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Phillies To Acquire Michael Lorenzen

By Anthony Franco | August 1, 2023 at 2:34pm CDT

The Phillies are reportedly acquiring Michael Lorenzen from the Tigers. Infield prospect Hao-Yu Lee is headed back to Detroit.

Lorenzen has seemed a near-lock to be traded for a few months. The right-hander has found plenty of success in his second season since moving back to the rotation. After posting a 4.24 ERA through 18 appearances for the Angels last year, he’s allowing 3.58 earned runs per nine in as many outings this time around.

Signed to a one-year, $8.5MM free agent deal last winter, Lorenzen began his Detroit tenure on the injured list. A groin strain cost him the first two weeks of the season, but he was on the Comerica Park mound by mid-April. He was hit hard in two of his first three outings but settled in nicely thereafter.

Lorenzen has worked 105 2/3 innings, just under six frames per start. He’s not blowing hitters away; his 19.9% strikeout rate and 9.8% swinging strike percentage are each a little lower than the respective MLB averages. Lorenzen has shown much improved control, though, keeping his walk rate at a modest 6.5% clip after handing out free passes north of 10% of the time in each of the previous three seasons.

All told, Lorenzen has allowed two or fewer runs in 11 of his 18 outings. He secured his first All-Star nod as a result. He’s been effective against hitters of either handedness, holding lefties to a .201/.279/.355 line and right-handers to a .274/.293/.381 slash. He’s mixing four pitchers (four-seam, slider, changeup and sinker) with regularity.

The middling whiff rates lead ERA estimators to suggest that Lorenzen’s 3.58 ERA isn’t quite warranted. Opponents have a modest .264 average on balls in play against him, the 10th lowest mark among starters with 100+ innings. Yet even if a few more batted balls drop in and his ERA ticks up around 4.00 (where estimators generally peg him), he’d be a valuable pickup for a club seeking pitching depth.

Philadelphia has a starting five of Zack Wheeler, Aaron Nola, Taijuan Walker, Ranger Suárez and Cristopher Sánchez. They’ll run with a six-man rotation over the next two weeks, tweets Jayson Stark of the Athletic. The club doesn’t have an off day until August 14, so they’ll take the opportunity to give the entire group some extra rest.

At that point, the Phils will likely decide whether to kick one of Lorenzen or Sánchez to relief. The latter has stepped up to solidify an uncertain fifth starter spot over the past month. He’s worked to a 2.66 ERA with average or better strikeout, walk and ground-ball marks over nine starts. The depth behind him wasn’t particularly strong, though. Bailey Falter struggled mightily early in the year. Andrew Painter underwent elbow surgery. The Phils have been reluctant to push minor league righties Mick Abel and Griff McGarry into a pennant race too quickly.

As a result, they’ll beat the market for one of the top rental starters still available. Lorenzen is due around $2.79MM in salary through season’s end. The Phils have already exceeded the second tier of luxury tax penalization. They’re going to surpass the CBT for the second straight season. As a result, they’re taxed at a 42% rate on additional spending up to the $273MM third threshold. Roster Resource calculates their current CBT number just above $262MM.

They’ll pay around $1.17MM in taxes to accommodate Lorenzen, bringing their expenditure to around $3.97MM. Lorenzen would also tack on $250K in performance bonus (also taxed at a 42% rate) for reaching 125, 150 and 175 innings (with further incentives available but likely unattainable). Lorenzen will head back to free agency at year’s end, when the Phils will hopefully feel more comfortable breaking Abel and McGarry into MLB action.

As for the Tigers, their signing of Lorenzen worked out as intended. Rebuilding teams take one-year fliers on veterans of this ilk every offseason with an eye towards a midseason trade. Rarely does it work out as effectively as it did for Detroit. Lorenzen was always an unlikely qualifying offer candidate, so they’ll indeed flip him for a prospect of interest.

