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Angels To Promote Caden Dana, Samuel Aldegheri

By Darragh McDonald | August 29, 2024 at 11:55pm CDT

The Angels announced that pitching prospect Caden Dana is scheduled to start Sunday’s game against the Mariners. The club will need to make corresponding moves to get him onto both the active and 40-man rosters. Jeff Fletcher of the Orange County Register reported the news on on X prior to the official announcement. The club will also promote left-hander Samuel Aldegheri, per Jeff Passan of ESPN on X, with Aldegheri expected to pitch Friday. Like Dana, Aldegheri is not on the 40-man roster and the club will have to make corresponding moves for him.

Dana, now 20, went to Don Bosco Preparatory High School in Ramsey, New Jersey. Baseball America ranked him as the #76 player available in the 2022 draft. Even though he had not yet turned 19 years old at the time, BA noted that his fastball was already hitting the mid-90s. They suggested he could be off the board in the first two rounds but he lingered unsigned far later than that due to signability concerns related to his commitment to Kentucky.

The Angels eventually took him in the 11th round, 328th overall. They gave him a signing bonus of $1,497,500, which was a record for a player taken after the 10th round, per MLB.com. They were able to do so by giving below-slot deals to other players they drafted, saving some of their allotted bonus pool.

Dana made a brief professional debut in the months following that draft selection but got a more proper debut in 2023. He made 14 starts last year between Single-A and High-A, tossing 68 1/3 innings while allowing 3.56 earned runs per nine. His 10.7% walk rate was a bit on the high side but he also struck out 31.7% of batters faced. Here in 2024, he has 23 Double-A starts, throwing 135 2/3 innings with a 2.52 ERA, 27.4% strikeout rate and 7.3% walk rate.

Those strong results have vaulted him onto top prospect lists. BA currently has him in the #92 spot overall while MLB Pipeline has him 74th. FanGraphs lists him just outside the top 100. All outlets lists his slider as his best secondary pitch, followed by his curveball and then his changeup. Now the Halos will launch him up to the big leagues, skipping over the Triple-A level entirely.

The Angels have arguably been the most aggressive club in terms of promoting prospects in recent years and this is yet another data point in favor of that assessment. The first-round and third-round picks in 2022 were shortstop Zach Neto and right-hander Ben Joyce, both of whom were promoted to the big leagues by May of 2023. Last year’s top pick was first baseman Nolan Schanuel, who was in the bigs just over a month later. Reid Detmers and Chase Silseth were also called up the year after their draft selection. The gap from draft to debut is slightly wider with Dana, but he was selected out of high school, whereas all those other were taken out of college.

It’s also an aggressive promotion with Aldegheri, a 22-year-old, though his path to the majors far been far less traditional. He was born and raised in Verona, Italy and Matt Gelb of The Athletic profiled his unusual path to the majors back in the spring.

The Phillies signed him as part of their 2019 international class, giving him a bonus of $210K. Since then, he has continued to put up strong numbers and put himself on the prospect map, and the Angels liked him enough to acquire him in the deadline trade that sent Carlos Estévez the other way.

Between the two clubs, Aldegheri has made 19 starts this year between High-A and Double-A. He has thrown 95 1/3 innings with a 3.59 ERA, 33.5% strikeout rate and 10.3% walk rate. He’s not as highly regarded as Dana but has raised his stock. BA currently lists him #6 in the Angels’ system, noting that his fastball sits in the low 90s but has cutting and riding action. He complements it with a slider, curveball and changeup. FanGraphs provided a similar profile in putting him at #5 in the system, while MLB Pipeline has him in the #8 slot.

The Angels are out of contention this year and will use the final few weeks of the season to get a look at a couple of pitchers they hope will be a part of their future pitching staffs, which could perhaps impact their offseason. Next year’s rotation projects to include Tyler Anderson and Griffin Canning, though both are slated for free agency after 2025. Youngsters like Detmers, Silseth, Jack Kochanowicz, José Soriano and others should be in the mix. Patrick Sandoval underwent UCL surgery this summer but could be a factor by late 2025.

