The Marlins announced this afternoon that right-hander Eury Perez is experiencing elbow soreness and is set to undergo imaging and testing over the course of the coming days. Jon Heyman of the New York Post adds that part of the club’s diagnostic process will be a trip to Texas, where Perez will meet with noted orthopedic surgeon Dr. Keith Meister. Earlier this week, Perez was pulled from a Spring Training start after just 14 pitches due to discomfort caused by a broken fingernail.
It’s a brutal blow for the Marlins, who have been ravaged by rotation injuries this offseason. Sandy Alcantara underwent Tommy John surgery back in the fall and is set to miss the entire 2024 campaign, and since then both Braxton Garrett and Edward Cabrera have dealt with shoulder issues that could relegate them to the injured list to begin the season. Now Perez appears all but certain to open the regular season on the shelf as well. While the severity of the 20-year-old phenom’s specific issue is uncertain, concerns regarding the elbow are particularly ominous due to the possibility of a lengthy absence.
Elbow surgeries can often wipe out a pitcher’s entire season, as is the case with Alcantara, and even non-surgical rehab can take a pitcher away from game action for months at a time, as was recently demonstrated by Yankees ace Gerrit Cole. Even in the best case scenario, the time spent determining the extent of Perez’s injury figures to set him back as he looks to build up his pitch count for the regular season. Perez’s aforementioned fingernail issue has limited his ability to prepare for the coming season this spring, and with just two weeks until Opening Day and the right-hander likely to be sidelined for at least a few more days, it’s hard to imagine him being able to avoid at least a brief stint on the injured list.
With Perez, Cabrera, and Garrett all at least at risk of joining Alcantara on the injured list to open the season, that leaves southpaw Jesus Luzardo as the only member of the club’s on-paper starting rotation who is currently expected to be available on Opening Day. Southpaw A.J. Puk was already widely expected to begin the season in the club’s rotation after the club made the decision to stretch the lefty out despite his success as a high-leverage arm in the club’s bullpen last year, and the injuries also seem likely to open the door for the likes of Trevor Rogers and Ryan Weathers to step into rotation roles as the season begins. That would still leave the fifth spot in the club’s rotation vacant, however, though right-hander Bryan Hoeing represents one option already on the 40-man roster and the club has plenty of potential non-roster options at its disposal including Yonny Chirinos, Vladimir Gutierrez, and Devin Smeltzer.
Of course, none of those potential depth options can be reasonably expected to deliver the sort of impact that Perez offers. The righty, 21 next month, was a consensus top-15 prospect in all of baseball when he made his debut for Miami last year, and he immediately flashed the front-of-the-rotation potential that his prospect pedigree suggested as he dazzled with a microscopic 1.34 ERA and a solid 3.02 FIP in his first nine starts in the majors. He struck out 29.2% of batters faced during that stretch, and while midsummer struggles led the club to limit his workload down the stretch the youngster nonetheless features prominently in the club’s plans for the 2024 season and beyond. So much so, in fact, that Perez was generally regarded as the club’s sole untouchable as they fielded trade offers on the likes of Garrett, Luzardo, and Cabrera during the offseason.
The rotation injuries have been a major blow to a Marlins club that is looking to build upon a surprising postseason appearance in 2023. The club’s starting pitchers ranked top ten in the majors last year in ERA, FIP, and fWAR while striking out the fourth-most batters in all of baseball. That dominant run prevention apparatus was key to the club’s success last year as the lineup lagged behind, ranking just 20th in the majors with a collective wRC+ of 94. With so many injuries impacting the club’s rotation already this year, the team will need strong performance from the likes of Luis Arraez, Josh Bell, Jake Burger, and Jazz Chisholm Jr. if the club hopes to return to postseason contention in 2024.
Johnny utah
Here we go again! Another star pitcher is out! The f is happening??
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From a fingernail to an elbow
Big whiffa
One helluva hangnail !
Senioreditor
Can’t throw a hundred and not expect this. Let’s throw 90-92 and keep a few pitchers healthy.
robw5555
90-92? The top guys throw hard, not 90-92.
