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Brewers Sign Luke Voit To One-Year Deal

By Darragh McDonald | March 28, 2023 at 10:13pm CDT

MARCH 28: Voit signed a split deal that comes with a $2MM base salary for time spent in the majors, the Associated Press reports. Voit should reach five years of major league service a few days into the season, which would afford him the right to refuse an optional assignment to the minors at that point. The Excel Sports Management client would receive $500K apiece for reaching 250, 300, 350, 400, 450 and 500 plate appearances — potentially maxing the deal out at $5MM. The ’24 club option is valued at $12MM and doesn’t come with a buyout. He’d remain arbitration-eligible if Milwaukee declines the option.

MARCH 27: The Brewers announced to reporters, including Adam McCalvy of MLB.com, that they have signed first baseman Luke Voit to a one-year deal with a club option for 2024. The financial terms aren’t publicly known at this time. In a corresponding move, infielder Keston Hiura was designated for assignment. Additionally, infielder Abraham Toro was optioned to the minors and outfielder Sal Frelick was reassigned to minor league camp. The Brewers also announced that infielder Brice Turang has made the Opening Day roster.

Luke Voit | Vincent Carchietta-USA TODAY SportsVoit, 32, has previously been in camp with the Brewers on a minor league deal, though it afforded him the ability to opt-out and pursue opportunities elsewhere. Though he initially agreed to kick that decision down the road, he eventually triggered his opt-out and returned to the open market. However, the Brewers didn’t want him to get away and have now brought him back aboard with a major league deal and an option for 2024. Even if they turn that option down, they could still retain Voit via arbitration since he will still be shy of six years’ service time at the end of the season.

The slugger has previously been one of the most potent bats in the league but is coming off a couple of years that weren’t quite as strong. He actually led the majors in home runs in the shortened 2020 season, going over the fence 22 times. His .277/.338/.610 batting line that year amounted to a wRC+ of 153, indicating he was 53% better than the league average hitter. But in 2021, he dealt with knee injuries for much of the year and struggled when he wasn’t on the IL. The Yanks eventually supplanted him at first by acquiring Anthony Rizzo, trading Voit to the Padres going into 2022.

Voit stayed healthy enough to get into 135 game last year, eventually hitting 22 home runs, but with lesser results overall. He struck out in 31.5% of his plate appearances and hit .226/.308/.402 for a wRC+ of 102. That included a midseason trade to the Nationals in the Juan Soto deal, after Eric Hosmer used his limited no-trade clause to take himself out of it. The Nats could have kept him around via arbitration, with MLBTR contributor Matt Swartz projecting an $8.2MM salary, though they non-tendered him instead.

The Brewers have a left-handed hitter at first base in Rowdy Tellez and their outfield/designated hitter mix contains further lefties in Christian Yelich, Jesse Winker and Garrett Mitchell. Voit’s right-handed bat would seem at first glance to make a good fit for that group in a platoon role, though he actually has modest reverse splits in his career. He’s hit .262/.347/.491 against righties in his career for a 129 wRC+. Against southpaws, he’s hit .236/.329/.439, for a 110 wRC+, still above average but less than his work against righties. However he’s deployed, he’ll look to get back on track with his new club after a couple of trying seasons.

As for Hiura, 26, he made a big splash with his debut in 2019, hitting 19 home runs in just 84 games. He’s continued to hit for power in the seasons since but with mounting strikeout issues that have diminished his overall production. Last year, he hit 14 homers in just 80 games but was also punched out at a 41.7% rate. MLBTR’s Steve Adams recently took a detailed look of the Hiura situation, which put the club in an awkward spot because he no longer has options. A few days ago, Hiura was informed that he would not be making the roster.

The Brewers will now have a week to either trade Hiura or try to pass him through waivers. Despite his struggles, it seems possible that another team would be willing to give him a shot based on his huge power output. That could perhaps be a team that isn’t expecting to be competitive this year, though it’s also possible that injuries could create opportunities elsewhere. In the event that Hiura clears waivers, he would be able to reject an outright assignment, though it’s possible he accepts. Players with between three and five years of service time can reject outright assignments but they have to forfeit their salary. Hiura qualified for arbitration for the first time this offseason and agreed to a $2.2MM salary, meaning he’d have to leave that on the table to become a free agent.