Lee, 20, is a right-handed hitting second baseman from Taiwan. He has been at High-A Jersey Shore, hitting .283/.372/.401 through 285 plate appearances. Lee is walking at a quality 10.2% clip against a modest 18.6% strikeout rate. He’s only hit five home runs but has stolen 14 bases in 17 tries.

He recently ranked eighth on Baseball America’s ranking of the Phillies’ farm system. As his slash line suggests, BA’s report indicates he’s a hit-over-power player with a shot to stick in the middle infield. Below-average arm strength and range make him a best fit for second base. While the hit-focused second baseman is a tough profile to pull off, Lee’s minor league production is solid. He won’t be eligible for the Rule 5 draft until after the 2025 season.

Jon Morosi of MLB.com first reported the Tigers and Phillies were nearing a deal that’d send Lorenzen to Philadelphia while getting Lee back as part of the return. Chris McCosky of the Detroit News reported the deal was agreed upon and would be a one-for-one swap.

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  1. jeff51488

    2 years ago

    Wow

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    • deweybelongsinthehall

      2 years ago

      Going for a big park to a bandbox, this is not the move I’d have made (granted I don’t know the Phillies minor league system).

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      • Idosteroids

        2 years ago

        He’s never pitched more than 113 innings in a single season in his 9 year career, granted time was spent in the bullpen for a few. Hes up to 105 innings so far this year.

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        • Churchill’s Pancakes

          2 years ago

          They got him to play LF.

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          2 years ago

          Smart move given their present corners.

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      • Ham Fighter

        2 years ago

        Lee was the Phillies number 4 prospect in system

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        • DakotaJoe

          2 years ago

          #5

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        • mlbtrsks

          2 years ago

          #6 @ Fangraph and #8 @ BBA, but regardless, it says a lot about a very weak farm system when your #6 is probably future organizational depth.

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      • Heinouanus

        2 years ago

        He played for years at the reds ballpark, lirerally the smallest in mlb. Got used to pitching in a shoebox

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      • UBIK

        2 years ago

        He’s actually been significantly better on the road than at home this year, and has allowed 7 of his 11 HR this year at Comerica.

        Lee is a decent but not blue-chip prospect, but hasn’t exactly excelled this year (he’s been… fine. Still quite young). He might’ve started the year as the Phillies #5 prospect, but he was probably more like their #9 prospect as of yesterday.

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      • Dumpster Divin Theo

        2 years ago

        Meh-hopefully the trade ages better than this post

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    • Dumpster Divin Theo

      2 years ago

      What’s he gonna do, pitch a no hitter? Don’t see that happening no weigh no howe

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  2. AL B DAMNED

    2 years ago

    Of course, and AA ..Crickets!

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    • 10centBeerNight

      2 years ago

      Exceptional move by the Phightin Phils!

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      • YourDreamGM

        2 years ago

        Love it for Philly. Legit playoff arm. Much better than Thor last year.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          2 years ago

          While I agree, it’s debatable if he’s better than Sanchez, the Phils 5th starter who has a 2.66 ERA. Sanchez likely gets pushed out of the rotation here, and I’m not sure that makes them better. Deeper? Definitely.

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        • YourDreamGM

          2 years ago

          Deeper is good. Don’t know about innings limits and such with them. I trust Dave at this point.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          2 years ago

          Yea. He’s earned that for sure.

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    • Braves_saints_celts

      2 years ago

      We got Brad Hand though! Best deadline ever!

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      • DakotaJoe

        2 years ago

        Hand is not very good, but the Braves are already scary good!

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    • Jesse Chavez enthusiast

      2 years ago

      Why you’re doubting Anthopolous after all this time is beyond me. He wins almost every trade he makes. He isn’t going to overpay and panic for players. Lorenzen is typically a league average pitcher as a starter, although he is having a good year. Take a deep breath, there is still time.. and if he doesn’t make a move, the braves are still 30 games over .500

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      • Braves_saints_celts

        2 years ago

        I’m not panicking, and I have full trust in him and this braves team. We have fried coming back and our bullpen is getting healthier. We honestly don’t need to make any moves. I was just joking around lol. It would be nice to see some guys coming in to fill the very few holes this roster does have, but if not, no biggie, we have the top record in the league for a reason.

