The Dodgers are halting Clayton Kershaw’s rehab process. Manager Dave Roberts told reporters that L.A. is shutting down the future Hall of Famer after he reported lingering soreness in his surgically repaired shoulder (link via Bill Plunkett of the Orange County Register).
Roberts downplayed any significant alarm, noting that a recent MRI revealed “no new incidents.” Rather, it seems the team is chalking it up as residual soreness. That’s not entirely unexpected as Kershaw builds into game shape after undergoing the procedure to repair the gleno-humeral ligaments and capsule in his throwing shoulder last November.
It seems Kershaw will be shut down entirely for at least a week. Roberts left open a fairly broad timetable, indicating the 10-time All-Star will hold off until the soreness completely subsides. That’s an understandable approach that might not delay Kershaw for too much longer. It introduces some amount of uncertainty to his timeline, though.
The 36-year-old had looked to be on track for a return around the All-Star Break. Kershaw started a rehab stint for Low-A Rancho Cucamonga last Wednesday. He tossed 36 pitches, 26 of them strikes, over three innings of one-run ball in his first game action of the season. Kershaw’s second start had been scheduled for tomorrow but things are on hold after he felt the discomfort in the days coming out of his first appearance.
Los Angeles recently placed Yoshinobu Yamamoto and Walker Buehler on the 15-day injured list. That pushed Landon Knack into the starting five behind Tyler Glasnow, Bobby Miller, Gavin Stone and James Paxton. Knack was recalled to rejoin the MLB staff last Friday. He tossed five scoreless frames against the Angels. Roberts said this evening that the rookie righty will remain in the starting five for the moment and is slated to take the ball for this weekend’s series in San Francisco (relayed on X by David Vassegh of AM 570 LA Sports).
Temporarily is the first step toward permanently.
Hope he’s back.
I love Kershaw but can I see him helping our team against ravenous dogs come October, I don’t see it.
He was ahead of schedule, and now maybe he isn’t. Pretty much all there is to see here.
been ramping up, not surprising there’s some soreness. He’s likely fine, just moving through the thresholds to get ready again.
As a giants fan, I hope he’s healthy, and he comes back and pitches again. But I think it’s time. He’s HoF’er already. Pitch one more time against the giants since he’s dominated them, then say goodbye
Ideally (for him and LAD and LAD fans), one more ring and then hang it up.
What if the dodgers signed madbum would he be congratulated or booed
Bumgarner hasn’t pitched in 14 months. He’s toast.
You mean a real ring and not the goofy 60 game exhibition season that nobody respects?
By “nobody,” you mean all the crybaby losers of 2020, right?
I know a lot of people who don’t respect the Giants’ 2012 title since they cheated to make the playoffs. Should we agree to disqualify that one, or only the ones you don’t like?
Also, should we disqualify all the wild card teams who went on to win a WS? After all, they failed to win their division in the super-serious 162-game season that you seem to value most of all.
Who said Giants cheated in 2012?
Might be referencing Melky’s PEDs.
Yes, exactly. According to the commissioner’s unprecedented ruling, Melky Cabrera’s contributions for 2012 should be discarded: that’s why Buster Posey was officially named the batting champion despite Cabrera having a higher batting avg and enough qualified ABs. Yet, paradoxically, those disqualified contributions were allowed to help qualify the Giants for the playoffs that season. Very strange stuff.
NoShoW 2: I for one respect it. That makes your statement that “nobody respects” it wrong.
And what’s it to you anyway? How were you harmed by the COVID-shortened season and the Dodgers winning?
Have some cheese with your whine, lol.
No, just the ones that aren’t real seasons like 1981 and 2020. Both choking dodgers victories
No, just times that the league only played the equivalent amount of games that would put the season in June. Like 1981 and 2020, both choking dodgers victories
Bigger asterisk than the 17 Astros and 18 Red Sox
That was one person (Melky Cabrera), and not the whole team. Giants had an 8 game lead in the NL West in the final standings 94-68 over the 2nd team (Dodgers) in the division that year.
Even without Melky that year, the Giants still would have clinched the division. Melky Cabrera didn’t play in the playoffs in 2012, and the Giants still swept the Tigers in the World Series.
That’s very questionable. That one guy was on track to win the MVP, and he kept the Giants in contention through August. I admit that his suspension actually rallied the team, resulting in that final big lead in the division; but they probably are too far out of it in August to make a run at it if he had played like a mortal the first 5 months of the season.
Regardless, my point was mainly that it’s a slippery slope to create arbitrary reasons for discounting title winners. The only team whose “championship” is 100% null and void is the 2017 Astros.
No it isn’t. That’s only your opinion.
Skipdry020: But who cares after all these years? How were you harmed by it?
And why did you post the same comment twice?
By a lot of people, you mean the crybaby losers of 2012, right?
Buster Posey would have won the MVP, regardless if Melky Cabrera played the rest of the season without somehow getting caught.
The Dodgers were 86-76 that year, so the Giants (94-68) still would have been competing for the NL West Division title the whole season, even without Melky Cabrera.
The Giants still had Buster Posey, Brandon Belt, Pablo Sandoval, Angel Pagan, and Marco Scutaro who all had 120+ OPS or better for the Giants. Their pitching was also good enough in 2012 to keep them in the playoff hunt for the whole season.
I agree about the Astros.
You took my post out of context. Not all of those players I mentioned played the full 2012 season with the San Francisco Giants. Marco Scutaro played most of the 2012 with the Rockies.
Scutaro’s combined 2012 OPS+ was 100. Scutaro’s OPS+ was much better with the Giants (144) compared to his 74 +OPS for the Rockies.
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Marco Scutaro played most of the 2012 season with the Rockies.