As for Turang, 23, he’s one of the club’s top prospects. Selected in the first round of the 2018 draft, he spent last year in Triple-A. He hit 13 home runs and stole 34 bases, hitting .286/.360/.412 for a wRC+ of 108. Though he’s mostly been a shortstop in his time in the minors, he figures to take over the second base job in Milwaukee next to Willy Adames. Turang is already on the 40-man roster so a corresponding move won’t be necessary.

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  1. Mystery13

    2 years ago

    Wowza

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    • bronxmac77

      2 years ago

      Yowza

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  2. hiflew

    2 years ago

    Um OK.

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  3. Frahm_

    2 years ago

    Wow

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  4. Dbacks44

    2 years ago

    Not sure why this guy is not liked more. Dude hit 22 hrs in 59 games. If he plays alot he will hit 35 easy.

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    • BigFred

      2 years ago

      If you’re referring to Voit, I think that was in 135 games.

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      • Jm207* 2

        2 years ago

        He’s taking about 2020

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        • sheagoodbye

          2 years ago

          Right, the 2020 that was 3 years ago.

          i don’t think he’s that same guy anymore after all the injuries and now in his early 30s. Still a solid signing though, especially is further distance from those injuries might give him a little bit of a lift.

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      • stubby66

        2 years ago

        I will tell you why because he jogs down to first on every grounder just like Tellez, Taylor, McCutchen Wong and Urias does and tired of watching it. The Brewers need to start fining these guys every time they do it. It’s a bad habit and with the Brewers having all these young guys coming up they don’t need them to get that in their heads. I guarantee if this team wouldn’t have played with a bunch of these kinda guys last year they would have made the playoffs.

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        • Gomez Toth

          2 years ago

          That reminds me – Robinson Cano is very available.

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        • jbeerj

          2 years ago

          Hot taek

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        • wtfCheeseheadChuck

          2 years ago

          I was sitting front row right by the camera well on the first base side a few years ago in Milwaukee, it was actually the game Vogelbach hit the walkoff grand slam against the cardinals…. At any rate up until that moment that game was so frustrating…. Watching that fat ass Tellez gimp down the line…. My heckling illicited one heck of a nasty glance from him so it’s clear it’s been a thing with him for a long time, I’m surprised Craig puts up with that crap, do these “professionals” have no respect for the game they get to play, maybe they’d rather be in the desert dodging bullets, bet that’d get their asses to move….

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        • jbeerj

          2 years ago

          That never happened, did it Homer?

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        • GmanGoon

          2 years ago

          Chuck

          Best username. Ever! Brilliant.

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        • Melchez17

          2 years ago

          Good thing it wasn’t Lebron… you would have been escorted out of the stadium.

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        • gbs42

          2 years ago

          Maybe the nasty glare was because someone was being a heckling jerk. It’s another possibility…

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        • NINCOMPOOP

          2 years ago

          Bc professionals know once you hit the professional level it’s no longer about being professional. It’s a TV show, but I did always enjoy watching Johnny Damon run out every at-bat

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        • earmbrister

          2 years ago

          Wrong sport sport

          Wrong person, but apparently you have issues with him. Or how society is unfair to you.

          Reply
        • GmanGoon

          2 years ago

          Chuck.

          What’s your take on the Aaron Rodgers debacle?

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        • GASoxFan

          2 years ago

          Gman…. Chuck IS Aaron Rodgers!

          Wait, here me out.

          What’s a cheesehead? A Packers horde member right? A fan?

          OK, OK. So, next we’ve got Chuck. As in Woodchuck.

          Where does a wood chuck live when not at work foraging? UNDERGROUND!

          So, when you go underground, you’re hiding in the dark right? RIGHT?

          Well, Rodgers was a career Packer and cheered the team on when hes sidelined right? Like a fan? Well, Rodgers finished his work for the season, and where did he go? In the DARK for several days! Just like the woodchuck going underground? See? SEE?

          Chuck IS Rodgers! This is a Finkel IS Einhorn moment

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        • GmanGoon

          2 years ago

          GASox…

          That is absolutely brilliant. The bestest smarterest most coolest comment ever. Love it.

          And being Canadian, the Jim Carrey reference just makes it perfect.

          Bravo!!