Dana and Aldegheri will be able to get their feet wet at the major league level but neither will exhaust rookie status this year. There are less than 45 days remaining in the schedule and the club will surely not allow them to pitch 50 innings. By keeping them in the rookie bucket going into 2025, the club will be able to have prospect promotion incentives on the table.

To combat service time manipulation, the collective bargaining agreement provides incentives for clubs to promote their top prospects. If a player has less than 60 days of service time and is on two of three top 100 lists at BA, ESPN or MLB Pipeline, the are PPI-eligible if they are promoted early enough in a season to get a full service year. If the player goes on to win Rookie of the Year, or finish in the top three in MVP or Cy Young voting during their pre-arbitration years, the club gets an extra draft pick just after the first round.

That will be more of a factor with Dana, who is already on two of those three lists, though it’s at least theoretically possible for Aldegheri to sneak on, especially if he pitches well in the next few weeks. There’s also the theoretical possibility that he spends all of 2025 on optional assignment and is still a rookie going into 2026.

That will be a secondary concern. The main goal for the Angels is getting their pitchers acclimated to the big leagues and seeing how their stuff plays against major league hitters. The club’s lack of starting pitching has been an ongoing concern, partially due to a lack of development but also due to a lack of spending. Other than Anderson, the club hasn’t signed a free agent starting pitcher to a multi-year deal since Joe Blanton’s two-year pact in 2012. If Dana or Aldegheri, or both, can turn into viable big league starters, it could be a big boost to the club in the years to come.

As mentioned, it also continues a pattern of aggressive promotions. That made a lot of sense when the club had both Mike Trout and Shohei Ohtani on the roster, as it appeared they were trying to explore all avenues to put a winning team around that duo when they had the chance. Ohtani is now gone but perhaps the club is still trying to make the most of the Trout era. He has missed significant time in recent years due to injuries and is now 33 years old, but he is under contract through 2030. Perhaps this is a sign the club still wants to take a shot at contending before Trout gets even older, though that may also depend on how the young players perform, how the offseason plays out, and other factors.

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  1. angelsbroncosfan

    9 months ago

    Dana is only 20

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  2. Suncloud

    9 months ago

    Time to release Trout and hope another team is dumb enough to take on the rest of his albatross contract. There is no other option at this point in terms of what to do about him.

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    • prov356

      9 months ago

      That is one of the worst takes I’ve ever heard. Do you even watch baseball?

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      • 14thor

        9 months ago

        prov What games are you watching? Trout has played barely over 40 games total in the second halves of the last several seasons. Solo home runs won’t get it done.

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        • prov356

          9 months ago

          Sure thor, Trout has been injured a lot more in recent years.
          But how does that equate to releasing him? One has nothing to do with the other.

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        • prov356

          9 months ago

          Shoot! DodgersBro muted me. I love the guys who announce they’re muting like it’s supposed to have a greater impact by letting me know. Or maybe it’s just the one guy and he keeps changing his name.

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        • 14thor

          9 months ago

          Where and when did I call or co-sign for his release? I understand how waivers work and nobody will want his contract or trade the farm for him. I took exception to your condescending and dramatic over the top take. I’m in Anaheim and I’ve watched his entire career. My take is more informed than your take. Trout is a fish out of water the second half of every season, when a team with playoff hopes needs their MVP the most. If they refuse to trade him and now can’t trade them then at least get the best training staff money can buy to keep him healthy. When you do none of the above and piss off the fan base you’ll get those kind of comments.

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        • Guard the Vogt

          9 months ago

          He muted me for that reason, I asked him why he needs to announce his mutes and that earned me a mute lol. I just like all his comments now since he had to announce the mute… Lol it still shows in his notifications… Defeats his mute…. I have too much time on my hands… Oh well

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        • prov356

          9 months ago

          Vogt – I think he’s the same guy that muted me before under his different name for calling him out on announcing his mutes. Hysterical.

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        • Suncloud

          9 months ago

          You’re blocked, Vogt so your comment isn’t even appearing and so theres no reason to say that anything “defeats his mute”

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        • Guard the Vogt

          9 months ago

          Marlins Fan, If I can reply, you didn’t mute my guy… You’re funny

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        • Suncloud

          9 months ago

          Your post isn’t appearing- cant emphasize that enough. And I did mute

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        • Guard the Vogt

          9 months ago

          Sure it isn’t big guy. My kids lie better

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        • prov356

          9 months ago

          Vogt – So if your comment isn’t appearing, how does he MF know to respond to you?

