The Padres announced that they have placed infielder Xander Bogaerts on the 10-day injured list, retroactive to May 21, with a left shoulder fracture. Outfielder David Peralta was selected to take Bogaerts’ place on the active roster. To open a spot for Peralta on the 40-man, right-hander Luis Patiño was transferred to the 60-day injured list.
Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union-Tribune previously relayed on X that Bogaerts would be going on the IL and a follow-up tweet provided more information about the fracture. At this point, it doesn’t appear as though surgery is required, though Bogaerts will need to miss time as the bone heals, with more tests planned for today. “Late summer” is floated as a possible return time, which leaves a lot of vagaries about the months to come, though Acee says Bogaerts will be out at least two months in a column at the SDUT.
On Monday, Bogaerts appeared to injure himself when diving to field a grounder off the bat of Ronald Acuña Jr. (video link from MLB.com.) The initial imaging was negative, as relayed on X by Acee on Monday, but it seems subsequent tests have revealed a fracture.
The veteran infielder wasn’t off to a good start this year, currently hitting .219/.265/.316 for the season, but has been far better in the past. He hit .285/.350/.440 for the Friars last year and produced similarly for the Red Sox in the five prior seasons.
The Padres would have been expecting Bogaerts to right the ship in the coming months but that won’t happen now, at least not soon. The club is below .500 at 25-26 but nonetheless currently holds the final Wild Card spot in the National League. They will have to try to cling to that spot without that Bogaerts turnaround in the weeks to come.
The club recently acquired infielder Luis Arráez, largely with the plan of putting him in the designated hitter slot. But he’s played second base since Bogaerts hurt himself and could stay there for the foreseeable future. Arráez is one of the best contact hitters in the game but is generally considered a poor defender at the keystone. Bogaerts just recently moved to the position from shortstop and has -2 Defensive Runs Saved this year but four Outs Above Average.
Offensively, the club may now rotate various hitters through the DH slot if Arráez is going to be playing the field regularly. The past two games have seen Manny Machado and Donovan Solano DHing, with Jurickson Profar in there today.
The 36-year-old Peralta joins the outfield mix alongside Profar, Fernando Tatis Jr., Jackson Merrill and José Azocar. It was just over a week ago that Peralta opted out of his minor league deal with the Cubs, which led to a minor league deal with the Padres over the weekend.
With Triple-A Iowa, Peralta was drawing walks at a 14.1% rate but slashing just .217/.341/.348 for a wRC+ of 84. He’s also coming off a down year in the majors, as he hit .259/.294/.381 with the Dodgers last year for a wRC+ of 82.
But Peralta has hit .279/.335/.450 overall in his career, which translates to a wRC+ of 108. He’s also been considered an above average defender in the outfield, mostly in the corners. His lackluster results last year may have been due to a flexor tendon injury, which popped up around the All-Star break and later required surgery. The Padres will surely be hoping for Peralta to return to his pre-2023 results.
Peralta is in left field tonight as Profar is in the DH slot. As mentioned, manager Mike Shildt could give various players DH time for semi-rest days going forward. Though with the Arráez trade, president of baseball operations A.J. Preller has shown he’s not afraid of a midseason deal, even if we’re nowhere near the deadline yet. Perhaps another move will be forthcoming as a response to the Bogaerts injury. But for now, it’s a tough development for a club in an extremely tight playoff race.
As for Patiño, he underwent Tommy John surgery just over three weeks ago and is going to miss the remainder of the season.
PhinsPhan
sending condolences as a redsox fan
damancash
Sends Gleyber Torres as a Yankees fan.
PhinsPhan
I’ve been discovered
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
Sends every overweight blue jays player (they went ham in the buffet again…)
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Tough break for Padres’ fans everywhere
semut
He wasn’t hitting for crap anyway
PKCasimir
As a Red Sox fan my condolences are to Red Sox fans who lost a home grown-developed all-star shortstop to a bunch of moron San Diegans who gave him a contract that ranks as one of the dumbest in major league history, and that’s saying a lot.
Gwynning
Yes, let’s lump every San Diegan into your whimsical catagory, PKC… because everybody knows San Diegans signed Bogaerts and not the one person in charge of contracts.
