The Tigers are in agreement with Framber Valdez on a three-year, $115MM contract, reports ESPN’s Jeff Passan. The deal includes an opt-out after the second season, Passan adds. According to Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic, there’s some amount of deferred money. Jon Heyman of The New York Post reports that Valdez receives a $20MM signing bonus.
Valdez reunites with A.J. Hinch and gives the Tigers a lethal 1-2 pairing at the top of the rotation. He’ll slot behind Tarik Skubal atop a starting staff that suddenly looks like one of the best in the American League. They’ll be followed by Reese Olson, Jack Flaherty and Casey Mize if everyone gets through camp healthy. That’d push KBO signee Drew Anderson into a swing role, while second-year righty Troy Melton can either pitch out of the bullpen or wait in Triple-A for a rotation spot to open up.
The Skubal-Valdez pairing may only be together for one season, as the two-time Cy Young winner is a year from what should be a record-setting free agent contract. Skubal and the club went to a hearing this morning that’ll determine whether he makes $19MM or $32MM for his final year under club control. The arbitrators will not reveal their decision until tomorrow, and Chris McCosky of The Detroit News confirms that neither the Tigers nor Skubal’s camp are aware yet of which way they’ll rule. The Valdez pickup is an independent decision.
It’s the kind of win-now strike for which much of the Detroit fanbase has waited all offseason. The Tigers had a fairly conservative trade deadline, and their biggest moves before tonight had been retaining Flaherty on a $20MM player option and Gleyber Torres via the $22.025MM qualifying offer. They also brought back setup man Kyle Finnegan on a two-year deal and added Anderson and closer Kenley Jansen on one-year contracts. They’d done a decent job building depth but without pushing the chips in for an impact player in what could be Skubal’s final season in the Motor City.
Valdez brings the ceiling that Detroit’s other acquisitions had lacked. He’s a two-time All-Star who has finished top 10 in Cy Young balloting in three of the past four seasons. Valdez worked his way from an unheralded amateur signee to the big leagues in 2018. He spent his first two seasons working in a swing role for an Astros club managed by Hinch at the time. Valdez moved into the rotation permanently during the shortened 2020 campaign and has been one of the best pitchers in MLB over the last six years.
The southpaw has posted a sub-4.00 earned run average in each season since he became a full-time starter. He has been exceptionally durable as well, only twice landing on the injured list in his MLB career. He fractured his left ring finger when he was hit by a comebacker in Spring Training 2021. He was back from that injury by the end of May. His only other IL stint was a two-week absence for elbow inflammation early in ’24. He returned without issue and wound up making 29 starts between the regular season and playoffs.
Valdez is tied for 14th in starts and ranks fifth with 973 innings dating back to 2020. He has a cumulative 3.23 ERA in that time. That includes sub-3.00 showings in 2022 and ’24. Valdez was among the most consistent top-of-the-rotation starters in MLB — at least until the second half of his walk year. He posted an earned run average between 2.82 and 3.45 in each season between 2021-24. He topped 175 innings in each of the latter three years.
For the first half of last season, Valdez was on a similar pace. He took a 2.75 ERA over 121 frames into the All-Star Break. Valdez came out of the Break with two more quality starts and was sitting on a 2.62 ERA (a top 10 mark among qualifiers) as August arrived. He picked a tough time for arguably the worst couple months of his career to close his walk year. Valdez was blitzed for a 6.05 ERA with a dramatically reduced 17.7% strikeout rate over his final 10 starts. His sinker velocity dipped slightly, and opponents teed off on it in August and September. There’s no indication that he was tipping pitches, and it seems like the issue was mostly poor execution.
More to come.

Does this mean they won the Skubal hearing?
Or does it mean they’re gonna trade him? Lol
Definitely
They’re not trading Skubal.
What does “Lol” mean? It shows it’s sarcasm.