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        • Guard the Vogt

          9 months ago

          MFs just know

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      • DodgersBro

        9 months ago

        prov

        “Do you even watch baseball?”

        Unnecessarily argumentative

        Muted

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        • Bart

          9 months ago

          Ill alert the media.

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        • Curly Was The Smart Stooge

          9 months ago

          I’ll alert myself,
          Oh wait, I really don’t care
          Angels are doomed
          Give Washington back to the Braves
          We miss him

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        • User 3222006999

          9 months ago

          Curly, The saddest part of this article is the author said that the Angels are ” Out of Contention”. I don’t think most of the Angels fans who’s comments I read actually knew this. It’s tragic.

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        • Guard the Vogt

          9 months ago

          Be careful Bart, that could get you muted. “Unnecessarily snarkyyy”

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    • disadvantage

      9 months ago

      Orrr…. he’d go on unconditional waivers, pass through the other 29 teams, become a free agent, and a team like the Dodgers will pick him up for league minimum, with the Angels on the hook for the rest of his salary. The savings!

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    • layventsky

      9 months ago

      That’s not how releases work. If they were truly stupid enough to release him, they’d be stuck paying the rest of the contract minus the MLB minimum (assuming he signs elsewhere).

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      • Pads Fans

        9 months ago

        They can waive him now and if no one claims him he stays with the Angels. I believe he would have to pass though waivers before they could grant him an unconditional release.

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    • Fred2023

      9 months ago

      That’s not how baseball contracts work. The Angels would still be stuck for most of his contract while the receiving team would pay the major league minimum for his services.

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  3. Halo11Fan

    9 months ago

    Dana has half the ERA of Aldegerhi, so why Aldegerhi?

    I’m looking forward to watching Dana, the other, not so much.

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    • DodgersBro

      9 months ago

      Halo

      “Dana has half the ERA of Aldegerhi, so why Aldegerhi?”

      Because teams do not look at ERA

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      • Halo11Fan

        9 months ago

        Do they look at command? Aldegerhi doesn’t have any. Sixteen hits in 17 innings at AA is not exciting. Nor is he a top prospect.

        There is nothing exciting about him.

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        • AngelsFan1972

          9 months ago

          @Halo,

          Why not see what he can do? You are up in arms for nothing in my opinion. If he flounders, he spends more time in the minors, but if there ever was a time to see what he’s got….it is now. He hasn’t thrown a ton of innings so you aren’t taxing his arm.

          Right now the Angels are in a race to the bottom anyhow, and I am fine with that. Get your best position for the lottery and hopefully land the best pick next year.

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        • i like al conin

          9 months ago

          Couldn’t agree more – keep on losing!

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        • DodgersBro

          9 months ago

          Halo

          “Do they look at command?”

          Yes

          But they don’t do it by looking at hits allowed in 17 innings

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        • el_chapo_

          9 months ago

          This is a filihok burner

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        • Guard the Vogt

          9 months ago

          el_chapo_… Dodgersbro is filihok burner?

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        • Johnny Bravo

          9 months ago

          Wait a minute first watch Aldegerhi in the Seattle game and watch him on the mound before making a judgment

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      • Olericat

        9 months ago

        Aldegheri is eligible for the rule 5 draft; they want to see if he’s worth a 40 man roster spot.

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        • Halo11Fan

          9 months ago

          That would make sense if the Angels had 40 men worth protecting. This is the team that took four months to put Trout on the 60 day IL.

          Aldegheri is such a lightweight prospect that fangraphs didn’t even do a writeup on him last year.

          Just look at the Angels 40 man roster. As I wrote, this team is in worse shape than any team in Angel history.

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        • AngelsFan1972

          9 months ago

          I honestly do not understand your dislike for Aldegheri or why you do not want the team to promote him to see what he has.

          The season is lost. Aldegheri is a prospect who might possibly be one the roster next year or the year after that.