1984wasntamanual
He said, ” a bunch of moron San Diegans”, not all. Your victim mentality is embarrassing.
Gwynning
Listen ’84, PK being a knucklehead has no bearing on my being; hence, no victim. Your projection is the only thing embarrassing here now.
Joemo
PKC – don’t blame SD for overpaying. Blame Bloom for failing to extend him or trade him and get something in return. He also signed Story for some reason.
Brew88
PKC. Hope you’re age 8 or less. If not my condolences.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
PK
My condolences are to people who get cashmere sweaters as gifts. Boston has a cheap owner for a valuable market. Bloom has a poor plan for the resources he does have available. So, don’t “sweat it” and dump on random Padres fans who have no team personnel decision-making authority, just like every other freakin’ city!
all in the suit that you wear
Manny: I’m not defending PK, but I don’t think the Red Sox are cheap. Their CBT payroll is at $218M now. It also looks to me like Bloom made the right decision about Bogaerts.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Suit
I am not suggesting that Red Sox should have matched Padres offer for Bogey.
But imagine Red Sox with Mookie instead of a broken Story.
usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2024/04/03/mlb-team-…
all in the suit that you wear
Manny: Agreed. It would be great to still have Mookie in Boston. It looked to me like Mookie was determined to test free agency, so the Red Sox traded him to get something in return. Mookie said in 2019:
“Just because you go to free agency doesn’t mean you don’t want to be somewhere. It’s just a part of the business.”
masslive.com/redsox/2019/07/mookie-betts-boston-re…
After he was traded, I think Mookie got cold feet about free agency due to Covid and signed with the Dodgers. There was uncertainty about the future of player salaries with no fans at the games. That’s my take about what happened with Mookie.
Fever Pitch Guy
Manny – The Red Sox matching SD’s offer would be even dumber than the extension they offered him 9 months earlier. Can you imagine how it would look giving him $120M more than what he wanted just 9 months earlier?
How ironic the Sox gave Devers just $15M less than what Mookie got 2 years earlier. There is no question he would have accepted the same offer from the Sox that he got from the Dodgers.
Shadow Banned
Exactly why I want Mookie Betts in the outfield to avoid these types of injuries
Rishi
We did just see a player fracture their shoulder and tear a shoulder ligament while running into an outfield wall. Acuna (who hit the ball to bogaerts) himself tore his ACL in RF.
VegasSDfan
Can we trade him back to you plus some cash?
Fever Pitch Guy
Vegas – Only if you take Story’s entire contract in return.
CrikesAlready
Bad contract from the time they offered it to him, AJ Preller strikes again. Overpay for an old guy who does seem to carry a little bit of a selfish attitude around, he earned his money in Boston, not in San Diego.
RunDMC
Don’t you think that was Seidler influenced?
I Believe We Can Win
It was. Seider was desperate to win a championship before his death. Knowing he passed away so suddenly it made sense why they were rushing things and trying to win it all giving out huge contracts and trading prospects away like candy. He was a two time cancer survivor and back in september he underwent a medical procedure. So im sure given all these factors he knew he only had a certain amount of time to win it all.
JackStrawb
Maybe I’ll catch hell for this, but wrecking your team’s future for your own sake, strikes me as profoundly selfish.
The “It’s my team!” howl, rather than “I’m a fortunate steward operating on behalf of my fellow fans.”
—-What happened to, “let me leave behind the best future I can for millions of fans of this team”?
I Believe We Can Win
“Maybe I’ll catch hell for this, but wrecking your team’s future for your own sake, strikes me as profoundly selfish.”
Id argue the opposite. Trying to win a championship for the city + fans is far from selfish. If he say made the Padres payroll the A’s payroll and cut costs as much as possible to hoard his money before his death as much as possible, Id agree to an extent that he would have acted selfishly.
But spending his own money to bring a championship home for the franchise and fans definitely isn’t selfish. He paid a lot in CBA taxes to give the Padres the best chance at winning it all. He didnt have to do that.
3 finger split
Peter Seidler was everything but selfish and he was okay with the contract. He was worth billions and how he chose to spend his money was his decision and all he wanted to do was to bring a WS trophy to San Diego and make the Padres relevant and give the fans his best effort….that doesn’t even come close to the definition of selfish.