/s shows sarcasm
But it kinda makes sense to trade him now if he wants to maximize his value and get 400+ million dollar contract. Will the tigers give that to him? Genuinely curious about that cause if not why keep him when the tigers could trade him get probably a #3 pitcher back plus a few really good prospects. Is a cy young frontrunner on a ok team worth what he’s gonna make vs the tigers payroll limitations vs what his value currently is on the trade market. Personally I’d trade him in a heartbeat for the right package but im also not a MLB GM
LOL means, I’m a teenybopper.
Certainly grown men should not try to be a lol’r, it’s so 5 years ago…
If you don’t really know,
Laugh out loud.
100% sure they are trading him now, simply because Skubal will be highly agitated that the Tigers were willing to give Framber $38 million a year for three years and yet declined to give him $31 for one.
They have a chance at making the playoffs, why would they trade him.
Trade to who?
Teens don’t use LOL, they use emojis.
Where are all the Tiger fans saying fire Harris? They must be at the Movies watching Melania.
@gbs
Why wouldn’t they, depending on what they might get in return? They likely couldn’t find someone as good as Skubal but in terms of wins, they might get a package that could make an impact in 2026.
Why would they trade him after paying almost $40 million avv for Valdez unless they are getting an absolute haul from the Dodgers. My guess here is if Tigers win their case he is not going anywhere at least until trade deadline so either way Dodgers will get him for the stretch run to win their 3rd straight title.
Okay devils advocate, do you think the dodgers trade one of their rotation guys not named Yamamoto or Ohtani plus 2 of their top prospects right now who says no?
I think the Dodgers say sure. Roki or Sheehan? I think they would then immediately extend Skubal to $500M or something ungodly. Like the Glasnow deal.
I hope they don’t trade Roki though.
I would think so.
could be either. could mean they won it and are going “all in” in their opinion. or could mean they lost it, and feel things were said that may harm any chance of playing out the season
While we’re speculating, maybe Skubal lost and will be retiring tomorrow
Win or lose arbitration … doesn’t matter. He will not be a Tiger from 2027 on. Valdez will hopefully be the next Tigers Ace.
He may opt out, but 38 million seems like a stretch. I think he’ll stay in.
Good to see an organization like the Tigers making moves. Nice pick up Tiger fans.
If I’m reading these numbers right, Valdez is going to get $31.67 million AAV (depending on deferrals) plus the $20M upfront. In other words, Skubal’s asking price, more or less.
Interesting…
Wouldn’t it be the opposite? If they lost the case they’d maybe look to trade Skubal and replace him with Framber
And they try to go cheap on Skubal. Headscratcher…..
@Gone
It likely means Valdez had a heart to heart with the Tigers catchers and they’re good with each other. Maybe promised them all Rolex watches and a pledge not to be such a grinch on bad calls.
Tarik and framber..nice 1-2 punch – respect –
Theyre gonna trade Skubal now.
No way.
Way, lol!
No. Way.
Pray for Dillon Dingler
Haha. Good one.
Framber doesn’t hit starting catchers!
Might give “Dillon dinger” a new meaning!
loved him in boogie nights!
I liked Roller Girl more.
The O’s once again pissing down their leg
absolute shambles
And Zach Gallen going back to the diamondbacks🤦
That’s not certain
I think now, over at Camden Yards, the O’s front office is screaming at each other to get Gallen. Get anyone. Get something. Mike Elias and David Rubenstein should feel like Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette in the days before the Bastille.
It’s really not a big deal, bro.
Hahahaha!
Elias has completely mismanaged their contention window.
Do you really feel comfortable paying framber over 30 million a year?
Does it matter if they get into the World Series? It’s a good signing and it’s what they had to pay to get him. Detroit looked good last year and this should be a huge help every 5th start going into this season. Credit the management for seizing the opportunity.
Andres gominez makes around 25 — it’s all relative
My point is, The cost of doing business has gone up.
The owner of the Cincinnati reds and their 1.3 billion valuation can go cry in a bag of mallomars
Ps: I hope Detroit signs skubal to a 13 year 600 million dollar contract
The cost keeps going up… I don’t think it’s good for the game or the fans. Securing FV and the timing is on point for Detroit though.