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        • wtfCheeseheadChuck

          2 years ago

          The MLB YouTube account posted the Vogelbach at bat/postgame celebrations and 40sec in you can see my gf and I sitting right behind the cameraman who “tips” his red cap, I’m in my INFOWARS shirt and it’s hard to see but if you’re familiar with that logo it’s obvious and not sure why you’d think somebody would make that up for a lame comment on a lame article comment section, it’s reality and it’s what happened, actually while heckling Tellez I told him “Pablo (utility man Pablo Reyes) would happily take his job/run to first base” and pablos next at bat he actually hit a home run, it was also Pablo’s birthday that day, sept 5th, is that enough confirmation for u? Instead of questioning everybody else’s fun/cool life experiences get yourself a ticket and I’d bet you’ll end up having your own “cool” experiences and then when u hear others tell their stories they won’t seem so far fetched cause reality offers all kinds of these experiences literally EVERY SINGLE DAY….

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        • jbeerj

          2 years ago

          Stopped reading at INFOWARS shirt…

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    • stan lee the manly

      2 years ago

      Because he hasn’t been able to hit since 2020

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    • JoeBrady

      2 years ago

      Overall, Voit had a .710 OPS. That’s weak for a DH.

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    • Mr. E Team

      2 years ago

      Career he ha 95 HRs over 1612 ABs. That’s around 17 hrs/ab which is at Adam Duvall , Joc Peterson, Bryce Harper levels. He doesn’t have enough ABs to qualify for an all time ranking though.

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      • eddiemathews

        2 years ago

        17 HRs/AB is rather impressive. What a bargain!

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        • Hammerin' Hank

          2 years ago

          Even the great Eddie Mathews couldn’t do that!

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        • Mr. E Team

          2 years ago

          Haha. Matthews never hit more than one homer in an AB

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    • Jarred Kelenic's Beer Can

      2 years ago

      He’s made of glass.

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    • Rsox

      2 years ago

      Injuries is why. Let’s see him put up the kind of numbers those 2020 numbers projected out to over the course of a full season and teams would probably regard him more

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    • Deadguy

      2 years ago

      Voit is made of glass… no durability… that’s why he’s not liked, he will give you 20 homeruns max and about 40-60 RBI with almost no doubles or singles… he’s a true outcome player who doesn’t walk

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    • GASoxFan

      2 years ago

      The 2020 season isn’t fair to point to, for anyone, because of how unique the season was. I don’t just mean small sample vs grind where you may be cherry picking a streak on a streaky player. I mean the unequal prep times to get ready, just like you don’t give a 10 year deal off a ST set of numbers, you don’t project a guy off 2020.

      Pressure dynamics changed without fans. Aforementioned prep times made pitching different. Future HOFers played like AAAA guys. Journeymen looked like all stars. Some guys opted out altogether, or, missed time from covid protocols throwing off their timing and performance.

      2020 happened, but, for discussing abilities and performance should be asterisked like a 2017 WS title, if not ignored entirely.

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  5. kripes-brewers

    2 years ago

    That should mean Weimer makes the club now. Excited to see what he and Mitchell can do out there. Voit should give us that offensive jolt you need at the opportune moment. I just hope enough guys can get on base to put crooked numbers up when it happens.

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    • minor league guy

      2 years ago

      i imagine turang being on the team means weimer heads to the minors… the bench will consist of caratini, brosseau, owen miller and Turang with Brian Anderson seeing time in RF

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      • kripes-brewers

        2 years ago

        Urias starts at 2nd, Anderson at 3B, Turang starts the year in AAA.

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        • Bchsom16

          2 years ago

          Article says Turang made Opening Day roster…

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        • pdxbrewcrew

          2 years ago

          Anderson in RF, Urias at 3B, Turang at 2B. They aren’t going to put Turnag on the roster to have him be a bench player.

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        • kripes-brewers

          2 years ago

          My bad! Just saw that updated!

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        • stubby66

          2 years ago

          Honestly I think without the shift were going to see Urias defensive shortcomings.

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        • minor league guy

          2 years ago

          not if hes playing 2B…

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        • Hammerin' Hank

          2 years ago

          Good to see at least one of the prospects making the team.

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        • Jarred Kelenic's Beer Can

          2 years ago

          Do you think people in the mlbtraderumors.com comments sections can read?

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        • roob

          2 years ago

          They most definitely can read! They just lack reading endurance. They start to get tired after the first sentence. Then, slow down and eventually stop after that long first paragraph.

