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Latest On Jordan Montgomery

By Steve Adams | February 9, 2024 at 1:35pm CDT

Many Rangers fans have thought throughout the offseason that an eventual reunion with left-hander Jordan Montgomery made good sense and would represent the team’s big splash in free agency this winter. Reporting connecting the two sides has been sparse, however, outside of general speculation on the strength of the fit and the Rangers’ need for durable innings. Evan Grant of the Dallas Morning News casts even more doubt on the Rangers’ chances of re-signing Montgomery in his latest mailbag column.

Grant has written previously that a deal between the two sides doesn’t seem likely, though some Rangers fans might’ve hoped that the recent resolution of the team’s television situation for the 2024 season might bring about a long-awaited agreement. A deal still feels like a reach, Grant suggests, rightly pointing out that given the team’s current luxury tax status, Montgomery would likely cost the Rangers more than $30MM this season. Texas will be a second-time luxury payor this season and already has $243MM of projected luxury obligations, per Roster Resource. They’ll pay a 30% tax on any dollars up to $257MM, plus a 42% tax on the next $20MM they spend.

That outlook doesn’t necessarily mean the Rangers can’t bring in Montgomery under any circumstances, but the team has operated with a good bit of financial restraint throughout the winter. Signing Montgomery would mean pushing their 2025 contractual commitments to around $160MM a full year in advance and would give the Rangers well over $100MM in guarantees on the books as far out as 2027. (Currently, they have $94.5MM committed to the 2027 roster.)

Furthermore, WEEI’s Rob Bradford reports that the Rangers haven’t been “actively involved” in Montgomery’s market for some time now due to the lefty’s price tag. Again, that doesn’t close the door entirely, but it’s another indicator that a Rangers/Montgomery reunion is hardly the fait accompli that some have suggested it to be.

If not Texas, there are a handful of other teams that have been connected to Montgomery — the Giants, Angels, Yankees, Red Sox and Phillies among them. Jon Heyman of the New York Post writes that the Angels remain in contact with Montgomery and agent Scott Boras (who also reps Blake Snell). The Angels currently project for a $173MM payroll — about $40MM shy of last year’s franchise-record mark — and are nearly $50MM from the first luxury tax threshold. Owner Arte Moreno has historically avoided long-term deals for pitchers, however, and Heyman suggests he’s yet to green-light his front office on the addition of a pitcher of this caliber.

On the Phillies, specifically, USA Today’s Bob Nightengale wrote recently that several executives around the league suspect the Phillies may be waiting to see if the price point on any of the remaining top-tier free agents drops to the point where they can make an opportunistic addition.

That’s largely speculative from what seems like a series of non-Phillies sources, but it’s worth noting that Philadelphia president of baseball operations Dave Dombrowski at least alluded to something along those lines in a radio appearance on Wednesday. Dombrowski noted that he’s happy with his rotation and with his lineup but also wouldn’t definitively rule out making another addition if the circumstances become favorable enough: “I can’t tell you that somebody doesn’t fall into your lap at some point where you say, ’Gee, that’s an opportunity we can’t turn down,'” the Phillies’ president stated on 94 WIP.

As with the Rangers, the Phillies are projected luxury tax payors. They’re $5MM from the second threshold and, as a third-time payor, would pay a 50% tax on their next roughly $5MM and then 62% on the next $20MM after that. Signing Montgomery at a $25MM AAV, for instance, would cost the Phils $14.9MM in taxes (nearly $40MM in total for this season alone, assuming an even distribution of the yearly salaries in that theoretical scenario). Perhaps if Montgomery’s price drops and the Phillies begin to lose confidence in their ability to extend Zack Wheeler, that might begin to sound more palatable, but signing him would be a rather costly endeavor at the moment, given the team’s tax outlook.

Montgomery, 31, has made at least 30 starts in each of the past three seasons. In that time, he’s pitched 524 1/3 innings of 3.48 ERA ball with a 22.5% strikeout rate, a 6.2% walk rate, a 44.5% ground-ball rate and just 1.00 HR/9. His 2023 campaign was arguably the finest of his career, featuring a personal-best 188 2/3 innings of 3.20 ERA ball, plus another 31 innings of 2.90 ERA ball in the postseason — a strong performance that helped push the Rangers to their first-ever World Series title.

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  1. Tacoshells

    1 year ago

    So basically there’s no update

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    • NYCityRiddler

      1 year ago

      You! Are correct sir! Ahahaha!

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    • Bright Side

      1 year ago

      The update is just how far apart JM is with Texas. He’s a great fit for Texas just as Bells is ideal for the Cubs. Just not in Boras’ world.

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      • deweybelongsinthehall

        1 year ago

        The longer this goes suggests to me that Montgomery is waiting for the Red Sox to free up $$. His wife is doing her residency in Boston And I’m thinking a deal is already basically done despite what has been otherwise stated. He’s been too consistent and valuable for no one to be making a realistic offer.

