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Pitching Notes: Woodruff, Verlander, Wainwright

By Simon Hampton | April 15, 2023 at 9:39am CDT

Brewers starter Brandon Woodruff had an MRI on his right shoulder and remains shut down until doctors map out a path forward, manager Craig Counsell relayed to Todd Rosiak of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. The team has already placed Woodruff on the IL.

There was initial hope that it’d just be a short stint on the IL, and that hasn’t been ruled out yet, but obviously the uncertainty over how best to proceed is a little concerning. Woodruff made another strong start to the season, giving up just one earned run across two starts and 11 1/3 innings. An injury for any length of time would be a significant blow to the Brewers, who have made a strong start to the season.

Woodruff has blossomed into one of the game’s better starting pitchers in recent years, compiling a 2.97 ERA across 94 starts since the 2019 season. While he did miss some time for a high ankle sprain last year, he’s never missed time in the big leagues with an arm-related injury.

Here’s a few more notes:

  • Sonja Chen of MLB.com relays an update from Mets manager Buck Showalter on injured starter Justin Verlander. The veteran is scheduled for a bullpen in Florida, and then if that goes well he’ll throw another side before facing live batters. Once he’s ticked off those, he could be ready for a Mets debut. Verlander hit the shelf after suffering a low-grade strain of the teres major muscle towards the end of spring training. While there’s no firm timetable for his return just yet, it does appear that Mets fans won’t have to wait too much longer to see their star off-season recruit make his debut. The 40-year old Verlander signed with the Mets on a two-year, $86.67MM deal this winter after making 28 starts of 1.75 ERA ball for the Astros last year.
  • John Denton of MLB.com tweets that Cardinals veteran Adam Wainwright threw a 50-pitch simulated game prior to last night’s game against the Pirates at Busch Stadium. Wainwright is working his way back from a groin injury suffered in spring training. It’s not entirely clear what the next step for Wainwright is, but it wouldn’t be a surprise to see him go and make a rehab start at some point. The 41-year old has remained a steady presence in the Cardinals’ rotation, making 32 starts in each of the past two seasons and working to a combined 3.37 ERA. Jake Woodward made a strong start against the Pirates last night, but he would appear the likeliest to drop out of the rotation once Wainwright returns.
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  1. slidepiece

    2 years ago

    Wowsers

    Reply
  2. the cuban solution

    2 years ago

    Waino is scheduled to make a rehab start this week, as reported by the Cards broadcast yesterday.

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  3. 86mets

    2 years ago

    So…..Verlander is on track for a mid June debut? Sounds about right.

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    • Camden453

      2 years ago

      Probably. He’ll throw a bullpen session and then go in for more imaging revealing a problem, and then he’s out until July

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    • Dumpster Divin Theo

      2 years ago

      Waysto space oh

      Reply
    • bronxmac77

      2 years ago

      Better make it August.
      For load management purposes.

      Reply
    • bronxmac77

      2 years ago

      Maybe he needs to borrow some vi agra from Rafael Palmeiro.

      1
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      • Dumpster Divin Theo

        2 years ago

        I have never ever period. Full stop. Finger wag!

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  4. sean-11

    2 years ago

    Jake Woodward??

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    • GooseGoslinGuy

      2 years ago

      Woodford

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      • bronxmac77

        2 years ago

        Edward Woodward would…

        Reply
  5. Camden453

    2 years ago

    Friendly reminder to fellow Mets fans: Mets should not call up Baty

    Stop being a prospect simp. Fan pressure to make bad moves hurts the Mets

    As Keith said, Escobar is a 2 defensively on strat-o-matic (1 is gold glove) and when he’s locked in and seeing the ball well hes better at the plate

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    • mlb fan

      2 years ago

      The Met’s biggest problem is not 3bman Escobar nor is it Justin Verlander. The Met’s BIGGEST problem, is they no longer get to FEAST on the soft underbelly of the Marlins/Nationals for 38 gms a yr.

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      • Camden453

        2 years ago

        Yet they’re 5-1 against the Marlins this year

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        • mlb fan

          2 years ago

          They’re also BELOW .500 against everyone else. Welcome to balanced schedules.

