always existed even before we were aware of it.
Cloth masks don’t work as well, yes. We knew this in 2020. At least I did. So I found a better one. Cloth masks not working as well doesn’t mean that given the choice between a cloth mask and no mask that you shouldn’t wear the cloth mask.
Keep repeating yourself and ignoring logic/my actually thought-out/non-bird-brained point.
Science doesn’t change? So the sun revolves around the earth? Earth is flat? Huh science seems to change a lot there richt. Including the science about cloth masks as proven by the experts opinion on cloth masks changing between 2020 and 2021/2022
You havent really proven anything other than you’re incapable of providing stuff to back up your points and refuse to acknowledge sources contradicting the world view you hold on to so dearly for some reason, however wrong it is.
Lmao pot trying to call the kettle black. I guess I have to speak to you like a fourth grader.
Let me spell it out for you: science is constant. When people thought the sun revolved around the earth, they were wrong. The science didn’t change, the science was always happening. People just didn’t know it yet.
Cloth masks never worked as well. Some people knew it. Maybe others didn’t. However, NO ONE was saying you should go maskless vs. wearing a cloth mask. You still won’t acknowledge that.
You also still won’t answer the question why these experts making a new discovery about cloth masks totally discredits them and prevents you from trusting them at all.
Tell me more about how this worldview is wrong.
“Are those the same masks people were told worked only to be told 2+ years later that they in fact didn’t work unless you were wearing an N95 or equivalent cause everyone was getting omicron despite wearing masks?”
Except that never happened. Where does all this disinformation come from? Seriously, man — who told you that?
We were told from the start that N95 masks and masks of equivalent quality were best, but they didn’t want us using them because there was a shortage of them for first responders, doctors and nurses. We were told that therefore we should use available surgical masks if we could find them, and at least a cloth face covering if nothing better was available.
It wasn’t until the professionals were supplied with N95s that it was suggested that the rest of us could use them; but even then, surgical masks would help prevent the spread of the virus, and a cloth mask was better than nothing.
I live in New York. We had over 1,000 deaths in a single day in mid-April 2020. The City enforced masks in public, social distancing, and lockdowns. By August we were suffering less than 10 deaths a day; the curve was flattened without any vaccine. Don’t tell me masks don’t work. The Pfizer vaccine didn’t receive emergency use approval until the following December. All we had was masks, social distancing, and targeted lockdowns.
This is the CDC mask guidance now:
‘Wear a Mask When There is A Lot of COVID in Your Community
‘Wear a mask in public places where there are a lot of people around.
‘The mask must cover your nose.
‘The mask must cover your mouth.
‘The mask must fit under your chin.
‘The mask must be snug on your face.
‘Make sure it is easy to breathe.
‘If you visit someone who might get very sick from COVID-19, wear a mask when you are with them.
‘If you might get sick from COVID-19, talk to your doctor about when you should wear a mask.
‘You can wear a mask inside public places like grocery stores and movie theaters at any time.
‘You can wear a mask in outdoor public places like parks at any time.
‘If you have been with someone who is sick with COVID-19, take a self-test or go to a doctor to get tested for COVID-19.’
This was the CDC guidance last August:
‘Wear a Mask to Protect Yourself and Others
‘Masking is a critical public health tool and it is important to remember that any mask is better than no mask.
‘Wear the most protective mask you can that fits well and that you will wear consistently.
‘Wearing a well-fitted mask along with vaccination, self-testing, and physical distancing, helps protect you and others by reducing the chance of spreading COVID-19.’
“We were told from the start that N95 masks and masks of equivalent quality were best, but they didn’t want us using them because there was a shortage of them for first responders, doctors and nurses. We were told that therefore we should use available surgical masks if we could find them, and at least a cloth face covering if nothing better was available.
Nice revisionist history
2020
“In an editorial published today in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA), CDC reviewed the latest science and affirms that cloth face coverings are a critical tool in the fight against COVID-19 that could reduce the spread of the disease, particularly when used universally within communities” – July 2020
Cloth masks not only effectively block most large droplets (i.e., 20-30 microns and larger),9 but they can also block the exhalation of fine droplets and particles (also often referred to as aerosols) smaller than 10 microns3, 5 which increase in number with the volume of speech10-12 and specific types of phonation – CDC
In community settings, however, cloth masks may be used to prevent community spread of infections by sick or asymptomatically infected persons, and the public should be educated about their correct use. – Abrar A. Chughtai, corresponding author Holly Seale, and C. Raina Macintyre October 2020
The CDC now recommends everyone use cloth masks in public – April 2020
At one point the CDC even recommended making your own masks LMAO
npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/…
Look. Google is free. Anyone can easily debunk your false claims man. You can’t hide history and what was said and by whom. This went on for 2 years before they said “dont use cloth masks” despite overwhelming evidence they weren;t working the entire time.
This still doesn’t mean you should just dismiss the advice of experts.
It does when the expects are wrong more often than not and actively ignore and hide data contrary to their interests.
You see the data dump coming out of Pfizer about their trials and all the issue they actively hid about the shot? Why in the world would you trust anyone actively trying to suppress data and hide stuff from you is beyond any rational or coherent thought process.
Its cult like behavior when you stick your fingers in your ears and go LALALALALALLA when presented with facts.
To each their own though. Live your life how you want.
Their interests were to promote cloth mask wearing? Are cloth mask wearers a part of the grand conspiracy too?
All the data you cite wasn’t compiled in 2020. There weren’t giant mask studies prior to the onset of COVID in spring 2020 for them to rely on for advice.
Again, wearing a cloth mask > no mask at all. That’s the main reason they said what they said.
Their interest is $$$. Which is why Pfizer and the other companies have every incentive NOT to release data. Which is what they tried to do requesting 55-75 years to do so. You really dont seem to get what a conspiracy theory is LMAO. Every thing you call a conspiracy theory is based on fact and has happened.
This isn’t hard. Dont continue to trust people caught lying and deceiving you for 2+ years, especially ones who change their minds about the science not based on data or evidence but on political talking points.
People in 2020 and 2021 were labeled conspiracy theorists saying cloth masks dont work. Yet they were actually correct well before the “experts” admitted such.
You’re trying to make me believe in some conspiracy theory that masks don’t work. I don’t think they make masks.
4th time.
Me: “I never said stop wearing masks. Maybe try reading what I write better.
Point isn’t what you should wear. Point is the “experts” let you wear cloth masks for 2+ years then changed the science on you despite evidence masks they allowed you to wear wasn’t working.”
You’ve got the memory of a goldfish richt.
These experts that you think you’re smarter than can’t change science. You still don’t get how science works. You think that Galileo changed science
Why are you still dying on the cloth mask hill? If you think they’re untrustworthy, why are you trusting the experts who say other masks are ok?