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        • JoeBrady

          1 year ago

          That’s exactly the way I see it. I’d bet real money that he’d love to play for Boston, but Boston still has to offer something reasonable. If they are offering $100M/5 and someone else has $150M/6 on the table, that would be a lot to pass up in exchange for her residency.

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          1 year ago

          Yes and no Joe. Reminds me of JDM vs DD when no one else offered anything. Difference is the spouse and if signs elsewhere, they see very little of each other. He signs in Boston even for less, he can live normally. Residencies are for years and that’s why this makes sense

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      • drasco036

        1 year ago

        I think the Cubs wind up with Chapman and Bellinger. Chapman will get an opt out after a season and Bellinger two seasons.

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        • corey

          1 year ago

          I cant see Bellinger taking less than 3 or 4.

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        • drasco036

          1 year ago

          Opt out after two. I expect a deal in the 5/6 range year wise

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      • DeferredFan

        1 year ago

        Why is it Boras’s fault that they won’t pay his clients their worth in this market? It’s asinine that he gets the blame when he has consistently gotten his clients paid.

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        • drasco036

          1 year ago

          It’s because it’s a name people know. He’s made himself a lightening rod and people love to see him fail. It’s simply haters syndrome.

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        • pt57

          1 year ago

          Plus, it’s ultimately the player’s decision where and when to sign.

          A player also has Boras represent them because they want top dollar.

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  2. uvmfiji

    1 year ago

    He’s not an ace…and wants ace money.

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    • Daniel Youngblood

      1 year ago

      $25 million annually isn’t ace money. That’s what both Aaron Nola and Sonny Gray got this offseason, and he’s the only one of those three with a World Series ring.

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      • jjd002

        1 year ago

        And rings are a team accomplishment.

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        • Bart Harley Jarvis

          1 year ago

          Please be more respectful. If ‘Mom’ is referring to a specific person’s parent, then it’s considered as a proper noun and thus, it should be capitalized.

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          1 year ago

          Play nice in the sandbox wiffle.

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        • Player to be named in the future 2

          1 year ago

          That’s correct

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      • The Saber-toothed Superfife

        1 year ago

        ? Huh ? Are you a commie or something?

        $25M is not ace money?

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      • User 4014041831

        1 year ago

        Based on Montgomery’s age this contract is probably going to be his biggest payday in terms of length and best annual salary etc. If he really takes care of his body he could pitch to age 42 transitioning to a reliever. To a degree his value is whatever he can negotiate. If he wants to bet on himself (it’s a gamble never know if TJ injury could happen) Maybe he wants to be a mercenary winning as many rings as possible. Sign with HOU? 3 years for $?. They have a small window before they might lose Bregman and Tucker soon. Just one possibility. Total speculation by me.

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      • Phillls

        1 year ago

        Lol. Do you really think one pitcher leads teams to WS win? He’s not an ace. He was just lucky enough to be on the right team at the right time.

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      • Cora the Destroya

        1 year ago

        Aaron Nola is more ace-like than the other two. He has had some ace seasons, and I would consider him a #1 on his good years

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    • cwsOverhaul

      1 year ago

      What starters are really considered an “ace” now once you exclude older guys that miss significant time each or every other season like JV or deGrom?
      Does not seem like many.

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    • Rob Schumann

      1 year ago

      He is not looking for ace money. He is looking for solid #2 money. It’s probably Boras holding him up. If Monty signs that’s one less spot for Snell who wants ace money. Monty and the Rangers are a natural fit just like Stephen Drew and the Yankees were back in 2014. Boras held off having him sign early when the Yankees called. So they filled the spot with journeyman. It killed Drew’s career. Boras does it far too often. Someone will usually bail him out last minute like the Nationals did with Scherzer but teams seem to be getting leery of his antics. I am pretty confident that if Monty had a different agent he would be signed already. Several teams need a solid #2 who stays healthy and routinely gets them into the 7th.

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      • Anthony maresca

        1 year ago

        Are you aware Monty calls the shots NOT Boras!!! People crack me up when they say Boras is behind everything however its the player who has the ultimate say on how much or where they sign period. Simple, Boras works for the player, not the other way around.

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  3. Pedro Martinez’s Mango Tree

    1 year ago

    You can rule out the Red Sox

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    • User 4204968895

      1 year ago

      Yeah I’ve noticed the Red Sox have receded into the darkness on Montgomery.

      Savings!!

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    • RickEO

      1 year ago

      Actually using their heads for once

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      • Pedro Martinez’s Mango Tree

        1 year ago

        How so? He’s what this team needs

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  4. Baseball’s Topics on Baseball Today

    1 year ago

    Ready to have the hot stove still going in April? Which is fine by me. It’s still cold up North in April.

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  5. karnij

    1 year ago

    I think the rangers should just try to sign Trevor Bauer to a contract like he was describing. If he’ll play for League minimum and provide us with great pitching depth then I say go for it.

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    • Pedro Martinez’s Mango Tree

      1 year ago

      Nobody is signing Trevor Bauer, regardless of how inexpensive he is

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      • WiffleBall

        1 year ago

        Might as well sign Gina Carano and Jonathan Majors, too.