Yankee Clipper
Imagine what will happen if they move the mound back a few feet like they were considering doing….
Very Barry
I wonder if Jamie Moyer ever checked his spin rate???
GONEcarlo
Why can’t we have nice things?
Oldguy58
That’s funny
Nicely done
terry g
The year of the injured pitchers arm has arrived.
Travis’ Wood
Mlb gotta figure out this pitcher injury thing. The future of the sport depends on it.
Rishi
Really pitchers themselves need to figure it out. Individually and collectively. Perhaps they could join together in a sort of union like effort to try and get more conclusive research and force change about how they are used/told to prepare. They can’t really complain much tho. It’s a risky job. It’s not as simple as blaming their teams/trainers/etc either. Who knows why a player gets hurt. All just a thought. Idk.
Travis’ Wood
Pitchers themselves need to figure it out? That’s just absurd…. Teams are forcing them to throw max effort until they basically break down…. It’s gonna have to be MLB that changes rules to incentives teams to not max out their pitchers….
Rishi
Pitchers will have to figure it out because it’s their bodies. Nobodies body is the same. MLB will never “figure it out” because there is more at play here than the way pitchers are used and the rules. You have assumptions about why these injuries occur. There are many explanations that may all be factors. If at any time a pitcher states they need a break they will get one. It’s on them. If something isn’t working for their bodies it’s up to them to say “this doesn’t work for me”. They are not slaves. Their own best interest often serves the team more than many of them realize.
Rishi
Nobody forces a pitcher to max out. They buy into it themselves. Nobody makes a pitcher throw when they are sore. Nobody makes a pitcher eat a certain diet. Etc. They can suggest these things but that’s all. I’m sure keeping businessmen o even coaches who’s job it is to win in charge of the future of their own bodies makes more sense then figuring out what they need to do and cannot do.
User 401527550
That’s not true at all. Scouts won’t even look at you if your not hitting a certain spot on a radar gun.
AmericanRedneck
They’d rather speed them up to unprecedented times between pitches, in a true novel fashion, and act perplexed when guys start dropping. They already ensured at least three batters, even if you can’t hit the broad side of a barn. One year test and implement was a poor bargaining chip to lose by the MLBPA.
Dogbone
MARLINS need to figure it out – or better yet, by now they should have figured this out. Seems an inordinate amount of their Pitchers are suffering the consequences.
Rishi
Seems to me only natural that injuries occur this time of spring. I’d like to see stats tho. Tho it wouldn’t be conclusive anyway.
SCOTTG3
The running clock on hurrying up to throw the next pitch, for the sake of satisfying the casual fans, giving arms less time to recover before throwing again is taking pitching down a black hole of injuries.
Rishi
That was one of my original concerns about the clock. I think there are many factors at play here but you make a great point.
Travis’ Wood
No evidence the pitch clock has anything to do with it. Much more likely it’s pitchers throwing max effort with each pitch
Rishi
So you say MLB needs to figure it out yet here about the only thing they are actually responsible for and can change directly (reasonably) you say is irrelevant. There is definitely evidence that less time between exercising/sets of an exercise for instance- leads to injury. How obvious can that be? Meanwhile you believe MLB is somehow responsible for pitchers deciding they are gonna throw max effort. As if they were robots without free will. That’s up to THEM. Not MLB. You speak of MLB. What do you mean by that? Is it the owners and Manfred? Is it the coaches? How does MLB itself have any control over anything but a pitch clock? If it’s front office and coaches they are merely advising you in most cases. It’s on the player.
Rishi
Getting advise from the front office, a trainer, or a coach is like going to a doctor. You are best off informed on your own before you make decisions. They advise you and if you go along with everything they say without question you may indeed end up with a regimen that leads to injury. But nobody made you do it. If you say it doesn’t feel right they won’t force you. It’s not in their interest.
Rishi
In what way would there be evidence hypothetically? There are too many variables to isolate the pitch clock as the cause in an experiment. Even if it were possible they just started using it. There is not enough data. But as I said it doesn’t need research…it’s obvious that less rest between stress gives less recovery time. It’s possible it isn’t a bad number tho (the pitch clock). Idk.
