April 12: Boston announced that Story underwent successful surgery to repair his posterior labrum as well as an internal fixation of the fracture of his glenoid rim.
April 9: Speaking to reporters on Tuesday morning before the Red Sox home opener, manager Alex Cora said there is “concern” regarding the “bone structure” of Trevor Story’s shoulder (per Speier). Story landed awkwardly on his shoulder during last Friday’s game against the Angels and wound up on the 10-day injured list the next day with what the team called a “left shoulder dislocation.” The shortstop will meet with noted orthopedic surgeon Dr. Neal ElAttrache for a second opinion, with shoulder surgery a possibility (per Speier). Story will have surgery to repair a fractured glenoid, Red Sox chief baseball officer Craig Breslow told reporters (including Alex Speier of The Boston Globe). His timetable to return is roughly six months, so he will miss the remainder of the regular season.
According to Jen McCaffrey of The Athletic, Cora plans to run with a pair of platoons in the middle infield going forward. The lefty-batting David Hamilton and righty-batting Romy Gonzalez will split time at shortstop, while the lefty-batting Pablo Reyes and righty-batting Enmanuel Valdez share duties at second base. Center fielder Ceddanne Rafaela is another option for either position. While Rafaela already looks like a Gold Glove-caliber defender in center, the Red Sox have significantly more outfield depth than infield depth right now. Jarren Duran can slide over to center field, while Tyler O’Neill and Wilyer Abreu cover the corners.
Finally, Cora also mentioned that Vaughn Grissom will take reps at shortstop during his upcoming rehab assignment (per Pete Abraham of The Boston Globe). The plan is still for Grissom to primarily play second base (per McCaffrey), but he has plenty of minor league experience at short, and the Red Sox could be all hands on deck if their veteran shortstop goes under the knife.
Story knew right away he had a “significant injury” (per Christopher Smith of MassLive) but, as of the weekend, had not yet given up hope that he would return in 2024. Unfortunately, the second opinion he receives from Dr. ElAttrache could mark the end of his season. Brewers outfielder Garrett Mitchell needed surgery after a similar injury last April and returned for just the final four games of the year.
He’s not even a pitcher!
humb – Story has been injury prone his entire career, maybe he should have been a pitcher!!
Leo nailed it when he wrote the Sox have far more depth in the outfield than in the infield. Cora would be a fool to continue running out guys like Hamilton and Gonzalez when he could have Rafaela at SS and an outfield of Abreu, Duran and O’Neill.
Updating my non-pitcher chronically injured list:
3b Rendon
CF Robert
DH Eloy
SS Story
CF/DH Buxton
Add Danny Jansen to the mix.
Add Royce Lewis
Add Moncado.
Catcher Endy Rodriguez of the Pirates had season ending TJ surgery
Updating my non-pitcher chronically injured list:
3b Rendon
CF Robert
DH Eloy
SS Story
CF/DH Buxton
3b/? Bryant
Could easily add Mike Trout to this list
Forgot Judge and Stanton
Aldeberto Mondesi at SS to this list too
Fever, it’s was a known problem from the first day Bloom overpaid him knowing how fragile he was.
Meanwhile, Bogey had said he would’ve taken exactly what story got to stick around an extra 3 years further on his deal…. and he got insulted by a mere offer to convert his option year to fully vested, plus $10 million on top. And that was it.
Blooms blunders, the gifts that keep on giving.
Story didn’t start missing a lot of games until after he came to Boston.
Games played:
Colorado:
2017: 145
2018: 157
2019: 145
2020: 59 of 60
2021: 142
Boston:
2022: 94
2023: 43
2024: 8
First Tull, now Story, not good fortune for former Rockies shortstops.
GASox – So very true! Never forget.
I’ve got your back my friend.
espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/35265339/mlb-free-agency-r…
When Bloom signed Trevor Story to a six-year, $140 million contract before spring training last year, Bogaerts felt hopeful that an extension on his own contract might follow. One source close to Bogaerts said he would have seriously considered an extension similar to Story’s deal. Instead, the Red Sox offered Bogaerts an additional year and $30 million on top of the three years and $60 million left on his deal. For a player who helped bring championships to Boston in 2013 and 2018 and had grown into the team’s de facto captain, the offer felt like “a slap” according to a source close to Bogaerts.
Fever…. re-read Bogey’s deal from back then.
It was *never* a true “extra year” offered. The contract had 3 years left, PLUS a 4th year option @ $20m.
What Bloom offered was to say the team would replace the $20m *fourth* year option with a fully vested 4th year, picking up that $20 million, and, adding $10 million in new money.
That’s what was such a slap in the face. The ‘extension’ was nothing more than effectively exercising the option early and tossing a $10 million bonus.
That’s all.
For those interested, here’s a MLBTR link:
mlbtraderumors.com/2019/04/red-sox-extend-xander-b…
There was no *true* 4th additional year, as it wasn’t a *true* 6 year deal he walked away from after year three. It was 6 yrs plus a vesting 7th based only on an easily attainable PA target based on his actual results across his career.
GA: All of this concluded based on anonymous sources? No quotes from Bogaerts?
Suit, if you’re referring to my converting vesting option to guaranteed + $10m, it’s not speculation or annonymous:
si.com/fannation/mlb/fastball/news/xander-bogaerts…
If you’re meaning whether it was 160m or 200m of at what point following the start of the offseason, then after his opt out after the 2022 season, well, thats a whole different set of facts depending what point in time people are talking about as obviously there was some back and forth between thenlast game played and before he signed with SD.
GASox – I see what you’re saying …. wow, that’s awful!!!
And like the article said, all Xander wanted was a contract comparable to Story’s (just $20M more according to a relative of Xander’s) …. and BTW, Xander even had helped to recruit Story.
This was so reminiscent of the Lester situation. Exact same thing, both Lester and Xander badly wanted to remain in Boston and Sox management tried to take advantage and use that as leverage by offering both of them ridiculous lowball offers.
Shameful.
Suit: two quotes from the article I posted, direct from Bogey, and, it tells you where to hear the words from his own mouth via audio:
“The one in spring training was a little tough. I think it’s well-documented what the offer was,” Bogaerts told Cotillo. “That was a tough pill to swallow at that time because you’re hearing about extension talks so you’re looking forward to seeing what they’re thinking and what they’re offering. That was a tough one.”
“Way off,” Bogaerts said of Boston’s final offer. “They felt the way they felt. They did what they did. I have no bad feelings for them. I’ve seen multiple great players come through that organization who I’ve played with and they’re not there anymore. Some guys went from pretty untradeable to tradeable. That was eye-opening. It makes you see things differently, for sure.”
Then, referencing the post 2022 season negotiations it says this:
‘Bogaerts echoed those comments recently as well, saying that he had no hard feelings towards the organization. You can hear those comments here. For his career, Bogaerts is a .292 hitter with 160 home runs, posting a WAR of 36.1.’