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        • karnij

          1 year ago

          who?

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        • karnij

          1 year ago

          who are they?

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      • karnij

        1 year ago

        Why?

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      • karnij

        1 year ago

        Why not?

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      • carllafong

        1 year ago

        It’s a joke. MLB has blackballed this guy who was exonerated from any crime. The woman was shaking him down for money and he refused to pay. This is criminal.

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    • NYCityRiddler

      1 year ago

      Wake up & smell the power steering fluid, it’s over for Bauer, finished, kaput, done, spent. As far as MLB is concerned he’s bought the farm, met his maker, dead, deceased, buried, departed, stiff. Any questions? Ahahaha!

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      • n2thecards

        1 year ago

        Love it, riddler!

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      • paddyo furnichuh

        1 year ago

        @Riddler…But what are you trying to say though??

        Give it to me straight!

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        • labial

          1 year ago

          Stiff?!?

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      • karnij

        1 year ago

        Yeah, why? He was cleared of any wrong doing! it’s stupid to stay away from someone who has the talent to still pitch in the majors

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        • JoeBrady

          1 year ago

          The grifter destroyed his career, just as promised.

          If MLB allows her to win, it will encourage every other grifter to try to shake down other players.

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        • karnij

          1 year ago

          Right so they need to sign him!

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        • CardsFan6969

          1 year ago

          Bauer still has other accusers.

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        • Ashleyr

          1 year ago

          Sorry to burst your bubble, but Bauer wasn’t cleared or exonerated. According to the prosecutors office, they didn’t have enough evidence to prove beyond all doubt. It was a he said – she said since they couldn’t prove guilt, no charges were filed. That is a huge difference from he is innocent, which isn’t the case.

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        • Millar101

          1 year ago

          Sorry my friend but Not enough evidence means they couldn’t prove him GUILTY! No case no crime that’s how the American law system works so yes he’s innocent until proven otherwise. No one knows what happened except the two of them so if they can’t prove him guilty without a reasonable doubt he’s innocent

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        • Cardinals Fan 13

          1 year ago

          She texted her friend that Trevor Bauer was her her next target and she took a picture the morning after all this went down and she was smiling! She’s not the brightest person

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        • Phillls

          1 year ago

          Millar101 Go ahead and believe that if you want. What about his other 3 accusers? All these random women are just picking on poor Trevor? Can’t prove guilty does not prove innocence

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      • Player to be named in the future 2

        1 year ago

        He’s an ex- parrot

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    • JackStrawb

      1 year ago

      @karnij WAG at a Daily News headline next week: “Years after missing on Bauer, Cohen finally gets his man.

      In a parlay that shocked the baseball world Steve Cohen took Bauer at his word and signed the formed suspension champ to an MLB minimum deal for 2024 then added Jordan Montgomery at 6/180m to lead the Mets into battle through 2029…”

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  6. Wagner>Cobb

    1 year ago

    Hoping the Angels rage-splurge and sign Snell AND Bellinger after watching Ohtani go to the Dodgers. Wouldn’t really change anything for them standings-wise, but I’m here for the hype it would cause.

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    • Americanentropy

      1 year ago

      They don’t have enough talent in the organization to compete. They have to overpay for multiple FAs. Such a poorly run franchise.

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      • Wagner>Cobb

        1 year ago

        Yup.

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        • Americanentropy

          1 year ago

          Would love to see Arte show some nads and dump Rendon.

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        • Wagner>Cobb

          1 year ago

          Needs to happen.

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        • Halo11Fan

          1 year ago

          And I’m hoping they are smart enough to not splurge on Montgomery and Bellinger. Bellinger had the worst statcast data of his career and doesn’t hit the ball hard.

          And Montgomery isn’t a difference maker, apply the money to someone who is.

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        • Halo11Fan

          1 year ago

          Hudler, you mean you want Moreno to act stupidly. Like he did cutting Hamilton which likely cost the Angels a playoff birth.

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        • Wagner>Cobb

          1 year ago

          Full disclosure: I’m not an Angels fan, so I’m not advocating for what would actually help them lol.

          *Also, I wrote Snell, not Monty.

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        • Halo11Fan

          1 year ago

          As far as Snell, I wouldn’t mind that.

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        • Americanentropy

          1 year ago

          Yeah, I want him tor emove a cancer from his team before it impacts the young guys coming. So, yeah I want him to act stupidly.

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        • Wagner>Cobb

          1 year ago

          If they keep Rendon, he should only DH. And that should only be 3-4 games per week. Maybe he pops 15 hrs from the 7th or 8th spot in the order.

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        • n2thecards

          1 year ago

          what a massive letdown to go from the best DH in baseball to a washed-up guy who might pop 15-20 HRs from 7-8 spot in the lineup.

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        • Wagner>Cobb

          1 year ago

          Yup.

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        • Halo11Fan

          1 year ago

          Cancer? Oh brother.

          The medical staff screws up, wont report the injury, and because he doesn’t lie to Sam Blum and say everything is fine, he’s a cancer.