Skeptical
@rishi, Evidence? In 1963, in arguably one of the greatest pitching duels ever, Warren Spahn threw 201 pitches and Juan Marichal threw 227 pitches. The 16 inning game lasted 250 minutes. That works out to 1.71 pitches per minute. Spahn started 33 games that year for 259.2 innings. He threw 22 complete games that year. He was 42 at the time and would miss 18 days later in the season. Marichal was only 25 at the time, started 40 games that year, pitched in 41 games and threw a paltry 321.1 innings. Looked at a random game for last September, eight pitchers threw 265 pitches over 171 minutes for 1.55 pitches per minute. The 1963 game was pitched at a faster pace. (Note that Spahn worked slower than Marichal who ran to the mound and then to the dugout after he finished his half inning. Note also that both pitchers batted.)
Last season, the most starts was 35, complete games three and innings pitched 216, though each of these accomplishments came from different pitchers.
Since 1963, games have taken longer to complete, starting pitchers throw fewer pitches in a game, starting pitchers throw fewer innings over the season and starting pitchers have longer breaks between starts, yet injuries to pitchers have gone up. (Marichal pitched every fourth game). As pitchers have become more pampered, injuries have gone up. To argue that the injuries are the fault of the pitch clock is to ignore the historical evidence.
fivepoundbass
@Skeptical If there are no pitching changes, that speeds games up. I would also be curious to know how long the breaks were between innings in those days.
Rsk3228
It certainly doesn’t help.
Rishi
Nobody is arguing injuries are because of pitch clock. I said it it because largely of maxing out and concern over spin rates. We simply asked if it could make things worse. Those examples have little to do with what I’m saying. Those pitchers were not maxing out and trying for highest possible spin rates as frequently. There are too many variables for that to be a good comparison on pitch clock. It is possible that were those pitchers taught to throw the way today’s pitchers were that they would be more injury prone at those high innings. Pitchers are pampered in a sense, no doubt. But they are also hindered in the fact that they throw max effort. Also they have workouts constantly that may or may not cause injuries (many of these are cutting edge programs without any long term data). I don’t disagree with what you say I merely feel you misunderstand my statement and that your argument is misleading because there are so many more variables to consider than innings pitched and time between pitches when comparing these eras
Rishi
Also let’s look at, as someone pointed out, the difference in mechanics. Those older pitchers look totally different usually. They throw in such a smooth way but they clearly are not trying to max out most of time. Even ones that threw very hard seemed to do so almost effortlessly, like a few pitchers today also do, but a very few.
foppert2
I’d like to hear the physiological reasoning of the shortened time theory. What body process is it that needs the time. For me, muscles fire, relax, ready to go again. Ligaments, tendons stretch, hold, relax, ready to go again. Not sure what a few more seconds is allowing.
Torque for me. Chasing hard on spin and movement. I’d give a universally uniform sticky ball a try. Let the fingers do some work.
Rishi
“muscles fire…relax…ready to go again”. Well what a few more seconds is allowing is just that…a few more seconds. If a guy is at 90 pitches he may wish to take more than a few more seconds too. If you do a set of squats would you not be able to do more squats if you waited 5 minutes between instead of 4? That is more strenuous so the recovery time is longer than a pitch. It may be that the pitch clock is enough time. Idk. Certainly this isn’t as big an issue as the spin/velo hunting.
foppert2
Yeah I suppose I could do more squats with longer rest, but the question is am I increasing the chances of injury if i shorten the time between. Less time for blood flow to get to things maybe. I’m not sure.
Rishi
Fair enough. In the squat case I do think it would lead to more injury possibilities. In baseball it may be it is better to take 20 seconds than 30 seconds to throw pitches. Idk either. I do think 20 seconds is probably better than 5-10.
Judd_Skinner
The problem is identified, but it will take a monumental culture shift to correct. Pitchers throw every pitch as hard as they possibly can from the age of 10. These Perfect Game showcase events have them doing it without even properly warming up. If you don’t throw 95mph and have a certain spin rate, scouts don’t even bother looking at you. The entire system is flawed.