The ‘here’ was a hyperlink to:
si.com/fannation/mlb/fastball/minors/watch-san-die…
GA: There are no dollar amounts in those quotes. Why should anyone believe the dollar amounts? I’m just saying you may be reaching a wrong conclusion if everything can’t be confirmed by Bogaerts or the Red Sox.
Suit: When bogaerts says its well reported and well documented what the offer was, and, everybody everywhere is citing the 90m value all year long, you can stick your head in the ground and pretend it’s not true, but, really it’s like trying to argue the sky isn’t blue purely because the blue you ‘see’ is just the reflected wavelength of light your eye registers and not the actual color of the molecules itself.
What do you think it means when he says “I think it’s well documented what the offer was” and every article and all the reporting is consistent it was to make it a 90m deal through the 2026 season?
I’d like to hear what that means to you? There’s plenty of ambiguous transactions through baseball, but, of the hills to die on trying to defend blunders by the front office and ownership in boston, thats got to be one of the toughest to attempt I can imagine.
GA: We don’t have any quotes from either side confirming the numbers. So, I think it’s fair to have some doubt. I don’t think I can say more than that.
Suit – so, you don’t have a single plausible explanation of what you think bogaerts was referring to when he said that he thought “its well documented what the offer was”… not even one at all?
I’m not aware of *any* conflicting reports of different values, and, more importantly, neither Bogey, nor Boras, nor Bloom, or anyone else on behalf of the Red Sox has to my knowledge ever said the 4yr/90m figures were wrong or misrepresented. That in itself is peculiar if it wasn’t on the mark, wouldn’t you say?
GA: I am not Bogaerts. I can’t elaborate on his quote. My explanation is that I gave you my criteria for believing something is true – havinq a direct quote with the numbers from one of the parties involved – which has not been met. It was reported that the Red Sox offered Yamamota more than $300M with no direct quotes from Yamamtoto or the Red Sox. It might be true, but we don’t know for sure.
cbsnews.com/boston/news/yoshinobu-yamamoto-boston-…
The best anyone can say without a direct quote is that something may be true. I use this criteria for each situation.
The Red Sox will likely never discuss numbers from a negotiation. That would be a violation of confidence and people would not want to negotiate with them.
GASox – Thank you!! Unfortunately some people here aren’t interested in the truth if it doesn’t fit their agenda.
GASox – This is how it works.
It’s true that ownership and management would never provide to the media specific dollar amounts from negotiations, and neither would players. If either side ever did, it would be a horrible look and a total breach of confidentiality and good faith.
So what do they do?
Someone from the Red Sox organization intentionally leaks the information to reputable reporters, as they did with Yamamoto. So “technically” the team didn’t comment on specific dollar amounts, just like Ohtani “technically” didn’t place any bets. Here’s an example:
si.com/mlb/red-sox/news/red-sox-surprisingly-offer…
Reputable reporters don’t make this stuff up, and they wouldn’t run with it if their source isn’t credible, because if they did they would be called out on it by the team and dragged through the mud and could even face legal action.
Players do the same thing. They won’t come out and say how much they were offered, but if they were insulted they may have the information leaked through family members, close friends or someone from their agent’s office.
Again, same thing …. if the reputable writer’s claim was fabricated, he would be facing a mountain of backlash and possible legal action.
So anybody who tells you “If there’s no direct quote, it can’t be reliable” is just gaming you. They KNOW a player cannot and will not ever come out and say “I was offered only X dollars”.
It’s a pathetic way for commenters here to try and “win” an argument, and it’s something that PR people in MLB front offices do all the time in public forums while anonymous.
GA: I am not saying it can’t be true. I am saying how I go about evaluating things and I can’t say I believe what you believe so far. You may be correct, but reporters can get things wrong and make things up. I don’t put a lot of trust in reporters. I’m not sure anyone pursues consequences when they are wrong.
GA: Actually, I think my approach of wanting better confirmation of facts is the opposite of pathetic.
Suit – I never said it was pathetic.
However, when teams face the MASSIVE backlash and universally negative press about your handling of a homegrown superstar, especially such a mild mannered guy who always did everything the right way – team player, clubhouse guy, a face of your franchise, no attitude, no lack of effort instead gave it all he had… dealing with *that* type of cornerstone, if something with that much of a bad look to how things went, if it *isnt* true, you get some type of protest, something vague, from the organization side. Something like ‘The reported terms of our negotiations with Xander don’t accurately reflect the type of back and forth that has occurred with his representatives thus far. Beyond that, we have nothing to add at this time.’ Something, anything, to save face. Even if it’s “an annonymous source with the team said…”
The leaked terms came from one of two sources: Boras (most likely) or someone in Bogey’s inner circle. What did it do? It pur immense pressure on the organization because it was such a bad look, meanwhile, it gave the player cover to abandon the fanbase/team that loved him where they understood why. The organization had nothing to gain by the release.
The agent won’t say the actual #s… he got his pressure already, nothing further to gain, and, plausible deniability – he DOES want to do business with them again. The player doesn’t even usually go as far as what Bogey DID say – they *want* that other party at the table to drive up bidding, even if they did decide to close the door on staying which, I’m not sure happened until the massive SD offer.
Fever – it’s like I said elsewhere too. Multiple reporters all have identical amounts and years. There no contradicting term of years and dollars either. Finally, there isn’t even an annonymous pushback saying ‘thats not a completely accurate picture of our discussions’ in the face of the massive blowback.
If a player tells me it’s widely known what the offer was, and, there is only *one* set of figures for value/years but it was being reported by pretty much *every* major source/reputable outlet, thats as close as you’ll ever get without a signed deal.
GASox – Excellent post as always!!
Yeah I get more than a little annoyed when some people try to “win” arguments by discrediting every source, even when there’s countless CREDIBLE sources all saying the same thing and the team isn’t denying anything.
I mean give me a break, what’s next? Lester never received a lowball offer either? I’m not gonna bother looking up the amount again because I know some people will automatically say “Lester didn’t say it, so that source is worthless!!”
Fever – Bogey and his handling will always stick in my mind without a need to revisit articles to remember how awful the terms were for one reason:
I always loved his story. From the year the rox signed him AND his brother out of Aruba together, to the bright friendly kid he was when he first came up, he did everything *right.* Class act till the end, he was a real face of the franchise for the club. Now we don’t even have one.
I think one part that bothers me a lot is, and, I get it, deciding to leave did fall on him *kinda* (despite how he was truly pushed out the door with how he was treated after his dedication to putting the team first all those years)… had he been one of those carreer one-team-guys, I honestly his stats in BOS get him into the HOF. Maybe not first ballot, but I think he’d get there. Even with the covid year he was only about .4 war/162 off the average, but, higher than Jeter who played 10 more years at only about 30 more war total. That one 60 game season will be taken into account when they look at things like that.
So consider those numbers when you think about HOF potential. 3 war/yr till age 40 leveled him with Jeter, who, was pretty overhyped near the end with AS nods he didn’t deserve based on performance.
GASox – Think of it this way, he’s surrounded by a much better lineup with a better chance of making the postseason …. so that should help his HOF chances, not hurt it.