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        • jbeerj

          2 years ago

          Wicho seems like a good guy, but he’ll be the worst defensive 3B we’ve had since Juan Francisco.

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        • bronxmac77

          2 years ago

          I can’t.

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        • bronxmac77

          2 years ago

          I read slowly. Metaphorically ‘jogging down the line’.
          I listen for wiseass hecklers, too.

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  6. Sunday Lasagna

    2 years ago

    Good for Luke! He has a 30 HR 120 OPS+ in him. The Brew Crew just needs to help him make it happen.

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  7. Mikenmn

    2 years ago

    Inevitable….and might actually work out.

    Reply
  8. GmanGoon

    2 years ago

    Marlins_Fan_1

    Why did you change your username again?
    You were: Marlins_Fan_2023 before.

    Now it’s Marlins_Fan_1

    But you’re still making me chuckle and others too perhaps.

    Bravo. A very much appreciated service.

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    • Longtimecoming

      2 years ago

      “Chuckle” – that wasn’t my first choice but we are on the same page here!

      I’m still waiting for him to give me power ball numbers since he can see the future.

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      • GmanGoon

        2 years ago

        Longtimecoming

        Laughing out loud. Brilliant!!

        I remember that post!

        Mookie stolen bases vs attempts and the like wasn’t it?

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      • Marlins_Fan

        2 years ago

        Among others, yes. Also Cedric Mullins 30 out of 38 in 2021.

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      • GmanGoon

        2 years ago

        Brilliant!! I’m laughing again.

        I see why you change peoples lives just by meeting them now. Laughter is a powerful thing, it makes the World a better place.

        Well done!

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    • Marlins_Fan

      2 years ago

      I’m out of here, done being attacked on this site. No more contributions, done with this

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      • GmanGoon

        2 years ago

        Please don’t go.

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      • Marlins_Fan

        2 years ago

        PS you’re welcome for the Bin-Laden raid, you ingrate.

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      • GmanGoon

        2 years ago

        Marlins_Fan_1

        If you’re implying you’re SF or former SF. Here’s a tip.

        Real operators never let that intel slip. The objective is complete the mission.

        Not get thanked.

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      • Marlins_Fan

        2 years ago

        The tax money I spend when I buy stuff partially went to support that raid- you’re welcome

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      • Latino Heat

        2 years ago

        We can only wish a troll like you would go back under your rock and never return to these comment sections. Please follow through and give us all an early holiday gift

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      • Marlins_Fan

        2 years ago

        I said I’m leaving.

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      • GmanGoon

        2 years ago

        Marlins_Fan_1

        Please stay. Please.

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      • Latino Heat

        2 years ago

        How many times do you have to seek attention and say you’re leaving? NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA HEY HEY HEY GOODBYE. Get lost troll

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      • YourDreamGM

        2 years ago

        Bye Felicia

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      • YourDreamGM

        2 years ago

        I always thought sales tax went to the state.

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      • pdxbrewcrew

        2 years ago

        Don’t be a dickbag and you won’t be attacked.

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      • Latino Heat

        2 years ago

        Don’t be… never mind MUTED haha I love that button

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      • bronxmac77

        2 years ago

        Well? BYE!

        – Curly Bill Bronxmac

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  9. sugoi51

    2 years ago

    Any thoughts on a possible MLB/minors landing spot for Huira or is he NPB/KBO bound?

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    • solaris602

      2 years ago

      I have to think the latter. Nobody needs a hitter with a 40% K rate at any level. He needs to go somewhere and learn to hit all over again.

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      • minor league guy

        2 years ago

        there will be plenty of teams interested in Hiura. i would be very surprised if he had to go play overseas.

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      • Wadz

        2 years ago

        I expect him to make the Nationals roster….

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        • GooseGoslinGuy

          2 years ago

          I say no. The Nats seem committed to their own special brand of homegrown + low-rent free agents. FWIW, they say they are stressing contact this year. A 40% K rate wouldn’t fit that scenario.

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    • hiflew

      2 years ago

      I think he will find his way to a rebuilding club as a stop gap to either rebuild his value or likely finish his MLB career Oakland makes sense as does Cincinnati.

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      • Hammerin' Hank

        2 years ago

        And you just know that Tampa could extract some good production from Hiura.