Tell me a team that hasn’t missed on a contract at one time or another and I can tell you that the list is zero.
Bogaerts will be fine and he will heal up. San Diego made some good moves in getting more players and depth on the roster…Arraiez, Solano and Peralta will help for sure and for any team that has designs on the post season they need to avoid the three “I’s”….Injury, Illness and Ineligibility…every team will have at least one of these things happen. The good thing is that Boegaerts will be back this season and hopefully he will be able to contribute in a positive way
Rishi
While that appears to be true he could’ve traded their prospects but he (likely) had AJ overspend instead. Both hurt the franchise tho, no doubt. I would think Preller would understand the manager not liking him wanting to control everything considering the owner did the same to him.
CrikesAlready
Yeah, Seidler was whackadoodle for his last few years. AJ is still at fault for being a great talent seeker when it comes to untapped potential, But a horrible train wreck when it comes to signing people who aren’t healthy or will be unhealthy in the near future. Getting Matt Kemp with his bad hip was a harbinger of things to come.
Longtimecoming
“or will be in the near future” – oh and how the he LL does one get better at predicting the future?
damascusj
Seidlers wasn’t owner when the Padres got Kemp, nice try
Deleted Userrrr
Either Preller was the worst thing to ever happen to the Padres or Seidler was. Pick one.
Brew88
False dichotomy ringworm, and your AJ envy is showing again. Aside from Tony Gwynn, they are both the best thing that’s ever happened to the Padres.
Deleted Userrrr
Maybe to the uninformed casual fans.
Brew88
An informed fan knows something about the woeful past and doesn’t think the present is the “worst thing”
FanDan
What’s so great about it? Mediocre is not much better than pitiful. Doesn’t amount to anything you can have a parade for. They did have winning seasons before Preller. Not a new experience. Then bad ownership came. Too bad they didn’t have a good GM when the ownership situation greatly improved.
I Believe We Can Win
Since 1999, year after the 1998 WS team. Padres have had 8 winning seasons in 24 years. Preller has gotten them 3 of those. There was hardly winning prior to Preller.
Fever Pitch Guy
Nando – Tom Werner owning the Padres was worse than either of those two.
Deleted Userrrr
@FanDan Signing a bunch of albatross contracts and then leaving your successor to clean up the mess isn’t improving.
JoeBrady
Preller has gotten them 3 of those.
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They’ve averaged being 8-9th in payroll over the past 5 years, averaging $248M over the past three. Saying that one of the biggest spending teams in BB has been > .500 3x in AJ’s 9 years is not exactly high praise.
SDHotDawg
Is Seidler the new fall guy for Preller’s mistakes? It’s documented that he intervened in the Manny contract extension, but Bogaerts or any others? I’ll check out any links that can confirm.
Deleted Userrrr
@SDHotDawg The narrative is that Seidler basically handed Preller a blank check two offseasons ago and instructed him to go out and get a big fish. This ended in the Bogaerts signing. Idk if it is true or not.
Deleted Userrrr
And they also say that Seidler specifically instructed Preller to acquire Soto, whatever the cost may be.
SDHotDawg
@Fernando — thanks. Yeah, I’m familiar with the general narrative, I’m looking for some reporting to confirm Seidler intervened on anything other than the Machado extension.
Tom the ray fan
Be prepared for the wrath from Padres fans, Preller can do no wrong in their eyes.
Deleted Userrrr
That’s not true. It’s possible to support the team but still be critical of the manager/front office/ownership.
Fever Pitch Guy
Nando – Those words of wisdom should be posted below every Red Sox article here.
damascusj
Wrong, many padre fans hate preller
SDHotDawg
@Tom—
Not true. Only the low baseball IQ casual Padres fans are in love with Preller. The rest of us have wanted him gone for a long time. The casual “know-it-alls” just happen to make more noise.
Curly Was The Smart Stooge
Don’t Bogaerts that joint my friend, you’ll need it in the end, which may be sooner than you think
’cause this contract really did stink
BlueSkies_LA
Right, how could they not know he was going to fracture his shoulder?
Fever Pitch Guy
Crikes – I don’t know what’s sillier, you calling a 30-year-old player “old” or you calling Xander “selfish”.