But man, if I was in his shoes …. after how they treated him in 2022 …. I’d probably take LESS from another team. Respect is a big deal to me, he needed to teach them a lesson.
And BTW …. I’m guessing it angers you that Xander’s departure directly led to Devers getting that massive contract ;O)
Speaking of his brother, I still find it fascinating he was traded with Theo to the Cubs.
You and your facts.
For a SS that whose best year defensively rated him as about average, that offer was fair. Boston did him a favor by leaving him at short his option year. A good hitting 2B does not get paid like a good hitting SS. If Bloom had signed him, Boston would have been stuck with Bogaerts at SS forever.
Bloom was another clown who really worked under Andrew Friedman. Bloom sold a bill of goods to Henry and fouled the team up for 4 years finishing in last place 3 of 4 years. It was a low budget type payroll. Now we see that no one can play defense. What are they teaching in the minor leagues, foreign languages?
Luchinno was behind the Lester insult. I never forgot him for that blunder.
Wasted huge contract
Cora continues to confirm he is indeed a fool. Infield defense is in shambles but last night he continues to refuse to play Rafaela at SS or 2B, and it’s not like he’s playing GG defense in CF.
I don’t care if O’Neill continues to swing at pitches in the dirt, put him or Duran in CF. Do something to stop this tailspin Cora.
Fever – unfortunately, I think we’re seeing a pissing contest by Cora trying to exert his dominance vis-a-vis who is in charge with breslow.
I don’t doubt it’s as much about after 2024 as it is in season decisions. If Cora were to try to make that front office switch that was hinted at, he wants to drive home his footing now.
I do understand that there is a point to a manager having some independence in setting a lineup, which, includes who lines up where on the field. However, if a manager insists on, say, putting Devers on the mound, Houck in at C, and Casas in centerfield then you’d say the guy was an idiot and has to go right?
There *is* a point where someone needs to put this to bed and put Cora in his place.
What will Cora do with Reece, if anything, for making such a dumb decision the other night by getting thrown out of the game in the tenth with only one bench bat left (leaving the pitcher to have to bat off the 7-hole came around)?
That decision was almost as bad as when he was caught flogging the dolphin in public at Walmart.
Yankee – I presume nothing.
With Cora, if you’re on the favorites list you can get away with a lot on the field with no consequences.
Spanky has been in a bit of a slump, hitting .167 in the past week. Yet Wong, who is hitting a good 100 points higher than that (and who made the majority of starts last season) has seen his playing time cut comparatively speaking. And, this in spite of the whole lefty/righty balance thing where Wong is a RH bat and Spanky is lefty.
I do wonder if Cora’s Boston tenure is finally coming to an end. And regardless of whether this stuff has been his fault, partially his fault, or not his fault, Breslow should get to pick his own manager, imho.
Yankee – if it *does* come to an end, it will be because it’s cora’s choice IMO.
I still think Cora has some kind of dirt on something in the organization. Breslow may well pick someone different to be skipper, but, I think ownership is leaving an open door into the office side of things for him.
My hope is that Tek takes over as manager in 2025. At first he was only with the team in ST and as a special advisor, because he didn’t want to be obligated to travel with the team, so on so forth. These days he’s in a uniformed role, game planning coordinator, so, that self imposed restriction is out of the way.
The time to put Cora’s idiocy in its place was last season. That makes me wonder if Bloom tried and that’s ultimately why he lost his job. It clearly wasn’t performance because Breslow had the same awful offseason.
Wow and he wasn’t pitching either. What do you make of it ?????
It must be that dangerous pitch clock stinking again! Even the position players aren’t safe!
I’m still blaming it on the pitch clock.
Freakin’ pitch clock.
Damaged goods from start
Massive – But Story asked for $20M less than Xander, that’s all that mattered to Bloom/Henry.
Xander was far from elite until his walk year. And his skills at short are so strong that SD just moved him to second. They were insane to give him that much / that many years.
Bogaerts averaged over 5 WAR the 4 full seasons before he signed with the Padres. He was elite. Top 5 or 6 in baseball at his position.
Kim is one of the best defensive SS in the game and had a 5.8 WAR with a 110 OPS+. Of course they moved Bogaerts who has been just slightly above average to 2B. It would be like the Red Sox having Ke’Bryan Hayes. Devers would be the 1B or DH right now. .
Bogaerts is getting $25 million per season AAV. The Red Sox were absolutely moronic to not give him that much money. it has worked out so well being cheap instead.
His defensive metrics says otherwise. The red sox offered him 6 yrs 160 mil. He took the extra five years the padres offered him. And they only did that bc they had a hole in their pockets. After losing out on the aaron judge sweepstakes they went into panic mode and overpaided for bogaerts. You can’t blame the red osx for not wanting to match those years for a 30 yr old shortstop.
The rumor was 6/162 and the Globe backtracked on that almost immediately. That some Red Sox fans still use that to justify in their own minds why Henry/Bloom let Bogaerts walk is pathetic, Bloom and Boras both confirmed that the Red Sox final offer was over $200 million for 6 years with 2 option years. An AAV just under $35 million. Too little, too late.
Now he is a Padre and providing huge surplus value. As usual, being cheap doesn’t pay. Bogaerts or Turner was who I wanted Moreno to sign for my Angels, but he was cheap too.
Today we have a glove only Neto with a 48 OPS+ at SS for the Angels and I don’t know what scrub or platoon will be the Red Sox shortstop. Hamilton? Grissom? Gonzalez? Neither story, pun intended, will end well for our respective teams.
aggee – Xander was looking for only $160M when they signed Story …. the Red Sox lowballed him with a $90M offer.
Bake – He was an elite hitter for a shortstop. Yes he worked on his defense and improved his final year in Boston.
They never made a $90 million offer. The final was 6 years and over $200 million as confirmed by both Bloom and Boras.
You are all confusing the free agency negotiations with the pre-free agent negotiations that occurred the season BEFORE Bogey opted out, due to the lowball and disrespect.
Yes they are confusing them.
BEFORE he was a FA the Red Sox made a ridiculously low extension offer of 6/162
In FA the Red Sox best offer as confirmed by Bloom and Boras was over $200 million for 6 years with 2 option years. While neither gave an exact figure, even at $200 million exactly its $33.33 million AAV and I have heard several places including WEEI that it was for $34.67 million AAV.
The Padres signed him for 11/280 or $25.5 million AAV. Nearly $10 million less AAV than he was offered by the Red Sox, but $70-80 million more overall.
Padres took it in the shorts for the last 2-3 years of that deal to allow themselves to keep their CBT payroll down so they could sign other players or keep other players.
Today Bogaert’s contract is the 46th largest AAV and by 2032-2033 the $25.5 million per year he is being paid will not be in the top 100 contracts. Maybe not the top 150. Which is exactly why the Padres spread it out that far instead of paying the $33-35 million AAV the Red Sox were willing to pay.
