5:05pm: The Tigers did not trade Rodriguez, reports Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic. If Rodriguez opts out of his contract after the season as expected, the 2023 trade deadline will have to be viewed as a missed opportunity for the club, as he is ineligible for a qualifying offer. According to Rosenthal’s colleague Fabian Ardaya, Rodriguez vetoed the trade to the Dodgers due to “a desire to remain closer to family on the east coast.”
3:54pm: Tigers lefty Eduardo Rodriguez invoked his no-trade clause to kill a trade to the Dodgers, according to ESPN’s Jeff Passan. Passan writes that a deal was in place pending Rodriguez’s approval, but is now dead. Rodriguez’s contract allows him to block deals to ten teams annually, and the Dodgers were on his list. Now, the Tigers president of baseball operations Scott Harris has approximately one hour before today’s trade deadline to find a new deal for Rodriguez.
Earlier this afternoon, the Tigers reached an agreement to send Rodriguez’s rotation-mate Michael Lorenzen to the Phillies for infield prospect Hao-Yu Lee. Finding a match for Rodriguez is crucial for Detroit, because he’s possibly the best starting pitcher on the trade market, he’s ineligible for a qualifying offer after the season, and he’s likely to opt out of his remaining three years and $49MM. The Tigers still have 19 teams to which Rodriguez cannot block a deal.
The Padres were said to have interest in Rodriguez, but that may have changed upon their acquisition of Rich Hill. Plus, it’s possible Rodriguez’s aversion to the Dodgers is a geographical thing and the Padres are also on his list. The Orioles, Reds, and Diamondbacks could still be possibilities.
The Dodgers, though they’ve added Lance Lynn, have now missed out on top targets Justin Verlander and Rodriguez. It’s unclear on where they may turn; yesterday, Jack Harris of the L.A. Times suggested Plan C could be to do nothing. The Cardinals’ Jack Flaherty is still a candidate to move.
Lol
Apparently, he has had to drive a car in LA at some point. No effing Thanks.
I think from experience he doesn’t want to be on the big stage and expected to win a big game. He wants to be a big fish in a small pond with a smaller field of reporters and lights on him after every start.
I think that’s dead on. I just came to the same conclusion after he said no the the LAD maybe send him to Seattle or Tampa
I could definitely see that
I love all the morons hating on the city of Detroit that have never even been there! Downtown Detroit is awesome! A ton of things to do, great restaurants, old architecture, etc. The surrounding areas aren’t great, but there are trash ghettos in every big US city. Some people are so shallow!
I’ve had some of the best times playing ball at Joe Dumars Rec center. Loved it.
Or he doesn’t want to give up another 10% of his salary with almost 10% higher state income tax in California.
Dodgers wanted him to wave next years opt out, so he nixed the deal per CBS Sports.
Omg you people need to give this tax thing a break. You could get a ring in LA you know how hard that is to do? What would that be worth to you?
A ring in what?
A world series ring, love, not to mention you don’t pay the tax rate where you work, you pay it where you live. You could have your residence somewhere else. If tax rates were such a big deal big market teams couldn’t sign anyone. Now I will grant you they might have to pay a premium to make up for the tax rate, but apparently that works because they manage to sign some of the best talent.
Sounds like you are convincing yourself it’s great
You pay out of state taxes for work you do in other states, and you pay taxes in the state you live. California has the among the highest of both of those, in addition to outrageous property taxes. If Freddie had accepted the Braves’ five year offer, he’d have made more than he’s making in his current six year deal. That’s just the way it is, love.
But where is Freddie playing? Where is Judge playing? Where is Trout playing? C’mon get over it.
Not correct most professional athletes file taxes in a dozen or more states based on location of game
Freddie’s playing at home in Southern California and we’ve got Matt Olson, so it’s all good. If you ask Freddie, though, he’ll tell you he screwed up. And now he’s making a lot less money to boot. You takes your chances and you live with ’em.
You do not pay income tax based on where you live.
Athletes pay prorated taxes based on the number of games they play in different localities. All players play CA state tax for the games they play in CA.
If you live in California and play 81 games in California, then you pay taxes on those 81 games.
CA property taxes are below the national average.
Plus the games played in the other 4 California teams ball parks.
Freddie should have signed but he’s going to make a run with the Dodgers & if Atlanta wins, he probably will shed one tear and it will drop on the pile of cash he is sitting on
E-rod already has a world series ring.
You’re wrong. I live in PA, work in NYC and I pay NY state income taxes. I don’t know that CA is any different.
This is false and horrible tax advice.
Freeman took less money to sign with the Dodgers because of deferrals.
California has among best property tax rates in the country and property insurance rates as well.
Freeman accepted less money to play for the Dodgers.
They have asked him many times. He never said he screwed up.
Tax rates are based on where you play. Dodger players pay CA tax on 50%, because 50% of games in LA. Also pay in Oakland, Anaheim, San Fran, and San Diego.
Most Detroiters don’t t live in downtown; they live in those surrounding areas that “aren’t so great…”. I’m from Detroit area and have lived within 313. I’ve lived all over the world and I can honestly say that living here in Africa now with its poor cities is significantly better than living in Detroit was.
Freeman painted himself into a corner, and was shocked when Atlanta pulled their offer. LA got him at a bargain rate because his first choice was off the table.
He wouldn’t say it publicly, of course, but if you saw him at that first game back at Truist, you could see that he was remorseful.
if your downtown Detroit is the only decent place to visit, for even 50 years, your city has major major problems, starting with corruption.
You pay taxes where you play including visiting cities. Google “jock tax”
Bs. Go back and look at the timeline again.
No he wasn’t. He was nostalgic. There is a difference.
Hed make that up in 1 commercial
Drown I agree with you completely. Just a few short years ago my wife and I visited Camerica Park and it and the surrounding are were awesome. I highly encourage anyone following your team to not hesitate to do so. The ballpark was beautiful.
He already has one from the Red Sox in 18
He pitched in Boston, the big stage is NOT a concern for him
First I heard of that. Not sure how valid. Dodgers could have done deal as rental. Doesn’t make sense for the Dodgers to force him to do that especially if it would have killed the deal.
I’m sure there was a balance between the return wanted by Detroit. Not much was going back for a rental. Something nice would go back if he was signed for another year. Detroit had a say in this; not just Rodriguez and the Dodgers.
Detroit has some of the richest suburbs in the country.
The City is on a major upswing and is on a new boom attracting lots of very creative, smart, upwardly mobile, successful people.
Detroit is a “hidden gem” that many are pleasantly surprised to discover.
It’s true. The financial criminals can usually be found huddled in the tall buildings, stealing our futures.
Told them!
Uhh, good luck explaining to the IRS you have nothing to do with where your team is located when you spend more than six months as a baseball player there. If only the tax laws could change depending on your preferences.
No kidding. But if you play for the Dodgers guess which state you play more than half your games in? Ever heard of home games, plus SD and SF road games? Not sure why this is still debated. Taxes matter. It would only have been for three months or so though.
Property tax rates are lower but housing prices are highest in nation in many high end locations, where baseball players live. Your property tax bill in high end areas probably higher than most places in the country. We haven’t even mentioned high sales tax and one of highest gas taxes. Let’s face it. You don’t ever win the tax game living in CA. Price you pay to live here.
Several major insurance companies are no longer issuing new homeowners policies in CA due to wildfires and rising cost to rebuild. What do you think that does to premiums in CA? Property taxes are high when your $10mm home in CA costs a fraction of that in Detroit. If you really want to properly compare it has to be apples to apples. Don’t make me laugh if you think you pay less property taxes in Detroit compared to Los Angeles. It’s not close.