What was selfish? Him insisting on playing through a painful injury last year because the team needed him?
Or him agreeing to play a position he’s never played before in the majors, just one year after signing a contract to be the starting shortstop?
“I don’t use this word a lot, but my admiration for Xander Bogaerts went through the roof in this transition.” – Mike Shildt
stymeedone
XB insisted on playing SS the Year of his Free agency, because he knew he would be paid more as a SS. This was with Trevor Story having been acquired. He knew Story was better for the team, defensively. But he wanted the dollars. Then he made SDP play him at SS, even though he knew Kim was the better SS (and probably Tatis, Jr too). Yeah. Selfish applies.
Longtimecoming
“Then he made SDP play him at SS…”
Oh boy. How do you even type this stuff?
Fever Pitch Guy
stymee – You think a player on the verge of free agency should try to learn a new position during his contract year? Seriously???
And BTW – he finished runnerup for the GG that final year in Boston …. as a SHORTSTOP.
stymeedone
He was barely average that year, and it was the only year he was that good. GG awards always take the bat into consideration. There really are no qualifications for being a finalist.
stymeedone
If it makes the team better, and provides a better chance at winning, absolutely! Unless your only thinking about yourself being on the verge of free agency/selfish.
SDHotDawg
@stymeedone
If the GG awards “always take the bat into consideration, Grisham wouldn’t have won.
BTW, I’m no fan of the GG Awards. Rafael Palmeiro made it clear they are a joke.
User 3180623956
Well said, Fever. The guy is anything but selfish. Some fans are just clueless and type the first thing that pops into their head…
Fever Pitch Guy
grnmtn – Nothing fires me up more than when really great guys like Mookie and Xander get wrongly accused.
They were two of the nicest most popular players to ever wear a Sox uniform.
User 3180623956
Absolutely agreed!
stymeedone
I never said he wasn’t popular or nice. I just said he was never really a good SS defensively. When the metrics show that your career year defensively had you at average, that’s not good. Bellanger was good. Ozzie was good. Trammell was good. XB, as a SS, is a good hitter.
Misty Moobs
Sucks how he won’t return to Fenway this year
Fever Pitch Guy
Misty – I wouldn’t be surprised if he travels with the team to Fenway.
braveshomer
I was watching that game…seemed like such a slow moving act when it happened it was hard to tell what he hurt. Looked like landed on his right wrist more than anything.
Niekro floater
Cronenworth to 2nd ?
I Believe We Can Win
Probably Wade and Solano in a platoon to 2B full time with Arraez getting spot starts.
That or Eguy Rosario + Graham Pauley gets a long look at 2B. Which I’d prefer over Solano.and Wade
Brew88
Pauley is working on a few things, he’ll need more time. They dont need to bring up an IF given they recently acquired Arraez and Solano and now Manny is back at 3b daily.
CrikesAlready
Absolutely! Last year, when he was having a lot of difficulties at the plate, his splits between first and second base were incredibly in favor of his time at 2B.
Longtimecoming
And yet, in 24 with a return to form, you suggest shifting him back to 2b in the same breath as saying how shifting him the 1b caused his decline?
What?
Rsox
Maybe. Arraez can play 1B better than 2B and with Peralta to play LF Profar can DH
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
Sleeper move: profar goes to 2nd because it only took him 11 years to be the top prospect he truly was
websoulsurfer
Arraez to 2B.
RonDarlingShouldntBeInTheHallOfFame
I’d go Cronenworth to second, and Arraez and Solano at 1st..then rotate the DH’s. The Padres may have actually gotten better with this move, as it allows them to have Arraez and Solano’s bats in the lineup daily.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Maybe Padres followers can chime in?
Arraez is a weaker 2B defensively than Bogey or Crony. Why not move Crony to 2B and Arraez to 1B, where played in AL?
Longtimecoming
Crony is playing GG 1b and his bat has returned. I say leave him alone.
I’m of the belief that there is only so much ground to cover so it isn’t that important which spot has the stronger player positioned – you have the same 2 guys covering the same amount of space.
Before anyone says anything, Cro plays very far off the line so he is actually covering nearly equal ground on both sides of his positioning.
That take pressure off Arreaz as he can scoot toward the middle a step.
Just my take.