The same as the double vaxxed and boosted people that wore their mask everywhere.
Here are the CDC mask recommendations, publicly available to anyone who cares to be informed. I have no interest in deceiving you:
cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick…
P.S.
It shouldn’t surprise or scandalize you that the mask guidance changed over time. They called it a “novel” coronavirus for a reason. It was new. They were fighting a fast-spreading, mutating virus they knew little about, but they knew it was killing people in the thousands at an alarming rate. It took time and experimentation to fine-tune the recommendations.
Instead of playing “gotcha” with the “inconsistency” of the guidance, you ought to be praising the scientists for the dedicated work they did to keep as many people safe as possible, even though morally bankrupt political demagogues and ill-informed quacks did their best to undermine their work.
Experts? Like the fraud Dr. Fauci that contradicted himself every time he spoke. No thanks!
Hilarious! Already had it, I’ve had colds that were far worse and didn’t require shutting down everything.
Here’s some more, from CBS News, Jan. 14, 2022:
‘The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has updated its mask guidance to note that N95 and KN95 masks offer higher levels of protection against COVID-19 than cloth masks, although it stopped short of recommending that everyone wear them. The change comes as the rapidly-spreading Omicron variant continues to cause record-breaking numbers of infections, straining the ability of hospitals to treat the influx of patients.
‘”Well-fitting NIOSH-approved respirators (including N95s) offer the highest level of protection,” the CDC’s website now says, referring to products evaluated by the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health.
‘The CDC says loosely woven cloth masks provide the least protection, while those with layers, well-fitting disposable surgical masks or KN95 masks offer progressively more.’
cbsnews.com/news/covid-19-cdc-mask-guidance-n95/
You think you’re smarter than these doctors and epidemiologists huh Polish?
” Already had it, I’ve had colds that were far worse and didn’t require shutting down everything.”
Then you had a mild case, which probably resulted from exposure to a lower viral load. Additionally, the virus doesn’t attack everyone in the same way, and the scientists are still trying to figure out why. Some people are hit primarily with respiratory problems; others have problems with other organs, because it can attack them all, including the brain.
Fauci didn’t contradict himself. You seem not to understand how science works. When you’re trying to analyze a replicating, mutating virus that’s infected humans for the first time, it takes time to figure out what you’re dealing with — how it attaches itself, how it attacks, how quickly it mutates, how destructive it is, how contagious it is, how resistant to our natural defenses it is, which drugs might be useful against it, etc.
Fauci and his colleagues didn’t have a book they could read to get all that information. They had to arrive at answers through observation and experimentation. That’s how science works. Their guidance changed appropriately as their knowledge of the virus evolved.
There was nothing cagey or nefarious about Fauci’s advice. You should be grateful to the man for all the lives he’s saved. There’s nothing noble about being an ingrate. I can assure you, with no fear of exaggeration, that Dr. Fauci has saved a lot more human lives in his long career than Tucker Carlson or Alex Jones has.
“Look. Google is free. Anyone can easily debunk your false claims man. You can’t hide history and what was said and by whom. This went on for 2 years before they said “dont use cloth masks” despite overwhelming evidence they weren;t working the entire time.”
What quote you posted rebuts what I said? None of them. This is what I said:
“We were told from the start that N95 masks and masks of equivalent quality were best, but they didn’t want us using them because there was a shortage of them for first responders, doctors and nurses. We were told that therefore we should use available surgical masks if we could find them, and at least a cloth face covering if nothing better was available.”
This is a rebuttal?
“The CDC now recommends everyone use cloth masks in public – April 2020”
Look at the date, sir. April 2020. In April 2020 there was a critical shortage of masks and ventilators. Like I said, the authorities didn’t want the public to buy up the limited supply of masks when the professionals desperately needed them. I don’t know where you live, but in New York City you couldn’t find masks in any of the drug stores. You couldn’t even find rubbing alcohol or hand sanitizer with 10 million people scouring the stores for whatever they could get their hands on. It took months for the drug chains to start stocking those things. Of course the CDC was telling people to use cloth masks if they could get them or make them. In mid-April in New York, a 1,000 people a day were dying. The doctors and nurses were on TV pleading with people to give them any extra masks they could supply. They were reusing disposable surgical masks in the hospitals out of necessity.
Cloth masks did work, and they still do:
“The CDC says loosely woven cloth masks provide the least protection, while those with layers, well-fitting disposable surgical masks or KN95 masks offer progressively more.” – CBS News, Jan. 14, 2022
“Loosely woven cloth masks provide the least protection” — exactly as I said. There’s a big difference between “least protection” and “no protection.” Your interpretation of the guidance is inaccurate.
“COVID will be gone in two weeks”
– Donald Trump March 2020
You have not been paying attention at all huh?
Cue the comments from the alt-right with their tinfoil hats and conspiracy theories…
More like cue the ridiculous “should have been vaccinated comments” lol like it makes a difference in terms of if you can get it
You know you don’t need to be alt-right to know how to interpret data, right?
If you’re alt-right, you probably don’t even know what data, is.
The alt-right only cites data when it aligns with their gut.
-dogbone- you are probably the WORST commenter I have ever come across. As negative and narcissistic as it gets.
Stop whining about him dissing your incel alt-right friends, snowflake. Go to your safe space in mom’s basement with xbox live and Joe Rogan.
Leave the poor dears alone. They’re licking their wounds, or thereabouts since they found out they can’t spend the rubles they were paid to post here.
Mom’s basement never looked so dreary.
Somebody needs to tell MLB that Covid ended a long time ago.
Can that someone also tell that to the 279 people who died of COVID yesterday in America? Since it’s over, they didn’t actually die of COVID, right?
People die every day from all sorts of stuff. Just put your helmet on and your 15 jabs, then you can go and yell at everyone. It’s amazing that these players get paid millions but somehow are so incredibly brittle that they can’t go outside and work. Overpaid adult children. I get if you have a major medical condition and you shouldn’t be out at all. But it’s less deadly than the flu. Put on your big boy pants and go act like an actual adult and not some broken piece of plastic. Sad how much people don’t want to work but need everyone to supply them with their daily needs. Sad. Laziness.
Drew Waters Bat then yells at cloud!
People die every day huh? Let’s not to anything to try and prevent it huh?
@richt Do you realize that about 7500 people died yesterday (and every day) of other causes? Close to 3 million people die every year in the US. The people dying from Covid are an average age of 80 and many are unhealthy, and could have died soon for any number of reasons. I mean give me a break with crying over every person who dies, as if any of us are going to live forever. We have 330 million people in this country, a little less than 1 percent die each year which is a lot of people. Death is a part of life, so is getting sick once in a while.