No, Gavin Newsome is the governor plus he didn’t want to share time with LeBron.
Fool
They should send him to KC and take whatever they offer. F him.
Couldn’t have said it better myself
wE nEvEr wAnTeD hIm AnYwAy
-Dodger fans
It’s alright we’ll just take Ohtani next year Jason ^_^
Someone in the Detroit front office should get fired for not being able to move ERod. If the Dodgers fall through, then you gotta have a back up.
The only way this nakes sense is the ERod camp blew this up at the very last minute and screwed the front office over.
LOL Doyers
WOW, a b**ch slap to LA, LOVE IT!
Trevor Bauer is available
More likely the Dodgers said fu when he tried to strong arm them for an extension.
Who on Earth wants to stay in DETROIT?
Taxes
This whole “taxes” thing as a reason for him vetoing this trade is a canard. First of all it’s only for a couple of months, so were not talking about a lot of money. Secondly, he’d stand to make more being in the playoffs than whatever amount of extra tax he’d have to pay. And thirdly, even if the extra tax was his reason (it’s not) it’s inconceivable that one or both teams wouldn’t agree to cover such a relatively modest amount of money to facilitate the deal.
I doubt anyone saying taxes went and looked at the Dodgers schedule to see where he’d be playing
You can’t ‘cover’ someone else taxes legally. You could possibly give him a ‘gift’ but I think that tops at something around $15k (though it might have gone up some). You would have to bump his salary which never seems to be done in MLB unless within the parameters of an extension.
I am in agreement with the rest of your thoughts, though I do believe the immediate income hit would be the most pressing thing a player would likely think about in the terms of money.
More importantly, why would these two front offices not go over it with the player before basically letting everyone know it’s about to happen. I mean, they knew he had a no-trade clause and both organizations come out looking like amateur organizations..
The parties could agree to rewrite his current contract to include any anticipated amount of money he’d need to cover his expenses – whatever they might be. That’s entirely legal. In short, he can accept a small extra payment, if he wants to.
“You would have to bump his salary which never seems to be done in MLB unless within the parameters of an extension.”
As a percentage of his monies owed, it would be miniscule (even if that really was his sole objection). No “extension” required.
Of course you can. It would have to be considered a gift on your next years taxes, but anyone can pay your tax bill for you if they choose to.
You can also be given a raise in salary to cover the difference in tax rates. When recruiting great employees we often took that into account.
There is a 1% difference in total tax burden between California and Michigan and considering the fact that MLB players pay state income taxes based on where they play each game its negligible.
Michigan 4.25% flat rate
California 13.3% maximum rate
Where do you get the “1% difference?”
Because of Proposition 13, California has a lower property tax rate than most States.
Michigan has a higher property tax rate than CA.
As the Houston Chronicle explained in a detailed analysis, Most Texans actually pay more State taxes than Most Californians.
No State income tax in Texas, but much higher property taxes and they nickel and dime you to death in other fees and taxes.
Flawed analysis for ultra wealthy. Lower property tax rate means nothing when the CA home is much more expensive than MI home. The wealthy pay a much larger portion of taxes in CA.
We haven’t even talked about the new mansion tax in City of LA where seller pays 4% on home sale between $5-10 million and 5.5% on home sale greater than $10 million. Proceeds go to fight homelessness, at least in name because we all know how great that’s working out in LA.
There is also constant attempts to raise highest tax bracket by a couple of percentage points or something else to keep dinging the wealthiest. That’s why so many ultra wealthy individuals and corporations have left in the last few years.
LA is worse by every available metric. This isn’t 20 years ago. LA is a trash heap these days. Not only that, he would lose money due to insane taxes in California.
He wouldn’t have to move to LA…. He would be on the team for 2-3 months lol
It’s probably an agent thing in that there’s another team he WANTS to play for but Detroit’s asking price was rejected by them
@rola1026
You misunderstand…MLB players are paid per game based on the location of their home team. In E-Rod’s case…he still has like $5M left to be paid this year. Will probably amount to hundred of thousands in tax saved.
Haha! He misunderstands more than that. Lol!
I’d be willing to bet majority of mlb players don’t even think about the taxes. That’s the agents job, if he is good & honest. For most players it’s about the long term contract plus the money! Don’t believe them when they say it’s NOT about the money, they always take the bigger & longest deal.
No Arenado because the Cardinals wanted the peanut butter, the jelly & the bread from LA.
The players make money for playing in the playoffs….
Up his own rear end by the sounds of it.
A trash heap? I guess that’s Los Angeles county has a higher population than 40 STATES. You FoxNews clowns keep talking trash, we don’t want you here in paradise.
You and I have extremely varying views on what paradise entails. In my paradise, the city streets aren’t covered in homeless people and their feces/needles.
Ahhhh paradise….skipping through fields of daisies down Hollywood Blvd and have your day spoiled by a rat falling on your head from a palm tree and tripping over a wino, only to fall onto a heroin needle.
Fortunately neither is 99% of LA, Jonny
apparently many of you still think it’s the 90s in LA
They are so clueless. Have no idea they are in a cult and everything they say is the opposite of reality.
Yeah, that’s why people are fleeing to other states. Paradise lol.
“Nobody goes there anymore; it’s too crowded.”
I think you’re getting LA confused with San Fran and Seattle.
fake fox pants on fire liars propaganda does not pass independent, non partisan fact checking.
Hannity interviewed Governor Gavin Newsome.
Newsome set Hannity straight on a lot of the non sense they peddle on his propaganda channel.
Hi, LA resident here. It’s a beautiful city. Expensive, yes. But not the “trash heap” routinely depicted in the media. Millionaire baseball players do just fine here. Always have, always will. Have a nice day.
Completely false, misleading, inaccurate information.
I can’t imagine being stuck in Detroit or Los Angeles. Sounds like hell to me.
True, send him to Cincy. Decent smaller city, way less traffic and taxes
Metro Detoit is actually an amazing area. Yes Detroit itself leaves alot to b desired. But for someone of a pro athletes means, there are plenty of awesome locations and tons on private or larger public lakes.
In what world is there less traffic in Cincy than Detroit? I live close to Cincy and they’re all Sunday drivers plus the construction on 75 makes it impossible to move during peak traffic hours. Meanwhile, I go to Detroit frequently. There is congestion on 75 in Detroit as well. Only difference is that in Detroit everyone still goes 70 and you can get from A to B in about half the amount of time.
by Sunday drivers you mean safe drivers?
That. What he said. Detroit is cool for a visit.
kahnkobra absolutely not. If I would have meant safe drivers I would have just said that.
If you wanna read dumb commentary, go on a sports forum where fans think players choose teams based on traffic.
No Sunday drivers means people who don’t drive enough to know how to drive. Holding up traffic, slamming on the brakes the second the light turns yellow, not noticing a second left hand turn lane…slowing down on the merge lane with no turn signal and backing up traffic etc etc
Cincinnati, where rivers catch on fire . Lol
I know that’s been a few years now but how bad did that city have to be for that to happen?
That was Cleveland, not Cincinnati.
Pay me enough and I’ll commute by helicopter if necessary.
Curious where you live
Up his own rear end by the sounds of it.
for $15m per year anyone would – if he is comfortable so be it.
Evidently E-Rod. He will veto any deal to LA, and to whatever hellhole you live in.
That’s what I was thinking
Says someone who hasn’t been to detroit
Just because he doesn’t want to go to LA doesn’t mean he wants to stay in Detroit. He’s getting traded either way, this way he can pick somewhere more desirable to him.