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        • MarlinsFanBase

          2 years ago

          They’re actually 5-2 against the Marlins. But I wouldn’t brag about those with the way the Marlins SPs struggled with the strikezone. Good look with that repeating again when they see each other again. Our young pitchers have been learning as they go along.

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        • bronxmac77

          2 years ago

          As usual, your reading incomprehension rears its ugly head.

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        • MarlinsFanBase

          2 years ago

          @bronxmac

          As usual, you’re usual lack of reading comprehension, blind homerism and inability to take it after you try to dish it, rears its ugly head.
          ‘
          But do keep trying. We love the entertainment.

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      • Attystephenadams

        2 years ago

        Ummm….same thing applies to the Braves and the Phillies, doesn’t it?

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        • mlb fan

          2 years ago

          Not as much, since the Braves were in 2 of the last 3 World Series, winning one and the Phillies made it to last yrs World Series, so the Mets have to own this one alone.

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        • AgeeHarrelsonJones

          2 years ago

          There are soft underbellies all over the mlb. Mets will be fine

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        • rct

          2 years ago

          “since the Braves were in 2 of the last 3 World Series,”

          They’ve been in one World Series in the last 20 years. What are you talking about?

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        • mlb fan

          2 years ago

          You got me on that one. I went from memory and thought they’d appeared twice when it was actually once.

          Reply
        • bronxmac77

          2 years ago

          In the Mets case, it’s soft pink underbelly. And their hineys will be smacked, cracked and whacked as well.

          Reply
  6. JoelP

    2 years ago

    The news, or lack there of, on Woodruff doesn’t sound promising. Pretty big blow if he’s out for weeks.

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    • egrossen

      2 years ago

      Weeks, or longer…

      Reply
    • Dumpster Divin Theo

      2 years ago

      Woodruff- also a puppy before it finds its voice

      Reply
  7. icantstandyous

    2 years ago

    The Mets are done, while the idea of cohen’s pockets meant endless possibilities, they left it up to very questionable baseball minds to make personnel decisions. They are a pitching heavy franchise yet they have developed a true pitching prospect in what 8 years? And they still don’t have anything reputable in the farm. Cohen needs to write off this team. Hire Stearns and give him the keys.

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    • Camden453

      2 years ago

      Cohen failed to get rid of scouting director Tommy Tanous who has been there for 13 years

      Tanous hasn’t been successful, to put it mildly. The Mets continue to miss in the drafts

      I thought it would improve under Cohen, and it did slightly, but it’s still the same problem

      They are still not drafting talent on the level that the Braves, Dodgers, Yankees, Guardians, etc do

      Nothing will change with the Mets until they fix how they draft

      Development will work if you actually draft the more talented players

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      • Tigers3232

        2 years ago

        @Camden, they have the 11th ranked farm system in MLB. They also have 4 of the top 100 ranked prospects including the 3rd overall ranked. And 11th is higher than 13th where the Yankees are ranked.

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        • flamingbagofpoop

          2 years ago

          The yankees aren’t exactly known for turning out stars, so I’m not sure if that’s really much of a bar to clear? Further, prospect rankings don’t mean much, it’s about producing players that actually succeed at the MLB level (same thing people constantly call out the yankees’ prospects for failing to do). They need some more Pete Alonso’s unless they plan to just run a $500m payroll every year.

          I think Cohen said that he wanted to replicate the dodgers’ model, so I imagine that he’ll address the scouting/development at some point. As much as it’s fun to lolmets, I think they’re headed in the correct direction, even if they’re not getting there as fast as some people thought/wanted them to.

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        • Tigers3232

          2 years ago

          I mentioned the Yankees due to the comment I was replying to. As far as the Mets developing talent both catchers, Alonso, Nimmo, McNeil were all talentthey developed. Vogelbach and Lindor were acquired by trading talent they drafted and developed. Carrasco acquired through trade for talent drafted/developed, Megill, Patterson, Butto all talent they developed. The majority of their roster was either developed or acquired with developed talent. The notion that they just spend to build a roster is a misconception based off the size of their payroll. Two thirds of starting lineup was drafted or acquired through talent they drafted. Along with half of their starting pitchers. And it was just this year that their lineup was not composed primarily of talent they drafted.

