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Marlins Were Among Teams Interested In Brett Baty

By Steve Adams | August 5, 2024 at 3:30pm CDT

The Marlins were the sport’s most active seller on deadline day, showing willingness to listen on virtually every short-term asset they had while also targeting controllable young players around whom they could potentially build future iterations of the club. One player sought by Miami’s front office was within their own division; the Fish showed “heavy interest” in third base prospect Brett Baty, reports Mike Puma of the New York Post, adding that Miami was one of multiple clubs interested in buying low on the former first-rounder and top-100 prospect.

Selected 12th overall back in 2019, Baty ranked on MLB.com’s top-100 prospects list every year from 2020-23. By the time the 2022-23 seasons rolled around, just about every publication of note ranked Baty among the game’s 50 or so best prospects. He and current third baseman Mark Vientos — second-round pick in 2017 — ranked highly in the Mets’ system throughout their prospect tenures, but it’s Vientos who’s taken the reins at third base and run with the opportunity. In 259 plate appearances this season, the 24-year-old Vientos owns a hearty .280/.336/.547 slash (148 wRC+) with 16 homers and 15 doubles.

The emergence of Vientos naturally led to some speculation regarding Baty in the lead-in to last month’s trade deadline. However, Vientos’ presence alone hardly means there’s no long-term fit on the roster for Baty. He’s seen minor league work at second base and also played left field in the majors. Current second baseman Jeff McNeil is no stranger to the outfield corners and could shift there. The Mets will also see both Pete Alonso and J.D. Martinez become free agents at season’s end. Baty is considered a superior defender at third to Vientos, so if Alonso and/or Martinez depart in free agency, Vientos could work in more of a first base/DH role next year (or rotate between the two infield corners and DH). That’d free up third base for Baty — if he hits enough to merit the opportunity.

To this point in his career, Baty simply hasn’t done that. He’s played in parts of three big league seasons but managed only a .215/.282/.325 batting line (73 wRC+) in 602 trips to the plate. However, he was also rushed to the majors in ’22 despite only having six games of Triple-A experience to his credit. And, of course, Baty would hardly be the first prospect to struggle at the plate in his first few MLB looks before hitting his stride in his mid-20s. Even Vientos flailed away at a .205/.255/.354 clip through his first 81 games in 2022-23 before hitting his stride in the majors this year.

It’s worth noting that while he didn’t hit in the majors this season, Baty’s still showing plenty of promise in Syracuse. He’s taken 203 turns at the plate with the Mets’ Triple-A club there and posted a sound .260/.360/.497 line (119 wRC+) with 11 homers, eight doubles, a big 12.8% walk rate and a lower-than-average 18.7% strikeout rate. Baty still has a minor league option remaining beyond the current season as well, so even if he struggles next spring or early in the season, he could still be freely sent to Triple-A for additional refinement.

Ronny Mauricio has missed the entire season due to a torn ACL but will be back in the mix next year. A top prospect himself, he has hit at least 20 home runs in each of the past three minor league seasons while playing shortstop, second base and third base. He recently underwent surgery to clean up some scar tissue in his right knee, per Will Sammon of The Athletic on X, but that isn’t expected to have a noticeable impact on his timeline. Francisco Lindor has shortstop locked up for the foreseeable future but Mauricio could eventually factor into the infield picture at third or second base, depending on other developments around the roster.

The offseason will be interesting with regard to the Mets’ corner mix. They’ll surely receive interest in Baty again while simultaneously exploring the possibility of keeping a franchise cornerstone (Alonso) and a still very productive veteran DH (Martinez). Baty could arguably be used as a trade chip to acquire help on the pitching front — Luis Severino, Sean Manaea and Jose Quintana can all become free agents at season’s end — but there’s also a possible long-term role to be had in Queens, especially if Alonso signs elsewhere.

From the Marlins’ vantage point, targeting Baty is perfectly sensible. They don’t have a long-term solution at third base. Jake Burger has handled that spot regularly since being acquired prior to the 2023 deadline, but he’s a defensive liability whose free-swinging, low-OBP approach at the plate leads to wild fluctuations in terms of offensive output. He’s better suited at first base or at designated hitter. Deadline pickup Graham Pauley could get a long-term look at third, but he’s a versatile prospect who could bounce around the diamond in a semi-regular role.

Adding Baty and his remaining five seasons of club control surely holds some appeal, but the Mets are presumably wary of sending Baty to another NL East club and watching him blossom into a regular. Still, the Marlins will have pitching to peddle again this winter (e.g. Jesus Luzardo, