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Latest On Framber Valdez

By Anthony Franco | December 18, 2023 at 8:57am CDT

Dec. 18: At least six clubs have reached out to the Astros to check in on Valdez’s potential availability, writes Bob Nightengale of USA Today. Houston isn’t actively seeking to trade Valdez but has at least listened to offers on him.

Dec. 15: Front office personnel from opposing teams are “monitoring” the possibility of the Astros trading star left-hander Framber Valdez, writes Ken Rosenthal of the Athletic. The 30-year-old is coming off his second straight top 10 Cy Young finish.

It’s unsurprising to hear opposing clubs are keeping their eye on Valdez. He’d be an upgrade for any rotation in MLB. He has reached 31 starts in each of the past two seasons, leading the American League with 201 1/3 innings back in 2022. Valdez has paired that volume with excellent results, working to a 3.40 ERA over parts of six seasons in the big leagues. He has allowed 3.13 earned runs per nine over the past three years, striking out 23.5% of batters faced and keeping the ball on the ground at a massive 63% clip.

Given that level of success, plenty of teams would be interested if the Astros put Valdez on the trade market. There’s no indication the Houston front office is seriously entertaining that possibility at this point. In response to trade chatter about third baseman Alex Bregman, Houston GM Dana Brown flatly shot down the idea at the Winter Meetings, saying the team is “trying to win here.”

The club could take a similar stance on Valdez. He’s arguably the best pitcher on a team with championship aspirations. Houston’s rotation is solid but has taken some injury hits in recent months. Luis Garcia and Lance McCullers Jr. are each expected to miss roughly half the season as they rehab arm surgeries. The Astros reacquired Justin Verlander to join Valdez and Cristian Javier in the rotation’s top three. José Urquidy joins second-year pitchers Hunter Brown and J.P. France as possibilities at the back end.

Any argument in favor of a Valdez trade is tied to Houston’s payroll outlook. Roster Resource projects the club for a payroll around $222MM, well above last year’s approximate $180MM Opening Day figure. They’re projected right at the $237MM luxury tax threshold, which they haven’t surpassed since 2020. Dana Brown has been rather forthright about the limited money at the front office’s disposal.

MLBTR contributor Matt Swartz projects Valdez for a $12.1MM salary in his third of four arbitration seasons. With a typically strong season, he’d likely be in line for something in the $18MM range in 2025. Valdez is on track to hit free agency during the 2025-26 offseason at age 32. Brown has previously expressed a desire to extend key players like Valdez, Bregman, Kyle Tucker and Jose Altuve. Thus far, the second-year GM has only worked out a long-term deal with Javier, although there’s a general expectation they’ll be able to get something done with Altuve at some point.

While a trade of a veteran on a notable salary would provide some payroll flexibility, it’s worth noting that Houston doesn’t have a ton of needs on the roster. The Astros replaced Martín Maldonado with Víctor Caratini behind the dish. They appear content with their in-house outfielders despite losing Michael Brantley. While they could stand to add middle innings depth after seeing Hector Neris, Ryne Stanek and Phil Maton hit free agency, trading Valdez to create spending room for a low-leverage relievers wouldn’t make much sense in the short term. A deal could recoup controllable pitching and add some talent to a barren farm system, but it’d be at the expense of a win-now roster.

One less impactful possibility would be to entertain offers on Urquidy. He’s only projected for a $3.5MM salary, so the cost savings would be fairly modest. Yet the front office could look to move him on the heels of an injury-plagued season in which he turned in a 5.29 ERA across 16 appearances. Rosenthal notes that the Astros have looked to trade Urquidy on prior occasions. The return wouldn’t be anywhere near what they’d receive were they to move Valdez, of course, but a deal that sends Urquidy to a rotation-needy team for bullpen help isn’t far-fetched.

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  1. Old York

    1 year ago

    Could be a decent piece to add to the Dodgers rotation. They seem to need help.

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    • texasbug

      1 year ago

      Dodgers Dodgers that’s all I hear no way

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    • Shadow_Banned

      1 year ago

      Sheesh yeah well take Framber, he has balls of steel. We need players like that not choke artists.

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    • 99CaptainJudge99

      1 year ago

      Yeah if they don’t sign Yamamoto

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    • Wrian Washman

      1 year ago

      Yes they need so much help right now how will the Dodgers survive

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    • GOAT Closer Esteban Yan

      1 year ago

      I’d hate to see him go if for no other reason than to see his first pitch to Adolis Garcia or Marcus Semien in spring training. With him and Maldonado gone, will there be any bad blood left between the Rangers and Astros?

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  2. ohyeadam

    1 year ago

    .01% chance he’s traded imo

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    • User 401527550

      1 year ago

      Astros are going to be going to be rebuilding in the next couple years.

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      • Shadow_Banned

        1 year ago

        Rebuilding? They were 1 win away from the World Series.

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        • stymeedone

          1 year ago

          That was in the past. He’s talking about the future. Players age and contracts expire. That’s just the reality.

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        • jjd002

          1 year ago

          And they have been saying the same thing for years – yet they continue to end up in the ALCS year after year.

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    • iml12

      1 year ago

      He was really bad in the playoffs and down the stretch. I wonder if the Astros see something that they don’t like.