I wouldn’t call it a “low ball”. They offered him that contract to see if he would sign a “team-friendly” contract. They did the same with Pedroia. I font dee any complaining about it. Probably bc he signed it. Pedroia wasn’t about the money and wanted to end his career with the Red Sox thats why he signed it. I don’t blame bogaerts for not signing the contract, he has a right to sign with however wanted to give him the most money. But don’t act like bogaerts wanted to stay in Boston, bc if he did he’d be here. The final offer they gave to bogaerts was more than reasonable.
“Bogaerts is getting $25 million per season AAV. The Red Sox were absolutely moronic to not give him that much money. it has worked out so well being cheap instead.” So you know they offered more money AAV but made this contradicting statement. That is wild. Lol
GASox – As always you are 100% correct!!
So much wrong information spewed around here recently, did you see the Jackson Holliday comments? All the wrong info is comical. They don’t care about accuracy.
That’s one reason why I’ve had to mute some people, it’s such a waste of time reading fiction over and over from the same people.
Agee – Bogaerts already signed a team friendly deal. To expect him to sign another one is ludicrous. That’s why that original offer was such a slap in the face.
Out – in spring training of 2022 bloom made an offer to Bogey to replace the existing 3yr/60m + 4th yr vesting 20m option (80m total) remaining on his initial team friendly extension, with a straight 4yr/90m pact.
That’s the 90m offer everyone talks about.
Then, when regular season play ends, bloom opened things back up with other offers – first a QO, then an exclusive negotiating window, then competing against all of mlb that, after multiple rounds of back and forth, peaked at the roughly 200m threshold.
GASox – I think sometimes when you are replying to posts, you are losing the “Reply To” above the input window.
That is causing your posts to appear as standalone, rather than as responses.
No big deal, it’s just kinda confusing when I see your responses to people I’ve muted and I don’t see the post to which you’re responding because they are muted. LOL!
And I give you credit for taking so much time and effort to educate others. That’s why I really enjoy your posts, you are very thorough and logical and support what you present.
As opposed to others who write just a few sentences accusing you of being wrong, with nothing to support their false accusations.
grnmtn – That was just one of several reasons why that original lowball $90M offer was such a slap in the face.
GASox correctly pointed out the 7th year option, but to me the worst part about all of it is the Sox giving $140M to an injury-plagued steadily declining player from another team and then valuing Xander at $50M less than him. It reminded me of the Moneyball movie when Beane thought he could easily replace Jason Giambi and Johnny Damon with players who cost less.
I know John Henry made his fortune trading commodities, but franchise cornerstones should never be treated like just another commodity.
Fever, I think it’s just what happens when you mute somebody. It’s also why I’ve only *ever* muted one commenter, who, for all I know was a burner account.
There are some here who I just can’t have a conversation with, and, thats fine. I generally decline to engage then.
There’s others, like Suit here. I don’t think he’s a bad guy, and, I dont think he’s *trying* to troll things or be negative. But I *do* try to engage to figure out the *why* of how some minds think here, even when I’m strenuously opposed to their viewpoint.
Sometimes I just scroll past some posts by certain usernames, even though I usually end up skimming the content. I’m a fast reader. Not that it matters, but, I naturally learned to quickly read upside down and even backwards in reflections as well, a great skill to have sitting across the table in a negotiation room LOL.
GASox – I’m certain that any replies to muted people do not show for me. Does it suck that I can’t see the replies? Sure, but it’s well worth not having to read worthless comments from the usual suspects. I don’t have a ton of spare time, I’d rather spend it reading and responding to quality posts for the most part. Occasionally I’ll engage with lower-quality posters, as long as they don’t cross the line.
I keep a lot of my experiences here to myself, but trust me when I say I have very good reason to mute the people I do. And if anybody mutes me simply because they don’t like my opinions, then I certainly don’t want to bother reading posts that I can’t respond to.
Your last paragraph just brought back memories of speed reading in elementary school, did you go through that yourself? I never did all that great, I think my speed was just average because I am very analytical and therefore spend too much time digesting what I read.
I know he did and it wasn’t a slap in the face. If you tell a team you want to retire with them, then they can ask you to sign another team friendly contract. I dont see the issue with that. If your goal is to make the most money then let it be known… Even Pedro admitted it was a mistake to tell the red sox he wanted to stay with them. They offered him an undesirable contract and he signed with the Mets. Which he still regrets to this day.
aggee – I totally agree (and wrote earlier) that players shouldn’t sound TOO enthusiastic to sign extensions, because some sleazy front offices (like the Red Sox) will exploit it with a lowball offer. Same thing happened with Lester and Arroyo.
But that doesn’t excuse the Red Sox trying to take advantage, and it doesn’t change the fact their offer was a huge slap in the face.
It’s not a slap in the face though. If he didn’t say that he wanted to retire in Boston and they made that offer, then that would’ve been a slap in the face. Bc if he didn’t say he wanted retire in Boston you know he is looking for the biggest contract he can sign. They obviously didn’t have a problem offering him more AAV than the padres. He just wanted a longer term deal hence why he signed with the padres. If wanted to stay in Boston he’d be here. Again, they did the same with pedroia and no one batted an eye, bc he actually wanted to retire in Boston and signed that contract.
Fever, I’ve just always read very fast in my head and processed the info quickly. Not photographic memory fast, but my reading speed is usually a lot faster than others around me. But, I do remember stuff like that, and, grammer, things they don’t even teach anymore (at least here.)
Heck, they haven’t been teaching cursive writing either of all things which is amusing to think about. It’s literally like a secret language to a bunch of younger folk now.
Aggee- you’re talking about a different offer than Fever is.
It wasn’t the FA offers competing with the Padres. It’s the 2022 spring training offer that did nothing more than add $10m and convert a vesting option into a guaranteed year, and, calling that an extension in exchange for wiping out the opt out potention on the team-friendly extension.
aggee10- if he didn’t want to stay in Boston then why did he sign a very team friendly deal under Dombrowski?
“If he wanted to stay in Boston he’d be here.” Is such an immature way of viewing any player’s contract negotiations. There was no reason to believe he didn’t want to stay here, all ownership and bloom had to do was make a respectable offer before he even got to free agency. Instead he got the b.s. “offer” from bloom…
There needs to be an option to muting—where you only allow specific commenters on a distinct list, and after a time those are the only commenters you see.
@Fever Pitch Guy And yet, Beane DID successfully replace Giambi and Damon, even winning 103 games the season after they left Oakland.
I’d say Steve Cohen is more fitting for that lesson, in the sense that he had no idea how to build a team year after year, and began 2021 with no plan, just ad hoc patching and filling that quickly resulted in the total debacle of 2023. .
Again, if wanted to be in Boston he would be. The red sox offered him more AAV and and took the deal with the most years. It doesn’t when he was offered a respectable contract..
GASox – You’re reading skills are quite impressive, have you ever explored utilizing them in a career? Proofreader for a writer immediately comes to mind, or reviewing legal documents for an attorney.
The cursive thing perplexes me, how exactly does the younger generations sign their own names when they can’t sign digitally? Granted checks are being phased out, but still …. it boggles the mind that people are using printed letters as signatures.