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      • Rexhudler86

        2 years ago

        Loki has only been a starter for two years that’s why he chose the angels last year the reds had him as a reliever and spot outfielder.

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    • YourDreamGM

      2 years ago

      That’s what Philly fans had been saying about DD.

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    • Hemlock

      2 years ago

      AA knows what he is doing. They don’t need Lorenzen. Trust the process.

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    • kma

      2 years ago

      AA turns his paper in early. He’s done.

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      • Jesse Chavez enthusiast

        2 years ago

        Donny, Last year he acquired Iglesias with 1 minute to spare

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    • Letsplaytwotomorrow

      2 years ago

      AA surely doesn’t know what he’s doing.

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    • Dong Drysdale

      2 years ago

      Of all the GMs to be critical of, you pick AA? Touch grass.

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  3. This one belongs to the Reds

    2 years ago

    Ugh

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    • AM21

      2 years ago

      Yay?

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      • This one belongs to the Reds

        2 years ago

        Hate to sound like a commercial but I like Mike. I wish him well.

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  4. acoss13

    2 years ago

    Hey not bad, Phillies could use another starter and Tigers get some value out of a rental piece.

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  5. Milwaukee-2208

    2 years ago

    Can start and also can slot into the pen for the playoffs. Trades like this don’t jump off the page at you but they do make a difference

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    • siddfinch1079

      2 years ago

      The man can even pinch hit if need be!

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      • Armaments216

        2 years ago

        Or cover the OF. He’s a legit defensive replacement. Just that it’s maybe not worth the injury risk to use him there.

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  6. Red Wings

    2 years ago

    Will Nick Maton be part of the deal, returning to the Phillies?

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    • Rsox

      2 years ago

      Unfortunately Dombrowski told Harris “no-givsies-backsies!”…

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    • not alkaline

      2 years ago

      Or Baez?

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    • GarryHarris

      2 years ago

      I don’t see anything from Maton.

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  7. bhannah8213

    2 years ago

    top 4 prospect for Lorenzo’s? interesting…

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    • Tigers3232

      2 years ago

      I would have thought a top 4 prospect for Lorenzen would ve been nuts prior to this season. He has had a pretty good season tho and should strengthen a contenders rotation.

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    • For Love of the Game

      2 years ago

      Interesting? I’d call it shocking! The price of poker has definitely gone up!

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    • Marc H

      2 years ago

      Seems steep

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      • Tigers3232

        2 years ago

        Giolitto got 2 of Angels top 3 prospects. Considering their #s this year are pretty close, although Lorenzen’s are slightly better. Doesn’t seem steep at all, it’s a sellers market this year.

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  8. fre5hwind

    2 years ago

    Noooo I liked Hao Yu Lee.

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  9. Motor City Beach Bum

    2 years ago

    Kid looks pretty solid. Their number 5 prospect and bound for 2B.

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    • Tigers3232

      2 years ago

      He’s only 20, by time he comes up he might take over SS and force Baez to 2B. Either way I’m happy they got a middle IF that appears to have a bright future ahead of him.

      Hope Lorenzen does well in Philly, he is hard to not root for.

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  10. Gmen777

    2 years ago

    Zaidi you awake?

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  11. YourDreamGM

    2 years ago

    See what else is going back. Lee isn’t too painful on his own. Excellent bat ball but low on power and a 2b. Right handed Adam Frazier is my comp. Steal some bags though.

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  12. shortstop

    2 years ago

    I still can’t believe the Angels didn’t push harder to bring him back as a free agent. This became even more apparent when Suarez turned into a pumpkin.

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  13. AL B DAMNED

    2 years ago

    The Braves cannot count on Fried AND Wright coming back and staying healthy. Lorenzen made sense for Braves. AA keeps snoozing on all pitching trades! Brad Hand? had one good year and it’s not this year. Hasn’t been in Closer or high leverage role for a while.