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  3. BillMueller326

    1 year ago

    Is he the guy that takes 20 mins between pitches? Zzzzzzzzzz

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    • marrtho

      1 year ago

      Wait til you hear about this new thing called a pitch clock

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      • BillMueller326

        1 year ago

        Go on!

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    • Bart Harley Jarvis

      1 year ago

      Not quite 20 minutes, but he does enjoy playing with his hair between each pitch.

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    • Your daddy

      1 year ago

      Is anyone worse then Kershaw when it comes to taking their time to pitch?

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  4. Wren

    1 year ago

    Dodgers are in

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    • Big whiffa

      1 year ago

      Dodgers are out. What do they possibly have to offer ?

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      • User 4095290658

        1 year ago

        Players to be named in 2033.

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  5. Jonny5

    1 year ago

    Yes, I’m sure the Astros are going to trade their best pitcher.

    How about an article about Gerrit Cole possibly being traded next? It has the same likelihood of happening.

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    • Rocker49

      1 year ago

      If you ever watched baseball you would disagree with your statement lol. Dude was horrific after throwing his no-hitter. The time to sell on him is now, before his value starts going downhill. 2 years left would get a hefty return to a farm system with absolutely nothing. This is a move the Astros NEED to do!

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      • Jonny5

        1 year ago

        It’s hard for me to take anyone seriously when they end a sentence with ‘lol’
        And I’m sure I’ve watched far more baseball than you, son.

        A quick glance at his stats will show that in his last 10 starts (after the no-no), 4 of them were bad, 6 of them were good. Not horrific by any measure.

        They still have enough talent on their roster this season to compete for a ring, why throw in the towel already?

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    • User 401527550

      1 year ago

      The Astros are going to be torn down soon. Their farm is depleted and they can’t sign future free agents. They might not have a choice.

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      • Beff Jagwell

        1 year ago

        You are spot on.

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      • eichejt0570

        1 year ago

        It’s funny how you and the MLB keep saying the Astros have a terrible farm system but yet they have had a player in the top 5 for Rookie of the Year in like 8 of the previous 8 years!

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        • User 401527550

          1 year ago

          What’s that got to do with the current farm system?

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        • j_butte

          1 year ago

          Farm rankings crack me up. I’m a Braves fan so I’ll use them as an example…The Braves have churned out so many quality players that were never on a top 100 list anywhere, while simultaneously watching plenty of top guys never produce in the big leagues. Because I’m probably the oldest guy here, I’ll use the recent example of Michael Harris versus Christian Pache to prove my point.

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        • steelerbravenation

          1 year ago

          Harris was a Top 100 prospect.
          The problem with the Braves farm ranking has been the fact they move their guys up too fast for them to catch up. You see AS-S is Top 50 & he already has his feet wet in the bigs.
          Most of the prospect rankings come about off potential rather than production.
          Pache always had worries his hit tool wouldn’t catch up to his defense.

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        • User 401527550

          1 year ago

          Yes let’s use the Braves as an example. Acuna was ranked as top prospect. Accurate. Riley was top thirty prospect. Not bad but he’s out performed. Fried top ten prospect. Accurate. Albies. Top ten prospect. Accurate. Harris was top 100 and has exceeded expectations as previous poster has pointed out. Not sure where your complaint on Brave evaluations is at.

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        • Your daddy

          1 year ago

          It means rating prospects is hard and you should stop listening to espn for your info. How high was Chaz rated on prospect lists? How about Luis Garcia? Yordan is signed long term tucker probably follows Dana Brown already said he wants to extend Bregman. The Astros dropped the dead weight in Krusty Dusty and Maldy while giving a stud like Yainer Diaz the starting catcher spot. Maybe you should worry about the Mets not repeating 2023 before pretending to be a farm expert

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        • Your daddy

          1 year ago

          Was Strider ever ranked high on any lists? If not that’s all you need to know about rankings that dude is a beast

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        • Your daddy

          1 year ago

          If it was that easy to predict baseball wouldn’t the Mets have won it last year with that all star team which was the highest payroll in baseball history? Oh wait Mets were out of contention by the summer

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        • Dynasty

          1 year ago

          Awful post #1

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        • Dynasty

          1 year ago

          Awful post #2

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        • Your daddy

          1 year ago

          Troll post #1

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        • Your daddy

          1 year ago

          Troll post #2

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        • Ignorant Son-of-a-b

          1 year ago

          Okay who is trolling who now?

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        • User 401527550

          1 year ago

          I don’t get you all. I just pointed out the Brave were all highly rated and panned out and you’re still gripping.

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        • User 401527550

          1 year ago

          He was a relief pitcher. That’s on the Braves.

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    • James123

      1 year ago

      I could see the Os make a big offer on Cease and get turned down- and make the same offer for Frambler.

      If you want mlb ready talent that either just reached or is knocking on the door of the bigs- the Os have a ton of that. Joey Ortiz, Connor Norby, and throw in Austin Hayes (as he may be without a home next year) and i think you have an offer the Os could live with and the Stros would take.

      I throw the Os out there- as they are the team with a ton of MLB ready prospects, and need to cash in those chips before they become 26 year olds that have never made it to the bigs (Ortiz is about to become that guy)- where they are no longer prospects, and what you are doing with them will be what everyone else values them as.