I’ve talked to seniors who didn’t want any of this control freak nonsense imposed on the younger members of family when Covid was way more dangerous to people than now, because locking up the world was an incredibly destructive and life robbing plan, and did little to stop the spread anyway. Probably 2/3 of the population has gotten it by now, maybe more. The overall survival rate is like 99.5 percent, even higher with Omicron. If you exclude the sick and elderly, the survival rate is close to 99.99 percent. Nothing needs to be cancelled, other than the fear and allegiance to this control freak ideology that isn’t based on science, but those that have the desire to control and have power over people. The most intelligent comment on here was the one who said we should stop testing and get on with our lives.
You do realize that 2 people that would not have normally died, did so because of the unvaccinated people clogging up hospital beds?
Augusto, you do realize that the people who are dying now are the unvaccinated, right?
Funny you didn’t care this much every single flu season before 2020 but yet your trying to force others to protect you from them. That sounds weird even to type yet here we are. It’s a flu variant but everyone is running around acting like it’s the black plague or the potato famine or botulism. 98% chance to survive this but botulism is almost 100% death rate. Why are you not screaming for research in that? I see your good at gaslighting but not so great when pressed with particular facts.
that’s because it’s WORSE THAN THE FLU, ask a doctor. Don’t listen to cable news.
*you’re
Not really worse. They are about the same but again, if you bothered to educate yourself you would do better but again, your aren’t capable of learning something new that isn’t supplied to you by buzzfeed or reddit but I get it. No I don’t. You ignore everything and everyone around you because your a simpleton. You can’t think for yourself so you rely on group thinking. Whatever your wife’s boyfriend tells you is acceptable, that’s what you preach. Funny your trying to correct my speech while your wife is getting corrected. Like cows, you stand in a field and moo hoping someone will listen.
Tells me to educate myself then says “your aren’t capable” and calls me a simpleton. Can’t actually argue points so just disses my wife. Pathetic small-brained, limpdick incel man right here.
Again, ask your doctor if it’s worse than the flu. Are you capable of asking your doctor a question and then listening to them?
I wasn’t dissing your wife. I’m dissing you. I’m saying your wife’s boyfriend is a step up from you. She’s upgrading, or getting upgraded but don’t worry you won’t have anything to do with it. I can argue points but you won’t learn from any of it. If I felt you might get some value from them or have atleast a decent or somewhat accurate rebuttal. But I know for a fact you aren’t capable of that.
Let’s see, you told me I couldn’t actually address any of your points after you just resorted to making some insult about my wife. Sounds about right for someone as stupid and cowardly as you. Can’t actually argue my points (which are obviously right and anyone with half a brain knows) so you go durrr durrr your wife is sleeping with someone else.
Did you finish seventh grade or are you still there?
Again, I didn’t insult your wife. I didn’t call her ugly, or fat. I said she was getting busy with someone other than you. How many victims cards do you actually have? Again with the coward word. I’m pretty sure the only time you fought is when your sisters beat the crap out of you. Your wrong on almost every point you post. You try to act informed but have nothing more than trigger words to argue.
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I said insult ABOUT my wife. Now you’re making an insult about my sisters. But you have reading comprehension issues so I get it.
How many victims are there? Like a game of whack a mole. So what was the insult about your wife? You again. Dang sorry I forgot your still the ultimate victim.
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Why are you still here making yourself look incapable of English, coward?
Fact still remains you resort to insults instead of actually discussing points, which shows both that you’re a neanderthal and you know deep down that you’re wrong.
You complain about insults as you toss them. Hypocrite. How am I incapable of English? Because you get butt hurt over where an apostrophe is? You talk about cowards but you haven’t done a courageous thing in your life.
Your not discussing points. You say something, people disagree with you and you tell them how they are wrong.
Because you don’t understand a basic tenet of English as the difference between your and you’re. Possession vs. a contraction.
I’m infinitely more courageous than you: I vote for Democrats.
Ahahahaha. So your to blame for the colossal screw ups of ol Biden huh. That explains a lot. I now understand you are a full blown Marxist. Tell me, which city block did you pee on then burn? I bet you think he is doing an excellent job? Your mind is fully gone. You don’t have enough bread crumbs to get back to square 1. Your drinking all of that kool-aid. Your on planet 9. Full blown gas lighting and just out right lieing. Your so proud of it to. Like the proud boys you are.
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Are 80 some million other Americans also Marxists? Just because they didn’t want your Proud Boy dictator to be president? You poor coward.
Ahahahahahahaha. Again. Your* dumb. I didn’t vote for Trump. Ahahahahahaha. Your* 10 ply thick bud. It’s so funny. You defend free speech and you must be a Trump fan. It’s comical how much you care about where an apostrophe is but not about the southern border.
I have 10 play thick? That’s what you’re saying. Do you understand now?
I care about the southern border: we gotta let more people in, they’re coming from Ukraine now. Plus we need more people from different cultures so we have less inbreeding among the unworldly like you.
Not a single person coming across the southern border is coming from Ukraine Lier. 10 ply thick. Means your not very bright. Quite dumb. Not to intelligent. 10 ply. Get it? Your not only sipping for your wife. You simp for everyone. Good boy. Sad.
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theguardian.com/us-news/2022/may/03/ukraine-refuge…
Has there ever been a bigger oxymoron than typing “your not very bright”? I don’t think so.
Ladies and gentleman, ex. A: the neanderthal manchild
Why would you go under your foot to touch your forehead?
It says 500 people. That’s not nearly as many people as you were making it seem.
I didn’t make it seem like anything, you said there wasn’t a single person
It’s amazing all of those other great countries in the world they have skipped to land in the US. Because they know great liberals like yourself will be there to give them everything free at the expense of the tax payer. The women you preach about can’t get baby formula at any stores but yet we’re gonna give Ukraine $40 billion to fund a war we have no business being in. What a coward you are. See how I repeated what you said?
Agreed I did say not 1 single person. <This is a sentence I will never see you write even if inside, you actually agree with something I say.
Oh so we should just let Russia overrun them? How much do you love Putin, Russian bot? Go move there.
You’d prefer we keep all the immigrants out huh? Maybe the Natives shouldn’t have let your ancestors come from white bread Europe either.
Let’s tax the rich so you and I aren’t paying for it.
Oh boy, so many points. I’ll do what you won’t and address every sentence because your saying I don’t address what you say.
It’s not the United States problem to provide military for wars we aren’t involved in, putin didn’t bomb the US and they aren’t fighting a neighboring country, stay out of it.
I don’t love or hate putin
Not a Russian bot
I’m fine here thanks. You should move there since you love Ukraine now so much. Weird, 1 year ago you couldn’t tell me where they are on a map now you expect to give them 40 billion?