Prospectnvstr
Teams need to go back to having starting PITCHERS instead of starting THROWERS.
Hey now
You could have an all star all Tommy John team this season
10centBeerNight
Jesus hope it’s a false alarm
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10cent
It is Perez not Luzardo
Braves_saints_celts
I think he was saying Jesus, as in Christian Jesus, not Jesus luzardo. Gotta be able to comprehend that.
Blue Baron
But we’re not all Christian. Why are you guys so quick to bring him into conversations?
Liberalsteve
we know what religion you are
Braves_saints_celts
I never once said I was a Christian, I clearly stated that he said Jesus, as in Christian Jesus, not Jesus luzardo. I couldn’t care less what religion anybody has, and in fact I’m not all that much of a Christian myself. But it was easy to see thats how he was pronouncing Jesus, not Jesus luzardo. So I don’t see how I was quick to bring him into a conversation when I was literally going based off of how he said it and nothing to do with the religion aspect behind it.
Braves_saints_celts
Oh yeah what religion would that be? Y’all really think because of how he said something, and I was clarifying it, makes some a Christian, and means I’m bringing religion into the topic at hand? Y’all are idiots and have no idea what y’all are talking about besides trying to stir the pot.
UncommonSense
Doesn’t Christian Jesus play for the pirates?
Braves_saints_celts
He may, I’m not sure, id have to look into it.
Prospectnvstr
Well Blue Baron, ALL of us SHOULD be Christians. Some of us are & some of us aren’t. It’s a CHOICE that we have to make ourselves. I’m just thankful that we live in a country that I can make that choice without being thrown in jail or prison, being disowned, or killed by the government of my country. I can say I’m a Christian & say how my life has changed since I was saved. If you or anyone else on this board choose not to be a Christian, that’s your choice.
gbs42
MannyBeingMVP,
Your little joke sure blew up the comments section!
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Braves_saints_celts
I surmised as much. Gotta be able to comprehend attempted humor.
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GBS
We can only hope that Eury’s elbow is not blown up half as bad.
Blue Baron
@Prospectnvstr: Why should we all be Christians?
You saying that is offensive and disrespectful to other religions. If you were a true Christian and a good person, you wouldn’t proselytize and push your beliefs on others.
I have no idea what you were saved from, but it certainly wasn’t tolerance and open-mindedness. If that’s what Christianity is about, I will pass, no thank you very much.
Braves_saints_celts
Well see that’s where comprehension becomes a little less clear. I failed to see any humor, and as you stated it was an attempt on your end, not an absolute, so me not being able to comprehend that is completely understandable. At the same time if he would have put a comma behind Jesus, it would have been a lot more clear. No hard feelings. As far as the religious stuff, sorry that got blown up and way out of proportion on your comment thread, completely went over anything I was trying to say.
Blue Baron
What religion is that, Liberalsteve, and what’s your problem with it?
Braves_saints_celts
See that’s what you were trying to call me out on, yet I didn’t do any of that. Gotta pick and choose your battles. Next time go after him, not me, implying I was shoving Christianity down you and others throats, because I wasn’t
Blue Baron
@Braves et al: I wasn’t addressing you and had no issue with anything you said.
I was responding to Prospectnvstr. He actually said everyone should be Christian, implying that anyone who chooses another religion or other beliefs is wrong and inferior.
If that’s not shoving Christianity down other peoples’ throats, I don’t know what is, short of torturing non-believers like the Spanish Inquisition, and nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.
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Braves-Saints-Celts
No worries, we are good. I thought it was just a mild little subtle joke on my part but it has grown legs.
szc55
Wow, complete comprehension fail on your part.
User 401527550
You weren’t very open minded on the first comment. Stop being a hypocrite. You brought yourself into a conversation and started an argument just to be spiteful.
10centBeerNight
I meant the Bible bro. As in “darn hope it’s a false alarm.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Yeah, let’s wish the best for Eury
Susannah
Is it really necessary for these pitchers to do maximum velocity and spin on every single pitch? Is throwing 100 mph during spring training worth it? Perhaps there will be less number of injuries if they become more of pitchers instead of throwers.