Fixed the typo before the grammar police arrives.
exile: The grammar police ARRIVE or they have ARRIVED.
You didn’t catch that one, LOL.
You sure do like to go off topic and argue over trivial things don’t you? I am not going to argue with you anymore. Muted. .
Actually Melky fell short of the qualifying plate appearances. You need 3.1 plate appearances per games played. That’s 502.2. He finished 2012 with 501 plate appearances so didn’t qualify for batting title. I’m sure they purposely prevented it though, not that I can say for certain since I can’t remember what I had for breakfast let alone the end of the 2012 season
Melky still qualified due to the clause that states that any player who falls short in plate appearance but who would still win the batting title if we added a bunch of hitless ABs up to the point of the requirement shall be deemed the batting champion. I just found this old post that covers the situation very nicely for any who are interested:
reddit.com/r/baseball/comments/14h51s1/a_story_nev….
Probly the best SP of our generation
Just couldnt stay healthy these last few yrs
1st ballot HOFer
Madbum.
Madbum is definitely one of the greatest postseason pitchers of all-time, but you can’t downplay Kershaw’s regular season dominance. The man has a CAREER 2.48 ERA, you don’t get that only beating up on the Pirates and Rockies in the regular season. In the Regular Season, it’s hard to beat Kershaw. In the postseason, it’s hard to beat MadBum.
please. 37.3 War 134 W-124 L versus 79.7 War 210 W- 92 L
Bumgarner was mid AF in the regular season and was a huge dweeb constantly crying on the mound (something he shares with Kershaw, also a huge crybaby dweeb on the mound)
It’s between Kershaw, Verlander and Scherzer. Bumgarner was an October legend.
I’d go with Kershaw but Verlander and Scherzer are also in the discussion.
Madbum is a classic first ballot Hall of Very Good player
A few more prime years and a cy young would have made the difference but he sure checked a lot of boxes along the way
@Cards It definitely comes down to those 3. I want to have Verlander, Kershaw, the Scherzer in that order. I know tho that I have a biased opinion here and I don’t know if I can put that biased aside even while trying.
I still can’t, in my own mind, put Max in that group. He’s a darn good pitcher, but Kershaw was almost Koufax Lite for a number of years and Verlander has 260 wins in an era of pampered six-inning pitchers.
Yeah I have Scherzer a clear 3rd behind Verlander and Kershaw. Both of them were dominant for a long time. With Verlander I watched his dominance regularly for years and it was amazing.
Kershaw was far more consistent throughout his career as far as being dominant. I just feel Verlander the years he was at his best was a level Kershaw even could not get to. So I guess ultimately it comes down to preference of consistency or peak. For me I ve gotta take peak as career #s of both are amazing for this era. Again tho I have a biased I’m not sure if I’m putting aside.
Scherzer is definitely 3rd among the pitchers but do not downplay what he has done
He has the cy youngs a big inning eater the strikeouts but also the 2019 World Series
IMO the value of that WS is more than Clayton’s 2020 ring because of the circumstances
Everyone would rather face the 2020 rays compared to the 2019 astros
Why would everyone prefer to play the 2020 Rays over the 2019 Astros? If you think the Astros were a juggernaut, we must also acknowledge that Kershaw dominated them in the 2017 WS except for the one time they knew in advance every single pitch he threw. If we are being honest, the only reason Kershaw doesn’t already have two WS to his name is that he was cheated. I cannot hold that against him.
Verlander’s peak ERA was 2.40. Kershaw has had an ERA lower than that EIGHT times. So I’m not sure why you think Verlander’s peak was higher than Kershaw’s.
The postseason, which is often cited as Kershaw’s kryptonite, doesn’t necessarily do Verlander any favors, either. In his five WS, Verlander has had ERAs of 5.73, 11.25, 3.75, 5.73, and 5.40. In Kershaw’s three WS, he has had ERAs of 4.02 (when he was cheated), 7.36, and 2.31.
The 17 astros cheated but they were still a juggernaut and would’ve still been one had they not cheated
Altuve was in his prime, Correa and springer were talented and dangerous, and had a 3 man playoff rotation of verlander Morton and keuchel
The cheating did help their results (especially for the non stars) yet they still were a great team on paper
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He’s had one heck of a regular season career. Time to give it up and enjoy his life and his wealth.
Thanks, doc. Do you make house calls?
I do. Only for euthanasia.
Killer.
Would BO Bichette and likly bassit but 1 of the jays starters get gonsilin or may plus 2 of your top4 prospects and 2 of your top 12
I wish these guys would just stick to the normal timeline and stop trying to rush themselves back. They’re not getting any younger here.
Ugh
21st best starting pitcher in MLB history. Not bad but could be better. Walter Johnson, Cy Young & Grover Alexander are all significantly better than him. Even Robin Roberts is better than him.
Where Kershaw falls in all time rankings depends on the stat you are using. Using ERA+ for pitchers with more than 2000 innings pitched, Kershaw is number one. Martinez is a close second and may regain the lead as Kershaw’s career winds down.
It comes down to how much you value longevity. I’m assuming you are using WAR in your rankings.
@CardsFan57
Yeah, I just want to BaseballReference under JAWS.
It depends on whether or not it is muscle soreness. Muscle soreness is what I would consider”good” pain. It means I had a really good workout, but need to take a short break.
FWIW, I am keeping him on the IL on my fantasy team.
Call it a career Kershaw. HOF will be calling.
Uh oh. I sure hope he’s back in time to keep the Kershaw-Roberts post-season losing streak alive!
Kershaw always hurt like Stanton. Stealing money from their teams.
Contracts are guaranteed so players who GET INJURED DOING THEIR JOBS are fairly and rightfully compensated.
Players are not required to play in any specific number of games to earn their salaries.
No money is being stolen from anyone.