It’s no way about money. He’d make up far more lost in taxes when he plays in the playoffs. I understand wanting to say with family but as a ball player during the season it’s not like you’re home much anyway. Plus, it’s just two months and playoffs. Not wanting to compete for a championship is a strange choice for any athlete.
@Walk off, he is not getting traded….
@Tigers3232 I stand corrected. I figured since there was so much interest in him that one of the other teams would swoop in and make an eleventh hour offer.
@Walk Off, I was hoping for the same. I was not very optimistic tho after he already nixed the first trade.
His and Baez’s contracts were crazy enough. All player options so they have security if they get hurt but opt outs to get paid more if they perform well. Didn’t realize that on top of that, at least ERod if not both have full NTC’s.
To make matters worse he’s not eligible for a QO so they won’t even get a pick if he opts out.
It was only a 10 team no trade list. Unfortunately, HARRIS didn’t read it!
Iirc La beat out atlanta and baltimore before the deal was vetoed. Perhaps he preferred one of those teams. We will find out in an hour or so if it happened.
Erod is a coward. Have fun losing in Detroit.
OOOOk, he’s still getting moved, just not to LAD
LOLOL STILL ON DETROIT! I wonder how tiger fans and management feel about him costing them some much needed rebuild pieces. But detroit can keep him for the rest of his contract.
A coward because he wants to stay closer to his family? How old are you? 10?
I imagine people who don’t care about blindly ragging on specific cities for worthless internet points.
Talking trash is pretty much the only entertainment some people get these days.
Why on earth would someone make ignorant statements?
Because they are ignorant or they are children.
Millions of people. And that city is attracting talented, young people from other cities buying reasonably priced real estate and fixing it up to live there.
Wow
LOL
Eddie doesn’t like LA. Interesting
I’m also an Eddie and support this message…hahaha!
No Arenado and now no Rodriguez. Dodgers fans might melt down in shock.
B-b-but doesn’t everyone worship the Dodgers? LOL
N-n-n-no, I’m an Angel…
Dodgers? No. Doyers? Yes.
Lol. I used to live 3 miles from the ballpark in LA, and it would take me 90 minutes to go 7 miles from home to work. If I was E-Rod I would say no to LA, NY, Angeles, Cubs, White Sox, A’s, Giants….
JHC, just take a bus
The man is making eight figures
I drive 65 miles to Dodger Stadium and it usually takes around 90 minutes.
Ryan Yarborough, consolation prize supreme!
He prefers Detroit over LA?
I’ve never been to Detroit, but I prefer it over LA too!
No…he prefers somewhere else TDB to LA.
As someone who lived in la for 20+ years place is complete garbage. It’s pretty much the same as New York
I’d say not having a real subway system is a pretty big difference.
It’s being expanded, but not very cost effective compared to BART or NY system.
He prefers east coast over west coast. I’m gonna sound a bit corny, but he loves his wife and family so much so that when some trouble erupted in the family, he took 2 months off to return to Miami to get things back in order.
I’m guessing a trade now would involve him going to a Florida team, or somewhere in the southeastern U.S. to remain close.
Well, he’s got no coast in Detroit.
I called that one (if you haven’t seen the update).
The Great Lakes State and thousands of private lakes plenty of water available for sporting in Detroit and Michigan.
LMAO
He wants to win. Come to ATL, Ed!
Hey, Eduardo here, I want you to know that I, and every ball player read these comments, and will come to your team because you asked us to.
I got a ballplayer as captive audience and I don’t even have a paid membership?! Noice!
Grissom for ED, and ED agrees to an extension. Let’s get it done!…Would help soften the blow of losing Fried in free agency soon
Ding-ding-ding!
LA … proved too much for the man.
I wouldn’t want to move to Cali either.
California is great if you are really rich…
Cali is in Columbia.
Or too little. I mean it is LA..
Keep in mind …. He was never a super star….
These weird little trolls need to get cultured. Great comment
Watch him get traded to the Braves at midnight.
Great song. Is he leaving on a midnight train for Georgia?
How the he’ll does that happen at the last minute! Uggghhh.
Dodgers probably refused to extend his current deal.
Guess Harris should talk to his employees occasionally. Would have saved him some time.
Most players have a price to waive their NTC. No reason to remove 10 places if it can be remedied. Scherzer initially balked at being traded, but they resolved it.
You’d think he at least had a Plan B or Plan C. Keeping Rodriguez makes no sense when he’s opting out and you can’t get a QO for him. Or an initial we’re thinking about trading you to the Dodgers, would you be open to waiving the NTC? Unless Rodriguez changed his mind it makes the Tigers look incompetent.
LOLLLLLL
LA fans in shambles…
Not really.
HELL YEAH!!! COME TO THE BRAVES
wha-wha-what?
rflol – good call by him
way to signal to teams when you are a free agent next year that you don’t care about winning!
Its not that he doesn’t care about winning. Just doesn’t want to do it in LA. LA is not the only option for winning.
We’ll see where he goes instead.
So the alternative is rotting away with the Tigers. Tells you a lot about his competitive drive. Weak. Go to another playoff team in the east coast at least.
He prefers not competing for WS/playoffs? Wondering if he gets trade at all.
Prob doesn’t wanna come up short every year, probably doesn’t wanna see ugly Muncy every day.
To be fair, no one really wants to see your ugly attitude everyday, but you’re here flooding the comments with it anyway.
Oof, work harder on the comebacks. Unoriginal.
Geez dude. Dodgers living in your head rent free. Salty little hater!
Randy Newman: I love L.A.!
Eduardo Rodriguez: I don’t!
Didn’t expect to see this one!
He should be drug tested if he thinks that staying in Detriot is better than playing in Los Angeles
Clearly you haven’t been to both cities recently
Looks like your team whiffed on him and Verlander. Ouch.
That was a response to someone else. My bad
Taxes + wifey might not have let him go to LA after whatever drama happened last year.
You know..you may want to read his username. Go ahead. We’ll all wait.
More likely than not he is getting traded somewhere else.
Yikes
Wow that’s pretty surprising
They better have an alternate deal or be restructuring his contract to keep him or this is a big whiff for the Tigers
Wow! What an idiot !
Right? The Tiger’s GM is a total idiot for not knowing EROD would only ok a deal to the east coast.
whoa
LMAO
THANK YOU MR. ACAVANO ! Well he has pitched one year almost for the two he’s been here. Good grief, a fail.
Who the hell is Mr. AVACANO???
Oh sorry, Mr. ACAVANO
Probably prefers paying 4.25% state taxes rather than 13%.
Does he like making money for being in the playoffs?
There are other teams going to the playoffs beyond (likely) the Dodgers.
Your calculations are off.
California property taxes are lower than most States.
State income tax is only one tax factor.
You have to analyze all State taxes including the all important property taxes and junk fees.
“Well, at least we get to hold onto all our prospects. ” said no Dodgers fan
Dodgers can have Cole. Make Yankees an offer they can’t refuse
@nyy, my wish 2 yrs ago was Stanton/Cole for Lux, Urias, and a few more prospects. I’d take the same now.
They just buy new ones internationally anyway
There are a few of us Dodger fans that are okay with not overpaying for short-term rentals this year. Let’s see what the kids have.
For those wondering, it’s probably because he wanted the Dodgers to guarantee they’d pay him for the next 3 seasons, which wasn’t happening lol
He is the one that is going to opt out of that.
Because he’s on the Tigers. If he were on a contending team, he likely wouldn’t because he knows that no contending team in their right mind would give him what he’s seeking
Not positive but pretty sure he has the opt option not the team so no that’s not the reason apparently the Dodgers were fine with paying him the next 3 years if he accepted the trade.