There should be a better immigration system, but this isn’t an immigration. It’s an invasion. What was it the other month they caught 43 or so, can’t remember the exact number of people, on terrorist watch lists. What do you have to say about that? That’s the number they caught. Not how many got across. Seriously what do you have to say about that? Just because I’m white doesn’t mean most of my family didnt immigrate here until after 1730. Except for the Cherokee in my family. Been here a little longer.
You really haven’t a clue on what your talking about or who your talking about it to. All you can do is harp on spelling and punctuation errors. You assume so much but are off so far. It’s really astounding your ability.
Taxing the rich would be fine but it’s amazing so how the lower class keeps getting consistently screwed.
So why are we giving $40 billion to Ukraine but yet moms here can’t find milk, anywhere. America has enough problems to fix on its own before it trys helping out the world.
You love Putin and don’t respect Ukraine’s sovereignty, we get it.
Stop listening to Tucker Carlson: no one is invading the US. They aren’t coming here to replace you whites. They come here for the same reason your family did.
As the child of an immigrant, I know a lot more about what we’re talking about than you do.
You’re saying they caught 43 people off the terrorist watch lists coming over the border? ok bud, waiting for you to cite this
You call me dead inside but you have no empathy for these people because they aren’t American.
You know nothing
I know how to type you’re and your, so I already know more than you. What’s less than nothing?
Remember the outrage from the woke ones last year… “Oh, My God!!! Why would they be exposing people to their germs? They should have worn a mask! Those Bio-Terrorists!” LOL, the woke are fun to play with.
Yeah, that was really funny . . . huh-huh! (burp).
worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
Those dirty woke libs, caring about other people’s health! The audacity!
If only they cared about unborn babies….aka future people.
Unborn people are not people. Is all my sperm also future people?
Saying unborn people aren’t people is like saying little league players don’t play baseball. Absolutely ridiculous, disgusting and a sad comment. Also, who said you have sperm? None of you libs do.
Ask your mom about how much I have.
Unborn babies are dependent on their mothers for literally every bodily function because they are inside her body. Little leaguers aren’t. But nice try. Only religious people believe that they’re people. Last I checked, there is separation of church and state in this country.
It’s eventually a real person, but it’s not when it’s inside an ACTUAL real person. And that person has a right to say whether or not they want it, especially when they were forced to procreate.
1. Nice comeback, you seem like a secure guy.
2. You literally just admitted they are “unborn babies” inferring they are living (you are right, they are living.)
3. Yes, religious people DO in fact believe the unborn baby is a living soul, because it is. You’re right again!
4. There actually IS a separation of church and state in our government, which is ALSO true. Guess what? There is also I think called freedom of religion, which means you can CHOOSE what religion you have! Isn’t that MIND BLOWING!
Ok, so people have a right to take away another one’s life? So my body my choice, right? Ohhh EXCEPT when someone else wants it taken away. I forgot. And also, there is nothing I can do about it.
Something UNBORN is by definition NOT LIVING, are you stupid? Do the people thinking about having kids have unborn babies? Are they living too?
You can absolutely choose these things. You can also choose not to have a religion. And the government should not impose the beliefs of one religion on ALL its citizens, many of whom do not believe in those teachings.
Try again!
Who ever said the government was imposing political opinions? I don’t know where you live, but I live in a place called the “United States of America” where religion is an option and a freedom. From the moment of conception, the baby has a soul. It may not yet be BORN, but it is a living thing.
“It is impossible to win an argument against a dumb person” this quote makes a lot of sense right now. You should keep trying, maybe one day you will convince yourself that you are a man.
That’s literally what the government does by saying that women don’t have the choice of what happens with their bodies.
Prove to me with science that a baby has a “soul” when it’s conceived. Prove to me that a “soul” makes something living. You’re using abstract terms. These are just your opinions. They are not grounded in fact or science.
Nice try to gaslight me, though! Except it actually was really weak.
A soul does not make something living. Only humans have souls, and humans are not the only living things. Also guess what, women DO have a choice what to do with their bodies and it’s called using their brains. Also, this is not their bodies we are talking about, this is another innocent persons life that is taken away by bad decision making.
So a woman who gets r*ped isn’t using their brain? And we shouldn’t care about her body? Just make her have the innocent “life”? There’s a word for someone who believes in forcing this on another human who is ACTUALLY and undisputedly alive: evil.
So a woman who gets r*ped isn’t using their brain? And we shouldn’t care about her body? Just make her have the innocent “life”? There’s a word for someone who believes in forcing this on another human who is ACTUALLY and undisputedly alive: evil.
Maybe if you bother to look up what’s going on you might learn they aren’t banning abortions outright they are just going to push it back down to the states to make the individual choices for their state. To many grown women who use abortions as birth control. Have relations with a guy they don’t see a future with, abortion. Have relations with a guy with lots of money, they use that baby as a credit card for 18 years to get whatever they want. Your a full blown liberal. You can’t possibly understand in any way shape or form that your wrong on anything. You have a one track mind. It’s your right and are never wrong so you don’t need to actually delve into something and read about it because you know you don’t want your position/idea challenged or changed.
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You did it twice! “Your wrong” lmao the ultimate fail
So how about the women who aren’t using it as birth control in those states? Whose dads r*pe them? Do they not matter to you? Or you think they’re just golddiggers too? Your misogyny is showing.
I know exactly what’s happening and thankfully there are states in this country who care about women’s bodies.
The “ultimate fail” is caring about spelling on a baseball trade rumors site. If that’s not rock bottom, what is, libterd?
Your either a bot or a paid Marxist. All you have is gaslighting or small tiny examples. I gave you a bunch of examples but yet you haven’t tried to argue any of those. I can give you more examples but you will do what you seem to do your whole life. Blame everyone else for all of your problems and cry when you don’t get your way. I feel sad for you. Not like I’m gonna cry for you but sad because I know you won’t be anything more than the victim I’m sure you claim to be.
You can’t even spell the epithet you like to call people who disagree with you! Comparing them to mentally handicapped. And you wanna talk about rock bottom. So precious.
YOU’RE so dumb that your “examples” are a great reason why you SHOULD allow abortion. Given the choice, do you think it’s worse for a woman to abort her fetus rather than use it as a credit card for 18 years? As if this only affects the wealthy.
Keep minimizing women who are sexually assaulted. You probably love Trevor Bauer huh?
To be fair, I do know how to spell it, I would just get censored. Also, you’re right, I didn’t need to call you that, I could have just called you a liberal and it would have been just as good of an insult. I pity you.
Using someone’s political differences than yours as an “insult”, you coward. So scared of people who are different than you that you label that difference as an insult. Sounds a lot like what you probably call black people.