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    • YourDreamGM

      2 years ago

      They don’t expect him to be a closer. He will get lefty bats out.

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      • Dong Drysdale

        2 years ago

        Don’t be logical here. Just gotta hate. Duh. Hand is an upgrade to the non-existent lefty they have in the pen right now.

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    • Dong Drysdale

      2 years ago

      These takes wow. Save it for Reddit.

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    • Bucsfan4ever

      2 years ago

      Fried is fine and will only get stronger. Wright is a maybe. Minter is back and Chavez will be back soon too. Hand is ok but Barger was too much to give up. I have seen Barger play and he is the real deal. He could have been up in the majors by 2025. The Braves should have traded one of their many not so good Latino pitchers that they keep wasting their time and resources on. Yeah they Braves will win the NL East. Then they will have their hands full in the playoffs. The Braves have holes. Morton is so so, Elder is a weak link, Strider gives up too many home runs, and the bull pen is like a sweating bottle of nitro glycerin as it can, and does ,blow up often. The Braves also rely too much on the home run and not enough emphasis on getting on base. My money is on the Braves losing to the Dodgers in the NL Championship series. Dodgers then lose to either the Rangers or Astros in the World Series

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      • Slow day at work

        2 years ago

        Barger was gonna need Rule 5 protection this winter, so the Braves would probably lose him for nothing anyway.

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    • Balzenuf

      2 years ago

      you autta throw your hat in the ring for his job…

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  14. whosehighpitch

    2 years ago

    Good now trade Nola for something because he stinks as of late and doesn’t seem to be getting any better

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    • cpdpoet

      2 years ago

      Some takes should simply stay in your head…..

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      • Churchill’s Pancakes

        2 years ago

        Yeah. That defense was really bad last time out.

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  15. VonPurpleHayes

    2 years ago

    I like the move, depending on what they gave up, but really their offense stinks due to struggling stars. They need an OF bat.

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  16. This one belongs to the Reds

    2 years ago

    The kid GM is napping too.

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    • YourDreamGM

      2 years ago

      You got the Moll Man.

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  17. tork the dork

    2 years ago

    heard nick abel was in the deal too

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    • cpdpoet

      2 years ago

      …bring back the downvote….

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    • rellime 2

      2 years ago

      Looks like 1 for 1

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      2 years ago

      He was not. It’s a 1 for 1.

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      • CityofChampions

        2 years ago

        This isn’t a very pricey acquisition here. Lee is a bat first 2B who is still in the low minors. Detroit needs to flip rentals for guys like that but that’s a pretty easy yes for DD.

        The pitching market has been quite expensive. Lorenzen hasn’t gone deep into a season as a starter in his career so there is the risk he wears out but you have to like bolstering the depth for that team.

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  18. Cora the Destroya

    2 years ago

    Not a bad trade but it’s not needle moving.

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    • YourDreamGM

      2 years ago

      It is for Philly. Impact starter.

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      • Cora the Destroya

        2 years ago

        This year- maybe, but overall he’s above average but not fantastic. It’s not like Verlander or Scherzer but I suppose any bit helps and that’s not always the goal to get the best pitcher. They have to hope his ERA holds out.

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      • VonPurpleHayes

        2 years ago

        But the Phils pitching has been stellar. They can’t score runs. So this isn’t needle moving, but addresses depth.

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        • Cora the Destroya

          2 years ago

          Aaron Nola has an ERA over 4.00. I would know, he’s on my fantasy team. I wouldn’t call that “stellar.”

          I highly doubt Phillies go as far as they did last year.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          2 years ago

          Right, but Nola isn’t the guy that gets replaced here. Look at the other starters. All solid, including Sanchez. This doesn’t move the needle, but it does address depth in case guys need injury or rest. Wheeler was exhausted last year.

          As for topping last year, I mean it’s tough to get to the World Series again. So your prediction is likely accurate, but on paper this is a much better team than last year.