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  6. Manfred’s playing with the balls

    1 year ago

    Stros see what the Rays got for 1 year of Glasnow and are interested in what they could get for Valdez. Makes sense. Chi should be looking to move Cease too. If not this winter, then at the deadline. They can restock more prospects that they desperately need.

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    • Rocker49

      1 year ago

      You are 100% right, Astros need to trade Framber. It’s their only hope to restock some young talent they do not have coming up. Framber is a head case, and was horrible after throwing his no-hitter. The time to sell is now, otherwise in a year they will be kicking themselves.

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      • Your daddy

        1 year ago

        Okay so let’s say they trade Framer to restock the farm like you suggest. What does their rotation look like? Garcia and McCullers are out until the all star break they are saying so the rotation is Verlander, Christian Javier who was terrible last year, Hunter Brown, JP France and ???

        Yep seems real smart for the Astros to trade one of the stop pitchers in baseball so they can use some AAAA pitcher like Brandon Bielak consistently during the season.

        Point proven no chance the Astros trade framber

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        • stymeedone

          1 year ago

          I would assume that the young pitcher they get back in the deal would take that 5th spot.

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        • James123

          1 year ago

          The value of MLB ready guys like that is super high. I could see a team like the Os be happy to trade Ortiz and Norby in a package for Frambler, but would balk at their less heralded pitching prospects like McDermott and Povich being included.

          Everyone needs pitching all the time.

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  7. omar salazar

    1 year ago

    trade framber, tucker, bregman and verlander. let’s gets some cheap talent back. we are not gonna win it all next year. might as well build a young team around alvarez and christian.

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    • ❤️ MuteButton

      1 year ago

      I can’t say for sure that I agree with you. But I do agree they need to commit to one direction or another. Going in halfway and trying to tread water is a way to eventually sink.

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      • Your daddy

        1 year ago

        How are they going halfway? They were 1 win away from the World Series. All they had to do is win 1 out of 2 games at home and unfortunately they failed. Now sure the quotes coming out about Jeff Bagwell and Reggie trying to push the organization away from analytics is sad to hear but the Astros are still a top 5 team in baseball. Who’s better in the AL? Orioles okay hell I’ll even give the defending champs the Rangers their due and include them. So 2 teams are better and you guys think now is the time to sell everyone? I know the Astros have been on an amazing run but don’t forget the 3 100 lose seasons in a row. You really want the Astros to follow the rockets lead and be the worst team for 3 years ?

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        • stymeedone

          1 year ago

          Rebuilding happens to every team that doesn’t ignore the CBT thresholds. No one wants it to happen. It just does.

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        • James123

          1 year ago

          At least baseball now discourages it. i think you now cannot pick in the lottery 3 years in a row or something like that. So getting 3 top 5 picks in a row will not happen anymore. After your 2nd you need to be thinking about contending.

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  8. Cody1981

    1 year ago

    Makes sense to the Royals

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  9. Jake Biggar

    1 year ago

    So the Astros who are contending are just going to trade their best starter lol

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  10. Joel P

    1 year ago

    I can’t see any scenario where the Astros trade Valdez. None at all.

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    • Big whiffa

      1 year ago

      How bout to boston or SD ? There’s been some decent pitching gobbled up by small markets. That’s going to leave some large markets looking to add pitching when they get passed over by guys left on FA market.

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  11. User 1939973770

    1 year ago

    I really hope they trade him. He’s not that good, had one lucky season. Keuchel 2.0

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    • Astros2017&22Champs

      1 year ago

      Keuchel 2.0? Keuchel averaged 89 on his heater. Framber throws his 2 seamer at 94 and it can touch 96. He complements it with a filthy curve. Ask the Phillies about it. Head case? His teammates adore him. His biggest problem is melt downs. But the guy pitched over 200 innings last season. That’s unheard of nowadays

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      • User 1939973770

        1 year ago

        That’s cool – he also lost us the 2021 WS and the 2023 ALCS. He needs to go. He’s trash.

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        • Astros2017&22Champs

          1 year ago

          That WS he won us in 2022 doesn’t matter in your feeble mind? Interesting. I wonder what starter you approve of? Sandy Koufax?

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        • User 1939973770

          1 year ago

          I literally said one lucky season. Can you read?

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        • Astros2017&22Champs

          1 year ago

          He’s pitched well 3 straight seasons. Every star pitcher fails in the postseason. By your standards zack wheeler, aaron nola, gerrit cole, kershaw, fried, scherzer, etc, all suck. Your feeble brain is shocking. It’s like you demand perfection. Replacing framber with a prospect is stupid. Its baseball. Guys struggle. They rebound.

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        • Astros_fan_in_Aus

          1 year ago

          You know nothing about pitching do you ?

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        • Unclenolanrules

          1 year ago

          Too many Playstation GM’s now.

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        • User 401527550

          1 year ago

          But he got you there. Fans can be so ungrateful.

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  12. Beff Jagwell

    1 year ago

    I feel the exact same way. The return on those 4 would be significant and could be impactful immediately. I think the window has closed and this sets them up to compete long-term.

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    • Astros2017&22Champs

      1 year ago

      Do you pay attention to the Astros? Their window is open. They just have to figure out who to extend. Too many young players on the team. 7 straight ALCS. It will be 8 next year. Book it

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      • User 401527550

        1 year ago

        The Rangers have that division locked up for the foreseeable future.