Probably better than up their leg.
They’ve had a good winter imo
I remember up until about the beginning of last season so many people were defending Elias saying he had this plan and he knows exactly what he’s doing. I always said he was relying way too much on an unproven farm system. So many people just talk to me like I was stupid. Lol.
Exactly. Job 1 yet again was a top of the rotation starting pitcher. Failed yet again.
This is tough. Respect to Polar Bear, but the pitching situation is feeling like like year’s pitching situation.
Won the arb hearing? Or anticipating a Skub trade? Or just rolling with both no matter what? Hope it’s the last one.
According to The Detroit News, verdict will be announced tomorrow.
Skubal won’t be traded.
You seem pretty sure. How was the hearing?
It will be the last one. Skubal Valdez is a nice 1-2 punch and the rest of the rotation ain’t too shabby, expect them to be competitive in the AL Central.
All you have to do is threaten a player that the Pirates are interested and they sign quickly elsewhere. Nice work, Pittsburgh!
I think it’s great that Tigers fans are puffing out their chests these days. After being a doormat for so many years, gee, maybe us Pirates fans can do the same in 2040 or so
im sure the Pirates were a close runner up
So were the Rockies.
Yikes those two monsters pitching
Great pickup! A 3 year deal for Valdez like this is crazy AAV. Good for the Tigers to step up. I really like this because it also bridges the gap. Good luck there, and hopefully you don’t plunk Dillon!
My central picks changed in a second. It’s Detroit now.
Where did they get that money from?
Clearly by not paying Skubal the 32MM that he filed at.
$32 million is peanuts for Skubal. Whomever lands him in 2028 ( 2027 season will be lost) is going to have to pony up minimum $50 million avv for Skubal over 7/8 yrs. Skenes is going to shatter the record once he a FA after 2029 season that will see him get 9/10 yrs at $60+ million avv
Nobody will pay a real pitcher that. 1 pitch can take them out for 2 seasons.
Can’t tell you the last time I spent 115 million. Several lifetimes ago.
I want 115 million. I’m not even sure if my wallet has $115.
But you might have the equivalent of $115 future deferred dollars? I heard that’s all that matters these days.
Valdez is earning more than $115.
Helluva move
Lmao think they’ll extend Skubal after this ??
Uh, no.
I think Skubal getting traded with this timing…
Doubt it. They’ll ride him until the deadline and decide how the year is going.
Agree 100% since $32 million is even a bargain on a 1 yr deal. Only way they trade Skubal is they fleece the Dodgers for a massive pkg plus under NO circumstance does Boras allow Skubal to sign an extension unless it’s a monster contract with NO deferrals!
Not. A. Chance.
Why in the world would they trade Skubal? Framber just increased their chances of going deep in the PS. Trading Skubal would reduce those chances greatly. What would be the point?
Replacing him with an ace and loading up on more talent before he leaves for free agency. Still don’t think the tigers have anything close to a serious contender with their lineup. Valdez allows them to compete while getting experience for their young bats.
I certainly hooendormTigers dans’ sake they keep Skubal and ride out that 1-2 punch this season. But how do you think Skubal will feel about the Tigers offering what they did in arbitration and then seeing them hand Valdez $38 million a year? There was speculation of Skubal for Roki Sasaki.
*I certainly hope for Tigers fans’ sake* 😔😂
You certainly what ?
Poor Tigers dans’
Did you just “speculate” that?
x.com/DodgersNation/status/2018882270287790174/pho…
Ridiculous.
Pay Skubal $32M or Valdez????
Can’t see them trading Skub out for Valdez.at about the same price out of spite. Must be both.
Outstanding signing Detroit! Well done!
Detroit finally spending!
You won’t pay skubal but you’ll pay this jabroni. Ok
Skubal is going to be the first $400M pitcher. This signing is for this year and the next two.
The first $400M pitcher, but not with the Tigers.