Longtimecoming
Yet, Cro volunteers to play 2b and Shildt says ok – I defer to the professionals!
fred-3
Chaim Bloom deserves an apology
GASoxFan
Consider first that the oft-injured, non-hitting, trevor story, bogey’s replacement that was hand picked replacement courtesy of chaim bloom, went down yet again earlier this year with – you guessed it – a left shoulder injury on a diving play…
I’ll say no, not by a long shot.
fred-3
Trevor Story was an iron man at SS for the Rockies. 145, 157, 145, 49 in the covid year, and 142 games played from 2017-2021 He’s also getting paid, what?, half of Bogaert’s contract
woodhead1986
All quite true. Bloom tried hard to be the smartest guy in the room and he often made bad choices as a result but the deal X got from the Padres is nearly a Hosmer level mistake.
fred-3
He wasn’t oft-injured before the Red Sox, so you’re looking at it with hindsight. Meanwhile, Xander was never worth the contract the Padres gave him.
websoulsurfer
Bogaerts played 155, 144, 150 games in last 3 seasons with Red Sox. That is MORE than Story did before Bloom signed him.
Bogaerts is getting paid $1 million more per season than Story and since signing with Padres has played 155 games in 2023 and 47 in 2024 and its likely he will be back before the end of the season.
Story played 137 games in 2022-2023 and is out for the rest of this season after playing just 8 games.
fred-3
Again, that’s all hindsight after Story signed his deal. Who saw him throwing out his elbow and then all the shoulder problems afterwards? You’re also forgetting Bogaerts signed a much longer deal. I mean, he’s not even a SS anymore one year into his deal. You can say this is also hindsight, but many people thought he would eventually move off SS.
GASoxFan
Fred, you ignore that bogaerts was on the record as willing to forego his opt-out from Boston if the 3/60m + 4th year 20m vesting option were replaced by a new roughly 120m pact over something like 5 or 6 years.
websoulsurfer
Story injured his shoulder the first time in Colorado.
fred-3
At the end of the day, they choose Devers over Bogaerts, which was the right move. I don’t think it’s Story vs Bogaerts because Story was brought in as an add-on to ALCS from the previous year. It just didn’t work out.
Fever Pitch Guy
fred – With all due respect, where the hell have you been the last couple years when this topic has been discussed over and over?
Iron Man? Story played more than 145 games just once in his career. There’s 162 games in the season, dude. Guess why he always played at least 17 games less.
He was on the DL in 2014, 2016 (tore a thumb ligament), 2017 (shoulder strain), 2019 (sprained thumb),2021 (elbow inflammation), and two injuries in 2022 (heel contusion and fractured wrist). . Calling him an “Iron Man” is an insult to Cal Ripken.
Getting paid? Xander wanted just $160M in early 2022, the Sox chose to give $140M to Story instead. This despite the fact Story’s numbers had been steadily declining AND he had a known elbow injury.
Bloom was an absolute moron.
Fever Pitch Guy
fred – Get a clue!!! Again, where were you the past few years??
blogs.fangraphs.com/as-if-the-rockies-needed-more-…
As if they needed more problems, star shortstop Trevor Story has been sidelined by inflammation in his right elbow. At a time when his production has already fallen short of expectations, the 28-year-old shortstop’s injury — which recalls a late-2018 scare — could have a significant impact upon his trade value.
According to manager Bud Black, Story began experiencing tightness and pain in his elbow and forearm following a play against the Mets in the second game of a doubleheader last Thursday. Fielding a grounder off the bat of Cameron Maybin in the third inning, he ranged to his left, spun, and threw a one-hopper to first base in time for the out.
fred-3
I did not realize he had elbow inflammation in 2021, but those other injuries you listed are one off freak injuries. Some of those occurred because he slid in to a base awkwardly or was HBP. Remember, this was before the NL had a DH so playing 87% of the season at SS is a durable player, especially in the thin air of Colorado.
Also, if you look into his elbow situation in 2021 further, the MRI came back clean. You don’t think the Red Sox did their homework and just signed a guy without taking a physical? Even if there were concerns about the elbow, they probably thought those problems would occur towards the end of the deal, not in the beginning.