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      • This one belongs to the Reds

        2 years ago

        Cincinnati has too many infielders already. A guy striking out 40% of the time doesn’t appeal, otherwise they would have kept Moose.

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    • YourDreamGM

      2 years ago

      Pirates love former 1st round picks ranked prospects and have Brewers awful hitting coach and their manager is a awful hitting coach. They passed on Hassel Veen and drafted a similar player as Hiura.

      I think someone won’t be able to pass up his statcast bat. They will think they can out coach the Brewers and change his swing so pitchers can’t easily take advantage of him. Good luck.

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    • Jarred Kelenic's Beer Can

      2 years ago

      If Joey Gallo can still get an $11M contract, Hiura can latch onto a MLB team.

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      • Rsox

        2 years ago

        Gallo can launch 40 HR’s in a season. We have yet to see any evidence that Hiura can do the same.

        I don’t see a Major League landing spot for Hiura unless the Phillies really feel like they need a RH (barely)capable of playing 1B or the Twins decide they need a stopgap while Polanco and Kiriloff are on the IL

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        • bronxmac77

          2 years ago

          I’ll take the under on that 40 HR bet…

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    • KamKid

      2 years ago

      If no MLB team claims or trades for him, he might just accept the outright and take the $2.2m. I doubt he leaves that to pursue an NPB or KBO opportunity.

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  10. RyanD44

    2 years ago

    Frelick could very well be the best hitter in the organization – including the current MLB roster. If I had to bet on one guy to hit ..280 and post a .350 OBP or better, he’d be the guy.

    Yet, he was sent down to the minor leagues.

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    • minor league guy

      2 years ago

      service time manipulation aside, there’s not really a spot for him until Yelich moves out of LF. he will be up early and potentially often.

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    • JoeBrady

      2 years ago

      Meh. He had a 3/0 K/W in ST, with -0- HRs. He’s had a total of 189 ABs in AAA. He’s a good prospect, but it doesn’t feel like he is finished with his development time.

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  11. vacommish

    2 years ago

    Is Garrett Mitchell confirmed on the team and starting in CF?

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    • pdxbrewcrew

      2 years ago

      Looks that way.

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  12. enricopallazzo

    2 years ago

    Hot take!

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  13. JoeBrady

    2 years ago

    I’m wondering if the Brewers signed Voit knowing that the Phillies were interested. They could easily trade for Voit for a decent lottery ticket, and then cancel the DFA on Hiura.

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    • kripes-brewers

      2 years ago

      They signed him because Hiura can’t fix his swing. Fairly easy decision except that they shouldn’t have tenedered Hiura a contract to begin with. Hard to let go I guess. Now they paid Hiura and had to lay out a contract for Voit. It won’t be for all that much, but this team doesn’t have a whole lot to throw around to begin with. Hopefully they can find a trade partner for Hiura or they’ll have to pay both regardless.

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      • gbs42

        2 years ago

        “this team chooses not to spend much money to begin with” seems more accurate.

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    • Backup Catcher to the Backup Catcher

      2 years ago

      I’m a Phillies fan, and as soon as Hoskins went down, two readily available names popped into my head: Luke Voit and Eric Hosmer. Both could have been acquired cheaply, and IMHO, both would be an upgrade over Hall.

      With Harper, Stott, Marsh, Hall, Cave (DH) and Schwarber all being LH hitters, if given the choice, I’d have gone for Voit’s RH bat to add some balance to our line up.

      However, with Voit signing an MLB contract with the Brewers, it appears that horse has left the barn. At least for now.

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      • Brick House Coffee Tables Inc

        2 years ago

        You can still get Patrick Wisdom instead of Hosmer. It will probably cost a AA pitcher.

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      • GarryHarris

        2 years ago

        The Brewers stuck with Lorenzo Cain so long last season, it cost them a playoff spot. They will do the same with Jesse Winker, who sunk in Spring, before they give Sal Frelick a chance.

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  14. Sliderwitcheese

    2 years ago

    No one loves obese first basemen like the Brewers love obese first basemen.

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    • MarkieFresh

      2 years ago

      Luke? Trim muscle man. Google some Luke Voit no shirt photos.
      Chose baseball scholarship and four years of college ball over football scholarship offers at middle linebacker/fullback. Royals tried and failed to draft him him out of high school.