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        • Cora the Destroya

          2 years ago

          I suppose- just pointing out their best pitcher has struggled this year. I loved their run last year, I just don’t think their pitching is that elite.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          2 years ago

          Compare it to last year. It’s vastly improved even with Nola’s struggles. Their offense is the problem.

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      • SteveVP

        2 years ago

        Lol no it isn’t.

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  19. TroyVan

    2 years ago

    My question is: Why has his development been so slow?

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  20. DarkSide830

    2 years ago

    nasty

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  21. BucksPackersBrewersWow!

    2 years ago

    Hi Hao, Hi Hao
    It’s off to Detroit we go
    Phew phew phew phew phew phew phew
    Hi Hao, Hi Hao Hi Hao Hi Hao

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  22. King Floch

    2 years ago

    I was pretty sure Lorenzen was going to be our (Orioles) guy, but apparently not. Not too broken up about missing out on him. He’s not sexy but he’s solid. Good pickup for the Phils.

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    • Motor City Beach Bum

      2 years ago

      Erod is still available

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  23. MPrck

    2 years ago

    Maybe the Yankee’s go big, with E-rod, Baez, and Foley. Well, after Clark, and no quick trades a few weeks ago, you kind of figured we’d be rolling in the deadline ending hour.

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    • Motor City Beach Bum

      2 years ago

      That better be for Wells and Sweeney.

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    • SteveVP

      2 years ago

      This isn’t about the Yankees. They stink. 1926 is over.

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    • HatlessPete

      2 years ago

      The last thing I want is for the yanks to get baez. We have enough guys on suspect high dollar deals as it is.

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      • Motor City Beach Bum

        2 years ago

        But WE want you to get him 😉

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        • HatlessPete

          2 years ago

          Lol and if wishes were cows we’d all be eating a lot of steak.

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        • mlbtrsks

          2 years ago

          Well, balony perhaps, if it’s from cows who are past their milking prime.

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  24. brooklyn62

    2 years ago

    So hate the Phillies…

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    • BadlyBent

      2 years ago

      I sprinkle your hatred on my hoagie for extra deliciousness.

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      • brooklyn62

        2 years ago

        Cheesey taunt.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          2 years ago

          Wiz wit

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      • cpdpoet

        2 years ago

        Just reading the word hoagie makes me happy…it is NOT a sub.

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  25. 10centBeerNight

    2 years ago

    Strong confident move by PHI. Playing to win

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  26. stylesofpunk

    2 years ago

    I like this move for Detroit solid INF prospect for Lorenzen seems fair

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      2 years ago

      Agree. This kid looks good. If he pans out, Phillies will regret this.

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      • cpdpoet

        2 years ago

        He’s a bat first 2bman w/o power. He’s kinda blocked by Stott as well.
        Like the Marsh deal last year, Phils deal from a little depth and this allows them to go with a 6man rotation for the rest of the month.

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      • SteveVP

        2 years ago

        He’s a second baseman. Phillies have a young guy named Bryson Stott

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      • PHILLYSP3CIAL

        2 years ago

        What world do you live in where you think this kid was ever going to wear a Phillies jersey?

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          2 years ago

          He doesn’t need to play for the Phillies, but he was traded for a rental starter. Bit of an overpay, but I’m cool with it.

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  27. ThonolansGhost

    2 years ago

    I was hoping for someone closer to MLB ready, but Lee is a good prospect.

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  28. Devlsh

    2 years ago

    Flaherty next up, though there’s some local talk now that Stl may issue him a qualifying offer and overpay him for a year to help fill the 2024 rotation, so the team only has to pursue 1-2 starters in the offseason vs. 2-3.

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  29. Billg7987

    2 years ago

    He’s an ok pitcher having a career year. He may flame out. But, the Phil’s haven’t given up much for him, so if he does fail, it’s not a huge loss. If his success continues, this could be the difference between making and missing the playoffs. Good trade.

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  30. Troy Percival's iPad

    2 years ago

    “A groin strain cost him the first two weeks of the season, but he was on the Comerica Park by mid-April.”