          Your incessant bashing of Aldegheri is over the top. Baseball is a game played on the field by men who have natural talent. Put down your spreadsheets and actually enjoy the game.

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        • Halo11Fan

          9 months ago

          It’s not dislike? Unless they are PED users, I don’t dislike players.

          The average fan here dislikes players, Rendon for instance, so maybe they put that transference on me.

          Other than Neto, there is no player on this team that is fun to watch. And even he is not that much fun to watch. Joyce is fun to watch.

          There are no outstanding players on this team. It’s a bad time to be an Angel fan. This organization is being run by people without a clue, and even though their incompetence makes my life worse, I don’t dislike them, I just acknowledge they are incompetent.

          Dana maybe good, Aldegheri has almost no chance. It doesn’t mean I dislike him.

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        • AngelsFan1972

          9 months ago

          @Halo

          I completely understand why many people are frustrated with the organization, but it is not Aldegheri’s fault he was traded to the team.

          You have been “strongly against” Aldegheri since they acquired him, without ever seeing him make one pitch in an Angels uniform. I have a hard time wrapping my head around why that is.

          You are saying he has almost no chance, yet you adamantly support a player like Adell, who for the most part is a bust. While Adell is athletically gifted, that has not translated on the field.

          Sometimes you just need to put them out on the field and see what you got.

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        • Halo11Fan

          9 months ago

          Of course it’s not his fault.

          In relative terms, he’s just not very talented.

          I could run a sub-five minute mile. That was damn good, probably better than anyone on this board, it did not make me an Olympian.

          Aldegheri may be great compared to everyone on this board, it still doesn’t make him much of a prospect.

          When fangraphs ranks him outside the top 30 in the Phillies organization, give a 35 on the baseball scale, and won’t even give him a paragraph of discussion, don’t blame me for believing them.

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        • AngelsFan1972

          9 months ago

          You have completely missed my point.

          Have a good day

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        • AngelsFan1972

          9 months ago

          @Halo

          I decided to go play on your little list that you stand so firmly behind.

          Adell first appeared in Fangraphs top prospects on 2018 at #66. That same list had Victor Robles at #4, Lewis Brinson at #13 and Scott Kingery at #25.

          Fangraphs is not the end all, be all. You still have to go out and play the game.

          I stand behind what I said. Quit believing everything you read and go watch and enjoy a game. There is no sense in saying Aldegheri has no chance when has never thrown a big league pitch.

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        • Halo11Fan

          9 months ago

          I was optimistic Ward, who has shown flashes of being good, might be good in 2024, I was wrong.

          I was optimistic Trout and Rendon might be healthy, I was wrong.

          I was optimistic Adell, a very talented player, with a great work ethic, could make a jump. I was wrong.

          I was optimistic Drury would play well. I was wrong.

          I was optimistic Schanule would continue his control of the strike zone and be satisfied with being the type of player he was. Not a high strikeout, fly ball hitter, with no bat speed. I was wrong

          I was optimistic O’Hoppe would continue to develop this year, I was wrong.

          I was optimistic that Sandoval, Canning and Detmers would finally do things to warrant their prospect pedigree, I was wrong.

          I’m not a pessimist. If you think I’m going to get excited about a no-nothing prospect, that stunk at AA, then you are wrong.

          It’s one thing to be optimistic about players with talent, it’s delusional to be optimistic about players without talent.

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        • AngelsFan1972

          9 months ago

          Not one person, including myself said they were “excited” about Aldegheri. I simply have stated the accusation of him being a no talent player is unwarranted.

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        • Halo11Fan

          9 months ago

          Talent is relative. There must be something you do well. There are sure things I did well.

          Compared to the elites, I’m a no talent wannabe.

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        • Johnny Bravo

          9 months ago

          Halo11Fan
          Are you voting for Trump this year
          I don’t believe you’re an Angels fan

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        • Halo11Fan

          9 months ago

          I’m not an Angel fan, It just shows you how stupid you are.

          The Ms strike out more than any team in baseball and have scored as many runs as the Angels.

          Good or bad, one game tells you nothing.

          As I said, fangraphs didn’t write him up, You have to really suck for fangraphs to skip you.