          You don’t know what cancer is. He’s not Alex Johnson, or Frank Robinson, or even Jose Guillen.

          The Angels put him between a rock and a hard spot. Not the other way around.

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        • prov356

          1 year ago

          Hudler/Halo – Moreno already acted stupidly by signing Rendon. Cutting a guy who doesn’t play 25% of the season who takes up a roster spot is smart.

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        • Halo11Fan

          1 year ago

          In retrospect it was dumb. But no one thought that after the 2020 season when he was the Angels best player.

          286/418/497.

          Tenth in MVP voting. I typically don’t play revisionist history.

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        • Johnny Bravo

          1 year ago

          Trust me, you have no worries my Angels fan of Moreno spending any big money on pitching of matter-of-fact spending, any money at all so you can rest assure you will sleep at ease you we have nothing to look forward to in September neither
          Sad day to be an Angels fan
          The only hope we have Moreno sells the team there’s got to be an Angel fan in heaven

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      • CFS77

        1 year ago

        They would have to sign all 4 and add 120M to even have a chance this year.

        Chapman 3B, Rondon 1B, Bellinger CF, Trout RF

        Rotation led by Snell and Montgomery.

        It makes a interesting team.

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        • Wagner>Cobb

          1 year ago

          Yaaaas. Assemble an all-star team on paper and see what happens.
          1. Schaunel 1B
          2. Trout RF
          3. Bellinger CF
          4. O’Hoppe C
          5. Drury 2B
          6. Chapman 3B
          7. Moniak/Ward LF
          8. Rendon DH
          9. Neto SS

          1. Snell
          2. Monty
          3. Detmers
          4. Sandoval
          5. Canning

          Do it.

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        • n2thecards

          1 year ago

          what about Soler to DH? they could cut bait on Rendon if he doesn’t produce by the ASB.

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        • Persi W

          1 year ago

          In my opinion, adding Snell, Bauer, and JD Martinez to their current talent would be enough for the Angels to compete for a wildcard spot – and is financially more realistic. Of course the Angels would never sign Bauer though.

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        • Persi W

          1 year ago

          I would be very happy with:

          1. Schaunel 1B
          2. Trout CF
          3. JD Martinez DH
          4. Rendon 3B
          5. Drury 2B
          6. Moniak/Ward LF
          7. O’Hoppe C
          8. Hicks/Adell RF
          9. Neto SS

          1. Snell
          2. Bauer
          3. Detmers
          4. Sandoval
          5. Canning

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        • Wagner>Cobb

          1 year ago

          I don’t think Rendon can be counted on that high in the order. I also think Moniak and Ward should start whenever they are healthy. Hicks would be my 4th OF and Adell would need to impress me in the Spring.

          But in general, I think that’s a solid lineup. I’m more of a believer in Bellinger than most because I think his issues were caused by injury. Last year he showed he can be a skilled hitter when not selling out for power and the results were very good. The defense he brings is outstanding as well.

          Snell and Bauer (assuming Bauer basically picks up where he left off, or somewhere close) is a really high ceiling 1-2 punch atop the rotation.

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    • clausen366@gmail.com 2

      1 year ago

      I love seeing controlled chaos.

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    • carllafong

      1 year ago

      Angels need to sign Snell, but I’d rather see them sign Snell and Montgomery– it’s a safer bet. Sign Duvall and trade your surplus. They’re going to sign one of the two, but it’s a game of chicken. Problem for Boras is that are few teams with the budget left to pay what he’s asking.

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      • CFS77

        1 year ago

        Angels IMO have to do something splashy. They lost a huge talent and are burning Trouts legacy.

        Last thing the Halos need to be remembered for is letting Ohtani go and seeing Trout take a pillow deal in his post prime to just get a ring.

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    • User 4014041831

      1 year ago

      Isn’t Arte kinda on the fence/undecided about keeping the team and might sell? I think he said he was about 6 months back and then changed his mind. Probably a longshot (15%) but they might be a candidate to move to a new state. CA is a big state but how many teams? Is there attendance good? Dodgers cast a big shadow. A’s are almost in Lost Wages could fall through??

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  7. tominco

    1 year ago

    Monty should come back to St. Louis.

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    • Wagner>Cobb

      1 year ago

      1. Gray
      2. Monty
      3. Mikolas
      4. Gibson
      5. Lynn
      Matz to the ‘pen/picks up starts if someone is hurt

      Won’t happen, but ‘twould be awesome.

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      • Sunday Lasagna

        1 year ago

        @wagner>cobb Gray’s numbers should be off the charts as he will be facing worn out opposition, batters will be so tired from running bases after facing Gibson and Lynn.

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        • Wagner>Cobb

          1 year ago

          Lol…last place in the division but Sonny nabs that Cy Young ala Gerrit Cole

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    • Blackpink in the area

      1 year ago

      I highly doubt that happens but the Cardinals certainly could use him. Would have to trade Matz. Could backload the deal like the Gray contract. I could see it happening but it would require effort that I don’t think Mozeliak will want to mess with.