Blue Baron
@Susannah: Less number of = Fewer.
UncommonSense
Fewer = the amount of times you should correct that
Blue Baron
Fewer = the NUMBER of times you should make that mistake, no matter the AMOUNT of food you eat or rain that falls.
RonDarlingShouldntBeInTheHallOfFame
Damn. Another one?
rhandome
This sucks man
King Floch
FFS, another one?!
This is friggin’ absurd!
2183281
I always wondered why arm injuries were way less prevalent in the 60s-2000s. Guys were throwing 15-20 complete games a year and throwing 300 innings (more 60s and 70s for that). They were just fine. They had plenty of velocity too. The new age of baseball is weird. Velocity and home runs.
Johnny utah
Coaches teach kids at age 12 to start throwing harder & faster. By the time they are 17 and drafted they are throwing 100+
But by age 21 after a decade of abuse on their arms, they are undergoing TJ
Say Hey Now Kid
Utah U nailed it. And in addition to that they only play one sport and throw that hard year round
Judd_Skinner
Ding ding ding. This philosophy is the new culture of baseball and it is inherently flawed. Kids start playing year round travel ball now at the age of 7 with tournaments every weekend. By the time they get to middle school they’re pitching midweek and on the weekend. Their arms are shot in high school. It’s wild.
revolver
Driveline and their progenye
2183281
Thanks for the responses! I played different sports year round as a kid and pitched in college and I was never burnt out. When it was the off season, I just worked out and then would ease into throwing. My 16 yo nephew is playing baseball year round and throwing 88-89, throwing 6 different kinds of off speed and throwing 2-3 bullpens per week at 90%+. I can’t think that’s good for him, but I keep my mouth shut
cwsOverhaul
It is family. Max velo will backfire unless he wants to be a short stint BP prospect for colleges/beyond. Grown adult starters who top off at 93-94 and have 3 solid pitches they can command will prosper by virtue of productive results……even if they are “undervalued” along the way.
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Cws
Respectfully, you are saying how it should be not how it is
The guy with the 101 fb gets drafted and bonus money, the guy with savvy who mixes pitches in the 80s is lucky to get a college scholarship
Kids are taking the risk because they are competing for spots against others taking the same absurd risks
fivepoundbass
Kinda reminds me of the steroid conversations from years past. Players claiming they have to do it to compete, with no regard for the after effects.
James Midway
I think MLB needs to expand the roster to allow more pitchers on the active team. Some of these guys throw so many innings and there are tons of elbow problems. Nolan Ryan was the exception, not the rule.
Yanks4life22
Actually What Nolan Ryan did every year was the rule. Ryan going until he was almost 50 was the exception.
Pitching focus from high school on is about as much velocity and spin rate as possible on every single pitch. That’s why elbows explode these days.
Senioreditor
I disagree, force pitchers (starting pitchers) to throw more innings, they’ll have to ease up on the accelerometer and probably last longer.
AL B DAMNED
MLB WANTS TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF PITCHERS FROM 13 TO 12 ALREADY. I THINK MLB DOESN’T CARE ABOUT THE PITCHERS AS LONG AS TEAMS SCORE A LOT OF RUNS. OLD FASHIONED PITCHERS DUELS ARE A THING OF THE PAST! MANAGERS BABY PITCHERS TO PITCH COUNTS TRYING TO AVOID INJURIES, SO COMPLETE GAMES ARE NOT EVEN A THOUGHT IN TODAY’S GAME. MLB WANTS MORE SCORING TO MAKE THE GAME MORE EXCITING TO THE FANS. I THINK THE PITCH COUNT HAS SOMETHING IN COMMON WITH INJURIES. PITCHERS ARE ALWAYS IN A HURRY… AND ARMS, ELBOWS ARE UNDER CONSTANT PRESSURE. TEAMS THAT USE ANYLYTICS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FREQUENCY OF PITCHING CHANGES. I MYSELF DO NOT LIKE THE PITCH CLOCK OR THE 3 BATTER MINIMUM THAT MLB PUT IN TO SHORTEN GAMES…..LET THEM PLAY…WHO CARES ABOUT TIME? BASEBALL WAS NEVER INTENDED TO BE TIMED…THATS THE PROBLEM!!!