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        • Halo11Fan

          9 months ago

          My bad, he’s really good. That Perry sure has an eye for talent.

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    • Kruk it

      9 months ago

      At least you can spell Dana right

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      • Halo11Fan

        9 months ago

        At least. Since no one will remember the other guy a year from now, who cares?

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  4. whyhayzee

    9 months ago

    Dana went to Bosco, wonder if he faced Volpe.

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    • whyhayzee

      9 months ago

      Couldn’t find it. Delbarton and Don Bosco played each other and Dana was the winning pitcher in one of those games but I think they didn’t overlap. Oh well, it was fun to dig.

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  5. DarkSide830

    9 months ago

    Stoked for Aldegheri, though I am still concerned the Angels are gonna screw up his development.

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  6. sad tormented neglected mariners fan

    9 months ago

    What’s the corresponding roster move? DFA rendon lol

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    • i like al conin

      9 months ago

      You are probably not far off. They seem to be looking to compete next year with a solid core, a top bullpen since June, a young top closer, and nos. 3-5 rotation pieces. They could spend a good amount this off-season, and if this is the plan, no way Rendon is anything more than a bench player, if not released.

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      • sad tormented neglected mariners fan

        9 months ago

        I think the angels are a sleeper candidate for Corbin burnes, just seems like an albatross contract that Moreno would want to make

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        • i like al conin

          9 months ago

          I’d agree but they just haven’t given out long term SP contracts except for 1 in the last decade. They at least need nos. 1-2 SPs, 3B, DH, and a LF and RF dumping Ward, Adell and Moniak. Bullpen seems in good shape, but perhaps 1 more back-end RP.

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        • kellin

          9 months ago

          Nah. From what Minassian said, they’re basically sticking with their young guys next season. As much as Burnes would be a nice addition, as its been stated – Arte doesn’t like long term pitching contracts.

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        • Rexhudler86

          9 months ago

          @sad. for some reason I think they finally spend on a pitcher and his arm falls off.

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        • sad tormented neglected mariners fan

          9 months ago

          Just like with Robert Stephenson…

          Maybe they will sign flaherty or kikuchi and then they lose their arm

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        • Rexhudler86

          9 months ago

          @sad. The angels actually knew about it that’s why they put in the contract a cheap club option. Not saying it made sense because the market went south quick this year, but They could’ve had hicks or Lopez as a starter for the same price.

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  7. Blackpink in the area

    9 months ago

    Good gosh Angels. If Dana was a Dodgers prospect he wouldn’t see the show for another few years. Somewhere the answer is in the middle.

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    • angelsbroncosfan

      9 months ago

      If Dana was with the Dodgers, he would be injured, just like all their other pitchers. As a prospect though, if he was with the Dodgers. Putting up the same numbers this season, he would be ranked in the top 40 of prospects

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  8. radar

    9 months ago

    At least weees still got Minasian …… that’ll work!

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  9. User 2976510776

    9 months ago

    Minasian is a genius for eliminating Triple A alltogether and “aggressively” promoting to the MLB level. It’s working like a swiss watch. The team is already at the top of the division with young All Stars. That’s the youth development Moreno was talking about when extending him. Michael Lewis is writing a new book about him.

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    • Halo11Fan

      9 months ago

      Minasian is a genius.?

      The Angels have never been in worse shape in their entire 64 year history.

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      • Tim Stewart

        9 months ago

        Halo11Fan- What are you referring to with, ” The Angels have never been in worse shape in their entire 64 year history.” The ownership situation, the MLB roster or minor rosters. This team in my opinion has lots more potential than when Minasian got here.

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        • Halo11Fan

          9 months ago

          I’ve been an Angel fan since the days of Chance and Fregosi. Never has an Angel team been this bad combined with such a weak farm system.

          They might break a franchise record for losses, and their farm system is in shambles.

          Foe example. People are optimistically looking at Schanuel? His only chance was controlling the strike zone, which he no longer does. His bat speed is at two percentile, he’s got a 371 slugging pct, and with that bat speed, to pull the ball with authority, he has to guess and start his swing early.

          Whose idea was that? Why draft him there for the purposes of destroying what he did well? It’s just a dumb organization.