Skenes going to be the next $550 million pitcher in 2029 entering his age 28 season! He will shatter Skubal record.
Ya this doesn’t make sense to me either. Skubal for 8/$400m has to be better than Valdez at 3/$115m..
The only way this is better is if they think Skubal is a max effort injury risk but even then it might not be better.
Guess the Orioles plan on using Alonso as their ace
I heard he was working on a sweeper.
Nice work Tigers. In a post Tucker and Bichette contract world to make this happen for optimal term……nice work.
Skubal arb was today I would guess he is traded by mondsy as return was likely based upon arbitration result
Nope.
?
Passan says neither side knows Arb ruling yet. So, no, if you believe that
Many flimsy Morosi types out there—Passan ain’t one of em.
Can somebody ask gbs to explain himself ?? (He blocked me.) He keeps saying they won’t trade Skubal but doesn’t offer any reasoning.
@gbs42 please explain yourself why don’t you think Detroit will trade Skubal
On the bright side, at least us Rangers don’t have to face him anymore more than usual.
Same with Mariners.
Brown doesn’t have the same type of success against Seattle. The Texas offense just sucked this year. I remember when Brown tossed 6 no hit innings and then Arozerana hit a grand slam and then Bryan Abreu blew the save. It was bad.
Lol. Tigers know they are about lose their arb case to Skubal. Probably signed Valdez with the intention of trading Skubal.
Nah
Awww yeah!!
Ford Framber Fastballs coming at a catcher near you.
I guess that means that the Pirates aren’t signing him
The Pirates true signings, are the friends we made along the way.
It’s the journey.
This isn’t to hate on Pittsburgh but if I were a top end free agent I would be wary of signing there too. They haven’t taken winning seriously in a long time. In my mind I wouldn’t be sold that they are committed to winning for the duration of my contract. I think if they go for it again next year after having a winning season their fortunes on the free agent market will be different.
More importantly, they almost certainly didn’t offer 3/115.
Detroit finally showing some effort.
Did anyone see $38 million AAV for Valdez ?
Obviously the deferred money will bring that down a bit in “current money”.
It means Skubal wiil be trade soon…
nope
The Mets have the pieces to trade for skubal
So do the M’s
Mariners wouldn’t like the cost as an AL team.
Nope!
So it’s World Series or bust for the Tigers? I really would like to see them keep Skubal/Valdez as a 1-2 punch but I also have trouble seeing the Tigers pay Skubal $32 million. I think they should trade him to the Dodgers or Mets and they will get a River Ryan or McLean in return to maintain a 1-2 punch.
Not to the Yankees!
Felicidades Framber!
I’m just surprised at the dollar figure although at this time they haven’t announced if any of it is deferred or not.
As a Jays fan, the only thing I have to say is phew!
…do we check back in with Chris Bassitt’s camp?
@The House That Moseby Built
Fangraphs has the Jays with 6 SP’s, Lauer in the pen as the longman with Teideman and Francis for depth in AAA. They need BP help the most, not another starter.
? Wait
Is that over $38M/year?
Yikes!
Should have hired the Superfife!
Paul’s is local and there’s one on Clifford….
Let’s see where they trade skubal to? Toronto? Yankees? Mets?
Seattle…if he can’t beat us, join us. Hes a terrific talent.
Mets, because who he can’t beat is Polanco.
God, that was so clutch. He had a nice bounceback year for us in general, but I’ll love him forever for what he did to Skubal in that series.
Hopefully Refsnyder can fill those shoes if we face him again in the PS. 🤞
Send back Kirby as part of the deal.
Mets
Dodgers. Book it. Either way he’ll be in Dodger blue in 2027 cuz aint nobody going to shell out as much dough as they will. Certainly not John Stanton. God I’d love to be wrong…
I could see Skubal dealt to the Padres come the deadline. They love to wheel and deal.
AAV double what the Tigers offered to Skubal in arbitration 🤔.