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      • Sliderwitcheese

        2 years ago

        Yeah, I’ll get right on that Luke Voit shirtless search. No thanks

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  15. WillH

    2 years ago

    After Tellez swung at everything thrown in the zip code of the plate at the WBC, Its not real surprising the Crew kept Voit over Hiura. They didn’t need both platoon sides doing that.

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    • Wadz

      2 years ago

      Got news.. Voit will do the same.

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  16. Melchez17

    2 years ago

    Is Brice Turang on the top 100 prospect list any more? I think he was last year. If so, Brewers could get an additional draft pick if he makes top 3 in rookie of the year.

    MLBTR only mentions this possibility when it pertains to Yankee prospects. Why is that? They missed it with the Orioles Gunnar and Grayson… Corbin Carol, Jordan Walker… Tristan Casas… but not Yankees, so does anyone really care?

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    • vacommish

      2 years ago

      Better shot that Garrett Mitchell finishes in the top 3.

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    • MarkieFresh

      2 years ago

      I care. I think it’s a good move in the right direction for labor relations and has some has competitiveness incentive.
      Shout out to Kris Bryant having the balls to be publicly salty.

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      • pdxbrewcrew

        2 years ago

        It’s an extremely tiny move in the right direction. It’s an easy choice between an extra draft pick or saving possibly tens of millions by having a third year at league minimum as opposed to a fourth year of arbitration.

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        • drasco036

          2 years ago

          Some one, you, doesn’t understand as much about rookie deals as they think. Long live the super 2!

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        • pdxbrewcrew

          2 years ago

          Was that directed towards me, drascoo?

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        • drasco036

          2 years ago

          Yes it was.

          If a player is held back for service time manipulation, they are pretty much assured super 2 status which means they are not getting an extra year at league minimum.

          Off point, an extra draft pick, and having a guy for 7 years is more valuable than holding onto a guy for one additional season at 10’s of millions of dollars. Granted the player is not assured a top 3 ROY finish.

          Whenever a player is held back fans immediately claim service time manipulation but that argument does not hold water. Service time has nothing to do with when you are called up, it’s based on how many games you are on the active roster.

          Walker and Volpe can easily still maintain their rookie status if their teams decide to send them down for roughly two weeks in the middle of the season.

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        • pdxbrewcrew

          2 years ago

          I don’t think you really understand how the Super Two status works.

          The entire point of holding back a player is to avoid Super Two status. A player with two full seasons is going to hit Super Two. A player with a year-and-a-half or less isn’t nearly as likely. Most of the time, the cutoff is after about a month-and-a-half of the season.

          Service time is based on days on the active roster, not games. And the less days on the active roster, the less likely that player will reach Super Two status.

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        • drasco036

          2 years ago

          Go look up super two status and get back to me so I don’t have to explain to you why you’re wrong.

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        • pdxbrewcrew

          2 years ago

          No, go ahead and explain why I’m wrong. This should be really interesting.

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        • drasco036

          2 years ago

          Do you want to start with the fact you don’t know how arbitration works? It’s THREE YEARS, not two years.

          Super two applies to the top 22 percent of players in service time that have two full years but less than three.

          Teams really cannot manipulate super two status because the date changes every year due to the amount of prospect called up and various service times.

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        • pdxbrewcrew

          2 years ago

          Teams can, and do, easily manipulate Super Two status. Since 2009, the date has been between 2.115 and 2.146.

          Yes, teams can’t figure out the exact date, but it’s not hard to come up with a rough estimate on what that date will be. Give me a couple of days to crunch the numbers and I can come up with a date that is within 5 days. Hell, just using the historical dates can let one come up with an estimated date range. Sometime in the second half of May. Call someone up at the beginning of June and they are highly unlikely to reach Super Two.

          The idea that teams can’t manipulate Super Two status is just wrong and asinine.

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  17. pdxbrewcrew

    2 years ago

    Contreras/Tellez/Turang/Urias/Adames/Yelich/Mitchell/Anderson/Winker as the main starters
    Brosseau/Miller/Voit/Caratini on the bench.
    Burnes/Woodruff/Peralta/Lauer/Miley as the rotation
    Williams/Bush/Milner/Strzelecki/Guerra/Payamps/Varland/B.Wilson in the bullpen.
    Ashby/Houser/Taylor open on DL

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  18. Milwaukee-2208

    2 years ago

    Some of these young kids coming up are really looking solid. Haven’t seen a group of young talented hitters like this since the Braun/Fielder/Weeks/Hardy days. Milwaukee has had some horrendous bats fail at the major league level recently. Hopefully this crop and can stay in the show and produce.