I doubt it. I think they were betting on him opting out. A smiliar case with Verlander. They didn’t want to guarantee that 3rd year
Stop repeating the same (wrong) info.
E-Rod has a player opt out. He can choose to become a free agent at the end of this year or opt in to the final 3 years.
Dodgers would have 0 say in it.
And ALL MLB CONTRACTS ARE GUARANTEED. A MLB team cannot offer a non-guaranteed year unless it is specifically tied to a performance clause/bonus.
Read what I said below. I know it’s a player opt-out. The Dodgers usually have a good idea of when players aren’t as good anymore so for them, it’s obviously a better scenario for E-Rod to opt out than for him to opt in for 3 more seasons.
The Verlander deal is not a perfect comparison, but the 3rd year is about innings. If the Dodgers were to limit those innings in his 2nd year, than he wouldn’t get the 3rd year guarantee. It was reported that’s part of the concerns the Dodgers had, that final year
He wants to be on the East Coast
That makes 0 sense considering HE is the one who can opt in or opt out. Neither the Tigers, Dodgers or any other team has any control over his contract option.
You don’t think it’s a possibilty that a team like the Dodgers, who usually have a history of driving up pitchers’ values, would make him look better over these last two months? It’s certainly been enticing for a lot of other pitchers.
But at the same time, he also knows he probably wouldn’t be as good on another team than someone like the Dodgers. I’m not saying it’s the determining factor, but I’m sure that played at least a little part in it
Like they did with Syndergaard? Lol
Exactly like Syndergaard and not the Andrew Heaneys, Tyler Andersons, Rich Hills, Evan Phillips, Yency Almontes, Joe Blantons, Hyun-Jin Ryus, Brandon Morrows etc. of the world!
Maybe he just didn’t want to be around all of the snowflakes in Los Angeles. I don’t know for sure but just sayin…
I don’t know for sure, but it seems like you have a problem. Just sayin.
Probably a negotiating ploy. Either to go to a preferred team or to get LA to pony up for an extension.
There’s a reason large market teams are usually on no trade lists.
LA is quickly becoming Detroit 2.0 from a living standpoint. Plus 13.3% state income tax? Shrewd biz decision.
You were. obviously, not a math major.
Texas has higher State Taxes than California when you factor in property taxes and junk fees for most people.
CA has one the lowest property tax rates in the country.
Guess the post-season is not important to EROD.
I guess he hates having to wake up 3 hours earlier. I love my job since I start at 10 AM. I would be so miserable if it started at 7. Now, of course, he only “works” 81 times a year, but still, that’s annoying.
You love to see it.
Probably a lower injury risk just pitching out the regular season schedule in Detroit, assuming he plans the opt out.
The more I think about it the more I think it’s the ability to face the AL Central opponents who collectively are the weakest hitting teams by division. Much worse than the NL West, including at Colorado where pitcher ERAs balloon. Also pitching in non-playoff atmosphere is mentally easier. This gives him a higher chance to maintain stats and performance in second half so he can opt out to a fat new contract compared to potentially having to keep remaining three year contact if he faltered with the Dodgers in second half.
How do you go through an entire trade process without knowing that the player is going to accept the trade? In any event, funny that any player would block a trade to stay in Detroit.
He wasn’t expecting to stay in Detroit. HARRIS dropped the ball!
That’s right stymeedone. Inexperienced.
Well
Dammit
LA lights are just too bright for some. May he underachieve wherever he goes.
Too bright for your own players too!
It happens. Dodgers gonna be just fine though.
And the smog a bit too thick, traffic a bit to congested, and the homeless a bit too everywhere. Dirty gross city.
He’s achieved more than you sitting on the couch talking smack about a player just because he didn’t want to go to a certain team. If he had accepted you’d be stoked and hoping he oberachieves. Typical dodger fan, self centered acting like everything revolves around them. Erod nor the dodgers give af what you think. May you under achieve at your job or whatever else you do, peace!
LA has to have lights to see thru the smog.
Not everyone wants to be a Dodger. Right Shohei.
Dodgers and their fans think everyone wants to be a dodger.
Not true. Verlander also clearly didn’t. And that one I understand. This one? Not so much.
His agent probably told him about the California 13.3 % tax on his paycheck if he went to any team in California.
More like 30%
No, 13.3% state income tax. Believe me, I am reminded every two weeks.
1% difference in total tax burden between Michigan and California. Plus, MLB players pay state taxes in every state they play a game in.
Michigan 4.25% flat rate
California 13.3% max. rate
Where do you get the “1% difference?”
Total tax burden. Google it. Its not just about the state income tax rate.
Income tax is relative. I had clients in PA that has a flat tax that paid much more than clients in other states that had a much higher rate but many potential tax credits and other adjustments.
I would bet anyone in an MLB income range has an exceptional tax attorney and accounting firm that they use to maximize the amount of money they keep. Most agents probably make both of those available to all their clients.
Again. CA has one of the lowest property tax rates in the country, Total State taxes for most people are higher in States like Texas than in California according to the Houston Chronicle.
Simple formula: Income Tax + Property taxes+ junk fees= total state taxes
That madman really turned down the chance to pitch for a contender so he could stay with the Tigers. I’ve never seen anything like this
Is this because of the taxes?
No. Its about family.
He’s just become my favorite AL player
After that lol, does the Dodgers want Quintana or Carrasco from the Mets for Gavin Stone ? Come L.A. the Mets need a pitching prospect lol
Harris to Rodríguez: “Waddya nuts?!!!”
Rodriguez to Harris: Hi. Nice to meet you. You know you could have just asked, weeks ago.
Wow who doesn’t want to come to hollywood land that shows me how much I know.Maybe he didn’t want to be under a pressure cooker..
I heard their sharknado season is about to start, I don’t blame the man. Not many umbrellas can handle the hammerhead.
i think it’s less the taxes situation and more the limelight situation. I get the vibe he doesn’t want to be on a high-visibility, big media market environment, hence signing with Detroit in FA after playing in Boston. That and/or it was simply something in the details of his contract where he wanted X assurances and LA wouldnt commit to it.
He’s holding out for the Orioles to swoop in and bring him back to his original baseball home 😉
Seems like maybe he knows something and he’s hoping to get to somewhere else (BAL maybe?)
If he would actually rather stay in Detroit being irrelevant than joining a WS contender, he needs to be drug tested or he’s actually a complete idiot.
Worried that he’ll choke under pressure and affect his looming contract negotiations maybe? Lot less pressure finishing out the year in Detroit….
#MidwestIsBest
If I’m the Detroit Tigers I would not be happy with E-Rod. He is away from the team for most of the season last year for “personal reasons” and you’re completely accepting and handle the matter with flying colors. You signed him to a very generous contract with a opt out clause that it appears he will take at the end of the season. Then he turns down your trade to the Dodgers for what would have been 2 months of his life.
They can’t be too upset since they gave him the no trade clause to begin with
And when he was out last year attending to his marital issues and his kids, he didn’t respond to calls, texts, and emails.
And the Tigers refused to pay him for that time.
Regardless, I think he just doesn’t want to play in LA. Has nothing to do with spotlight or playoffs. He’s been in the playoffs. Its not like it would be something he’s never done.
As a lifetime Tigers Fan, I would love to see him gone!
Your comment sounds suspiciously familiar lol
At least give credit to MLB network when you swipe their opinion
twitter.com/diabeticrocksta/status/168649175356451…
He likes Mom’s spaghetti!
He had quite the personal issues and the tigers office backed him 100%.
Perhaps he feels like he wants to stay.
I’m guessing he wants to go to Baltimore. I don’t see where else he’d get traded at this point. Maybe the Giants but if it’s a tax issue then I’m doubtful.
Has anyone ever tried to be an S-Corp or a 501c to get out of Taxes?
What if he just doesn’t like LA the city? That’s probably not a huge deal right? Most of us have places we’d rather not be. Personally though I think he wanted them to guarantee an extension and they wouldn’t pay up.
Maybe LA wanted him to opt in the final 3 years of his contract and he didn’t want to. He’ll definitely get a raise from his current $16.33 million average the next 3 years. What sucks about this for the Tigers is they lose a bit of leverage. Now the Orioles his original team can come in with a low offer and the Tigers will probably take it so they don’t lose him for nothing.
Maybe he wants to go somewhere where he can pitch more than 4 innings a start.
He just gave the middle finger to the Tigers, for not paying him when he was on personal leave last year…Trade him to the As…f him
What a head case jerk. Detroit bent over backwards for you last year and your mental breakdown. You are absolutely opting out and leaving in 2 months.
Detroit sets you up in sunny LA for a World Series ring chance with the Dodgers and he exercises a no trade clause a player of his caliber should never have even had offered.
Guys who pass up winning opportunities like this are huge red flags and Detroit should pick the worst team on his no trade list and give him away.
He did the right thing. Who in their right mind wants to pay insane tax money? Why give away extra money to a crappy state government.
Sad.
Yeah, and he didn’t exactly do his team a solid.
Un F real…I just didnt see this team winning this year even if this diva wanted to come.More holes this year than most of their play off teams in last decade.Time to over pay now
Looks like he ducked the fodgers.
Maybe the D’Backs, GM Hazen used to work front office in Boston while Rodrigeuz was there, just maybe there is a good relationship there for him to ok a trade to AZ.
Don’t understand why Dodgers fans are so pissed… you got the two maybe three best players from the Redsox in Braiser/ JD/ and Mookie ( though jury still out on him)…
Braiser was horrible. He was the best at blowing leads in Boston. Whenever he came in, I shut the TV off and marked it as a loss.
Maybe but that was only games he pitched in… how’s he doing in LA??? He makes Mariano look like… well his before self…
I mean… he has a 10 team no-trade clause and LA is on the list… Whatever his reasons might be, it’s not like this can come as some kind of shock to the Detroit front office…
I’m seeing he has accepted a trade to Atlanta.
Why in the world didn’t Detroit ask him FIRST if he would take a trade or ask where he would NOT go?
They did… He has LA on his no-trade list…
He walks to the beat of his own drum. Seemed like a perfect fit.
He’s pitching well in the role he’s in now with Detroit. Why would he want to change scenery on a cotract year? The Dodgers put starters of his caliber in the bullpen over September and October so that would CRUSH his market value. Not saying he should stay in Detroit, but he should accept a trade that would put him on a contender and immediately slot him into a 2 or 3 slot in the rotation…. come back to Boston!
Awful. Al Avilia’s parting gift, a mediocre player on a player friendly contract. Trade him to Oakland and offer to pay the salary. What a jerk.
ERod wants to opt out. He can pitch in meaningless game after meaningless game for Detroit for the next couple months. No pressure. He can just pitch.
In L.A. he is going to have to PITCH and PITCH UNDER PRESSURE. Why do that? All it does is risk diminishing his value as a FA. He would have to be better than he has been in Detroit and he doesn’t want to risk that.
Honestly, I don’t know what team is going to want to give him a better deal than the 3 years he’s got left with the Tigers in lieu of his….umm…..flinching in the face of adversity. ERod does not want to go out there and beat you. He wants to go out there and cash a big check.
So, the guy takes an unexpected leave during his first season and now he vetos a deal that would help the Tigers? WTF? He should have list his right to veto when he left the team but, oh thats right, Avila was still here. Better get what we can now, this guy isn’t welcomed in the D anymore.
Lol, to funny. Dodger fans god smacked
Having lived in LA and traveled all around the country, I find all the LA hate quite hilarious. The traffic sucks, sure, but it sucks in every city. If you know how to do it, then you can really enjoy the great weather, great food, endless things to do, and all the, uh, beauty walking around.
Or you can pretend that you’re living the best life ever, holed up in Land-Locked Wherever.
Refreshing. Thank you.
Michigan is not land locked
Understood sir. And I believe the state with the most coastline, correct?
No bashing Michigan here, it’s a beautiful place. I have family living in the Detroit area.
What is refreshing to me, is to hear the opposite of California hatred. That’s all
What I don’t understand is E Rod is Hispanic and Spanish is primarily the language spoken in LA. He would be as welcome as could be and day to day life would be easier.
Maybe he prefers the color red…or brown
Have you heard of the Great Lakes?
Tigers players live in Oakland county, one of the richest in the country.
He rejects the Dodgers. HaHaHa
Detroit should keep him and use him for mop-up relief.
Good on Rodriguez – man knows what he wants. I’d bet Baltimore steps up with a late deal much like when he first left the Orioles for Boston.
I think he’s overplaying his hand. He’ll finish the year in Detroit when he could have showcased his talents in the playoffs with LA.
Scotty Harris probably didn’t know ERod had to approve a trade to a team that was on his no trade list. Didn’t he think to ask? I mean, the amount of work involved in making a deal and he refuses to go there. That is embarrassing.
Cohen got a top 50 SS prospect for a 38 year old pitcher with an era over 4.00
Cohen got a top 70 OF prospect for a 40+ year old pitcher.
They had no trade contracts… Cohen talked them into deals.
Maybe E-Rod was ghosting Harris.
He’s been known to do that to a team front office from time to time
What a bizarre comment—as if Cohen wasn’t picking up an obscene amount of salary while burying the Mets for 2024. But, ooh, he got a 50 FV prospect!
Other than that, Mertle…
Michigan state tax = 4.25%
California state tax = 13.30%
Eduardo made the right choice. He has the right to make as much money as possible like everyone else.
Going from paying roughly $2200 in taxes per game to roughly $6800 per game is a no brainer for me. In life it’s always about the money.
You’re probably right, but I just hate California. Opportunity was there.
CA has one of the lowest property tax rates in the US.
Michigan property taxes are much higher than CA.
I can see that you were not a math major.
Again, very misleading.
Michigan has much higher State property taxes than CA.
Rodriguez added
“ I would rather play for one of the worst teams in baseball’s worst division than play for Dave Roberts “
🙁 🙁
Maybe they were insisting on him accepting his option.
You people and your taxes comments really should visit a Scandinavian country and see how taxes can work to everyone’s benefit.
Last time I checked, California was in the US, which is precisely why it doesn’t work. Too much greed and corruption in US government for it to ever be like it is in Europe.
Sorry free enterprise left you behind fake Steph. I’ve done great!
Absolutely. All those Republicans in California have run the state into the ground.
Democrats rule California
@GoTigers, I think that was his point. Sarcasm.
Capitalism is the best system in the world, but this is a baseball site, so let’s stick to baseball, okay?
Maybe that will teach you to rely on yourselves, and not the federal government. That’s how it should be.
I pay 45% in taxes, Stephie. Government gets almost as much from MY work as I do!
So well run that thousands are fleeing with a huge negative tax deficit and rampant crime, taxes and homelessness.
Get a good tax attorney or CPA. Most people should not be paying that much
You are obviously not talking about California. California has a budget surplus, falling crime rates, highest business and job creation in US, and increasing population in 2023.
But then a 12 year old like you wouldn’t know things like that.
California has a $32 billion budget deficit, according to AP News.
Violent crime in California in 2022 was up over 6% from 2021. 2023 numbers aren’t out yet, obviously.