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        • ReyDay

          1 year ago

          No they don’t their pitching isn’t that strong even with DeGromm coming back. Max is another year older your bullpen is below avg. Also Evoldi is a hit or miss guy every year with injury concerns. The hitting will carry but I don’t trust Rangers pitching at all

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        • Your daddy

          1 year ago

          The rangers didn’t even with the division in 2023…

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        • stymeedone

          1 year ago

          They do? Most of the pitching staff isn’t available until July.

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        • Blue Baron

          1 year ago

          @Mets6986??: Careful not to fall for the last year’s winner fallacy. Every year, people overrate the previous year’s winners based on recency bias.

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      • Beff Jagwell

        1 year ago

        I am a season ticket holder, I’m just not a homer. The team is aging and money is tied up in poor investments (Abreu, Montero, Pressley, etc). Bregman will be gone next offseason, Tucker the year after. If they wanted to sign extensions, they already would have.

        The Astros farm is depleted and there is no one coming up to replace any of the pending FAs. Tucker has no interest in an extension, and it’s obvious.

        The window is closing fast.

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        • astros_fan_84

          1 year ago

          Those 3 players amount to about 60M total. Maybe they’re overpays, but they aren’t closing the window.

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        • Beff Jagwell

          1 year ago

          Those were just examples of excessive money. An injury to Tucker, Alvarez, Bregman, or Altuve is something this team isn’t built to endure. There is literally no one to step up and provide even league average play in a lengthy absence of any of those guys. Pitching is already stretched very thin due to injuries, so any additional injuries and they are forced to put a huge risk in the injured person’s spot.

          This team has zero depth in the lower levels that could step up immediately. I love the Astros, but I’m also intelligent enough to understand the dangerous spot they are in standing pat. But, they will do it so it gives the average fans the virtue signaling that they are “going for it,” so they will still attend games.

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        • astros_fan_84

          1 year ago

          The astros are a top pick to win the AL according to Vegas. They are supposed to be going for it. The window will eventually close and, at that point, tough decisions will need to be made. But that’s not this year.

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        • eichejt0570

          1 year ago

          They suffered injuries last year to Alvarez and Altuve that took both of them out of the lineup for long periods of time and endured. What are you talking about!

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        • eichejt0570

          1 year ago

          Pressly, might want to learn how to correctly spell his name, gave up 0 earn runs in the 2022 playoffs and the 2023 playoffs. How is he a “poor investment”?

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        • Blue Baron

          1 year ago

          @astros_fan_84: They’re only a top pick in Vegas because a lot of people are willing to take low odds to bet on them.

          Sports books set odds as low as they can to attract bets. It’s just pricing and has nothing to do with the team’s actual chances of winning.

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        • Your daddy

          1 year ago

          Who is better in the AL Blue balls? Orioles and Rangers that’s it

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        • Blue Baron

          1 year ago

          That’s not the question. The real question is who will be better NEXT SEASON.

          It could be any number of teams that get hot and/or have things break right for them.

          We don’t know yet, and that’s why the games are played.

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        • Your daddy

          1 year ago

          Okay a fair enough in your opinion what teams this coming season will be better than the orioles the rangers or the Astros?

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        • Blue Baron

          1 year ago

          Don’t know yet. Again, that’s why the games are played.

          A year ago, who thought the Dbacks and Rangers would meet in the World Series?

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        • stymeedone

          1 year ago

          The healthy team.

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        • Your daddy

          1 year ago

          You can make an educated guess come on man.
          In the west you figure Astros rangers mariners have a chance

          In the central well okay that division is probably wide open but whoever comes from it is probably knocked out in the first round

          In the east the orioles are scary and the blue jays depending on the moves they make.

          So potentially 5 teams with a chance in the AL

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        • Your daddy

          1 year ago

          Muted

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  13. texgal01

    1 year ago

    Brown does not want to get rid of anyone. Thinks we going WS next season. I see that Rangers lost Scherzer till possibly mid season as he had back surgery. Their rotation will be Jon Gray, Heaney, Dunning, Eovaldi at this point. Mid season June or later might have Scherzer, De Grom, Tyler Hynle the just got. But all this talk of Framber being traded, Bregman and Meyers are baloney to Dana. Says we need them to take to WS .

    If Framber and Javier flop again and Verlander age shows more we are in real trouble. Beyond that we have no pitchers. Brown whether turns it around. France talk of him to bullpen. McCullers as well when returns looks to maybe go bullpen with his injury issues. Whitley as well if makes roster. I am not banking on this rotation.

    Hitters Bregman needs to step up, Peña, Abreu, Chas and Meyers. Chas and Meyers are not good as our outfield. Houston is not using Dubon in outfield. They still high on nobodies Chas and Meyers. Even with Chas in more some last season he did not impress me fully. He had moments and some good defense. Meyers has defense. Doubt he improves and if stumble out of gate who knows. Will Rangers even survive if do not get Montgomery or such.

    But doubt Framber will be traded. Espada says no and Dana

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    • Beff Jagwell

      1 year ago

      I think they are delusional if they really think this is still a championship team. Aging stars, no great youth on the horizon. Trade high leverage assets and retool quickly.