    Turang and Wiemer had tremendous springs, and I think most brewer fans are excited for those two. We have been hearing about Turang for years and years and finally happy to see what the kid can do. A full season of Garret Mitchell will be fun as well. He can fly and I’m betting he’s taking off every time he gets to first

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  19. 88dodgers

    2 years ago

    I believe turang will be a good player

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    • Milwaukee-2208

      2 years ago

      Love the approach from him. Always thinking opposite field. True old school hitting mentality

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  20. dankyank

    2 years ago

    The Brewers are opting for positional versatility. Rostering Turang and Anderson gives the team 3 potential starters at second, third and short.

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  21. greg7274

    2 years ago

    Hiura hits RHP like he should hit LHP… can’t hit fastballs up… 40% K rate.

    Surely MIL has had his vision looked at, right?

    It’s almost like his peripheral vision is sharper than what’s right in front of him.
    Like an astigmatism or something? At his age, I doubt a cataract is possible, but that does affect seeing things right in front of you.

    Just spitballing…

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    • AlBundysFanClubPresident

      2 years ago

      Is being incapable of laying off the high cheese really much different than swinging and missing at sliders in the dirt on a regular basis?

      Or Pedro Cerrano whiffing on curveballs?

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      • greg7274

        2 years ago

        Was this meant to reply to my comment?
        I’m not sure how it relates to what I wrote.

        I’m saying he may have so many Ks because he can’t track high heat, possibly because he can’t see it?

        If correcting his vision helps him hit high fastballs, who cares if he cant lay off them?

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        • AlBundysFanClubPresident

          2 years ago

          Yes, it was in response to you. As you’re suggesting he CAN’T see the high heat, I’m suggesting he can, but just can’t hit it. I mean, what’s he (or anyone else) going to do with a 95-100 mph pitch at shoulder height even if he does see and make contact?
          It’s also my understanding that a high fastball is kinda hard to catch up to, so maybe that’s the problem. He sees it fine, just doesn’t swing fast or early enough to make contact.

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    • drasco036

      2 years ago

      Everyone’s peripheral vision is better than looking straight ahead. Guess you never spent any time in the military.

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  22. DarkSide830

    2 years ago

    Finally a good take!

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  23. TrillionaireTeamOperator

    2 years ago

    I hope it’s relatively lucrative. I think Voit was just injured and he healed up fully. I said before I think it will be 1 year/$3M w/ a $1.5M buyout on a $6M option or something.

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  24. martras

    2 years ago

    Very surprising the Brewers are punting on Hiura and his wRC+ 115 last year, though perhaps it just means they’re smarter than the Twins were with Sano. Also, Hiura’s spring has been awful. .156/.229/.219 OPS .448. 8.6% BB, 42.9% K rate.

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    • AlBundysFanClubPresident

      2 years ago

      In addition to the second part you wrote, he also K’d over 40% of the time last year. I don’t particularly care what his wRC or xFLOW or zCAR were, it’s rather counterproductive to have that many AB’s end without at least putting the ball in play.

      Not to mention he’s not good on defense, anywhere.

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    • Milwaukee-2208

      2 years ago

      Huira has had countless opportunities with the Brewers. They gave him so many opportunities to get it together but couldn’t.

      This is not surprising at all. In fact, I thought he would be DFAd last season.

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    • drasco036

      2 years ago

      The Twins didn’t make a mistake with Sano, Sano had a season ending injury in his final year of his rookie deal so they released him.

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      • martras

        2 years ago

        The Twins made a mistake by extending Sano after his 2017 season. I would have DFA’d him by May last year.

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  25. Old York

    2 years ago

    Guy’s not gonna rake. Probably only a 2,200 OPS.

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  26. nosake

    2 years ago

    What happened to Toro? He was such a favored trade from the Astros to Mariners. Was it all just hype?

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  27. Mercenary.Freddie.Freeman

    2 years ago

    I figured the Phillies would’ve traded for Voit. I guess they really are rolling with Darick Hall and his 136 career mlb at bats for 1st base.