California has the highest population of any state. It would be troubling if they didn’t lead in job creation, especially after all the Covid shutdowns.
California has lost over 870,000 people over the last two years.
You really shouldn’t make stuff up. It’s too easy to prove you wrong.
Over my head…..
CA used to elect Repub Governors, but they were so incompetent that it stopped.
Like Reagan deinstitutionalizing the mentally ill creating a nationwide homeless problem?
!(another “great” Repub idea?!)
Orange County, San Diego County all vote for Democrats now.
C
Supply side and excessive tax cuts for the top have created the vast majority of US Deficits.
Republican Eisenhower had it correct ‘progressive taxation”.
CA is passing Germany as the 4th largest and richest economy in the World.
40M people live in CA
up from 17M 40+ years ago.
CA had a 50B SURPLUS a year or so ago.+
It was given back to millions of CA taxpayers in Tax rebates.
Deficits have to do with swings in high tech industries.
You are “cherry picking” data to suit your own purposes.
Wouldn’t they have discussed this w him beforehand to make sure he was on board?
So you would rather stay in Bagdad then go to a beautiful city with great weather and women galore if you’re single. Also atleast a shot at another WS, WTF Erod geeze
He has a family, maybe the LA lifestyle and society isn’t a fit for them. Not saying its right or wrong, but it was his choice.
I didn’t realize Miami made an offer.
Baghdad or Kabul, not much difference
I hate the Dodgers and California too but for competition sake, ya gotta go to a team with an excellent shot at a championship
May have already been mentioned, but if he opts out they can make a qualifying offer and still get a comp pick if he signs elsewhere. However, he apparently likes Detroit so maybe they can work an extension and keep him. I think ERod and Skubal would be a nice top of a rotation.
He isn’t eligible for a QO because he was already offered one.
On top of that, if I were a player that really liked a team, I would let them trade me and get some prospects back to help strengthen the org, especially if I knew they would likely offer me a deal the next season.
It’s probably against the CBA to officially discuss it, but it’s not like they can’t just say we really want you pitching for us next season ‘wink wink’, and ‘I really want to pitch here next season, particularly if you can somehow bring in some more talent, ‘wink wink’.
Unless the Tigers pivoted quickly to another trade partner, my guess is Rodriquez isn’t exactly the most popular guy in their front office right now.
Whole league is laughing at this loser. Keep being irrelevant in Detroit lmao
For 2 more months? I think he can handle it. He has an opt-out at the end of the season.
Damn, no trade so he will likely walk for nothing. My condolences to Tigers fans.
We’ll take that money and spend it elsewhere. Not a biggy.
Illich will take the money and he will be fine.
Tiger fans will continue to fill the park and root for a AAAA team.
GOOD….FOR….HIM! Remember he went through some mental health issues earlier this year. Prioritizing family over sport is respectable!
I agree, Money – I respect the choice made by Rodriguez.
Oh F that
Dude is a selfish d-bag that ghosted the team and front office all last summer while “dealing with personal issues” that turned out to be vacationing with his wife in the Bahamas.
I wouldn’t put it past him to have given Tigers his blessing to find a trade to a contender only for him to change his mind and nix it.
DET provides world class safe spaces for these poor multi-millionaire athletes
What an ashhole. In 2022 he didn’t respond when Hinch and Avila tried to contact him while on his personal leave. Now he leaves the team high and dry.
Too bad Scotty Harris didn’t know ERod had a no trade option in his contract… maybe he should have tried to trade him to one of the many other teams looking for a pitcher. At least he got a singles hitting 2B prospect for $17 mil he spent on Lorenzen and Boyd to flip.
This is 100% on Harris. Its his job to talk to the agent and know that Erod was not willing to go to the west coast.
It’s only three months before an opt-out unless he’s really unsure how he’ll perform over these three months which could de-rail the opt-out. But highly unlikely. Guy obviously is not interested in winning. Family over winning is fine but this is another data point for his next contract after the opt-out.
Exactly. I’m betting come Free Agency, his agent will need to do some damage control. Especially after he spent a chunk of time last season away from the team because of family issues. Second time he’s invoked them. All things being equal, teams won’t want to deal with the drama.
Players reject trades. that’s their right. Other teams don’t care. It’s why the NTC exists.
It’s just odd to reject it with only a couple of months left in his contract (given the almost guaranteed opt-out) and the opportunity to play in the playoffs. Most players with any competitive drive would jump on that.
Maybe with his mental health issues, he didn’t want to uproot. We’ll never know.
Bhambrave? What mental health issues? Either he cheated on his wife or his wife cheated on him last year, then he went AWOL back to his family for three months.
Mental health was probably the wrong phrase, but his personal life is fragile right now. Moving west might have put a strain on it.
Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if he opts out and retires. Ever since that fiasco last year, baseball just doesn’t seem important to him.
Will never pay for a drink in San Francisco for the rest of his life. Smart man
Smart man? SF is the only bigger sh_t hole than LA.
I’m sure Mobile Alabama is nice this time of year.
Harris should be the least popular guy. He had 4 pitchers to trade and FAILED MISERABLY!!! How the F*#@ do you not pay attention to the players no trade list???? This is your JOB!!!! How do you not talk to your players????? How do you not have any insight into which teams he might waive the option for??? Bring back Avila!!!
Nothing for E-Rod!
Nothing for Cisnero!
Nothing for Shreve!
Just Amazingly Bad Job!
If E-Rod leaves, so what ? We pay him for the rest of the year, then we can take that money, and purchase another FA pitcher in the offseason.
Or, they could have saved paying his salary for the rest of the year, AND got new prospects to add to the farm. Instead, they get nothing.
Detroit’s front office bungled this one pretty badly.
Buck stops at the top. Harris bungled it!
As Cam noted, it’s a big ‘so what’. It’s an absolute failure. I do not see how you don’t see it.
True, but then why do they need Harris. His job was to have that cash available AND a prospect or two. They could just have had someone from accounting running the trade deadline then.
Avila’s legacy soldiers on…
I respect him for wanting to remain close to family. This is a HUGE whiff for the Tigers. Obviously a breakdown in communication somewhere. St Louis got Prieto from Baltimore for Flaherty…I wonder what the Tigers could gave gotten for Erod…Prieto plus something else would be way better than nothing. If he restructures his contract to stay in Detroit I’ll be less pissed. Cross your fingers they got something for their other pending FA bullpen arms because as of now i think this is a D grade return for the deadline.
Nah, we play the rest of the season out. At the end of the year, we see what kind of raise he wants. If it’s too much, we spend the money elsewhere. I’d rather him stay, and play competitive games, than trade him for trinkets, beads and magic beans. Sometimes the best trades are the ones that you don’t make.
True, but its better when its because of what you did, not because you screwed the pooch.
I’m curious how often between his baseball duties in Detroit and on the road he visits this “family” on the east coast.
Maybe a lot. You could ask him.
A lot of whiney Dodgers fans in this discussion. Here’s a reality check: Not everyone wants to live in California.
The whiney comment wasn’t directed at you, Nottingham. It was supposed to be a fresh post at the bottom.
So the Dodgers get to a deal so late to leave no time for somewhere else to turn to obtain a starter? And they didn’t know that LA was on his no fly list? Isn’t that something you discuss first before getting all the pieces in place for a deal? Sounds like a miscalculation that no one would veto a trade to the Dodgers.
Now, the Dodgers fortunes are left with Grove, Sheehan, Miller, and [maybe] Pepiot. If they make the playoffs, it might be an early exit. A lot of effort for very little return. Lynn, Rosario, and Kike. Not nearly enough.