    Does anyone have a picture of what sign he was hanging off of like King Kong? Someone should sell it to Topps for his baseball card

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  31. jgoody62

    2 years ago

    Defensive sub for Schwarber in LF

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    • Captain Dunsel

      2 years ago

      Pache will have that job if Schwarber is not DH.

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    • Churchill’s Pancakes

      2 years ago

      @goody Sorry to say but some people don’t understand some well placed sarcasm these days.

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  32. cadagan

    2 years ago

    In Lee, I don’t see the 55 hit tool. Or especially the 50 grade power. Yet he keeps getting graded such.

    But he’s still only 20-21 though,after signing when he was 18.

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    • mlbtrsks

      2 years ago

      Nowhere did I see a 55 hit or 50 power; he’s only 20, so it’s a bit early

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  33. Edd 2

    2 years ago

    Not a fan for the Phillies. Kid they traded is a good prospect and he got traded for a mediocre 5th starter ?

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    • Motor City Beach Bum

      2 years ago

      Not this year he’s not. This year he’s a number 3 or 4 at worst.

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    • dkhits20

      2 years ago

      @Edd2… He’s not flashy but he can give you 6-7 innings and that’s not cheap this time of year.

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    • PHILLYSP3CIAL

      2 years ago

      Where is he going to play for the Phillies? Does anyone on this site go back and look at past deadline moves? You’re lucky if two of the guys moved today ever make an impact at the MLB level.

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  34. nailz#4life

    2 years ago

    I thought the headline would be, Phillies acquire “All Star Michael Lorenzen” ! Please re-do and make this exciting. !!!

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  35. Luke Strong

    2 years ago

    Scott Harris got great value out of a worthless asset. FanGraphs shows Lee was PHI #6 prospect with 40+ rating. Sure, still a lotto ticket, but seems like a pretty decent one.

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  36. briar-patch thatcher

    2 years ago

    Another trade that makes absolutely no sense for the organization acquiring the player of interest.

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  37. MPrck

    2 years ago

    Hoping for moving Baez, and E rod in any way possible, hitters and bullpen too.

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  38. SeeUonTheUlnarSide

    2 years ago

    Good for Phillies fans. He is going to be quite necessary, as Walker is due for his yearly August implosion.

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      2 years ago

      Leads the league in wins. Mets burnt him out. He was a number 2 for them at times with deGrom and Scherzer being down. Phillies have a deeper rotation and solid bullpen. He hasn’t gone as many innings. I think there’s a significant chance he has a solid August. But you could be right.

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      • SeeUonTheUlnarSide

        2 years ago

        The Mets had him for 2 years, totalling 58 starts and 316 IP.

        That’s not a very large workload for a SP. Less than 6 IP per outing.

        Walker’s August issues existed in Seattle. The sinker starts floating in the second half of the year.

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    • mikeyst13

      2 years ago

      Lorenzen is 8 innings away from his career high, which he threw in 2015 as a 23 year-old. reported that some teams were worried that he too may wear down and have a late season implosion. Already people suggesting he’ll be more of a swingman/long reliever. Sounding like Philly will start with a 6 man rotation for now.

      Reply
      • VonPurpleHayes

        2 years ago

        6 man seems to be the way to go to keep these guys fresh.

        Reply
    • cpdpoet

      2 years ago

      Shhh, no one in Philly is talking about that…..
      It’s the 12 win Walker….

      1
      Reply
  39. MPrck

    2 years ago

    What a sweetheart deal on Verlander, Astros pay only less than 30 million for 2 1/2 years !!!! Steal deal of the century !!

    Reply
    • VonPurpleHayes

      2 years ago

      I think you took a wrong turn somewhere.

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      Reply
  40. For Love of the Game

    2 years ago

    Nice value-for-value swap.

    3
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  41. warnbeeb

    2 years ago

    While Lee is “currently” a Philly Top 10 prospect he is still at least 2-3 years away from the big leagues. Tigers just drafted 2, likely, 2basemen in McGonigal (3 years away) and Anderson (maybe 2 years away). In addition, Wenceel Perez is 1-2 years away and the Tiger’s current #8 prospect. Colt Keith could be in Detroit, if not this year, next year and he is 50:50 to be at 2nd or 3rd. Then there’s Jace Jung, their #2 prospect, who is on the same track as Lee, 2025 to be in the bigs.