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      • Joel P

        1 year ago

        Window is still open dude. The team traded away prospects at the deadline last year. Went to the ALCS. No reason to blow it all up now.

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      • CamFrost

        1 year ago

        They were 1 game from the WS this year.

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        • letsplaytwo

          1 year ago

          The Astros were also two games from finishing in third place in the division.

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      • Astros2017&22Champs

        1 year ago

        Tucker and yordan 26. Javier 26. Urquidy 27. Hunter 24. Pena 26. Brian abreu 26. Bregman 29. Either youre a troll or you just dont follow or understand baseball dude

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        • User 401527550

          1 year ago

          And they can’t sign them when they become free agents.

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      • User 1939973770

        1 year ago

        I really think they need to make a decision whether to overpay for Bregman’s decline or to trade him while he’s worth something. They should also get whatever they can for Urquidy and Valdez, or trade Brown instead. We cannot depend on Urquidy/Valdez/Brown. That is far too volatile.

        I wholeheartedly agree – no great youth on the horizon. They need to acquire some AA/A+ talent

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      • eichejt0570

        1 year ago

        You are a joke. They were one win away from winning the World Series. Yes they would have easily beat the D-Backs anyone who made it through the AL would have.

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    • User 355748524

      1 year ago

      Agree 100% with you. It just feels like injuries have robbed this team of the starting pitching when they need it most be it this year or 2021. 2022 we finally had a healthy rotation and this year we had to rely on the unproven youth and while the results COULD have been worse..they could have been better too.

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      • clubberlang

        1 year ago

        The Astros were 5 wins away from hoisting another championship banner. People can keep sleeping on Houston. I won’t.

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        • letsplaytwo

          1 year ago

          The Astros were lucky mot yo finish in third place this season.

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        • Beff Jagwell

          1 year ago

          The Astros were also close to missing the playoffs. You guys can be homers all you want and cite player ages, but that’s just hilarious. You have to sign them long term or their age doesn’t matter. Tucker and Bregman will be gone, so get something for them. Leverage your assets and retool, so you aren’t left having to rebuild.

          I’m a real Astros fan, not some homer who is an obvious fan girl that doesn’t understand the long game. The farm is barren, the MLB talent is adequate, and not top tier anymore. It’s time to RETOOL.

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    • User 1939973770

      1 year ago

      Chas McCormick was just as good offensively in 2023 as Cody Bellinger. This myth that he isn’t a good hitter is absolutely stupid, and really need to be put to bed.

      Here’s a fun comparison of one beloved Astros OF versus McCormick 2023:

      .270/.361/.491 131 OPS+
      .273/.353/.489 130 OPS+

      And it isn’t limited to 2023, McCormick has hit since he was optioned to AAA in June 2022. For 692 PA’s, .270/.356/.465 for a 130 wRC+.

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      • Beff Jagwell

        1 year ago

        I am unsure why people say McCormick isn’t good. I also think he’s a very solid hitter. He won’t be an all star, but he’s quite good.

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        • User 1939973770

          1 year ago

          He strikes out too much is the only knock on him. But the value is there.

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        • eichejt0570

          1 year ago

          Aaron Judge was the leader in Striking Out in 2017!

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    • Your daddy

      1 year ago

      Chaz is a top 10 CF even with Krusty Dusty hating on him last year? Girls don’t know sports

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  14. RyanD44

    1 year ago

    Pitchers with forearm issues scare me. Bieber and Framber both had forearm issues last year and just happen to be on the block.

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    • rundmc1981

      1 year ago

      Don’t forget about Fried (July ’23).

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  15. letsholdemandgohome

    1 year ago

    “There’s no indication the Houston front office is seriously entertaining that possibility at this point.” (trading Valdez).

    Then I’m a little perplexed why it is even a story. Hot stove must be cooling off I guess.

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    • Astros_fan_in_Aus

      1 year ago

      Agreed. Any story writer who says Houston replaced Maldonado with Caratini clearly hasn’t been paying attention.

      Reply
      • Your daddy

        1 year ago

        Didn’t even notice that. Shame on you Anthony Franco for forgetting about the myth, the legend, the hero Yainer Diaz. He is such a stud how did Krusty keep him on the bench so much??

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      • stymeedone

        1 year ago

        Diaz was the starter at the end of the year. Maldonado was the backup.
        Therefore Caratini is replacing Maldonado.

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    • Big whiffa

      1 year ago

      I think they are looking for people to click read and comment. Seems to be there business model

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  16. kylek58

    1 year ago

    This is such an empty headline. This report was made up just to get clicks, there is no way Valdez gets moved.

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    • Unclenolanrules

      1 year ago

      Haha advertising works and you’ve been exploited.

      Have a Coke™️

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  17. Rocker49

    1 year ago

    LOL at the people saying Framber is the Astros best starter. Those are people who don’t watch baseball :))))))

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    • TrumboRedux

      1 year ago

      Ssttfffuuu Rocker you sicko!

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  18. TrumboRedux

    1 year ago

    This guy is the nastiest pitcher I have ever seen. He isn’t going anywhere!

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    • Beff Jagwell

      1 year ago

      Then you’ve seen about two pitchers.