Don’t call me a coward when you are afraid of COVID lmao
I get it, your really are a liberal. When you don’t have talking points you go after speech. Like always a poor winner but never a loser, am I right? Nobody is minimizing anything. There should be better processes in place seeing how women have weaponized it. But again, you can’t learn. Its not possible. You say I’m dumb but your not capable of having a civil conversation. Got a fresh college degree while your working at Wendy’s, waiting on Biden to cancel your debt. I like my grammerical issues. They keep you like you normally are. Pissy.
*you really are a liberal
*you’re working at Wendy’s
You’re just making yourself look dumber and dumber. Then saying you like looking dumb.
You’re absolutely minimzing women’s bodily autonomy. Don’t fake it. You want control over women’s bodies because you think they’re “weaponizing” HAVING TO CARRY AROUND A BABY THEY DON’T WANT. You’re a misogynist. Man up and admit it, you coward.
I’m not afraid of COVID. I haven’t been since my vax. I’m afraid of numbskulls like you voting.
You’re assuredly a coward because you’re scared of my different opinion enough to think being liberal is a diss. Do you like being a little baby coward?
I could care less what they choose to do. It’s simple minded blind followers like yourself who make me sick. I bet when your wife says come you run to her hip.
Do you really think calling people cowards is gonna rile his feathers. I don’t know him but I can already tell that his skin and ability to endure normal everyday life is much higher than yours right. Not one part of you, scares us.
If you could care less what they choose to do with their fetus, then you are PRO-CHOICE! They should choose whether or not they keep a baby.
I’m a blind follower for respecting women, which you clearly don’t, then so be it.
He clearly is ruffled because he responded, the coward. Just like you. Scared of people different than you so you have to control them!
You really think I want to control you? Why? Next your gonna say I’m forcing labor from you. Sex is already out the way, what other victim cards you got? I wouldn’t ever want to control you or your speech but yet you feel the need to tell everyone how they should act or feel. When you actually realize the bad things you do that people don’t like maybe then you will grow. Maybe not.
You don’t want women to control whether or not they can be pregnant, so yes, you do in fact want to control people.
Upstanding women like that opinion and like that I say that. So that’s definitely not a “bad thing I do”
Gaslight lier. How is the government or I controlling if a women gets pregnant? Your just dumb bud. Your 10 ply thick. Your a few words that I’m not allowed to say. I’m sure I can say simp tho. Which is fine, but don’t act like it’s normal. There are grown males in here who don’t feel the need to bend over or need to bend over to get a women’s attention. I’m sure the women around you love that you say it, but they don’t love YOU. Like I said you can say whatever you want but I’ve been threw enough you aren’t getting under my skin. I respect everyone until they feel to control me. Which is what you want. I bet your salivating at the mouth for your Ministry of Truth huh.
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The government is absolutely controlling women when they force them to have a child after being r*ped. Do you see that? You like that they control women that much?
So sticking up for women makes me weak huh? Sure dude. Seems like you just hate women on some level.
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“your dumb bud” the ultimate proof you’re not smart enough to be taken seriously
Or are you just a Russian bot?
Again. You talk and repeat everything back as if it’s your original statement. Only dumb liberals speak about absolute proof even though you never have proof to back up your crap. If I knew you in real life you would try to have me swatted because that’s just the crappy person you are. You can’t discuss anything so you ignore and start foaming from the mouth and the ears. Your Trump Derangment is showing. Simps gonna simps and act like they are alphas. Nice to see her boyfriend allowed you some time to vent your frustrations on here.
And here comes the Russian Collusion, coming up next.
Here you go again trying to insult me rather than address the points that you can’t refute, instead of owning up to your wrongness like a non-caveman.
If only your mother had made the choice Roe v. Wade granted here and you weren’t around! We’d all be better off.
I’m not trying to insult you but the jokes write themselves. You’ve made no points. Calling you a lier isn’t an insult. It’s your title because your spreading lies, hence Lier. My Wrongness? You can’t change your statement. You just keep repeating the same thing like a clock. I can read you like a book. You don’t change, even your words don’t change. You sit in your car or house by yourself and you practice arguing because you know your no good at in a pinch. So you practice. Now you wish I wasn’t around. I still respect your right to say it but your only proving how cold and 1 sided you are. You’d be better off huh? Why is my existence so harmful to you that you wish I wasn’t here? Because I don’t agree with you on your point?
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Your existence is harmful not to me, but to women. Because you don’t believe they have a right to their bodies.
Ok ooops sorry. Liar. Better? Where did I say I don’t believe in a women’s right to choose? I said I was tired of children being held captive and used against fathers who can’t do anything about it. I’m not saying guys don’t do it to but the stats on this are pretty clear. I should know because it has happened to me when I was a child. You can’t say truths now. That’s what upsets you. Even though something is true and correct you think it’s so bad you label it racist or sexiest or whatever trigger word you pick for that day. I respect you and whatever choice you make. Same as for any women but you keep preaching about women’s rights, what about guys rights? A women can force a man to pay for 18 years or terminate his offspring because she got angry at him one night? Where is the guys rights? Serious question, what rights does the guy have from the point of conception?
So you believe that women should have a choice to have an abortion? I’ve convinced you?
Lmao “what about guys rights” indeed, a favorite incel topic.
Stats? On what exactly?
Guys don’t carry the baby, so they don’t have the final call. Do you understand now?
Calm down honey. Once the dems lose this next election then abortion won’t even be a debate any more. Loser.
The final call? Damn you sound dead inside. Heartless a little. You boiled down murdering your offspring as the final call. Had to look up the incel, haven’t heard it before. Too funny. Here I was assuming I was arguing with a male. I’m now pretty sure your a female. That’s why your so inbattled… what color is your hair? I bet your a teacher. Thats why your harping on grammatical errors so much. You have a tiny portion of power and your using it to poison the youth. Could be wrong but I doubt it. And you skipped so many of my points you really have no leg to stand on.
@dosnt like cubs. I’m inclined to disagree, if that happens you will become a master debater
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Like all the points you skipped just to insult me?
Spellcheck your posts so you don’t look so dumb. Either way, you clearly hate women.
Abortion will still be legal in a lot of places, sorry boyo
I’m sorry for you, because in most places it will be illegal as it should be. If we make abortion legal, we might as well make murder legal
Lmao how can you murder something that isn’t alive?
@richt- do you have no boundaries?? You completely crossed the line, indicating DWB should never be born. I know people like you who look for attention but that’s just not cool man. Go back to your Elizabeth Warren rallies and 50 shades of gray book club meetings.
Oh ok so making women have babies after being r*ped doesn’t cross the line. Keep moving those goalposts bud.
No, it doesn’t. Wanna cry?
Someone’s having a rough day 🙂
Gotcha Trevor! How’s it going for you with your appeal?
In all seriousness, you have no leg to stand on to say someone crossed the line if you think people who are r*ped shouldn’t have a say in their pregnancy. Something tells me you don’t know anyone who’s ever been sexually assaulted or you have no women in your life you love.