My cursive has always been excellent, exactly as it’s shown in educational material. But I admit my cursive skill is deteriorating, I cannot even remember how to write a cursive Q.
Fever & GA – my kid learned cursive last year so there’s still some hope lol
grnmtn – I agree 100%!!!
I would love to see aggee’s boss (if he works) tell him “We have to reduce your pay to minimum wage, if you want to work here you’ll stay anyway”.
Some people can be such hypocrites when it comes to criticizing players.
Jack – I think it’s a lot easier to mute the worthless posters than it is to list the good ones. Probably 98% of all posters I’m fine with, only 2% I’m not.
Plus with your suggestion you wouldn’t be able to see brand new posters.
Jack – That’s the fictional movie version of the 2002 Athletics.
Fact is, steroids (Tejada,etc) and the best Top Three starting pitchers in the game (Hudson, Zito, Mulder) is how they won 103 games. But of course none of those 4 guys was portrayed in the movie as important players.
Justice didn’t come close to producing as much as Damon did in Boston, and Dave missed a lot of time on the DL.
Jason Giambi continued to put up an OPS around 1.000 while Hatteberg was simply so-so offensively with an .807 OPS.
And Damon led the Sox to a WS title in 2004 while Giambi led the Yanks to a WS in 2003.
aggee – Do you REALLY not understand that AAV is meaningless when comparing offers?
Do you REALLY not understand the Padres tacked on several more years to specifically lower the AAV for CBT purposes?
Come on dude, study up more before calling out a knowledgeable poster like GASox.
It’s not meaningless… I know they offered more years to lower the AAV. I’m not arguing that. Bogaerts signed with the padres specifically bc of the amount of years they offered. That was my argument…..
Couldn’t even make it to April 15th…sad, man. Just retire already.
Maybe Story being an actual shortstop mattered to them also. If you improve the defense, you improve the pitching. Putting XB next to Severe on the left side was never ideal.
Ignore Fever he is a troll.
Bogey got 11/280 and was asking for more. Yet Fever states the Sox could have signed Bogey for 20MM more. than Story’s 6/140. Now that’s a lying troll who should be ignored!!
Jimi1950, I don’t see how he is trolling when in fact Bogey was asking for $300 million. The Padres were they only team willing to come close to his asking price.
Bogaerts was not asking for $300 million. Where did you get that bull from?
Oh, I ignored him a long time ago. He’s a disingenuous simp.
Jmi it does not take a troll to understand how awful that contract offer was to a guy who couldn’t hit outside of Colorado was. Story was supposed to take over for Bogaerts. Nothing about that was trolling, it was a horrendous decision that many pointed out on mlbtr when it finalized.
Bogaerts was asking for more AAV, but he was not asking for near as much total as he got. Fever is talking about a rumored offer for 6/162 that has now been thoroughly debunked. The Red Sox final offer was $208 million for 6 years.
The Padres gave him a higher total dollars to get a much lower AAV.
Pitch clock
Pitch clock effected a shortstop? Sure, whatever.
Pretty sure Maui’s sarcasm went undetected, APBA!
I blame the eclipse on the pitch clock.
And Pivetta to the IL… I blame the moon!
Hahaha!!!!
What was his name?
His name was Robert Paulsen
Mau – Exactly! Story didn’t have enough time to get set at his position!!
“Time to get set at his position”…Is it coincidence that Story is hurt(again)after Manfred lowered the pitch clock(again). I think not. Clearly, Trevor Story was injured because of greedy billionaires and a short sighted baseball commissioner.
mlb – Except Story lost significant time with injuries in 2016 (tore a thumb ligament), 2017 (SHOULDER STRAIN), 2019 (sprained thumb), 2021 (elbow inflammation), and 2022 (wrist fracture and heel contusion) …. and 2023 he spent the entire first half of the season on the IL because of offseason surgery.
So if you’re not joking, no the pitch clock had nothing to do with his prior injuries.
In fairness to Story, the dude was covering short and 3b…
DBH – You just reminded me of those old Bugs Bunny cartoons when Bugs would play all 9 positions by himself!
Wait. What do you mean ‘old’ bugs bunny
DBH – Haha …. true!
UFO’s full of billionaire owners are causing the injuries.
Could this be the next stratsburg contract bust ?
Trevor Story signed a 6 year / $140,000,000 contract with the Boston Red Sox, including $140,000,000 guaranteed, and an annual average salary of $23,333,333. In 2024, Story will earn a base salary of $22,500,000, while carrying a total salary of $22,500,000.
@Captainmike1 Currently Rendon is the next Stratsburg bust, but Trevor Story is making a good case. These guys want to sit out and get paid, its obvious to anyone with eyes. The real question is, who is a bigger dog, Stratsburg or Chris Davis
LFGMets – All of your uninformed, hot takes are busts.
LFG – While the Story contract was without question a huge blunder from Day One, he’s not a JD Drew or Rendon or Roger Dorn …. he’s not dogging it.
There’s no reason to accuse Story of not wanting to play.
“There’s no reason to accuse”…Exactly. Just because they never play is “no reason” to accuse guys like Kris Bryant, Anthony Rendon and Trevor Story of “not wanting” to play, right Wagner? Also, on an unrelated side note, even though all the evidence clearly pointed to him, there’s “no reason” to believe that O.J Simpson whacked his wife and her boyfriend.
Davis wanted to play too. He just stank
mlb fan – That’s the second stupidest comment I’ve read here today.
@mlb fan:
The OJ case is an absurd example.
If you have proof that any of these guys are faking their injuries, please provide it. That would be one of the top stories of the year. Otherwise, its meaningless conjecture that is no more substantial than a tabloid heading. You have no right to drag their names through the mud in such a way by implying they are defrauding their employers and the fans.
All guys WANT to have surgery. That way they can get paid while going through all that pleasure filled rehab. Don’t you know that? /s
Smdh… injuries are real. They’re almost always uncontrollable and unavoidable, but the sad thing is some fans hold it against a player when he gets hurt on the field while wearing your team’s colors. I said this elsewhere, but Story got hurt trying to make a play while trying win a game. We could all have a little more respect for that. Rendon? That’s a whole other story, and one I won’t get in to right now.
Gwynning: There are some players who don’t exactly rush back from injuries. Rendon and TA come to mind. Unlike players before 1972, they both have very fat wallets to sit on whether they play or not.
Good observation, Avenger. I would retort that those players (named and otherwise) are literal anomalies. We shouldn’t lump every single injury/injured player and/or injury-prone player into the same category, at least not without individual scrutiny. I, for one, see Story as a gamer. Perhaps “damaged goods” but he leaves his heart on the field. I respect that.
avenger – Story rushed back last year, and was horrendous at the plate (more than usual) because of him rushing.
@LFG-Story hurt himself making a diving catch. Stop with the BS post
These guys want to sit out and get paid
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You’re an idiot. And I don’t usually say that. I might imply it sometimes, to be polite. But you’re so stupid that everyone in this forum is stupider for having read your tripe.