BEFORE YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT CAPS, I AM VISUALLY IMPAIRED, NO COMPUTER, KEYBOARD, JUST A SMALL ASS PHONE..
Brew88
Thanks, didn’t have to find my eating glasses to read this one.
Yanks4life22
Lol I know you meant reading but if you also had eating glasses as well it would be exceptional
Blue Baron
AL B DAMNED, why are you SHOUTING?
Keep your voice down. We can still hear you.
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Baron
The shouter explained it at the end
Yanks4life22
NO WAY!!!! THESE CAPS ARE FOR YOU AL MY BOY! KEEP PREACHING!
Blue Baron
Thanks. I didn’t read that far, lol.
Ma4170
These pitchers barely throw any innings. Its the fact they go 100% velocity and/or spin rate on almost every pitch. You would think they would have figured this out by now.
revolver
Reduce pitchers to 12 spots max. Then reduce the number of times a pitcher can be optioned. Let the market force this driveline max effort crap out of the game.
BaseballisLife
Because you like seeing the RF coming in to pitch?
Blue Baron
Robin Roberts, Bob Gibson, Ferguson Jenkins, Tom Seaver, and others did that before Ryan and Clemens.
Yanks4life22
CC Sabathia and Roy Halladay just did it like 5 minutes ago in baseball years. Athletes haven’t evolved….the morons running baseball have. It used to be baseball lifers throughout the organizations making baseball decisions, now it’s the bottom of the barrel Ivy leaguers and rich elites relatives and friends. But don’t worry they know what they are doing because they played fantasy baseball and read Moneyball their senior year. And then they all get free billion dollar facilities and unlimited write-offs which trickle down to the players. It’s all a government scam Lolol.
Karensjer
Is Sixto Sanchez a viable option for them this year? Let’s hope he’s over his injury woes if he is an option because the only other team with starting pitching injury problems like this are the Astros and Tampa and maybe Texas.
mp9
OH SHIIIT! Sixto Sanchez story again
MLB Top 100 Commenter
You gotta believe that this is the year for Max Meyer and Sixto Sanchez to combine on a perfect game. More likely than winning PowerBall if you don’t buy a ticket.
gtb1
First problem is overhead throwing. Softball never has this problem. The old submarine sidearmers rarely had this problem.
Second problem is too many pitches before puberty. We are creating increased external rotation in the proximal humerus – through the growth plate where 80% of the growth of the humerus occurs. Great for fast ball velocity but creates a problem with less internal rotation possible through follow through. Made worse with opening the front too early. James Andrews had it right. More innings pitched before high school less chance to finish high school playing baseball. The corollary is those that do survive are still more prone to elbow and shoulder injuries later on.
User 3180623956
gtb1 – this is exactly the problem. I watched it happen as my son went through youth baseball right up through high school. The coaches are idiots and only want the hardest throwers on the mound regardless of their ability to control the strike zone. My kid had slower velocity but his pitches had natural movement and he could put the ball exactly where he wanted it most of the time. He was never hit hard, mostly inducing weak contact, but the coaches stopped using him solely based on his lack of velocity and our insistence on him not throwing any type of curve until he was older. I wasn’t expecting him to be a star pitcher or anything, but it sure was frustrating seeing him get passed over for the wild power throwers. A bunch of those kids were already having elbow problems before high school…
solaris602
I knew Giolito would have a blowout at some point because he short arms the ball. Dylan Cease does the same thing, and it’s just not fundamentally sound. But don’t even get me started about what Clevinger does on the mound. There’s literally nothing he does that is fundamentally sound, but I cringe because I know there are kids trying to emulate him. Pitching coaches and managers all down the line turn a blind eye to these things if the results are there. These pitchers need TJS at least once.
sascoach2003
As someone who has been around the game for almost 60 years, I believe that a lot has to do with pitchers “throwing ” as opposed to “pitching” and teams being alright with that philosophy. I could see in the near future, the players union asking for 28-30 rosters to carry 15 man staffs, allowing pitchers to just go 1-2 innings and throw with max velocity.
whyhayzee
Agreed.