No, considering it only ever ends up in your palm anyway.
Haha keep dreaming. Bye bye buddy hope you find your way in life
Better there than elsewhere, it can wash off instead of potentially creating another idiot like you.
Your brain washed. Such a good sjw you are. You keep taking my statements and using them as yours because you have no actual points. Only feelings.
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Again, too thick to realize that taking your statements and refuting them is not using them as mine. So you hurl some more lame insults because that’s all your tiny inbred brain is capable of.
Your inbred DNA, so it certainly would create another idiot.
Polish Hammer doesn’t understand how babies are made! What a shocker! Ask mommy and daddy to explain it to you.
didn’t expect a MLBTR/Joe Rogan subreddit comment section crossover
hope everyone from cleveland recovers so they can be full strength on their way to the basement
This has been going on for years. The MLBTR Proud Boys love to glom onto posts about ANYTHING that’s related to COVID as well as stuff about the Cleveland team changing their name. This is a double-dipper for the incels.
If you don’t like this site, @richt, leave. Nobody will miss you, so just go ahead. We don’t want you here
Why are you still here? You like being dunked on?
Dunked on by who? The 5 foot 5 forty eight year old WNBA equal pay sympathizer who is trying to figure out which bathroom to use??
Oh no, how terrible that women should be given equal pay to men! The libs are trying to kill us incel whites!!!!1!1
What does it say about you that you’re being dunked on by such a character, if that even was me? It says that you’re some tiny limpdick who wishes he could blow Tucker Carlson.
Show me the attendance and concession sales for WNBA games compared to NBA games. Ever found a WNBA fan? HA. Women and men are both beautiful, but different. There is a reason NBA completely destroys WNBA in competition, sales and overall popularity.
Yup, I know some WNBA fans. The billionaire owners of these teams can afford to pay them even 10% of what the average NBA player makes ($10m ish) but they don’t. The HIGHEST paid WNBA players make $230k.
That’s not how it works….. these billionaires are not putting all their money into these teams. The teams must generate the money in order to provide contracts, but the teams do not generate enough money to pay these players AS MUCH as NBA players.
How do you know how it works? Do you have access to their books?
I acknowledge that WNBA teams can’t pay their players the same way as NBA teams because the financial situations are different. But should a woman who does the same job as a man make .005% of their salary, which is the pay gap between a top tier NBA player and a top tier WNBA player?
Either reduce one or raise the other.
Why do you have to make the pay equal? Especially when it’s not attainable?
Listen man, I don’t want to waste my time arguing with you. I don’t know you as a person, and we can agree to disagree. Just understand that just because you have an opinion, doesn’t mean it is right or that other people will share that opinion. Nothing personal
I didn’t say equal. You can still address the pay gap, though.
Umm… you said sarcastically: “oh no, how terrible that equal pay should be given to women.” So yes, you DID in fact say that women should get equal pay. Sorry man, debating just might not be your thing.
I didn’t say women who play in the WNBA, idiot. What I was doing was making fun of you for being pissed off that some women want equal pay, like the misogynist you are.
For other jobs? Absolutely. Do you disagree?
While you type away in your moms basement…maaaaaaa, the meatloaf!!!
At least that guy gets laid, unlike you! How’s your governor kidnapping plot going?
Boy what a great response from the penis, I mean peanut gallery…
You’re my boy, Blue!
Wow! Chicago finally gets a break from a generally cool and damp spring with this week’s unusually warm summer weather and they lose a game because the Guardians failed to practice proper guidelines. There has been an uptick in players going on the COVID related IL the past few weeks, along with coaches but nothing that has resulted in postponements. Considering the generally higher infection rates hitting the country now as a result of relaxed or abolished mandates, this is hardly surprising.
Rates would plummet to a record low if we stopped testing everyone that had a mild symptom.
Using that logic if you don’t count the jelly beans in a jar the total is zero
@Cat But what does a positive test do exactly on someone with little to no symptoms? Does it negate the spread? Does it allow you access to a cure? The only think it really seems to accomplish is that a gives a person the opportunity to post on social media that they’ve test positive for Covid and ask for thoughts and prayers for their runny nose.
If you are positive, you can SPREAD the disease. 300 people will die of COVID today. Do you want to be the one that gives it to them because you don’t want to test?
@Pads – By the time I actually test, haven’t I already spread it? I sure hope people aren’t testing hourly/daily.
What a pathetic excuse. Goodbye. I have no time in my life for people like you.
It kinda seems like you do.
@Jim. He blocked me. I’m not trying to insult but it’s a legit question. Apparently he didn’t care to answer it.
Real patriots know it’s un-American to count things. Votes, covid cases, jelly beans, taxes, doesnt matter. Math is for the libterds.
Hard to count when the boxes are still being unpacked..
Counting ballots isn’t the same thing as counting votes.
It’s been almost two years, get over it. The Orange Dictator lost.
2000 mules is a great movie.
You drank the koolaid and spent money on that pile of garbage that’s roundly being refuted by everyone? Why am I not surprised.
politifact.com/article/2022/may/04/faulty-premise-…
@richt, you’ve got nothing to argue with. 75% of people here agree on the same, logical thing and you are carrying on about god knows what. (Sorry I said God if that’s a trigger for you libterd.) just shut up and keep your opinions to yourself, they aren’t valued (or right)
The sane logical thing is that Trump won the election? Lmao you’re sleeping too much on your mypillow. Get over it.
“just shut up and keep your opinions to yourself” I thought you altright incels were all about free speech? You’re trying to censor me now? Fail fail fail fail and fail some more!
Also God doesn’t exist.
I know joe Biden won the election. That’s old news. So is COVID. Move on buddy
Is it old news to the 68k people who got it yesterday too? Are they living in the past buddy?
And 68k of them will survive it. Your acting like all 68k are gonna pass away. Nobody wants to peddle it bud. Your living room, must be full, slap full of your tears. Well all I hear is crying. Thankfully I don’t know you and can’t hear your sad screech voice.
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Thankfully many will survive because of vaccines. But while that many people are getting it, it’s definitley not “over.” It’s not polio.
I mean, it’s your choice to not get over COVID. Everyone else is moving on, but, hey, if you want to continue with 6 masks and 12 vaccines, go for it! Just don’t think everyone else is dumb enough to do so aswell
Do you understand the difference between getting OVER it and the pandemic being OVER? I was over it the minute I got my second vaccine. You’re calling me dumb for taking precautions. Which does not equal being scared. If I wear a seatbelt, am I scared of driving? Am I dumb?
See you compare car crashes and covid. Your over it huh. Why do they say that over 90% in hospitals with covid have atleast 1 shot? Who has to come out and tell you covid is over for you to believe it? Or that it isn’t as deadly as you make it to be.