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      • Wagner>Cobb

        1 year ago

        I’m a Matz believer, but would gladly see him depart to bring back Monty. I’m not holding my breath though. It’s the kind of move the FO would make if they had a cutthroat design to dominate the division.

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        • Blackpink in the area

          1 year ago

          Yeah I just don’t see it happening but would be happy if it did. Cardinals don’t have a number 2. And yeah Matz could be good but he also could be bad or be hurt who knows with him.

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        • Astros2017&22Champs

          1 year ago

          What really hurt the cards was jeff luhnow walking out the door. And he took mike elias and brent strom with him. That cards front office was the best in mlb

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        • Blackpink in the area

          1 year ago

          I don’t think the Cardinals have missed Luhnkw much at all. The Cardinals are a well run franchise and have had success since he left. The Astros were terrible for years and now spend like crazy and have no farm system to speak of. Flags fly forever but what the Astros are doing now couldn’t be done in most cities.

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        • Astros2017&22Champs

          1 year ago

          I respect your opinion but the owner is on record being disappointed he left. He was responsible for a ton of young cards prospects during their pujols years. Strom would of been dave duncans replacement. Add sandy alcantara, zac gallen, and randy arozarena to that team and they’re contenders. Hindsight is 20/20 but the cards were the preeminent organization in baseball back then. Mo has made too many mistakes. As an Astros fan i respected the cards. They owned us

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        • Blackpink in the area

          1 year ago

          I don’t miss Luhnow at all. Losing Luhnow isn’t the problem in St Louis it’s Mozeliaks inability to hire a manager with experience. I was a fan during the McGwire years I saw enough cheating then to last me a lifetime. I have no hard feelings towards Luhnow but I don’t miss him at all.

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        • Dogbone

          1 year ago

          IMO, the ‘problem’ is MO.

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        • Tippin 44s

          1 year ago

          The Astros are literally going to pay the lux tax for the 1st time ever this season…2024, this run started in 2015. They didnt tank, & suck forever then just spend like crazy to win. That’s a lazy un-informed thing to say. 1st They were on the cutting edge of international players, especially older ones.

          Then they developed the best pitching coaches in the business & made a habit of improving every pitcher no matter where they came from, be it Pressly from Twins, Verlander from the Tigers, Maton from the Guardians, or signing Neris afyer Philly, look how much better they all are in Houston.

          That brings me to my next point They consistently won trades 90% of trades they won & big time, JV from the Tigers for nothing, Pressly from Twins for nobody, Yordan Alvarez for a RP, Y. Diaz & P. Maton for Myles dang Straw, I could name even more but you get the point.

          They develop their young players that aren’t heralded even though they went 2 whole years with no 1st round or 2nd round picks, look at their un heralded international signings & their late round draft picks they have turned into big leaguers- L. Garcia, J. Urquidy, F. Valdez, J. Altuve, C. Javier, B. Abreu, C. McCormick, J. Pena, H. Brown, etc I will stop here for now.

          Then on top of all that yes they spent enough to sign some FA, & give out some extensions but since 2015-2024 they have been around 10th highest payroll on avg over that time frame, not like the LAD, PHI, NYY, SDP, Etc that built their teams by signing 300 million dollar FA, in fact that’s a well known belief of the Astros is no mega contracts man so you don’t know the Astros at all.

          G. Springer, C. Correa, D. Kuechel, C. Morton, G. Cole, etc let them all walk instead of handing out massive FA contracts & instead went with cheaper options that teams like the Rays get credit for being smart but not the Astros.

          So in conclusion, draft well even when you don’t get a pick till the 3rd round, make smart trades that you win 90% of the time, have one of the best or THE BEST pitching coach staffs in all of MLB, don’t hand out bad super contracts, but do sign FA’s or extend your own when needed by not being afraid to spend, make sure the right guys are your core for clutch playing as well as club house culture, have 1 of the best analytic departments in all of MLB, & capitalize on market inefficiencies like the older international prospects, & your absolutely right every team in MLB CANT do that it takes THE BEST TEAM in MLB over the last 8 or 9 years.

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        • Tippin 44s

          1 year ago

          Then they tried to hack our system cus our FO was so more advanced than theirs, not tried DID HACK our system, they still ex employees in prison for it

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    • carllafong

      1 year ago

      For $25M a year you can make that happen. Send a memo to management.

      Reply
  8. User 2161944466

    1 year ago

    Spoiler alert, he signs with KC and the off-season spending shock of the 2024 Royals continues.

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    • n2thecards

      1 year ago

      Adding Monty to lead the rotation and Bellinger to boost OF/1B would provide quite a lift to this burgeoning team

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    • JoeBrady

      1 year ago

      The Royals are ruining baseball.

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      • n2thecards

        1 year ago

        haha. I gotta say that they’re making some decent moves this year

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  9. Blackpink in the area

    1 year ago

    The Rangers are in a tough spot. They have 3 really good pitchers who are projected to be ready mid season. And those 3 will need rotation spots once they are healthy. But I don’t know of their current rotation is good enough to keep them in the mix until that point.