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      • TrumboRedux

        1 year ago

        Sorry bud, I know supreme filth when I see it! Framber will notch at least 2 or 3 CY’s before he hangs up the spikes! Why are you trolling though?

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        • Beff Jagwell

          1 year ago

          So when someone doesn’t agree with you, that makes them a troll? And he won’t even have 1 CYA when he’s done.

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      • TrumboRedux

        1 year ago

        I think when you initially disagreed with my assesment of Valdez, that you bluntly told me I’ve only seen “2 pitchers.” Because I didn’t agree with you right?

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        • TrumboRedux

          1 year ago

          Wouldn’t that constitute a “troll comment?” Or do you still think I’ve seen merely 2 pitchers?

          Reply
        • Beff Jagwell

          1 year ago

          No, it’s called sarcasm.

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        • TrumboRedux

          1 year ago

          Me deeming you a Troll was sarcastic too..Truce…

          Reply
        • Beff Jagwell

          1 year ago

          We shall put the weapons away and combine to fight a greater enemy!

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  19. Astros2017&22Champs

    1 year ago

    Framber is our best starter lol. I cant even comprehend how u dont think thats true. JV is still very good. But framber is our ace

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  20. Cora the Destroya

    1 year ago

    They jinxed him about being healthy… it usually hits pitchers at some point. He might be fine, but you never know. That wouldn’t prevent me for trading for him, but I figured I would just say they’re jinxing him

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  21. wvsteve

    1 year ago

    Stros are wild card team at worse. They just need to stand pat after they add a few BP arms get to the deadline and see what they need. They got another run or two left

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  22. Mehmehmeh

    1 year ago

    The only way the FO would move Framber is if the relationship with him has fallen apart behind the scenes and he has made plain that he will not sign an extension. There’s nothing public to indicate this, aside from his personal catcher quickly being shown the door this off-season.

    Personally I think it would be selling low after last season & postseason. Framber will benefit from learning to manage himself under the pitch timer and also from working with a C possessing actual framing skills.

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    • stymeedone

      1 year ago

      They would move him if they found he’d been partying with Wander.

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  23. WSnotAstros2017

    1 year ago

    Framber is no Ace material. Neither is Javier. Verlander is aging. He might have a fair season.

    I doubt trade him but at deadline they may have to look for a lot.

    This team may be lucky extremely lucky if reach top.

    Maybe due to Rangers if they do not have the pitching with what they have going in to this point and what could be mid season or later.

    Angels doubt show much with Trout aging and his injury woes has had. No Ohtani etc.

    I still think will be a miracle with Chas. He has not impressed me enough for a full season. Yes he has a push then fumbles. Then another little push. But nothing I would bank on.

    He may surprise this season.

    Meyers: I definitely think should have gotten rid of.

    But we shall see if all the hype lives this upcoming season.

    All the hype last season didn’t live up. Take Framber and Javier thinking they Aces they are not.

    Then at deadline what do you do get Graveman and Verlander who were very mediocre. Graveman was hurt. But still I see a lot of question marks

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  24. jhomeslice

    1 year ago

    Over the past two years, Valdez averaged 200 innings, which was more than anybody other than Cole and Mikolas during that time. The Astros made it to the ALCS for the 7th straight year and are clearly in “win now” mode. If they traded him it would create a huge hole in the rotation. It’s hard to fathom anything they could trade Valdez for that would make them better, or that they would deal him for even very good prospects. He’s a horse, pretty damn good on a team that wants to win now. I’ll believe he gets traded when I see it.

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    • Beff Jagwell

      1 year ago

      They may claim to be in win-now, but they are no longer the team to beat. The lineup is questionable when Pena, Abreu, Meyers, and McCormick are taking up 45% of it. Pitching staff has an aging HOFer, Framber the head case, inconsistent Javier, and a bunch of constantly hurt guys. Pressley is overrated, and the rest of the bullpen is meh.

      Trade Framber now while his value is still high.

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  25. AllinTX

    1 year ago

    Makes more sense to trade Verlander.

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  26. astros_fan_84

    1 year ago

    The people saying “trade for prospects” need to tell me which prospects they’d like back. Since 2015, the astros have been adding win-now pieces almost every year.

    The only impact player the team would have regretted trading was Josh Hader. Other than that, there isn’t a single trade that haunts the franchise.

    I’m all for a strong farm, but I think trading impact players for prospects is far more risky than most fans think.

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    • Beff Jagwell

      1 year ago

      The Orioles have a ton of high ceiling, top prospects. Star there.

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  27. stroh

    1 year ago

    Stros are not trading Framber.

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  28. Astrosfn1979

    1 year ago

    The Astros will struggle to compete for a wildcard in 2026, but as of now they are the best team in the AL for 2024.

    They have 8 potential all star position players.
    They have 2 healthy aces, 2 healthy mid rotation starters, 2 healthy #4-5 starters and 2 guys who should be top 3 starters who will be healthy after the all star break. They have 2 of the best relief pitchers in baseball then a bunch of guys who need to step up.

    That adds up to a World Series contender.

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  29. Beff Jagwell

    1 year ago

    This might be the biggest homer response I’ve seen yet. You claim they have 8 possible all star position players?? Who?? Alvarez, Tucker, Altuve, Bregman, and who?? Diaz is a maybe. Pena isn’t an all star. McCormick and Meyers are certainly not all stars. If you say Abreu, you should delete your account and sign off permanently from the internet.