Arbitration is not free agency…
Welp I was wrong on that folks wouldn’t want to sign him for years with that rotten attitude.
That said…COULD a Skubal deal be imminent I wonder? it would make more sense to me if so.
I think the team wins the hearing, holds Skubal and makes a run at a ring.
Team losing the hearing and trading him to the Dodgers, who immediately extend him, would be more fun though.
I fear the latter is happening. Everyone would lose their minds lol.
Omg I think they did something right
With time running out before the start of ST, this AAV and years is what I’d imagined he’d end up getting, as I thought about it yesterday. Except I didn’t imagine he’d forego getting an opt-out after year one. That surprises me. I thought he’d get the two opt-outs.
Strikes me as a very nice set-up for the Tigers. Good on them!
With the $20M bonus if the remaining $95M is evenly distributed he got a very high AAV for those two years.
We’ll see what the deferrals amount to. That’ll mitigate some of the real cost. Tiger fans just have to hope that he does opt-out, two years from now.
Nice to see them picking up one of the top free agents. It will be interesting to find out tomorrow what happens with Skubal’s hearing and whether it results in him being traded. if he stays and Flaherty bounces back they will have a monster rotation this year!!!
Not trading Skubal because of $32M, then signing Valdez for more.
Does not compute. Does not compute. Does not compute.
Congratulations Pirates! You tried! A big off-season full of trying. Pittsburgh gotta be Central favorites with all that trying.
Valdez signs with Tigers
Dodgers trade for Skubal
2026 season over
Can’t wait for Skubal to sign with dodgers next year for 10/480M with 350M deferred… just wait
Would have to be 10/580 or more with that much deferred.
Extremely possible with the way LA has taken a sledgehammer to MLBs salary model
I’ll be curious to know how this compares to what Baltimore was offering.
Less years guaranteed for only slightly higher AAV? The longer he lingered on the market. The more apparent it was becoming he just didn’t want to pitch for Baltimore.
He says without knowing dollar figures of other teams offers. Valdez never seemed like a good fit here and I thought that was a nice puffed up media piece.
The Orioles don’t leak much actual information about their specific targets.
He’s the one pitcher out there who would have upgraded the O’s rotation.. Durable LH and a groundball machine.
Ground ball machine behind a bad infield defense. The O’s haven’t prioritized defense at all. I hope Albernaz fixes that but we also added Polar Bear and Ward. Not exactly 2 guys who stand to make you better defensively. Holliday was awful at 2B and Gunnar’s best position is very likely 3B.
I never liked the Valdez fit. He was just the best of what was left.
So they paid Valdez $38M+ but they don’t think Skubal is worth $33M???
20 million is signing bonus but yeah, doesn’t make a lot of sense to alienate the guy you had already
Now Skubal to O’s for Mayo, Ruschman, Kremer and Kherstead.
Who says no?
Valdez is a way overpay. Glad O’s let him go bye bye and didn’t pony up the cash.
Skub Framber Jobe Melton in 27 is Ridiculous Nasty Heat
So much for Rosenthal’s rumor that the Pirates were the most aggressive bidder on Valdez. Does he ever tell the truth anymore?
He was running a bit behind his click quota so needed to juice it up
But it was supposed to be Baltimore or Pittsburgh or Toronto. 🤣
They were smart not to pay this price
Unless he magically turns into Jordan Montgomery this appears to be a great signing for the Tigers.
They have the best pitcher in the AL (walk season), beefed up their bullpen this offseason, and have some very intriguing young talent set to debut this season. Could this be their season???
Has Jordan Montgomery signed anywhere? Hmmmmm. That is an Arte type signing.
So the tigers who are in an arbitration dispute with the b2b cy young winner just paid more money to a worse pitcher than they would be paying Tarik if they won.
Dammit, the Pirates were so close 😉
DAMN!!!