    Probably shouldn’t have signed Mahle. He wasn’t exactly cheap and with Degrom and Scherzer already on the mend it created this problem.

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  10. cmanson

    1 year ago

    so a 10 win season guarantees you $25-30m a year ?

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    • laynestaley2002

      1 year ago

      I’m sure that you’re joking and you don’t REALLY base a pitchers performance and worth on “wins”, right?

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      • paddyo furnichuh

        1 year ago

        Well, the handle is cmanson, may not be the most forward thinker.

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      • cmanson

        1 year ago

        hang on, so an additional $20m yearly is justified in this case based on his performance ? please sell me what you’re smoking. This is Scott Boras doing what he does best, foook up the market.

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    • JoeBrady

      1 year ago

      Is 10 wins your prediction? I’d gladly wager he wins more than that. His RPG support was 4.24, while the league averaged 4.62.

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  11. oldredgunslinger

    1 year ago

    Evan Grant’s been Debbie Downer on the Rangers all off season. He acts like they are stone broke.I believe something will still happen before spring training, seeing how patchwork the rotation looks.

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    • Blackpink in the area

      1 year ago

      It’s patchwork right now. But come July Scherzer, Degrom and Mahle should be healthy.

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  12. Astros2017&22Champs

    1 year ago

    Rangers are being smart. Chris Young spent a fortune on a dominant infield and jon gray and eovaldi. They have several players to worry about to sustain their window. I expect them to follow the braves blueprint and lock up evan carter or wyatt langford in the coming years. They won their title. Its about the future. I like jordan Montgomery but he’s a #3 starter at best who had a career year

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  13. davemlaw

    1 year ago

    With no QO attachment this guy should already be signed.
    Monty chose Boras to represent him but with Snell also a client this is where having Scott as your agent hurts you.
    Snell would set the market and Monty theoretically would come in lower; no team wants to meet Snell’s price so we have an indefinite standstill.
    I could see Snell holding out til June, when the QO attachment is gone.

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  14. HBan22

    1 year ago

    I like Montgomery, but not at the price he seems to want or is projected to get. To me he’s more of a rock solid #3 type guy, not a top of the rotation guy. I don’t see the Rangers bringing him back unless his asking price comes down.

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    • Blackpink in the area

      1 year ago

      He’s more like a rock solid number 2. I wouldn’t call him an ace but he’s definitely a guy you feel good about starting game 2 of a playoff series.

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      • spudchukar

        1 year ago

        Agree, totally!

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    • User 4014041831

      1 year ago

      There were other good performances but IF I had to pick 2 players that made the difference with TEX winning the World Series OR just falling short . . . was Adonis and Montgomery giving the pitching staff much needed quality innings coming over in the trade and through the playoffs. Montgomery was a key element IMHO. Solid #2/3 for next 4-5 years if used right and he could transition to bullpen. He’s worth
      23- 25+M per year if you’re serious about winning a World Series

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  15. rangers13

    1 year ago

    As much as I would love Monty back a trade for Cease, Bieber, or one of the Marlin pitchers seems more likely.

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  16. SupremeZeus

    1 year ago

    Law of holes, has Arte written all over it.

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  17. just_thinkin

    1 year ago

    Sure would make sense in the Orioles rotation with like $0 committed to the rotation in 2025.

    Burnes
    Montgomery
    Bradish
    Rodriguez
    Means

    God damn that’s a rotation. Remains to be seen if any real money can be committed beyond this year though until the sale is super official.

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    • Blackpink in the area

      1 year ago

      I think the Orioles will either bring Burnes back or sign someone of similar talent next offseason. As of right now their rotation looks pretty good. And they could always make a deadline move if needed

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    • slider32

      1 year ago

      Doubt if the O”s sign Monte, they got Burnes in a trade, he’s not making the money Monte is asking for and he is a better pitcher.

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  18. spudchukar

    1 year ago

    This would make for a successful off season if the Cards would just pony up the cash. 6-man rotation, and the Central should happen, even if the Cubs make one big addition. 2 and it would be tougher.
    .

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    • Blackpink in the area

      1 year ago

      I do worry that the Cubs will make a big move or 2 before the season starts. Right now division looks wide open.

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      • Dogbone

        1 year ago

        Cubs are not going to spend any money on another LH SP. They already have Steele, Wicks and now Shota. And the reports on Shota have been very positive.

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        • Blackpink in the area

          1 year ago

          Yeah I don’t see them signing Montgomery or Snell. But they could sign Bellinger and perhaps trade for Cease.