User 3180623956
Story = Iron Man is freaking hilarious
all in the suit that you wear
Story didn’t start missing a lot of games until after he came to Boston.
Games played:
Colorado:
2017: 145
2018: 157
2019: 145
2020: 59 of 60
2021: 142
Boston:
2022: 94
2023: 43
2024: 8
Fever Pitch Guy
fred – One of Story’s many injuries was a fractured wrist from swinging at a pitch that was so far inside it hit him. Are you saying a player has no responsibility for injuries such as that?
The Sox thought the injury would heal on it’s own, it was a bad gamble they took. They were well aware of the injury though, that’s why they refused to let him play even one inning at shortstop when Xander didn’t in 2022. There was an infamous game in Toronto they lost 1-0 on an error by Arroyo at shortstop, while Story was playing 2B instead. Arroyo had far less experience at SS than 2B, but they wouldn’t move Story there for even that one game.
Fever Pitch Guy
grnmtn – Hopefully Fred used that term only because he’s a Black Sabbath fan. LOL!!
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
@Fever Pitch Guy (because he has me blocked I guess)
Fever Pitch Guy says I’m worse to Bloom than he is, then goes on to sat Bloom is a moron.
How’s that Bogaerts contract going that you pushed and wanted the Sox to sign?
Cap & Crunch
Its in my belief still the Bos higher ups wanted a complete re-boot but the savage fans painted them into a corner of going half-way (at min) hence the Story signing
Should have just bitten the bullet like the Cubs did…Man did those Cubs get hell in here for 3+ years ish for letting Bryant Rizzo Baez Contrearas walk. Those in the know ( few of us) were behind the Cubs tho in those days and man do they have a bright future now
A sign of an elite front office is one that can completely shut out the fans wants and desires, especially in the strange no mans land years. They should have completely blown up 3 years ago like I think they wanted too
Fever Pitch Guy
Cap – The Sox DID have a complete re-boot.
Every player from the defending champion 2019 team, except Sale and Devers, was gone within 3 years.
And if you think John Henry gives a damn about the fans, you don’t know John Henry.
Cap & Crunch
Fever- I think they didn’t want to sign Story and wanted to trade Denvers . A re-boot in the ledger so to speak (like the Cubs did)
They were token signings Imo to keep the natives somewhat at peace and not ripping down the green monster. I was here and can say the Boston fans had zero stomach for a real Cubs reboot,, they were in the wrong then and its costing them today
I fault the fans more than the front office from this standpoint. Henry maybe a D-bag but that has zero to do with a rebuild or lack of understanding from the fans
Fever Pitch Guy
Cap – Prior to the 2022 season defense was a big problem for the Sox and they openly stated they were going to make changes to improve it. With the weak-gloved Devers at 3B and Xander grading out below average at shortstop, they sought to improve the defense at shortstop while paying less than what Xander wanted. Story was a defensive wizard at shortstop, that’s why they signed him. They also expected him to return to an elite offensive level, which of course was a silly expectation.
I do think potential fan backlash was a factor in the Sox overpaying Devers, but all in all Bloom had a budget to stick to (first LT threshold) and was therefore allowed to spend up to it. Of course he lost track of the payroll and ended up going just a little bit over, but still there was never any order to lower the payroll below $200M or anything like that.
They achieved their goal in 3 years, they went from top payroll in MLB to 13th. Keep in mind when they sign sponsors to longterm contracts, there’s stipulations regarding team performance. Mass Mutual agreed to their deal because the Sox were a very popular team at the time, if John Henry brought the CBT payroll down to $150M or less and the Sox lost 95+ games I guarantee Mass Mutual would be knock-knock-knocking on Henry’s door complaining about breach of contract.
all in the suit that you wear
Cap & Crunch: “Its in my belief still the Bos higher ups wanted a complete re-boot but the savage fans painted them into a corner of going half-way (at min) hence the Story signing”
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I lean toward believing that. A lot of people were calling the Red Sox cheap and Story was a “big signing”. I doubt a guy from the Rays (Bloom) would sign the 29 year old Story to that 6 year deal unless he was asked by ownership to make a big signing.
truthlemonade
I wonder if Jake Cronenworth can move back to 2b any time soon. I think the bulked up over the offseason to hit like a first baseman.