    You also claim they are the best team in the AL, well the Rangers just won the World Series (). I think that makes them the favorites. Yankees made moves to greatly improve as well. Baltimore is probably better than the Astros too. Am I seriously the only Astros fan alive who isn’t a massive homer that thinks the team as currently built is a true contender??

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    • Astrosfn1979

      1 year ago

      1) Jose Altuve – no explanation needed.

      2) Yordan Alvarez – no explanation needed.

      3) Kyle Tucker – All MLB (2nd team) for the 3rd year in a row in 2023 @26 yrs old.

      4) Yainer Diaz – 55 catchers had 150+ PA in 2023 and Diaz’s 170 wRC+ as a catcher last year was best in MLB.

      5) Alex Bregman – He was 4th in AL in wRC+, 3rd in fWAR, and in a contract season.

      6) Chas McCormick – 51 players had 150 PA between LF and CF last year and only Mike Trout had a higher wRC+ in the AL and he plays very good defense and Steals Bases.

      7) Framber Valdez – has been in the top 10 CY Young voting 2 consecutive seasons.

      8) Ryan Pressly – 2 time all star still one of the best relief pitchers in MLB.

      9) Justin Verlander – still effective, biggest name on team and already a HOFer.

      10) Bryan Abreu – will be 27 and his stats are ridiculous. He may be the best relief pitcher in all MLB.

      So tell me which 3 of them have no chance to be am All-Star and why.

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      • Astrosfn1979

        1 year ago

        Sorry. My fault for not remembering my own post or reading your response thoroughly.

        The 7th and 8th position players with a chance to be all stars are.

        7) Jose Abreu – 2020 AL MVP who had a first half beyond terrible, but was good after his back issues were addressed, great in the post season and ended up w/ 103 RBI in 152g including the playoffs. If he is healthy he can be an all star

        8) Jeremy Pena – glove has never been an issue. Struck out too much as a rookie but reduced Ks to 18.3% in 2nd half last year but lost all lift on the ball despite still having hard contact. Kerp the K reduction butcadd the piwer back in. This is the year he puts it all together – 20+ HR and 115 wRC+, and GG defense.

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        • Beff Jagwell

          1 year ago

          Jose Abreu is no longer anywhere near all star level, and Pena isn’t a top 5 AL shortstop, so he can’t be considered an all star. He may not even be top 10 in the AL.

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      • Beff Jagwell

        1 year ago

        Everyone “has a chance,” but you can’t play hypothetical until they actually put up. McCormick, Diaz, and Abreu all COULD BE, but aren’t. They could all also flop mightily.

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        • Astrosfn1979

          1 year ago

          I never said any of them ARE all-stars, not even Altuve or Alvarez.

          I simply said they have a chance, and I sincerely believe all 8 have a chance, but I freely acknowledge some are much more likely than others.

          As for those you mentioned :

          McCormick WAS a top 2-3 centerfielder in the AL last year. And that was with a manager actively working to keep him down.

          Diaz was the best catcher in the AL per game and per PA last year. Again, his manager sabatoged him.

          As for Pena, you are right that he has not been a top 5 or 10 SS but he is still young and improving has won a gold glove and been the best player in baseball for 3 weeks in October-November 2022.

          Abreu is older. But maybe the sun can shine for another few months. He was great in September and October.

          Let’s see what happens over 162 games

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    • Astrosfn1979

      1 year ago

      Fangraphs has them listed with the most potential WAR in the AL, even after NY got Soto.

      Winning last year has nothing to do with being the favorite this year.

      The Rangers still have lots of pitching to replace, are hoping several players repeat career years, and are relying on a couple very young inexperienced players to replace veterans.

      The Yankees are very top heavy and not deep. They have Judge, Soto, Cole and a bunch of average to mediocre guys.

      Orioles are still thin and inexperienced in the rotation.

      Mariners have taken an average lineup and made it worse.

      Blue Jays lost multiple starting position players from a wild card team and not replaced them.

      I think the Astros have the best, most well rounded team in the AL.

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  30. JoeBrady

    1 year ago

    I’m not quite sure why we need an article to explain why a trade of Valdez is unlikely.

    But that said, any time a contender is looking to trade an SP, they likely know something you don’t know.

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  31. Htown_smack

    1 year ago

    Trading Bregman, Tucker, and Valdez would rebuild the barren farm system and help the Astros remain in contention longer. It makes sense rather than letting them walk with nothing in free agency or worse yet paying them huge long-term contracts based on past performances.

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    • Beff Jagwell

      1 year ago

      Shhh, you cannot introduce logic here. It will trigger and offend the weak ones.

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    • Astrosfn1979

      1 year ago

      The team can either try to win another World Series in 2024 and, with slightly less chances, 2025 or make a trade and hope to stay competitive longer.

      In the next two seasons, Altuve, Bregman, Tucker, Framber, Verlander, Pressly, Urquidy, Graveman, Montero, and Jose Abreu will all be FA with only Altuve expected to be brought back and a barren farm system.

      Without a trade, they don’t make the playoffs in 2026 and probably longer

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      • Beff Jagwell

        1 year ago

        Again, you guys are going to trigger the feeble ones who don’t understand that!