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  19. Bigtimeyankeefan

    1 year ago

    Go back to where you belong… the yankees

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  20. Pete Rose is innocent Fry Ohtani

    1 year ago

    Of course Arte hasn’t green lit the signing of a top end starter because he has absolutely no interest in competing for the post season. He has ruined the franchise, which when he took over was only 2 years removed from being world series champs. He has set the franchise back 20 years with his terrible mismanagement and hiring of incompetent yes men around him. Pathetic. Good luck even drawing 1 million to the stadium this year running that steaming pile of garbage out onto the field

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  21. bighiggy

    1 year ago

    So dissappointing. Cards need another frontline starter, some are available, and actually want to play in st. Louis, and they are sitting on their hands thinking they are a rich man’s rays. Sometimes you gotta spend some money to get better. The rangers are over the luxury but the cards are far from it and pull in tons of revenue every year. Sucks seeing the team just try to do enough to just possibly make the playoffs. Give the fans a reason to be excited, not just line your pockets and think you are smarter than everyone else. Sorry for the rant. Also I’m excited for rangers fans because your ownership saw that it takes some money being spent to reach the top.

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  22. eznod

    1 year ago

    I think he’ll sign with the Giants. It’s just a hunch.

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  23. Blackpink in the area

    1 year ago

    I just don’t know what the Rangers should do. Montgomery is good if you sign him that’s good but how do all the starters fit come July? Go with a 6 man rotation? Maybe that’s not a bad idea.

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  24. Jswag

    1 year ago

    I have a feeling my Brewers are lurking and will be a player for Snell or Montgomery. Might need an Adames and/or Devin Williams trade lined up though (which I’m sure they are working on)

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  25. CaseyAbell

    1 year ago

    Funny thing. Feisand just said that Montgomery to the Rangers is “destined.” Guess he and Grant have different ideas about destiny.

    Grant was right that the Rangers would avoid an arb hearing with Garcia, though it was close. I think Grant figures the Rangers are gonna crash and burn this year and wants to say I told you so.

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  26. Bright Side

    1 year ago

    I’m guessing the Angels will wind up with one of the Boras pitchers.

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    • Pete Rose is innocent Fry Ohtani

      1 year ago

      Bright Side, as it relates to your profile picture; Better afro Freddy Fender or Al Green?

      Reply
  27. dano62

    1 year ago

    The Giants make so much sense – he’d be a great fit for Oracle, they’re lineup looks like a “pitching first” outfit, & if they could reel him in for 6 years at $23m a pop, he’d work out better than high risk Snell. That said I’m in an AL-only pool so Angels is my preference…

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  28. slider32

    1 year ago

    One thing for sure, predicting baseball is impossible! Websites like Fangraphs do a great job using maybe 20,ooo mock games to do it. The outcomes are random. Last year the Mets and Padres won the winter and neither made the playoffs. Top players like Ohtani and Trout have rarely made the playoffs, and nobody was picking the Rangers last year. Right now the Braves and Dodgers are the clear favorites to win this year. Signing any one player really doesn’t make that much difference when something is random.

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  29. Craviduce

    1 year ago

    The Rangers will not want to hurt Luken Baker nor Luken Baker’s plate appearances. Signing Montgomery to a long contract puts all this into play..

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  30. Heels On The Field

    1 year ago

    Phillies need Belli Bombs at the Bank, not pitching.

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  31. Coal tender

    1 year ago

    Rangers maybe content with their farm club filling the gaps left by Free agency.

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  32. HalosHeavenJJ

    1 year ago

    Come on, Arte. We need good innings and a lot of them.

    I’d much rather have Montgomery than Snell..

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    • acoss13

      1 year ago

      Montgomery is more consistent, Snell is too erratic. Problem is, Montgomery wants to be paid top dollar, and that’s a bit much, so even Arte should wait for his price to go down. Both Snell and Montgomery want Gerrit Cole money it seems, and that’s not happening.

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      • carllafong

        1 year ago

        Montgomery has been more consistent, but his upside as unhittable is not the same as Snell. I think Snell has come into his own and will excel as an elite arm for next five years. I’d bet on him for a six-year deal at $180M. Montgomery at $25M for 5-years is justified in this market. I love Bellinger, but I believe he is more of a risk.

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  33. acoss13

    1 year ago

    If Cubs hadn’t gotten Shota Imanaga, I would have liked Hoyer to go after Montgomery at a reasonable price. I think we can all agree that the fact that both Snell and Montgomery are represented by Boras, the asking price is too high…

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  34. Gofishingcalifornia

    1 year ago

    The update is, he’s not on a team yet!

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  35. paosfan

    1 year ago

    Orioles should sign him they have the money and 2 starters are fa in 2025. Make that rotation even more scary with Monty as #5

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  36. GoGreen

    1 year ago

    I feel like CY has made or been a part of some great trades since coming in. Heim, Adolis, Lowe, Dunning, Montgomery, Chapman, Scherzer… are all some really good or purposeful trades.

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    • Blackpink in the area

      1 year ago

      Ragans looked fantastic once he got to Kansas City. And the prospects the Cardinals got for Montgomety and Stratton are both borderline top 100 guys. But as they say flags fly forever and the Rangers will never regret those moves no matter what happens from here on out.

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      • GoGreen

        1 year ago

        And the farm is still intact with arms and position players. Win, win, win.

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    • sippycups

      1 year ago

      I swear, man. you have the absolute worst takes. CY should be in the rangers HOF yesterday for what he’s done with this team in the short amount of time he’s been at the helm.