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  28. Ignorant Son-of-a-b

    2 years ago

    Poor Abe Toro, I was rooting for ya buddy.

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    • jbeerj

      2 years ago

      He’ll be up plenty in place of Brosseau, a nice guy that can’t hit.

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      • pdxbrewcrew

        2 years ago

        He hits more than Toro. Majors or Minors.

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  29. HalosHeavenJJ

    2 years ago

    He’ll keep the $2.2 million and accept the assignment. Otherwise he’s looking at a minor league deal.

    If he doesn’t break out this year, he’ll sign a minors deal in the offseason with a nicely padded bank account.

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  30. Backup Catcher to the Backup Catcher

    2 years ago

    I’m late to this party (Didn’t read the previous 100+ posts.), so I’ll apologize if what I write has already been mentioned.

    Hiura was always a good hitter until the past few seasons. I’m wondering if a swing change was ordered to get more launch angle and/or better exit velocity? My Phillies did the same thing with Scott Kingery, who they drafted in the second round because of his bat to ball skill at Arizona. The result? Nothing short of a disaster.

    Some team is gonna sign Hiura, and if they do, I believe he’ll be told to bag whatever changes were ordered or he implemented on his own and to go back to the hitter he was when he was so highly thought of to warrant a first round selection.

    Though not considered a good 2B defensively, I could see the Pirates swooping in and giving Hiura a shot after, say, 100-150 at bats at AAA. Could probably make the same case for a few other MLB teams who are not in a win-now mode.

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    • This one belongs to the Reds

      2 years ago

      The whole launch angle craze ruined a lot of ballplayers’ swings and a lot never recovered.

      Enough said.

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    • AlBundysFanClubPresident

      2 years ago

      You are late! The consensus is MKE encouraged him (forced, whatever) to sell out for the HR swing. It ruined him.

      My guess, for what it’s worth, is he’ll hit well in the minors (again), get brought up when there’s an injury, mash for a week (again) then struggle to make contact (again) and get DFA’d again (..again).

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    • CardsFan77

      2 years ago

      HIURA IS ALREADY BACK TO AAA

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  31. cheesemanforever

    2 years ago

    Anderson, Winker and Voit are all bounce back candidates but if any of them fails, there are a bunch of top prospects in AAA waiting their turn. Don’t be surprised to see Wiemer and Frelick soon.

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  32. Viveleempireevil

    2 years ago

    If Voit gives the Brews .255/25/85 and plays an occasional 1B…why not? He’s proven he can hit MLB pitching…a long way. Good for him and them.

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  33. Crew2011

    2 years ago

    We need a spot for Frelick sooo badly. A top of the order bat who gets on base. Too bad he doesn’t have the arm for RF. Counting the days until we can move Yelich out of LF, to either 1B or DH. He’s a liability out there.

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    • Viveleempireevil

      2 years ago

      Would you take Gleyber for Corbin Burnes straight up? Give you Adames and Gleyber as your middle infield. Not too shabby.

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      • Bchsom16

        2 years ago

        Top 3 pitcher, Cy young award winner for an above average 2B, seems fair…

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      • TheGreatBaseballMind

        2 years ago

        A very easy, “No.” for the Brewers. Love the sarcasm, Bchsom,16.

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        • Viveleempireevil

          2 years ago

          No worries. The Pirates and Cubs need a 2b.

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        • TheGreatBaseballMind

          2 years ago

          Neither of those two teams need a second baseman. Cubs have Hoerner and Pirates have Johnson and Gonzales in the pipeline.

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  34. TrillionaireTeamOperator

    2 years ago

    An extremely fair deal if the plate appearances max out and the option is exercised. A smart deal all around. Good for Voit.

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  35. CardsFan77

    2 years ago

    So I’m a Voit fan (always have been) I think it is a good signing but doesn’t this seem like a really weird way to structure a 1 year contract? He wouldn’t cost that much just outright so I’m confused I guess…I understand adding incentives even tho it seems like they added alot of them bit to be a straight 12 mil for next year with no club option seems strange

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    • Crew2011

      2 years ago

      Agreed that it is a weird contract. Voit was quoted that he was offered 5 mil to play elsewhere. Brewers being Brewers, matched it, but pieced it together lol. Voit must have really enjoyed his Spring with MKE. That club option is a lottery ticket for the Crew in case he rakes this season.

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