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  32. This one belongs to the Reds

    1 year ago

    I am laughing reading some of these comments. Most teams would love to have this guy.

    Thanks for the laughs this morning. I needed that.

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    • Beff Jagwell

      1 year ago

      EVERY team absolutely would, which is why the Astros should strike while the iron is hot!

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  33. Footjoyboi

    1 year ago

    Astros were extremely close to winning back-to-back World Series. Literally feet away…Bregman hit in Game 1 a few feet right of being the potential game winner. Games 3, 4, 6 and 7 of ALCS were blowouts, but Games 1, 2 and 5 could’ve gone either way and the winner of the ALCS was essentially World Series champion guaranteed with Diamondbacks being on deck. They had a crappy easy out with Maldonado which is now resolved and everything essentially the same. Window is open until Bregman and Tucker hit free agency, and even then they might decide to stay with the Stros since they are so engrained in the city, not to mention those HEB commercial revenues.

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    • Beff Jagwell

      1 year ago

      Bregman is 10 months away from free agency.

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  34. steelerbravenation

    1 year ago

    All things being equal health wise I would much rather the Braves trade for Framber than Cease.
    Only thing is the forearm & his regression after the no hitter last year would worry me.
    I really think once Yamamoto, Montgomery & Snell all come off the board Burnes & Bieber get traded the White Sox are gonna lose the value they believe they have in Cease & the Braves will get him for nowhere near the return the White Sox believed they would get.

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  35. Jagsmanohman

    1 year ago

    Chris Getz has entered the chat and doodied in his pants

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  36. rundmc1981

    1 year ago

    AA loves to do deals with old friends, and he hasn’t connected with former head scout: GM Dana Brown, so LFG! Give em some 8K cameras and call it a day!

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  37. WSnotAstros2017

    1 year ago

    I am an Astros fan no matter. Was even with their 3 seasons of over 100 losses.

    But I do have questions.

    Hitters: Bregman he can hit and play D. But last season he had more downtime with hitting. No guarantee he is going to rip cover off this season.

    Pena: He was great his rookie season and such but did not materialize last season.

    McCormick is ok but still not the best of outfielders.

    Meyers: Since his injury a couple seasons ago has not been the same. Now not sure if the injury was cause or if he just went south. But he is no full time CF either.

    But him and McCormick can take over for Maldonado and stink at bottom of lineup.

    Abreu: Will he rebound. Some say his back issues could have hampered him but not sure. Yes picked it up very late but still questions. He will have another season and then we could be looking at need for 1st base regularly soon. Depending on what he does this season to see if his 3rd year is or isn’t

    Altuve: Will retire in Houston So will extend him

    Tucker: Will have a couple seasons left then be gone am sure.

    So could have 1st and 3rd and maybe SS to be looking at possibly after this season. and maybe Outfield totally if not sooner

    Pitchers: Framber and Javier are questionable. Granted had a good showing first month or so. But after flopped rest of season. Javier was great in playoffs but Houston was not. Javier didn’t have it in the game that decided Houstons NO WS Fate and Rangers moving on. They wanted it and more.

    Brown has not proven himself. He has the stuff but whether he turns it around
    Urquidy: Is no ace or anything. Think he is bullpen as he gets into trouble after 2 or 3 innings.

    France: IF gets moved to bullpen perhaps.

    McCullers: Looking at bullpen for him too

    Garcia: 2nd half of season or later so not sure what will have. Will he be what he was.

    Verlander: What will he have this season. Could be his last unless he gets his innings that will guarantee him for 2025
    We let him walk to start lasat season and thought Framber and Javier were tops when won WS in 22 so we will be ok. We were not even with them. So had to get Verlander again as his Mets season didn’t pan out.

    Bullpen: Montero, Pressly, Abreu and Graveman. Coleman??? and all the others we had up and down lasat season. Whitley???

    But we shall see what all comes. I just think seeing what a player/pitcher does one season does not guarantee it for more seasons and beyond.

    I just wonder with Management/Ownership and more too. Since Luhnow we have not had anything big our way. Him going out and getting Verlander and other things. I still look on him for some of the good things.

    Click: Questions with him.

    Ok off my soapbox. I just hope this team comes out better than last year and a lot more this upcoming season

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  38. thomasg1951

    1 year ago

    Crane is more concerned with diversity

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  39. Cleon Jones

    1 year ago

    Valdez for Luzardo straight up

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    • Beff Jagwell

      1 year ago

      Astros laugh hysterically and hang up.

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  40. jvent

    1 year ago

    Valdez and Bregman to the Mets, if they want to reduce payroll and get younger, for Baty, Parada, Jarvis, Butto and a SS prospect. If Yamamoto doesn’t sign with the Mets, then trade for Burnes ( Vientos, Jackson, Allan and a SS prospect).

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    • Beff Jagwell

      1 year ago

      Mets could be a good fit.

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  41. padam

    1 year ago

    I’d move Bregman and Altuve before Valdez. Valdez’ pitching style lessons the chance of injury and he’s clutch. At 31 I see him pitching effectively for the next 4-6 years. Doesn’t rely on heat, and precision with deception is top shelf. Sprinkle in Verlander for a full year and the story may be different at the end of the season.

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