Story is making a charge.
Can’t see any GM doing what Washington did wwith Strasburg, who never went a full season without missing half dozen plus starts before getting his huge payday.
Want to add horrid/terrible deals from the outset? Add bj upton and sandoval to the list.
How about Josh Hamilton?
What in the ChatGPT is this comment?
Crazy that after the 2019 World Series the Nats were deciding on spending big to keep either Strasburg or Rendon. They would have been screwed either way!
Pivetta just hit the IL with elbow strain
Couldn’t even make it to the first home stand before the rotation depth is exposed.
Now if only they properly addressed the major league rotation in the off-season….
Yeah, you said that on the other post as well. Reading something that simplistic once was bad enough.
Brewers outfielder Garrett Mitchell needed surgery after a similar injury last April and returned for just the final four games of the year.
So, Story will play in the World Series when they sweep the Dodgers.
hayzee – And Cooper Criswell will start Game 4 of the World Series with Joely Rodriguez clinching the title by striking out Mookie as he falls to one knee on the swing.
The biggest story will be Story Grand Slam in the ninth where he waves back to fair and then jogs around the base paths doing the Kirk Gibson fist pump.
If that happens do not ask for the Lotto Numbers!
But the important thing in his mind is, he still gets paid
Serious question here… why do some “fans” care what somebody gets paid? It’s not your money and it never will be. Why care? Very strange to me.
I think your asking a can of worms like question. But, that said, i think the reason people care about contracts so much is that it limits both the teams that FA players (and even some arb players ie Soto) can play for and limits how many of those kinds of players they can have. The LAD, NYY, & NYM fans don’t have to care about contracts. Their owners will pay whatever and can have any player they want, basically. And any number of them. Other teams it goes down from there how many stars they can sign. That’s why Boston fans are so upset, Story is eating up one of their “star” “payroll slots” by being injured all the time, cause he still gets paid. Boston ownership isn’t willing to just overspend to fix that issue.
Should be obvious. ticket prices, concesion prices. cost of about anything at the ball park goes up when salaries do. nothing happens in a bubble, tho some act like it does.
Fair enough, gentlemen.
Would ticket prices and hot dog deals go down if Story wasn’t a Red Sock? I’m not sure. But again, thanks for the insight.
JS
“ticket prices, concesion prices. cost of about anything at the ball park goes up when salaries do.”
You have it backwards
Salaries go up when revenue goes up.
If teams could charge more for tickets, concessions, etc and not give that money to the players they would.
Supply and demand determines ticket prices
filihok: More than concessions and merchandise, teams earn most of their money from TV rights.
“ticket prices, concesion prices. cost of about anything at the ball park goes up when salaries do”
No, they go up because there is demand. Totally divorced from salaries. Silly to think otherwise.
cost of about anything at the ball park goes up when salaries do.
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Generally speaking, prices respond to demand. If we doubled the payroll, we still wouldn’t double the ticket price, because the demand at that price point would disappear.
That’s only true if the stadium is selling out. If Fenway stops selling out, you will see empty seats, rather than see ticket prices drop. (Except on the 2nd hand market). Most teams play in front of 50% capacity, yet prices remain the same.
So, based on the supply and demand argument, the Athletics and White Sox should be dropping ticket prices. Not gonna happen, because that is not the only factor used to determine markup. Teams have to project attendance, and revenue, in order to factor in costs, which includes player salaries. The White Sox and Athletics didn’t spend on payroll, because they couldn’t project the revenue to cover the expenditure. Lowering the ticket price, however, may actually reduce the perceived value of the ticket more than it helps attendance. That would make it tougher to raise prices in the future.
Because they’re F’n jealous that someone is making more money in 1 month than they could in 2 years
Could be, Wins. If only some people took more cage time and grounders than making weird posts, then maybe we’d watch them play one day. Cheers
Winslow, I’m not jealous when anyone gets paid. I am glad Bogey got paid just glad we didn’t pay that much for him. I liked the Story signing and I don’t like that he has been injury prone since he got here. Why? because him being out for so long hurts the team.
I just don’t like athletes getting paid millions, flying first class, getting meal money, top notch hotel accommodations, food after the game in the locker room, the act like they’re being taken advantage of. They show up at the ball park and tell the manager they can’t go tonight because they have a twinge somewhere. Meanwhile Joe average has to throw down half a paycheck or more to see a game in person, or add to his cable package to stay home and watch games.
To a certain extent I understand your gripe, Birdie. On the other hand, I might suggest stop hatin’ on others and spend more consideration on building yourself up. You can have better, you just have to earn it. Let’s be real- the players lay their bodies on the line and the Owners charge you at the gate. Perhaps some of your contempt is misguided? Anyhow, all the best to you buddy.
I don’t like the owners either. I watch the free game of the week on Fox, and that’s it.
You should get a better job if $100 is half your paycheck. Obviously McDonalds was a bad career choice for you. Or is it Burger King?
Eh, I don’t like the notion of kicking a man when he’s down, BiL. For all we know he works 80 hour work weeks breaking rocks and digging trenches to take care of his family. The common denomitor here is baseball. The fondness for baseball makes us all brothers and sisters. Hopefully we can all pick each other up and win this game together just like teammates.
So you think the billionaire owners should keep all the money.
BM
“I just don’t like athletes getting paid millions, flying first class, getting meal money, top notch hotel accommodations, food after the game in the locker room, the act like they’re being taken advantage of. They show up at the ball park and tell the manager they can’t go tonight because they have a twinge somewhere. Meanwhile Joe average has to throw down half a paycheck or more to see a game in person, or add to his cable package to stay home and watch games.”
Try this on
Workers, whether they are millionaires or working for $15 an hour, can be taken advantage of. And they absolutely are.
Don’t want richer workers to have worse conditions, want all workers to have better conditions.
Between 4 tickets, parking, snacks etc. it’s well over $250, and God help me if my kids want a jersey replicating the player that is sitting out that night. Maybe it’s cheaper where you live there in bum ass nowhere, but that’s what it would cost here.
BM
“Between 4 tickets, parking, snacks etc. it’s well over $250, and God help me if my kids want a jersey replicating the player that is sitting out that night. ”
I too sometimes don’t have enough money to do everything that I want
That doesn’t mean that I want people to work in that industry to have worse lives
Also, as a person who has at least a basic understanding of economics I understand that supply and demand is what sets ticket, concession, memorabilia, etc prices.
And that players get high salaries because MLB generates a lot of revenue.
Revenue drives salaries, salaries don’t drive cost to the consumer.
You are literally cheering for billionaire owners to keep more money than the manual laborers who actually create revenue.
I couldn’t care less how the owners and players chop up the $26 I just spent on a ticket. But let’s not refer to the players as manual labor. I cleaned toilets in college for a short while, and played softball for fun.
Birdieman. Your post explodes what most posters on this board cannot get thru their heads. Games are just too expensive and no.. Demand isn’t why. If that was it? 30 teams would have 81 sell outs every season at home, with folks on miles long waiting list for season tickets and.. You guessed it.. Maybe 5 teams can just boast of constant sellouts, whether true or not. Exploding the demand myth.