SD also has Donovan Solano and Luis Arraez who can play 2b, or 1b while Cronenworth plays 1b.
ACK
Cronenworth is playing gold glove 1B. Don’t fix what isn’t broken. Arraez is a 2B and moves to fulltime 2B for Padres.
Deleted Userrrr
Cronenworth is 10x the defender at 1B that Arraez is.
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
Arraez sucks even more at 2nd so crony should be there
websoulsurfer
Arraez at 2B
2021 – 2 DRS
2022 – 3 DRS
2023 – 4 DRS
He is above average on defense at 2B and improving.
Deleted Userrrr
While I meant to say “10x the defender at 2B,” both are technically true.
websoulsurfer
Arraez moves to 2B. Padres call up Rosario to take Bogaerts place on roster. Machado DH half of the time.
websoulsurfer
They update to say Peralta being called up. What a waste of a roster spot. Padres need a bat and defense in the infield.
Brew88
Newly acquired Arraez and Solano are defense and bats for the IF?
RoastGobot
Bummer dudes
ACK
Luis Arraez moves to 2B, That leaves open the DH spot to pick up a HR bat. AJ is not sitting on his hands when he can fill a need thru trade for unproven prospects.
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
Eloy Jimenez trade to San Diego incoming?
websoulsurfer
No.
Salzilla
Man that sucks. Speedy recovery.
cookmeister 2
Rengifo for Mazur
Gwynning
Lol
FanDan
This has absolutely no impact on the fortunes of the Padres season. Actually, might improve things. Now they just need Machado to on the IL and things might really get better.
CrikesAlready
That Ty France trade still hurts!
Deleted Userrrr
The guy with a sub-100 OPS+ and below replacement level this year?
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
Ty France gave a few good seasons, and Andres Munoz is now one of the best closers
All for the bad Nola and some throwaways
Deleted Userrrr
Preller would certainly take a mulligan on that trade but it’s not even top 5 among bad Preller trades.
JoeBrady
France’s OPS with Seattle is 116, not sub-100.
SD got beat, and maybe got beat bad with that trade.
Deleted Userrrr
@JoeBrady His OPS+ this year is sub-100.
SD got beat no question but Preller has made worse trades. Shoot, it wasn’t even the worst trade Preller made that day (Clevinger).
Longtimecoming
Why not look at his decline EVERY YEAR since the trade to the point that SM was sitting him earlier this year and pushed him down the lineup before you spout this stuff?
HiredGun23
Next man up. They have guys that should be able to step up in Xander’s absence. Still alot of baseball to play…
solaris602
Padres may get a bump from whomever replaces Bogaerts over the next few months. Aside from the first month or so of last season, Bogaerts has had a rough go of it since. And that contract isn’t going anywhere any time soon.
websoulsurfer
2nd half of 2023 for Bogaerts – .321/.364/.493/.857 with a 131 OPS+
The last month of 2023 he carried the team with a .418/.452/.670/1.122 slashline and 202 OPS+
UWPSUPERFAN77
Feel sorry for the fans. Not the front office, They make the Calls. Your GM is the most active trader in Baseball. Some work, some do not. At least he tries to compete.
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
Great signing, the padres get to keep him for 9 more years let’s go
beyou02215
That contract is atrocious. I said it at the time it was signed, and I’ll say it again. Ditto on the Machado contract.
Blackpink in the area
Is this really the time to be saying it?
Probably not champ……
Brew88
The contract was atrocious because he fractured his shoulder on a dive play that saved a run and the game?
SDHotDawg
Do you really think that’s what he meant?
😉
Brew88
No. But my comment was probably more in context than his/hers
websoulsurfer
Time to call up Rosario.
Wade hitting .246/.333/.275/.609 with an 81 OPS+ with slightly below average defensive metrics
Rosario hit .250/.294/.542/.836 with a 139 OPS+ with average to slightly above average defensive metrics. Rosario has been hitting .298/.400/.638/1.038 with 9 XBH. He is a combination of decent average with good power and good defense. He strikes out a lot but doesn’t ground into double plays.
mlbnyyfan
That’s too bad. Do Padres have any interest in Gleyber Torres? I’ll even throw in Stanton for a bucket of balls.
mlbnyyfan
Torres for Michael King.
websoulsurfer
No. Not even if the Yankees pay all of their contracts.
straightuphonestguy
I prefer an extra lefty with more defensive utility. Rosario can have a solid career as a bench bat/injury replacement, but 33% K-BB is untenable for the moment. Solano offers more than Rosario right now anyway.