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Do you understand how many fewer people get hospitalized now than before vaccines? Or do you just see durrrr 90% big number I’ll say it!
COVID is a part of life. It’s not polio. Polio is over.
Your right. Covid is apart of life. So move on with it.
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Moving on doesn’t mean saying it’s over.
Why do I still hear about hospitals being full. With people that have atleast 1 shot. But it seems the actual speaders are the ones who keep getting boosted. Why aren’t you yelling at these super spreader events also know as “baseball games”. Cause you know that’s crap, or atleast that people won’t listen to it.
Cry cry cry cry I’m a victim. That’s all I’m reading. I see other letters but they still come out the same.
Where are you hearing that? Because the hospitals are full of unvaccinated, who also makes up the vast majority of deaths.
The vaxxed are not the ones spreading: cnbc.com/2022/01/31/the-new-omicron-subvariant-is-…
I don’t know why you keep thinking I’m saying I’m a victim. I’m saying you’re too dumb to actually argue points so you just insult people like a caveman.
Most cavemen can follow along a conversation better than you and intellectually contribute to the conversation. You know how I know your a liberal. You supply a CNBC link. Come on. Trash propaganda machines. You tell people to not listen to the news but the one and only piece you’ve supplied is the main stream. Your a hypocrite in real life. How hard is it to keep all the lies in your head straight?
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The study is from the University of Copenhagen. In Denmark. Are they a part of the lib trash propaganda machine too?
Something tells me you only associate with other cavemen like yourself.
Something tells me that people don’t want to associate with you.
Sorry people like you with the TDS seem to be having a harder time getting over it. Congrats on Mr. Magoo building unity and his Build Back Better program…we’ve never been closer or economically prosperous than now…
Maybe because the GOP won’t let anything pass because they just see “durrr durrr a liberal made this legislating let’s prevent it even though it might actually help someone”
Ahahahahahahaha wow
There you go, when we’re not blaming Putin for fuel costs and the crippling inflation we’ll blame it on the GOP. Build Back Better, so grateful Joe is unifying like he’s promised what an utter disgrace of an administration and a laughingstock across the globe.
The fuel prices aren’t the GOP’s fault, not at all. Nevr said that.
Meanwhile the GOP won’t even consider any legislation by a Democrat because they’re too weak to admit that someone else might have a good idea.
The inflation stemmed from the stimulus packages under the Orange regime, where the GOP-led Senate approved them. They get blame for sure.
The stimulus packages forced upon him by the DemocRATS and their free money giveaway program. He had no choice but to push them through.
Blaming the left instead of taking responsibility for the clusterf**k the GOP puts the nation in every time they win the presidency, typical! Snowflakes like you can’t deal with being wrong. Go to your safespace on 4chan and cry into your Mountain Dew. You probably weren’t alive in 2004–2008 so I get it.
The Curse of Chief Wahoo strikes again.
Hopefully all are ok and they’re able to play outside of today’s game without too many players, if any, hitting the IL. Don’t like seeing games and divisions determined by which team had more or fewer Covid cases.
The silver lining here is that as division rivals they have plenty of meetings already on the schedule. Nobody loves to play a double header, but this could be a lot worse if it was an inter league series or something.
Hopefully everyone is back soon and this is a minor bump in the road.
The moderator needs to close comments on this issue.
For sake of argument, why? Don’t read what you don’t want to. It’s like beating the shift with an oppo slash: take what you wish. I enjoy these posts because it exposes the blockable idjots that show up and don’t talk ball. Have a great day, sir or ma’am!
Or you could just not read them if you’re so easily offended. Censorship is never the right answer.
I’ve had COVID. Twice, actually, as I’ve been high-risk for multiple reasons. I wouldn’t wish this virus on my worst enemy. It sure as heck isn’t some darn cold. And I’m not going to go around telling others how to prevent and not prevent themselves from getting it. This kills people. Be well, all.
What a joke
I’m from Florida… and I didn’t know Covid was still even a thing, I apologize
The left desperately wants it to be a thing still. I dont understand why but they love COVID and the mandates with it. Some states are having trouble relinquish total control over people now that theyve had their taste of it.
Those jerks on the left wanting people not to die from COVID, the audacity!
Well ma’am, the left also likes to profess “their body their choice”
I’d like you to explain what benefit you believe accrues to officials who mandate Covid protocols, and how this equates to “total control” over you (or anybody), and how this differs essentially from laws mandating speed limits, seat belts, functioning headlights and taillights, driver’s licenses, auto insurance, noise limits in the vicinity of hospitals, stop signs, traffic lights, driving sobriety laws, lawn watering restrictions in drought areas, burning restrictions in dry weather, hazardous waste restrictions, controlled substance laws that prevent the street sale of dangerous drugs, and laws against selling cigarettes to minors.
And if you don’t protest those laws as violations of “liberty,” why not, Otto?
Because Fink, Tucker Carlson didn’t tell him to.
No, seriously — I’d like to hear his explanation.
“What is the COVID-19 situation like in Florida?
“In the past seven days, the state has added 5,299 cases and 15 deaths per day, on average, according to Miami Herald calculations of data published by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.”
bit.ly/3FBysKF
I expect it feels like a real thing to the relatives of the 15 dying of it per day. Maybe direct your apologies to them.
The Cardinals the other day stated they weren’t sure if the team and support personnel were all vaccinated. lol
My guess is it’s closer to 75% and no getting the vaccine was never going to fully guarantee you wouldn’t get COVID. Just like wearing a condom isn’t a full proof guarantee from getting some STD or knocking some broad up.
This was said from the beginning. People just didn’t read the fine print, or listened to someone who didn’t read the fine print.
Ah the fine print, 13 pages of serious side effects of a vaccine forced upon them. So much for “my body my choice”…
It’s not even fine, doctors knew it and were saying it for you so you didn’t have to read, not like you could be bothered to read. Because reading isn’t patriotic, just like math and facts.
Is that you, Mickey Spillane?
“I didn’t want to knock the broad up, but I never could resist a tomato with nice gams.”
Reading this while in quarantine after landing in Japan…..fully vaccinated and negative test before I left. UGH!
Whatcha doing in Japan, Mr. Bonds?
I am positive that everyone who has posted on here has changed everyone else’s mind to reflect their take on this subject.
Congratulations! We can all go about our “normal” daily lives now and forget this ever happened
I don’t care if I change the incels’ minds. I just love dunking on them and reading everyone else do it too.
May I suggest that antagonizing each other is counterproductive, whether our views are right or wrong?
They’re quite open about it on Russian TV — the Kremlin is engaged in a cyber program to divide the U.S. into warring factions, and talking heads on their TV networks gloat about it openly.