When Ruth got his 100k salary (forget the yr) he proclaimed he had a better year than the president, meaning he made more money than him. Now? much of the population despise those who put jobs on the table so much, they love seeing everyone take as much as they can, all the while wearing blinders that it forces costs upward.
When did this backwards style of economics take hold in many? It makes -0- sense.
JB
You would be unlikely to last a season as a professional athlete
They are undoubtedly manual labor
With even less doubt than that, they are labor
Even minimum wage is more than $200/wk take home.
is
Where’d you get your economics degree from? Wherever it was, ask for a refund
Supply and demand has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with selling out every game. What?
“they love seeing everyone take as much as they can, all the while wearing blinders that it forces costs upward.”
Saying that people have to be poor so YOU can afford more is not great, you know
They literally are manual laborers so I will refer to them as such. You are associating manual labor with toilets, not me.
“Demand isn’t why. If that was it? 30 teams would have 81 sell outs every season at home”
It’s ok to just admit you dont understand economics.
“I just don’t like athletes getting paid millions”
You said this. Their labor brings in millions of revenue, so why shouldnt they get to keep it?
That’s only part of the equation. It’s the prima Donna attitude of saying they are exploited and finding ways to end up on the injured list and not playing.
So youre mad that laborers who do not have freedom of movement for six years complain about owners exploiting them and also mad that manual laborers get paid after getting injured on the job? Wild
BM
Searching the thread text, yours is the only mention of the word “exploited”
I, however, would say that young players are exploited – since they are not able to receive market value for their services
I don’t like the idea of people using a lie to complain about baseball.
Minimum wage workers here make $625/wk working 40 hours.
A general labor construction worker makes a minimum of $800/wk in 40 hours.
Hopefully he is not doing either of those and actually has marketable skills and is just lying.
In Connecticut an hour from NYC? Mets and Yankees tickets are among the most expensive.
Last night I bought my daughter 4 tickets to this Saturdays game at Citi Field for $146 including the $5.50 per ticket fees. There were tickets available for $25 each in the 500 sections. Directly behind home plate in the 500 section where she likes to sit the tickets were $31. The train in, 4 hot dogs, 4 sodas or beers, and a couple of Mister Softees for my grandkids and all total I may be out $250 with tickets. About 7 hours work at the average hourly wage for non-supervisor jobs in the US today.
When we lived in Jupiter and went to a dozen Marlins games a year we usually sat directly behind home plate in section 14 and our tickets were $75 each. Tickets in a comparable area at Citi are $200 or more depending on the day of the week and if it’s a premium game.
I do feel sorry for you that you make so little money that you feel you have to lie about this stuff. Do you need help finding a better job?
Where do you go to see a game, BIL? I have a family of five. Tickets, parking and concessions for $100 is far in the past. Don’t forget the convenience fees!
The media always made Trevor Story out to be one of the “great shortstops”, but frankly I never saw it.
Story without Coors is like Andreltron Simmons. Great defense. Bad bat.
Joe – Even his last two years in Colorado saw Story’s numbers drastically decline. All the more reason why Bloom’s Blunder was inexcusable.
Story is a solid defensive player but I wouldn’t put him in the same paragraph, let alone sentence, with Andrelton.
wow. MLB should hire you.
Strike 1, Steve. Remember our multiple choice lesson?
Concern with bone structure meaning that there is a shoulder fracture?
HIPPA, HIPPA
They added later that it is a fractured glenoid.
The batting handedness of Pablo Reyes and Enmanuel Valdez needs to be swapped.
That was hard to watch. You see him land weird with his arm stretched out then when he rolled to his back, it looked like his arm was limp.
He done
Did I hear right? Pivetta is now on the IL with elbow issues?
Correct
Bernadino was recalled.
Another reason we need robots playing this game. If a part is damaged, we can replace that part and the robot is playing again the next game. Then Robot Babe Ruth could still be playing, today. And we might see the first 10,000 mph fastball get crushed into the orbits of another galaxy.
Who else here ever played Cyberball? Let’s start the league up!
Is your comment inspired by the Twilight Zone episode (with Lee Marvin) of the Robot Boxers, set in 1974?
Old York: Uh, oh. You weren’t supposed to expose manfred’s grand plan, not just yet. First, robot umps. Next, robot players. When the technology becomes available, manfred’s gang of wacko scientists will be able to download actual player’s minds into the robots. Think of how fun it will be to see robot Mike Trout clanging to the plate. An hour later, the first pitch is thrown. Game on!
@avenger65
Watching robot Mike Trout is better than the real thing because I know that when I buy that ticket to watch them play, Robot Mike Trout will play all 162 games unlike the real one that will probably play 50 games.
Get with the Times! Holographic players generated by Chinese AI! The sport changes its name to Major League Baseball Entertainment. All games become scripted!
I’m down. I can replace a system board in a Dell 3190 with the quickness.
this is why Boston doesn’t want to sign free agents to long contracts. Gio, Story, Price, Hanley, Panda. Who is the last long term contract to work out? JD Martinez?
yet another example of a horrid bloom contract gone wrong…
DD
What an idiot Bloom is
Couldn’t even see that Story would fracture his glenoid in 2024
Most didn’t know what glenoid was, let alone that it could fracture!
$140 million guaranteed for a guy with potential structural damage. Guaranteed money.
Huh. Almost like owners take on risks and are on the hook regardless. Who knew?
If Gonzalez is coming up then someone is getting shipped out. Perhaps the end of the Bobby Dalbec era is nigh?
Dalbec was optioned to AAA last night
RSox, Dalbs was sent down last night and Gonzo brought up.
This story won’t end well
Seems like the Neverending Story
Not starting well, either lol
Rsox – Trevorending Story ;O)
DBH – Five years from now when Story is retired, people will say “remember that hot streak he had in May 2022” ….. he hit 9 homeruns that month, then that was all she wrote.
And I know someone here will say no chance he will be retired in 5 years, but this type of injury doesn’t bode well for middle infielders and he’s not nearly a good enough hitter to be a DH.
Trade him to Colorado for Kris Bryant
Did colorado ever offer him a deal? Or they let him walk? Just wondering if things might have turned out differently had he stayed with rox
Along with Arenado.
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Donate your paycheck to a homeless charity or BLM now Trevor
Hotdog: Or to Story’s Go Fund Me page. Trump, who is financially worth over a billion $, has 3 Go Fund Me pages.
Triple HOT!!!!!
Oh Wow. Dumb Luck I guess. That’s sucks for Him the organization for signing him. The team for not having his production everyone involved. And he made a pretty good play and was probably going to have a solid year for them. Damn
Jay – Just curious, what makes you think he was gonna have a solid year? Or do you mean just defensively, which I would agree with.