Harris has no clue….More pathetic years for Tiger fans…How You could not move Erod and Cisnero is beyond me…They got vrushed on the lorenzen trade also…The rest of the MLB GMs now know The Tigers have a joke as GM
Getting a team’s #5 prospect for two months of a decent SP is not getting “vrushed!”
Getting Phillies #5 for Lorenzen is not getting crushed. Getting only Phillies #5 when you have E-Rod, Lorenzen, Cisnero and Shreve to trade, is getting crushed!
As they say, “…he had ONE job….”
The Lorenzen deal was good. You’re wrong on that. Right on the Erod deal, or lack thereof
E-Rod appears to be a Very sensitive guy. Wish him well.
Most likely the Dodgers said no when he tried to strong arm them to okay the trade.
I don’t see how he opts into his contract after the season at this point, but good luck on the FA market next time around. He earned the right to exercise his NTC but this is the second time he’s invoked his family as a reason to either not play or not play for a team he was about to be traded to. The Tigers stood by him when he took off a large chunk of last season. Not being willing to play potentially for a WS and spending a couple months on the west coast when let’s face it, nowadays distance means nothing. Especially because he’ll be on the road with his team half the time anyway. I’m betting his agent won’t limit his suitors in FA because they are on the wrong coast. If I’m Detroit I ride him like Seabiscuit down the backstretch the rest of the season. 8 innings each start. Give him the C.C. Sabathia treatment.
He has the right, it’s what he had negotiated into the contract. That being said, Harris should have had a conversation with him or his agent in advance about the no trade clause
@TFfI: They may have. Maybe he had conditions that LA wasn’t willing to meet, or maybe he wanted to be close to his family, and they thought they could pressure him into waiving anyway.
Haha! Braves got Hand from the Rockies and the Dodgers get a middle finger from the Tigers.
E-Rod just cost himself a lot of money. Between his refusal to communicate with the Tigers during his personal leave and leaving the Tigers high and dry today, he has proven his selfishness. He’s not a trustworthy teammate and warrants a discount since he’ll probably find a way to screw his next team as well.
He did what he thought was in his best interest, which he negotiated a couple of years ago. I’m glad he likes Detroit, maybe he’ll resign…..maybe he won’t. If he doesn’t, we get someone else.
Maybe the tigers shouldn’t have implemented a no trade clause into his contract then. You can’t be mad at him for invoking that right. Blame the front office not him.
He did not refuse to communicate in this case. Harris did. E-Rod specified which teams he would not accept a trade to. He was upfront about it when he signed. HARRIS is the one who didn’t read/listen to the information he had readily available, and waited until the last minute. What happened that he didn’t pivot back to Baltimore? I’m sure they would have preferred him to Flaherty. Did he draw such a hard line that they refused to take his calls? Did they offer the same players for E-Rod and Harris demanded more, even though he had no leverage? All we will ever know is that this was a FAILURE!
Well, that is total failure for wonderboy Harris. Can’t trade ERod and only got one playerfor Lorenzen. Then didn’t even try to trade anyone else? Wow, great first trade deadline. And I hope all the Tiger fans voice their feelings on ERod himself. He’s been a real treat for the Tigers. Thanks Al.
The Lorenzen trade was not bad. The Erod thing is mind boggling. I’m interested to see what Harris has to say about it and not trading Cisnero and Shreve. Leone fetched a decent 2B prospect from the Angels who I like. How do you get nothing for Shreve and Cisnero? Honestly that pisses me off as bad as the Erod thing.
No one wanted Cisnero or Shreve…Cisnero has been terrible this past month. Shreve is a low leverage guy
Lorenzon trade was fair…a two month rental for a guy having a hot season, but who has traditionally been average at best
None of y’all consider the fact that he wants to stay close to his family. Y’all think he is just a baseball playing machine and not a human. He doesn’t want to play with the dodgers get over it. It wasn’t to long ago he took a break from baseball all together for a few months. His family and mental health, if that was the case, should mean a lot more than oh yay I’m a dodger I can win more. Good on him for taking his own life and his family’s importance over moving far away from them just to win more games.
Good call. Given that the year is not a shortened season, no chance the Dodgers win a championship. Better to earn your bucks on a team that you’re already on that isn’t winning a championship either.
Sad. Could’ve played 3 months on a winning team. Instead chooses to be with family on the east coast… even though he’s working essentially everyday in August and September,
Harris absolutely f-ed up this trade deadline! One marginal minor league infielder and kept everyone, except our best pitcher currently! He makes AA look better every day, and that’s a chore to do. I was hoping he could get rid of Javy too, but he couldn’t even trade tradeable players so that didn’t happen
Big whiff on Erod, Cisnero and Shreve. I don’t agree about the Lorenzen trade. I like the looks of Lee. Getting Eddys Leonard at the end for cash was good too. I think he can be a good player. No one was taking Baez dude, no one.
Who would want Cisnero who had a 10 plus ERA this month and Shreve has been ok in low leverage. ERod was a complicated matter. Who else did we have to trade?
I agree, Baez is our guy…better get behind him, like it or not
I think he found out what a scumbag cheating organization the Dodgers are during the 2018 World Series. Dodgers cheated against the Brewers, Red Sox and Astros and still lost lmao.
How in the world did the Tiger’s GM not know he didn’t want to go to the west coast?
I wonder who they were supposed to get in return? That’ll be interesting to see when it leaks out.
It makes sense to me. If he was having marital issues as recently as last season, I could see why he would feel like being away from his family for that long could be a problem. Especially if part of the problem was that he wasn’t around enough to help his wife with the kids with all the travel. Players are people just like us and obviously keeping his family together is more important to him than winning baseball games.
Well, I have never said anything bad about Beamer Harris but…..
Tempting, very tempting…… its like.David Ruffin is calling my name…..
LUCKY for Beamer, the Temps.always ,always.put.me in a good mood…until I get sad, that is……
Hire the Superfife, I’ll forgive you…at least for.the time.being…..
Very disappointing day for the Tigers and Scott Harris
How can you be so unprepared?
Failed to admit he needed the Superfifes’ assistance.
Al had the SAME psychological issues. Afraid to admit, they need the Superfife.
Thinks he is that much better than me…..ha
NONE.OF.THESE.GUYS, including.Illich, could handle the things Superfifes have been through…..
Beamer will learn.
Eduardo knows the Tigs are about to go on a 12 game win streak. The central is for the taking!
That was a lose, lose, lose for all parties involved. I was not aware he had a NTC so if it was filled up with West Coast teams, then the DET Front Office has to take some major heat.
They were 19 teams NOT on his list to deal with + where’s the conversations with the agent and/or the player as to his willingness to waive his NTC? Something has gone sideways, as pointed out here E-Rod likely has cost himself some $.
If healthy he’s still going to exceed the guarantee left on his remaining deal but between what happened in 2022 and now this,
“This” will have little to no effect on his FA. That he is not playing the rest of this season on a contender is on HARRIS. That he did not want to go to LAD was in writing, in his contract. As POBO, it is HARRIS’ job to know this. Every other team will know this happened. Every agent will know this happened. He’s a TOR arm, and a lefty. I doubt it will cost him a dime. After the game today, HARRIS was on the broadcast, never indicated that anything went awry, and hemmed and hawed his way around any commitment to working out an extension with him. What a Putz!
Disagree. A true competitor wants to put himself in the best position to win a ring. This definitely hurts him as he remains in DET pitching meaningless games.