YanksTomator
Worst contract in baseball. Guess that’s what he gets for being a snake and leaving the BoSox
mlbnyyfan
@Yanks. Worst contract belongs to Stanton.
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Wander Franco
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
Except that was really the Marlins’ doing. Yankees just took the bait
Informed Sportsball Discussion
@Yanks If another employer offered you more money to do your job, you would take it, no?
websoulsurfer
Bogaerts put up 4.4 WAR in 2023 for $25 million. That is a bargain.
This injury diving for a ball is a non-factor in the worth of his contract.
Worst contracts in baseball are Strasburg, Stanton, deGrom, Corbin, Rendon, and the last Pujols deal in no particular order. Pick your favorite rotten egg.
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Pujols deal is over. Unless he has some kind of Bonilla-esque arrangement.
Longtimecoming
Both of the Chris Davis contracts? Chris Bryant? mad Bum? Cueto in SF? So, so many ones out there to varying degrees but a guy that put up 4.4 WAR for 25 mil in 2023 is way too early to judge the total contract – starting 24 with surplus value. For sure they last couple of years are likely negative value but remains to be seen for the next 3-4 years. A 10% annual decline from 23 probably averages out at least “ok”. Injuries happen and can’t blame a team or player for those – unless it’s a motorcycle accident maybe.
foppert2
Im not getting the math. I think you are missing a couple of years. 9.5 to go, minus the next 3-4 good ones, equals 5-6 at possible negative value ?
Over 9 years to go on any 31yo is scary. Let alone one with a chronic wrist and now a busted shoulder. This is coming from watching Crawford during his age 36-37 seasons. The brain was saying go but the knee was saying no.
User 3180623956
@yanks – worst comment on here
RonDarlingShouldntBeInTheHallOfFame
Anthony Rendon has joined the chat.
Fever Pitch Guy
Ron – Ben Cherington can lay claim to a couple that are in the mix:.
Rusney Castillo – 99 Games, 337 PA’s, $72.5M
Pablo Sandoval – 161 Games, 620 PA’s, $95M
Captainmike1
Another overpaid player who needs to issue a refund for services not rendered
SODOMOJO
Question: in this scenario, wouldn’t it be smart to put Arraez at first and move Croney back to second?
Longtimecoming
Look at offensive stats for each. (1) why mess with that; and (2) Cro plays waaay off the bag because of his GG quality D so, it really doesn’t matter which base he plays, he is making up for Arraez’s shortcomings on D.
just_thinkin
Two words
Ramon Urias
TenYearsGone
It’s a tough day for this diehard Red Sox and X fan
baseballfreak25
These type of injuries normally don’t bode well for infielders, especially on the left side. I think when he returns he will be playing second in order to extend his career because he’s breaking down physically right before our eyes. He needs to swallow his pride and do what’s best for the team. Extract a couple more good to fair seasons before he really hits the downward slope.
fba0017
Albatross of a contract. Good player but time isn’t on his side. Will be hideous amount of money Padres will be dealing with for a long time.
CrikesAlready
Hey, why is Jake Cronenworth leading the team in Home runs at 8 (5/23) when Fernando Ringworm Jr. is playing every day?
Could they have signed a contract with a man who was taking steroids? Sure looks like they did.
Brew’88
Cronenworth and Tatis are both leading the team with 8, and on pace for 27 HRs. Tatis’ power is fine, with several 450 ft bombs already. But he’s in a funk lately chasing bad pitches.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
All those Red Sox fans who cried when we didn’t sign him… just by his age alone, he is on decline
straightuphonestguy
I wasn’t a fan of the X signing, but the Padres are well-positioned to absorb this loss. A lot of people lambasted the Cronenworth extension, but being able to slide your 1B over to cover 2B is a pittance for $11M.
Hopefully X comes back strong and healthy for the stretch. The batted-ball fortune was just starting to turn, too. Bummer.
GarryHarris
It’s time for a Javier Baez acquisition.