Location – Movement – Velocity was the proper hierarchy to achieve command.
Velocity – Movement – Location is the current hierarchy, and has nothing to do with command.
Pitching is all about command.
YankeesBleacherCreature
We’re not far away from that with an extra roster spot recently added for each team and more teams using openers.
whyhayzee
Cancel the 2025 season and have every professional pitcher undergo Tommy John surgery, starting today and lasting through the 2024 season, as they drop, so to speak.
Blue Baron
@whyhayzee: What an amazingly dumb post.
Did you come up with that idea yourself?
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Baron
Hayzee was not serious … nor was he funny
Blue Baron
I stand my ground that it’s a dumb post, serious or not, lol.
SODOMOJO
This one sucks. He reminds me so much of Felix at his age. Very fun to watch how he commands the mound and isn’t afraid to throw all of his stuff for strikes. Hope he stays healthy cause he has the stuff to be a great one.
Buzzz Killington
That decreased work load last year still didn’t stop it.
teachdad46
What is it with Florida pitchers? Between Tampa and Miami you could field a stud five-man rotation with all of them out with serious elbow/shoulder issues.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Sandy pitched longer and hard
Eury is a young thin guy who pitches really hard
Neither of these surprised me much
High risk, high reward
30 Parks
When will teams learn? Same old thing. Unfortunate.
cinredsfan
My 41 mph heater is waiting to be signed. My curveball goes around corners horizontally. I’m working on my blooper, I need a 3rd pitch.
SkipperLou
Probably the ‘ol Palm ball. Just make sure you shave it first.
YankeesBleacherCreature
A 35 mph change-up perhaps?
PaulyMidwest
Watch Max Meyer and Sixto come back and them have a nails rotation regardless of this rash f injuries. Weathers is near the tops in strikeouts so far in ST. The Marlins always find a way when it comes to pitching..them and the rays both.
revolver
It’s getting ridiculous. Fantasy leagues should just get rid of the pitching side and just focus on batting.
SkipperLou
Maybe we can have robo-pitchers too!. For the children
Marksman18
Bauer in Miami during spring break! What could go wrong? He said he’d play for league minimum. Get through injuries and release him if you want.
HEHEHATE
Ryan Weathers, your new opening day starter for the marlins on line 1.
Raysasineppswasplanted
There’s a thing called Pitching and consist of trying to dominate the offense with pitches that your defense will handle, induce ground balls, handcuff hitters, fool some with changing speed not necesarilly trying to hit 95-100 70% of your pitches. The later has become the main reason for too many too much arm injuries
Say Hey Now Kid
Bring back the sticky stuff.
Judd_Skinner
Greg Maddux could throw 95mph when he entered the league, but had no idea where it was going. He changed his philosophy and became arguably the greatest pitcher of all-time. He said he’d rather throw with 90-95% effort and know exactly where it was going than throw 95. Perhaps these new age gurus should take note.
Captain Dunsel
Walter Johnson and Satchel Paige, for starters, say hello
Judd_Skinner
I said arguably. However, Paige isn’t in the discussion.
brucenewton
Yankees will still trade for him .
BannedMarlinsFanBase
This has got to be the Garret Cooper curse.
I and all Marlins fans that bashed that guy are so sorry we ever bashed him. We hope this hex will be taken off our pitchers.
philliesphan77
Marlins need to hire a new conditioning department or something, jeez. At some point you have to admit you seemingly have a problem.
prov356
Another victim of the pitch clock. I think that makes 8 and we’re still in Spring training. So let’s shorten it some more, make these guys rush their deliveries more, and eventually we’ll have to use pitching machines because their won’t be a good elbow left.
unpaidobserver
I’m going to go warm up, just in case.
bigalcathey
So much for “managing” his work load last summer…
BannedMarlinsFanBase
Nope.
BannedMarlinsFanBase
Still a no.
leftcoaster
It should be Max time.