    I’m guessing one of them will be an every day 2Bman. Tigers have a ton of middle infielder prospects all of a sudden.

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    • Motor City Beach Bum

      2 years ago

      Starting to look like the Orioles. That’s prospect capital right there for future trades!

      Reply
      • Rightout

        2 years ago

        Prospect Capitol that no one wants from Tigers

        Reply
        • Motor City Beach Bum

          2 years ago

          Right no one wants highly rated middle infield prospects who you obviously didn’t take the time to do any research on. Good call.

          Reply
      • The Saber-toothed Superfife

        2 years ago

        Dude, they’re spiking your KoolAid…
        .

        Reply
  42. MPrck

    2 years ago

    MLB.TV, thank god for that because the A.L west will be a blast to watch this fall. Detroit will be better next year no matter what happens today. I’m just glad to be able to watch the good games that are coming in the West.

    Reply
    • mlbnyyfan

      2 years ago

      Holmes and King are better than this guy. What the F is Cashman doing??

      Reply
  43. Balzenuf

    2 years ago

    I guess the cigars think that they are still in it…

    Reply
  44. Yeshua

    2 years ago

    Now the Phillies can trade Nola since he won’t be re-signing

    Reply
  45. wileycoyote56

    2 years ago

    Not impressed with Tigers haul on this one. This prospect is a yawner, no upside to speak of, probably a career minor league player.

    1
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    • ThonolansGhost

      2 years ago

      MLB Pipeline sees him as a potential every day MLB player, sixth highest rated prospect in the Tigers system.

      1
      Reply
  46. Rightout

    2 years ago

    Tigers got a bench player at best for Lorenzen….Scott Harris is over his head…Domrowski schooled little Scottie yet again

    2
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    • Motor City Beach Bum

      2 years ago

      I’m good with both returns Harris got from the trades with Philly. Lee looks good and Vierling has worked out just fine even if Sands and Maton haven’t yet.

      1
      Reply
  47. Motown is My Town

    2 years ago

    Horrific trade for the Boy Wonderless Harris…May as well as gotten a dozen bats and 2 dozen balls as the Tigers would have gotten more value from those items vs the stiff they received in return. What a fricken joke

    Reply
    • Motor City Beach Bum

      2 years ago

      He has good stats and reviews. Whats your problem with him. You act like they picked up a guy hitting .150.

      1
      Reply
      • ThonolansGhost

        2 years ago

        Yeah, Lee has a lot of potential. I really don’t understand the hate.

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  48. The Saber-toothed Superfife

    2 years ago

    Another wait and see…..
    Of course, the Superfife is a proponent of packaging…..and yes, of course, I would have gotten a much better deal but once again, nothing says this guy can’t play, another guy who, “deserves a chance”.

    Hire.the Superfife. I’m a hell of alot more interesting than this guy….and a lot of fun. Ask Yamamoto. Who drinks Sake?

    Reply
  49. theo2016

    2 years ago

    Bonus he’s a good hitting pitcher

    Reply
  50. GarryHarris

    2 years ago

    Some things remain the same: DD winning trades and the Tigers acquiring IFs they don’t need.

    Reply
    • ThonolansGhost

      2 years ago

      Detroit did very well in the Vierling trade. Too early to tell with Lee, but he could very well be the Tigers second baseman of the future.

      Reply
      • GarryHarris

        2 years ago

        It is to be arly to tell but he’s a hit first low range defensive 2B. I like his OB potential but Detroit WAS a pitching organization and needed defenders.

        Reply
  51. htbnm57

    2 years ago

    Good thing because Nola is their 5th best starter

    Reply
  52. htbnm57

    2 years ago

    Maybe the Phillies are going with a six man rotation now so everyone gets plenty of rest.

    Reply

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