Here’s one op that worked like a charm:
texastribune.org/2017/11/01/russian-facebook-page-…
This isn’t new. The Russians have been at this tactic since the early days of the Soviet Union. They know better than a lot of Americans what Patrick Henry meant when he said in his last speech: “Let us trust God, and our better judgment to set us right hereafter. United we stand, divided we fall. Let us not split into factions which must destroy that union upon which our existence hangs.” He collapsed at the end of his speech and died two months later.
Divided we fall. This is how they’ve been trying to destroy us.
I don’t get into these discussions to call people names or belittle them. (Okay, sometimes my sense of humor can be a bit . . . shall we say, tart?) I just reflexively react to disinformation and try to point it out when I see it. The hope is that at least some people won’t be so married to their positions that they’ll consider the information.
I don’t kid myself that it’ll get through to everybody. I realize a lot of my fellow Americans have been battered relentlessly with disinformation for years and they’ve been convinced to distrust anything else. But whose fault is that? I think the bulk of the blame belongs to the liars who pump that stuff out.
If somebody gets burned by a con man, I suppose you can react by mocking the victim for being a sucker. But if I hear of some poor schmo getting his bank account plundered by scammers, I feel badly for him and detest the jerks who victimized him. Maybe that’s too idealistic, but I’d rather be an idealist than a cynic. And I sure don’t want to help the Russians destroy my country. My people have been here since it was a British colony and many have bled to preserve it. I don’t want to betray my ancestors and side with an enemy.
This is exactly how I feel. I’m cool with leaving the comments open because I don’t mind people expressing themselves, but it’s almost pointless because no one is getting through to anyone else. So if everyone is just yelling at a brick wall then what’s the point lol
It lets us all know who the dumbest of the dumb and the most vile of the vile are so we can mute them. It serves a useful purpose.
Pads Fan
Like your parents?
Being the biggest Pads Fan of them all, Mrs. MaxiPads Fan is also leading the league in stupid and vile takes.
Stop talking about what you keep in your undies Polish, no one wants to hear that.
Sure thing richtard.
Stop Polish Hammering your little knob and learn to talk to women.
Richard is so witty…
The unvaccinated can keep dying and killing their unvaccinated family and friends.
And when they die somehow they end up voting Blue posthumously, sometimes even 2 or 3 times, which led to 81,000,000+ votes for Mr. Magoo…
Stop listening to My Pillow guy’s tin foil hat theories, you’re being had. Your tiny brain can’t figure it out, though.
I bet Tim is reading through these comments thinking “why did I open comments on this to these morons?”
Probably, but I would rather read through them than be censored.
So will the Yankee-White Sox game be postponed tomorrow?
richt = paid liberal troll
Where’s my damn money for destroying the dumb incels?
You mispelled “truth” as liberal. You’re so scared of the truth, coward.
Dude, you so insecure it’s kind of funny
Pot calls kettle black!
Truth and liberal don’t even belong in the same paragraph.
Oh yes because Trump always told the truth
TDS at its finest…
Richtard voted for Sleepy Joe…twice
Even if I did, get over it your orange manbaby lost
Yes, because 81,000,000+ voted for the brain dead clown in office now. Build Back Better! Woohoo!
Your party of cowards are preventing his administration and party from doing so. They could help people but nope, the GOP actively tries not to help people. Such nobility!
The party of science has the White House, House and Senate, yet are preventing Sleepy Joe from getting things done and are blaming everyone else for the destruction of the economy and everything else while they keep send BILLIONS to get somebody else squared away. OK.
Lmao the GOP controlled two of those when the stimuli were passed and started the inflation. I get it though, you were only 12 when that was going down and your parents just let you start using 4chan and hentai this year, so you didn’t know.
Thank God MLBTR got over their fear of letting speak their minds.
Sports, politics, abortion let the topics and comments fly.
No Great Pumpkin though, man. Let’s stay away from that one.
That was fun. Let’s do it again. Soon.
So much amazing thought here. Hugely misinformed but amazing nonetheless.
Well, back to baseball. The Yankees stink.
Yup, they stank their way to another win today.
Standings?
We don’t gotta show you no standings!
We don’t need no stinking standings!
How y’doin’ today, whyhayzee? New York’s got the first and third teams in the overall standings. Good times in Flushing too, eh?
Careful with that axe, Eugene. 😉
And the senators are squashing the metropolitans. Sigh.
That’s baseball, Suzyn.
(The live tracks on “Ummagumma” were faves of mine.)
“Jupiter and Saturn, Oberon, Miranda and Titania
Neptune, Titan, stars can frighten.”
DSOM was the peak for me. The rhythm of Money prepped me for a dive into Dave Brubeck’s Time Out. Years later, I got to sit in with Joe Morello. My head almost exploded. Honestly, the sound of those records drew me (back) into music and now I’m a professional jazz bassist. But that time period where everything started to blend together was pretty cool for music.
bruh it’s 2022 can we stop with this comment section madness? if you people want to be insane, do it privately.
Eh, I see spill-over “discussions” like this on every corner of the interwebs. I’ve just accepted it as “the new normal” and carry on. Hope all is well with you DS, how are your Phils looking? Want a ‘pen piece in Lamet? We could use an OFer over here…
Humans embarrass me
Long live wilderness, griz, falcons and wolves.
Both Francona and Hale tested positive.
beaconjournal.com/story/sports/mlb/cleveland-guard…
Hope Tito will be ok.
Sure, after trashing a whole thread about Terry Franconia catching Covid with your idiotic banter, now you want to wish him well. GTFOH clown!
Of course, I have a brain and empathy, unlike a sad sack like you who has some dust bunnies upstairs and a limpdick downstairs.
What a surprise, you’re a misogynist! No wonder all women refuse to have any contact with you and you’re still a virginal incel.
What a surprise, the richtard making assumptions about people they’ve never met. Your contributions to this thread have been unparalleled, then again nobody else is as dumb and/or ignorant as you.
No assumption lmao, you’re anti-women’s choice. You hate women, it’s clear. No wonder none will touch you.
Thanks for the compliment about my unparalleled contributions, I know they’re awesome! But then you call the ketle black, pot. Like you know what the hell you’re talking about taking election news from My Pillow man lmao clown
Once again, a low IQ person making assumptions and hiding behind a computer screen. Absolute asshat.
Durrrrr I hate women and to hide it I’m going to say the other person is dumb
Aren’t you due back at the circus?
Are you a Cleveland fan or Chisox fan? Or just here to trash a thread with your nonsense. Let’s Go Brandon!
The ultimate coward slogan! So scared of Biden you can’t even say his name. Go back to your safe space, snowflake.
Baseball is such an interesting game, that is why I love reading comments here…sheesh guys let’s just let it go and talk about what we have in common, a game we all love.