It’s about friggin’ time…
Team that isn’t going to win, still isn’t going to win. Good chat
and people were saying that the Bluejays overpaid…
They did. One both could be true, two the Jays gave Cease 7yr which is a huge difference, three short term deals are always accompanied by a higher AAV because the length is very favorable for the team, four Valdez is definitely more consistent and a safer bet then Cease and IMO he’s just a better pitcher period. I’d definitely label the Blue Jays an overpay before Detroit, the Tigers at least know they will get solid return on investment for most if not all of the deal, Toronto can not say the same thing.
Yes sir!!!!!!
As a Die Hard Tigers fan I am freaking pumped!!!!!!
Welcome Framber!!!!!
Congrats to you! He seems like a great player and a fantastic pairing with Skubal
Great signing for DET, however let’s translate here. This is showing Skubal that this is as much money as they will spend on a front line starter. They will attempt to win this year but they will not be able to sign Skubal and i firmly believe they won’t trade him. Read between the lines Tiger Fans, this is his replacement
This signing just made the Tigers favorites in the Central. Skubal and Valdez is just a filthy 1-2 punch.
Wow! Nice move by the Tigers.
Here’s hoping Colt & Parker have career years
Baltimore, WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
Being financially smart. This is not the guy you pay that much money to
Another guy who got way less years than he was sold by his agent to be expecting.
Big move for Detroit. They have a great 1-2 punch now. Tough to beat in AL Central.
Skubal to dodgers….Sasaki+ coming back.
Why wouldn’t either team do it?
dodgers don’t care….they’ll just re-sign Skubal,or just go and pay some one else next year.
Just curious how insulted Skubal must be feeling right now.
Spectrum Scott it remains until no longer scared to trade.
Maybe Harris signed Skubal to an extension today for 5/300. I think if Framber is worth 38 Skubs is worth 60. Price of terrible Pizza will skyrocket!
Nice signing for the Tigers but nearly 40mil per for a mid 3 ERA guy. Wth! Somethings gotta change
I know it’s only 2 guaranteed years potentially 3 total but interesting they are willing to give a 32 year old outsider $38M a year but low balled Skubal during extension talks while also negotiating him so hard during the arbitration process? If they tacked on 3 years for the age difference plus another year for the discrepancy in talent we get a 7yr-$265M deal, let’s lower the AAV to a round $35M being after all it is 7yr compared to 3yr, so 7yr-$245M. Wasn’t the last known offer from them after his 2024 season and something like 4yr-$100M? Just very interesting they would come in so low on their own CY Young winner then a year later give a 32yr old that high of an AAV, even if they came close to that 7yr & $35M annual deal after his first CY Young he might have considered staying.
Well I definitely don’t fault the Pirates to try to compete with that price…holy overpay. I can’t even imagine what Skenes and Skubal are going to command on the market…
The Pirates and Orioles both deserve to miss the playoffs because of this. The Tigers deserve another shot.
Oops …I thought the pitching V the Tigers were going to sign was Verlander.
This is much better!!!
Crazy how many people on here don’t realize Framber number can’t be used in direct correlation to what Skubal or Skenes will get. Framber is short term so his AAV is inflated, I’m sure Skenes could sign 3yr-$200M but will be get $66.67M over a 8-10yr deal? Absolutely not. That’s your difference, Skubal was already looking at well over $35M AAV long term, I don’t think Framber deal changes anything or will even be used as an example during his FA negotiations because of the context and the fact he was going to beat that number anyways, same goes for Skenes because his AAV will be even higher.
I have no idea why people assume Skubal is getting traded. With Framber they have a much improved shot at going deep in the PS. I can’t imagine that a Skubal trade would improve their chances this season. They are a better team with Skubal.
I’d assume the Tigers, after signing Framber, are going for it this season, and would not want prospects. Any team trading for Skubal would be in win now mode, and would want to trade prospects, not an MLB level asset. The Tigers trading Skubal now, just doesn’t make sense to me.
Hopefully Detroit is loading up rather than pre-replacing Skubal in preparation of trading him.
Or, conversely, I hope Detroit is pre-replacing Skubal in preparation of trading him to the Orioles.