I am sure they had dialog with his agent though the process. He could have considered up until he made his decision. Big decisions like these are as cut and dry as they appear, especially if he is taking family and mental healthy into consideration. I respect ERod for being brave and knowing what he wants and whats important to him. I respect the Tigers for standing behind their players through issue like last year with ERod and the entire Austin Meadows struggle and Javy and his struggles. Loyalty can go a long way for some and it appears it has likely has some influence with ERod.
In the end, it’s unlikely the public will know exactly what happened but MLB insiders to some degree will. So if E-Rod finishes the year healthy and effective and ops out, what’s his ask? In total is ~$100M right?
In general what happened with him stepping away in 2021, specifically not staying in touch with the team AND now this… While it does take only one team to pay, you cannot this isn’t a consideration for the market
I guess ultimately we’ll get a clue when the MLBTR staff make their FA predictions and where he lands
The Dodgers apparently made some supplemental offers to the player at the last minute, but the clock had already run down. Pretty much the only comment Rodriquez made was that he couldn’t say what else the Dodgers offered him.
If you were a GM, would you sign a free agent who prefers to pitch in meaningless games rather than with a competitive front runner?
If it truly is about local then why was management informed through trade veto?
1) you would have to spend some time in E-Rods shoes, before making a statement like that.
2) I’m sure both sides knew about the opt out, and his no trade clause. LA probably called with an offer, Harris probably said that sounds good, but I have to ask E-Rod. LA didn’t come up with enough money for R-Rod to forego the non trade clause. Trade over.
Simple.
Detroit Tigers baseball… even our GM strikes out
Guy is soft and didn’t want a poor postseason performance to effect his free agency.
Forgetful guy,forgot.he had 4+ guys to trade……
Traded 1 of 4
That’s as good as Tiger BAs ,.250 = He’d be the #4 hitter on this team…..not bad….
He fits right in.
…..so we’re OK with that…..
Here’s what I believe happened….
Harris has said that E-Rod was part of the negotiations. Either he is lying, partly lying, or he’s telling the truth.
Let’s give the GM some benefit of doubt. After all, you have to assume Harris knows he has a no trade clause to that team.
Yet, at the last second, E-Rod invokes his no-trade clause. Why would that be?
The clues are in his leave of absence last year. He left the Tigers for 2 months to get his marriage on track. Without pay. Clearly, he values his family more than he values his salary. That’s not normal. And, when he addressed his leave of absence to the Tigers players last year, he referenced his family that lives down in Miami. Then, reports came out today that he prefers the east coast over the west coast so can remain close to his family.
Put it all together and this is what you got…. E-Rod screwed the Tigers and Dodgers at the last second. He led them to believe he would accept the trade because he, himself, was prepared to do just that. But, some last minute force came upon the scene and changed his mind.
Having been there and done that, I’ll tell you what that mysterious force was.
His wife.
None of.that stuff was an issue when I was younger. Guys were just dmn glad to have the opportunity to play ball.
Back.then ,being able to support your wife.and family was.more.important.
But the idea of.being hungry without choice is so foreign to us…..the idea of.starvation?
Never would occur to.any of us……
I’m on board with that theory too.
Finish the season in that whack division looking like a stud and get paid next year
Ridiculously bad Trade Deadline for Scott Harris and the Tigers.
Nothing for E Rod and he walks as a free agent?!
Half the teams in MLB wanted E Rod including: Orioles, Rays, Reds,. Cubs, Phillies,
Astros, Rangers. Padres, Yankees, Braves?!
WTF!?
This is a huge fail for the Tigers who had players other teams wanted, but they could not cobble together deals to help jumpstart the rebuild?!
Al Avila had many trade deadlines like the one Scott Harris just had.
Harris didn’t sign him with a no trade clause, that was Avila. If he opts out they can offer him a qualifying offer and will get a draft pick if he signs with someone else. Not great, but it is something.
E Rod is not eligible for a qualifying offer since Boston already offered him one.
It can’t be done 2X.
I’m giving Scott Harris the benefit of doubt. We all knew ERod was on the market so ERod and his agent did too. Both the Tigers and dodgers were ambushed.
I am not buying that.
The Rays, Orioles, Reds wanted E Rod.
Harris should have had back up deals.
We don’t want that cheater here anyways. I still remember when he threw his glove down and cried after giving up that big home run to Puig in the world series.
Wonder boy Harris just got exposed as the inexperienced novice rookie that he is. What a disaster for the Tigers! To have numerous trade chips and only come away with one player that’s at least 3 years away from the majors is unforgivable. This just sets the team back further in their never ending rebuild. It is very hard to be as bad as Avila but Harris is coming close. To have no backup plan for Erod is unbelievable. Other GMs have to be laughing. And then watching Harris stammering trying to explain his screw up and saying they’re happy that Erod is still with the team is pure BS. Stop it Harris! Put your tail between your legs and just shut up.
As for Erod, he screwed both the Tigers and LA big time. The Tigers stood by him when he bailed on the team last year and this is their reward for doing so. Let’s hope he opts out of the final 3 years of his contract. He put a dagger in the Tigers and the fans won’t be forgiving. Expect some massive boos the next time he pitches at home. He needs to be on the first bus out of town. This whole debacle is incredibly disappointing for the team and the fans. We certainly deserve better
I agree with you, but as I said just a few comments above, I don’t blame Harris anymore. He said E-Rod was part of the negotiation. I do believe that to be true. So, Harris was acting in good faith, finalizing the deal, but when presented to E-Rod to physically sign to waive his no-trade clause, he reneged. And, I’ll bet his wife made him do it.
Sounds like growing up in Valencia, Venezuela – he sees similarities in Cali. Anyone whose ever lived in such conditions, and escaped – aren’t eager to return. Not like he can say that aloud, he’d be canceled for being candid.
An argument made up from refrigerator magnets.
What are you going on about?! This is a baseball forum!
Cali is in Columbia by Bogata
California is a Nation-State with 40M prosperous, educated people.
Its booming economy is passing Germany as the 4th largest economy in the entire World.
Sorry, you didn’t have the education and skills to make it in CA.
Those who are less educated and without training and skills, tend to do better
in States that have lower standards.
Dodgers have a three game series at Miami in September. Rodriguez could have seen his family then and there. To my knowledge the Tigers don’t play in Florida again for the remainder of season.
The other interesting thing is that the Dodgers host the Tigers in September. Wouldn’t it be great to see Rodriguez face the Dodgers at Dodger Stadium? I’m sure the Dodger fans wouldn’t hold it against him. Hahaha…
So while Harris is getting heat, he should unless they genuinely thing they can extent E-Rod, you can argue the LAD front office likely should get as much heat if not more. The LAD front office has yet to put together a roster that can run through a full regular season + the post season and have a WS parade. Every year they do NOT, the asterisk* on 2020 gets bigger.
They had Lance Lynn in the fold and nothing else to compliment their starting rotation. Their rotation has been plagued by injury, ineffectiveness and the fact that everyone not name Urias, Lynn, has some workload limitations. But to recap the trade deadline, the LAD and their GREAT farm were outbid on
Lucas Giolito
Jordan Montgomery,
Jack Flaherty
Max Scherzer
Justin Verlander
Michael Lorenzen
now some of the above had NTC and could direct where they went, but still they chose not to go to LAD does say something.
Einstein’s definition of insanity is ” doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results” yet once again the LAD front office is relying on Dave Roberts to “mix & match” his pitching staff to both
1 win the NL West
2 navigate the Post Season to a WS championship
I do not believe Roberts can lead the LAD to a WS win from the Wild Card. He hasn’t been able to win as a #1 seed and in 2021 his mismanagement in the NLDS messed up their staff for the NLCS. Pitching wins in the post season, you can never have enough yet when you point to most all of the LAD post season exits it’s because they ran out of arms.