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    • GoGreen

      1 year ago

      You mean the cash considerations the Rangers traded to the Cards for Garcia? What other monies to be allocated elsewhere? What trade stated above was made purely while Jon Daniels held a title in the FO and not Chris Young? All the mentioned players have spoke highly of coming to the organization in part because of the plan that Chris Young laid in front of them.

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  37. sippycups

    1 year ago

    sign Bauer for the league minimum then, CY. let’s go!

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  38. sippycups

    1 year ago

    refuses to make trades? what are you on about, dude? sit that one out.

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  39. Redsox8

    1 year ago

    Ultimately, I think Breslow and the Red Sox are playing their hand right. Montgomery probably wants to play in Boston because of his wife’s residency there and also the fact that they just got married a little over a year ago, It only makes sense. At least half the game’s he’d be home and already living there is a plus. A Dermatology residency is usually 4-5 years. Lines up perfectly for a deal in Boston.
    I’m sure Boras know how they feel, but it’s his job to get Montgomery the best deal out there. I don’t blame Boras, he’s the best in the business.
    Hopefully, the Red Sox aren’t insulting him with a ridiculous offer, only playing poker with Boras .

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  40. Guyerbassist

    1 year ago

    Why tf aren’t we involved. Are we going to run the B and C team rotation out there till mid season? Perhaps it’s not the end of the world but it’s not great and if we aren’t in serious contention come all star break, don’t say I didn’t tell ya so.

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  41. JackStrawb

    1 year ago

    And to think, numerous dimwits continue to refer to Montgomery as a “good #3 starter.”

    I wouldn’t entirely rule out a late Mets lunge after Montgomery or Snell. It would be typical for Cohen to make a last minute grope for a top player. Zips over at fangraphs currently projects the Mets for 83 wins. It’s ridiculous, but say the Mets’ projection system spits out something similar—then why not add Monty and boost your median total to 86-87 wins? That kind of money means nothing to Cohen. Figure on adding another win or three at the deadline and you’re just about kissing 90.

    I can see the headlines now: “Mets Rise from Dead, Snell’s Bells!”

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    • Snuffy

      1 year ago

      Cohen is impulsive, so you could be right. Last year was such a fiasco that even Cohen might want to spend a year learning how this works. I doubt he wants to be seen as a losing spendthrift owner.

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    • LostYankeeinexile

      1 year ago

      @JackStrawb. Watching Monty come up with the Yanks, he was never projected more than a #3 for his ceiling. As for what he actually is though, there’s arguments to be made he could be a #2 or even an Ace on a team with no true Ace, but on a 90+ win team … he’s probably a really solid #3. Most teams are running a 1A 1B configuration or at least leaning into that idea. I love Monty… but he had one playoff year…. A great year no doubt, but only one. I’m guessing he gets a 4/100 – 5/ 125 with some opt outs, but he’s not getting Cole or Verlander money brother. He’s probably not getting Rodon money for that matter

      Reply
    • Cora the Destroya

      1 year ago

      The fact that they unloaded Scherzer and Verlander last year makes me think they aren’t going to make stupid signing attempts this year. If they do, then Cohen has no clear plan and should be fired because both Scherzer and Verlander are better than Monty when healthy. Signing Monty would only contradict what was done in 2023, and the results aren’t even as good.

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      • LostYankeeinexile

        1 year ago

        @ Chaim Ummm Cohen is the owner and can’t be “fired” lol Scherzer is a Ranger, and Verlander is an Astro haven’t been on the Mets for half a season so getting Monty has no bearing on them…. What are you talking about?

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        • Cora the Destroya

          1 year ago

          I’m saying if the Mets really wanted to compete, they should not have traded both Verlander and Scherzer. One could’ve been traded, but trading both really had them waving white flags. Monty probably isn’t enough to bring them back to competitive in 2024.

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        • LostYankeeinexile

          1 year ago

          Ok Monty not being enough is something I can absolutely agree with, however I can see the wisdom in bailing out on Scherzer and Verlander. The money the Mets got out from can be used to better effect later. I get that this is a change for Mets fans having an owner that spends …. But you have to spend it somewhat wisely too, and those two contracts were heavvvvvy. Better to shuffle them off

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        • Cora the Destroya

          1 year ago

          I think it was fine to offload one of them but both was giving up an ace and a lot of talent. They don’t have an ace now

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        • LostYankeeinexile

          1 year ago

          True. They have a decent starter in Senga he’s not a number 1 true.

          Reply
  42. LostYankeeinexile

    1 year ago

    Not an Angels fan, but I absolutely believe every baseball fan should be headhunting for Arte Moreno’s scalp. The dude WASTED the best years of Trout. Shohei RAN as soon as he could from that mess in Anaheim and who could blame him with that owner. Angel fans have my sympathy. I don’t think they’ll have real hope again until the team is sold.

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  43. Cora the Destroya

    1 year ago

    Welcome to the Yankees

    Reply
  44. MLBTR needs to hire editors

    1 year ago

    No need for a comma before “specifically.” Of course, incompetent Adams wouldn’t know this.

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