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        • User 2976510776

          9 months ago

          He was supposed to be a 20+ homer guy when they drafted him. At least that’s what the front office told fans

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        • User 2976510776

          9 months ago

          The talent level of the “youth” is no better than Walsh, Ward, Marsh, Adell, Detmers came up. One replacement All Star first half is a possibility for one of them if there’s enough injuries.

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        • AngelsFan1972

          9 months ago

          Devo

          Schanuel is in his first PROFESSIONAL season, not MLB, PROFESSIONAL. Every player needs time to develop. He is doing it at the MLB level, that is pretty damn impressive.

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        • Halo11Fan

          9 months ago

          Two percent bat speed is about as easy to change as 2 percent sprint speed. You can’t make someone into something they are not. He had a chance to be Mike Hargrove.

          They gave him the biggest bonus in Angel history for a reason, then at the major league level, someone decided to alter who he was, and he’s still only slugging 371.

          Why draft him so high to makeover his approach? Why not makeover his approach at AAA?

          In a nutshell, that’s exactly what is wrong with this organization,

          Everything that made him a promising player has been thrown out the window.

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        • AngelsFan1972

          9 months ago

          Again………….
          This is the guys tail end of his first professional season. If we were having this discussion after 5 season, that is a different story.
          He is learn and adjusting at the MLB level. That is not easy, and pretty impressive to be doing.

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        • RyÅnWKrol

          9 months ago

          For Schanuel to keep his head above water at the Major League so soon after being drafted is pretty remarkable.

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        • RyÅnWKrol

          9 months ago

          As a Gen Xer, I grew up surrounded by Baby Boomer Angels fans who to this day tell me that things were way worse from 1961-1977.

          They never came up with a generational future Hall of Famer like Trout. Never even had the opportunity to have a phenom like Ohtani. No World Series to speak of. No universally loved star like Vladdy, who they could say was their first Hall of Famer. 0 playoff appearances to 10 in the last 45 years.

          Angels blew it with Trout and Ohtani? Well they blew it with Ryan and Tanana anchoring their rotation. Imagine if they had kept Messersmith. 1973 rotation with Ryan and Singer both winning 20+ games. But could never come up with an offense.

          There’s a reason Gene Autry finally opening up his wallet in 1977 was such a big story. And he still made all the same mistakes that Arte has made. Carney Lansford won a batting title the year after they traded him. Tom Brunansky broke out in 1982 right after they traded him. Could’ve used Rance Mulliniks and Dennis Rasmussen. How about their first round pick in 1986, future White Sox closer Roberto Hernandez. Paul Sorrento? Dante Bichette? Even under Disney, they could’ve drafted Albert Pujols instead of Alfredo Amezaga. Why didn’t they sign David Ortiz when he was there for them to steal?

          I can go all day with mistakes that have cost the Angels their future. Just like Arte, it took a lot of failing at trying to win for Autry to finally let his GMs invest in better drafting and build a core from within in the 1990s. And even then, the Angels farm system was still ranked pretty low.

          Even with the current state of the organization, there is much more Angels fans can still be proud of than going into 1978.

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        • _french__

          9 months ago

          Don’t get the Schanuel hate here. Guy is top 30 in the league in OBP (his primary hit tool) playing 1st base defense at an above average level in his 1st full season at the MLB level. Do you realize how few 1st round picks can say they ever did even that?

          I get the developmental and organizational depth point but don’t act like him being a more than decent MLB player in his first season isn’t a success. Let’s see where he goes.

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      • fansincethe80s

        9 months ago

        Does this lie help you sleep at night?

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        • AngelsFan1972

          9 months ago

          don’t know how or where you see a lie.

          Is he not in his first full season?
          Is he not doing better 2nd half?

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    • i like al conin

      9 months ago

      Those young players are developing into valuable pieces.

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      • Halo11Fan

        9 months ago

        Not really. Schanuel and O’Hoppe are going backwards. Their starters are mess,

        Neto is a nice player, but ranks 15th in fWAR at short. When your best player is league average at the position, you’re in trouble. Which is why they may break a franchise record for losses.

        And the farm system is towards the bottom in virtually all rankings.