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        • bronxmac77

          2 years ago

          The Dodgers and the Astros, in my opinion,are thr current blueprint on how to run a team. No one team is going to win in all every year. The über -tiered playoffs are designed to prevent that. But both teams routinely produce fruitful farm system products…vand remain at the top of MLB’s echelon while doing so.

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    • Blue Baron

      2 years ago

      @icantstandyous: Where did David Peterson and Tylor Megill come from? Seems like you actually don’t know what you’re talking about.

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      • icantstandyous

        2 years ago

        Blue fool – if you think they are good…go get Chu some. Blue fool

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        • Blue Baron

          2 years ago

          @icantstandyous: The thing about you being so astoundingly ignorant is that you don’t realize that it would be much better to stay silent so we only think you might be a doofus than to open that piehole and spew your foolish nonsense, which serves to confirm our suspicions. But of course you don’t realize that because you obviously are too stupid to grasp the true depth and breadth of your own stupidity. Quite pitiful, really.

          Reply
        • bronxmac77

          2 years ago

          @icantstandyous
          You rhyme all the time.
          But you sound dumber than a bag of doorknobs. Is that intentional?

          And who GivesAShit what you can’t stand? You ignorant idiot.

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        • Blue Baron

          2 years ago

          I think I summed him up perfectly.

          1
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        • bronxmac77

          2 years ago

          Yes. Correctly as well.
          I just let off some steam.

          1
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    • bronxmac77

      2 years ago

      Blue Baron thinks you’re clueless.
      Thoughts?

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  8. MarlinsFanBase

    2 years ago

    Sitting down with lemonade and popcorn to watch the Mets fans complain about what is wrong after 14 games.

    Complete panic mode with being behind the Braves by an unsurmountable 2 games…and the Marlins putting some major pressure on them, having moved within a game of catching them. for that 6th spot since the Pirates will surely surpass the Mets any day now.

    Very little time to right the ship with only 148 games left in the season.

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  9. bronxmac77

    2 years ago

    Mets are facing the Oakland A’sses. They better make up some ground.

    Reply
  10. bronxmac77

    2 years ago

    “2 comments are hidden because you muted the comment authors”

    Talk to the hand.

    1
    Reply
  11. nottinghamforest13

    2 years ago

    What exactly is a stimulated game anyway? Is someone calling out imaginary scenarios? Are guys pretending to get hits and running around the bases? How does it work?

    1
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    • C Yards Jeff

      2 years ago

      You wrote “stimulated”. Heh heh, Heh heh.

      Reply
    • bronxmac77

      2 years ago

      It’s a game where the bats are. Mighty, and the balls plentiful.

      Reply
  12. MarlinsFanBase

    2 years ago

    LOL at @bronxmac77. He proudly shows that he’s one of those cowards that can dish it, but can’t take it.

    Good luck at keeping the respect of other posters when they see how easily you mute others when they expose the fallacies in your posts, and when they dish it back, but you can’t take it.

    “Waaaa Waaaa…he made me look stupid! I’ll mute him so I don’t get made to look stupid on any other comments. Waaaa Waaaaa!” – @bronxmac

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  13. bronxmac77

    2 years ago

    Cardinals getting punk-slapped by the Dbacks. Who’s Oli gonna throw under the team bus after this one?

    Reply
  14. bronxmac77

    2 years ago

    Wow. Hicks with a whip of 3.35.
    Like a human giveaway day.

    Reply
  15. bronxmac77

    2 years ago

    Nice attempt comeback for the Cardinals. Dbacks showed some sack by holding on, and clinch the series. I think Bumgarner is going though. Could be batting practice for the Cardinals.

    Reply
  16. bronxmac77

    2 years ago

    .421.

    Only the tanking Reds are beneath.
    Is is time for Mozeliak to mozy on?
    Does Oli feel Shildt guilt?
    Thoughts?

    Reply

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