Solid not being superstar. But wild Guess, another year in Boston to become acclimated. Two years of injuries on his mind, something to prove. Probably would be close to 20/80 .265 maybe. Solid defense enough. I’d say for what a major leaguer needs to be at Shortstop, that sounds pretty solid. Worth the Pay ? He’ll never live up to that. And has been a disappointing signing since. That’s not his fault. Bloom.
Jay – I agree, for a solid glove shortstop I’d be perfectly happy if he at least got back to his last year in Colorado which was a .801 OPS and I notice your .265 is exactly his career BA right now ;O)
Story is a solid investment. Well done.
Thought he retired after COL – he has been playing Casper the ghost every season in Boston
brutal. I had high hopes for him in Boston
Enrico – I had high apple pie in the sky hopes.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenoid_fossa
For any others who were curious
Thank you. Now I don’t have to remember how to spell glenoid so I can look it up. Cheers!
wow, only a guy like Story could have THAT injury… Poor guy, I do feel for him.
Ouch. He literally broke the socket.
Giants can send them Nick Ahmed for a case of sunflower seeds and call up Luciano!
Injuries are turning into the Never Ending Story for Trevor Story.
This guy is a carbon copy of Tulonisky(?).
Tulonisky – did he write War and Peace?
Imagine what a waste of money, makes the Donaldson and IKF $50 million dollar joke the Yankees spent on SS seem like a bargain
It’s the pitch clock.
And curveball
Climate change.
Samuel Adams beer.
Billionaire owners in collusion
Story has the Hat Trick for injuries for 3 years in a row with injuries. Bad signing on Blooms part. He could have signed Bogaerts before he became a free agent but screwed him around with a low ball offer. Unfortunately a waste of 140 million dollars.
If Story doesn’t continue his career, it’s end of Story.
Feel bad for Story – brutal.
Wouldn’t surprise me is this turns out to be not just a season-ending injury, but career ending.
Lord – I totally agree, and already wrote as much. This type of injury doesn’t bode well for a middle infielder.
Hopefully this will speed up the debut of Mayer, let’s get him up here and see what he can do.
Remember how all the yankee fans were pissing and moaning when they decided to go with Volpe instead of Story
It was a decision I was 100% behind
Captain – I remember vividly. Back then I thought to myself, the Yankees letting Story go to the Sox is not a good sign.
As usual with today’s jocks, too much weight lifting and showing off in the weight room, being competitive! Hey, you are a baseball player, not a weight lifter….
He never said it, but I bet that’s how Miggie got hurt. Throwing the weights up with his feet….. launching it and then needing to catch it.
TOO MUCH WEIGHT LIFTING!
TOO MUCH WEIGHT!
BEING COMPETITIVE ABOUT IT.
Yes. That’s it! Now can you solve world hunger?
Yes. Stop paying baseball players insane amounts of money. Stop obsessing on Bob Dylan and the Grateful Dead.
Problem solved.
One rock and roll concert ticket can feed a family of five for 6 months!
Saber – What do you think of Ben & Jerry’s Cherry Garcia ice cream?
In case anyone is interested, this from the National Library of Medicine
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7608577/
doesn’t sound good,
Mike – You’re right, this injury doesn’t bode well for middle infielders and Story is not nearly good enough to be a DH. I think there’s a good chance he will be retired in 5 years.
Breaks my heart. Can’t wait to see you back out there Story.
Green – Where would Story play next year with Mayer at shortstop and Grissom at second base? Not to mention Yorke.
A fine problem to have, lots of infield depth. That’s a good question, I’m not sure.
Story is a hometown hero, and I would love to see the kid have another year before his best are behind him.
Green – I saw him in Arlington a couple years ago at a game, he had a lot of people he was talking to ….. funny thing is we were in the 3B club area which is below ground level, we heard him but all we saw were his calves and feet. LOL
Very cool, I ran into him once with my dad in Irving at a local car shop. His wife was getting the oil changed. He was in spring training with the Rockies at the time and just signed a 5mil arb contract.
He was decked out in all Rockies, calves had high socks covering them with the CR logos hahaha. Talked with my dad for a few minutes. He was chilling and sitting on the curb of a parking spot after I offered him a seat inside. Very chill and relatable guy. Wife was cool too.
DH?
DH will need to be populated by Bloom’s other genius signing in Yoshida. Neither of them really hit though (Story could hit at Coors and that’s about it).
What’s the story, morning glory?
This is where Bosox just slide Mookie over to SS to save the day … gave em away for peanuts, generational talent. LA loves themselves sum Mookie n he’s playing like he’s having fun. Tearing it up.
Hahaha! The Red Sox. I feel for you.
He made a great ranging play to his right, as he has the ability to do. Maybe his body can’t take the wear that his range brings.
toshiro – So you’re saying instead of him bringing a range, he should bring a microwave? LOL
Pablo Reyes bats from the right and Valdes is the lefty, Loved Pablo in his time w/Milwaukee.
Story should just retire and return the remaining money on his contract. What a waste of money, time and a roster spot. Nice signing, Mr. Henry.
Ellstory.
End of Story (at least for this season)
Unfortunately the Red Sox try to go cheap and it backfires on them. They could have had Bogaerts a lot cheaper the season before San Diego signed him. They lowballed him with an insulting offer like they did years ago with Lester. The Lester insult was Larry Luchinno. Then Genus Bloom thought he could sign Story at a discount and play him at second base then slide him over to shortstop. Story has been a bust for the money with his injury history. Every year missing clumps of time with the Red Sox. Don’t forget that these contracts are insured too so they do not loose everything. Unfortunately this team is awful and Breslow was a panic choice because no one wanted to work with Henry after what they did to Dombroski. Breslow is doing this on the “Cheap” at the direction of John Henry and is in way over his head. Red Sox fans are not Tampa low budget fans and they are not going to tolerate this and either is the media in Boston. This team will be in the basement by mid May. Welcome to the “Suck” Red Sox fans.
Al – The Red Sox lead MLB in Unearned Runs, that says it all.
I am very confident they will win today, but also equally confident they will lose tomorrow. Hopefully I’m wrong and they surprise me with a series win.
Al – And can we PLEASE finally get rid of Dalbec.
He is now hitless in his last 25 PA’s with just one walk and 16 strikeouts!!!
Dalbac hasn’t hit since before the playoffs in 2021. I still cannot believe that he hit over 20 homeruns that year. He was awful in the playoffs and has been since then. He shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near a professional baseball diamond. He is a triple AAA player at best and I think they were hoping a team would bite on him based on his minor league statistics. He reminds me of Sam Bowen in the late 70s a Pawtucket Player with great stats that never translated to the major leagues.
Al – Henry doesn’t believe in insuring contracts. He had a bad experience when he owned the Marlins trying to collect on a policy and since then he has been very outspoken about how (in his opinion) contract insurance is meaningless and a waste of money.
I did not know that about the insured contracts. Thank you. I stand corrected.
Sad story for the redsox
This team positively blows chunks. Thy are bad as bad can be. They are 2-6 in the opening home stand so far They are going to be like this the whole year. When the hockey and basketball seasons end the Red Sox will have a target on their backs by the media.