        They have never been in worse shape.

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        • AngelsFan1972

          9 months ago

          @Halo

          Is someone extra grumpy today?

          I agree O’Hoppe is in a rough patch, but he is in uncharted territory for him as far as games played.

          I disagree with Schanuel going backwards. In the last few moths he has show good signs of PROGRESSION.

          The Angels farm system is ranked at the bottom, and a lot of that has to do with failed trade to contend the last few years. But…a lot of it also has to do with the young core that is already playing with the big league club. There are not any metrics that I have found that accounts for that.

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        • i like al conin

          9 months ago

          Neto has very strong defense and can hit and is getting even better. Likely the first Angels SS to 20/20. O’Hoppe has been in a slump but not diminishing skills. Schanuel has had a great 2nd half. Starters are not a mess. Soriano is a legit no. 3, Anderson regresses to a no. 4, and the grab bag to no. 5. Bullpen has been one of the best since early June. Trout comes back next year with Christian Moore. Add in a few key FAs. The team is getting closer.

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        • AngelsFan1972

          9 months ago

          @I like Al Conin

          I agree with you. Neto is legit. O’Hoppe is (probably) going to be a star. Schanuel to looks like he will be a very dependable player. Next year Trout comes back and Rengifo comes back.

          Then you add the various young arms. If the Angels finally get some good luck instead of all the bad luck…they may be exciting next year.

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        • Halo11Fan

          9 months ago

          The farm system is a mess, they are not above average at any ML position, and they might set a franchise record for losses.

          No knock on Neto. Really good player, but this seems like the decade of shortstops.

          And it doesn’t matter why the system is a mess. Minasian got fleeced, so what? He’s here for two more years and what he’s done, or hasn’t done is irrelevant…. For whatever reason, this franchise just might be in worse shape than any franchise in baseball.

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        • AngelsFan1972

          9 months ago

          @Halo

          At this point for some reason you are arguing just to argue with any point people have brought up today.

          The sky is blue but apparently not blue enough for you.

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        • Halo11Fan

          9 months ago

          According to formulas he’s a strong defensive shortstop, but according to much more advance metrics, he’s not.

          Since he’s not Schofield, DiScarcina, Cabrera, Aybar, or Simmons, I’m deferring to the advanced metrics.

          Outs above average ranks him 35th out of 40th. Which I find much more accurate than formulas.

          But that’s fine if you disagree. Schanuel had a chance if he walked 100 times a year and struck out less than he walked. But for some reason the Angels allowed a complete alteration of his approach at the major league level. In a microcosm, that’s exactly what is wrong with this franchise. They are just now telling Adell to scrap the leg kick?

          This team need a new owner and a new direction.

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        • AngelsFan1972

          9 months ago

          Schofield at age 23 season was probably his best. Neto is exceeding that this year at age 23 season.
          Aybar was a part time player at age 23, same for Cabrera.and DiSarcina.
          Simmons seems to be the closest in comparison and if Neto continues to grow. I wouldn’t be mad at being compared to Simmons. Simmons was a freak of nature when it came to glovework, but I hear no one complaining about Neto’s glove other than you.

          Schanuel is in his first full PRO season, not just MLB , but first season as a professional. He has many things to learn, and judging by his 2nd half. He is showing he can learn and adjust.

          oh look there is more blue sky……………………….

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        • User 2976510776

          9 months ago

          Every year during the season, not during the off-season of course, an Angel drops the high leg kick and then they talk about how they “discovered” something new an the announcers hype it like they’re a whole new hitter. When they were told on day 1 by any average fan to lose it but they were stubborn and the Angels front office prides itself on being a “players team” so the can do whatever they want.

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        • Halo11Fan

          9 months ago

          I don’t want to say I’m down on Neto, I’m not.

          He’s adequate defensively, and a pretty good hitter. A wRC+ of 113 is good. Unfortunately this is the decade of the shortstop. If he played in the 60s, he’d be an all-star.

          Neto and O’Hoppe are the only players on this team that have a chance to be plus players. And that’s far from guaranteed.

          I was hoping the Angel would fire Minasian and start their turnaround before a new owner bought the team. Now it’s abundantly clear, this turnaround will not get underway until Moreno is gone.

          Since Minasian is here two more years, I’m now with everyone else, Moreno has to go and the sooner the better.

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        • GoogleMe

          9 months ago

          People that post on here always say their farm system is a mess because it is ranked low. These rankings are often times based on the top prospects.

          The Angels have had to promote players aggressively. O’Hoppe, Schanuel, Neto, Silseth, were all promoted before they should have been. If Angels followed most teams model, probably only O’Hoppe would be promoted at this point. The Angels also made some ill advised trades last year. The worst of which, they traded Edgar Quero and Ky Bush for Giolito. Quero, Moore, Dana, Neto, Schanuel would all be in the top 100 right now. Five players in the top 100 would put them much higher on the farm system rankings., making them less of a mess.

          Last year, the Angels traded away way too much. This year the didn’t trade enough, in particular Anderson and Rengifo should have been moved. There may be a reason for it. Arte is getting up there in years and may make an Arte type move up his sleeve this off season. Like a Vernon Wells, Rendon, and Josh Hamilton type disaster.

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        • RyÅnWKrol

          9 months ago

          You’re talking about players who have yet to have a full season of Major League experience under their belt. To judge them so quickly is foolish. The fact that so many any of them are league average at all this early in their careers is quite a feat. When a team knows they’re way out of it, they have all the room in the world to call up prospects and develop them in the big leagues instead. This is what rebuilding looks like. Something most Angels fans have never seen their team do and have only seen other teams do it from a distance. I have never seen more confusion among the fan base, and it’s caused by exactly that. A franchise that has been in win now mode for so long that Arte managed to groom his fan base into thinking his team is supposed to be the Yankees.

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      • User 2976510776

        9 months ago

        They’re already all not “young” that’s what happens when you draft 4 year college “kids”. Theres not a ton of improvement. What you see is what you get. They are what they are currently.

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      • User 2976510776

        9 months ago

        Pieces of what?

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    • User 2976510776

      9 months ago

      That was sarcasm people.

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      • AngelsFan1972

        9 months ago

        Devo

        Grumpy…..lol

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  10. rpoabr

    9 months ago

    They have nothing to lose at this point. If this overall strategy of promoting quick continues to work and they get a year of health from Trout/ Rendon – who knows?

    More likely it won’t and they’ll just continue to suck for a while.

    I have been impressed with the young infielders and one more mashing at AA. Give em credit for that at least.

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    • kellin

      9 months ago

      Dana has had basically three years in the minors and has been fairly dominant in AA this season. There’s really no point in keeping him down any longer. The starting pitching staff is a joke outside of Soriano (who is hurt), Anderson (who is coming back down to earth) and Kochanowicz.

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  11. kellin

    9 months ago

    HOT DAMN. Lets see what Dana can do!

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    • Plugnplay

      9 months ago

      Damn Right! Can’t hurt, let’s go!

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    • yeasties

      9 months ago

      The guy deserves some play time based on his flow alone

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  12. AngelsFan1972

    9 months ago

    The roster shuffle begins!

    Put Moore and Soriano on the 60 day and it opens the 2 needed spots.

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  13. Halo11Fan

    9 months ago

    Johnny, in all due fairness, it’s not a great idea to develop pitching prospects in the PCL.

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  14. kellin

    9 months ago

    AA is for developing pitchers, AAA is for developing hitters. Dana has a 2.52 ERA and a .97 WHIP. Even Kochanowicz wasn’t that dominant in AA and has been really good in the month of August.

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    • ClevelandSteelEngines

      9 months ago

      PCL not ideal for developing.

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    • Halo11Fan

      9 months ago

      If you want to know if a pitcher is a mirage or unlucky, look at his statcast page.

      Spoiler alert, JK is a mirage.

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  15. Rexhudler86

    9 months ago

    I like how the trolls come out on angels articles. Dana got called up cool let’s see what he can do. I don’t see Rendon, trout or arte’s names mentioned.

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  16. Buddyl51

    9 months ago

    Awesome news!
    Let’s go Angels!!

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  17. letitbelowenstein

    9 months ago

    Caden Dana = Canada den

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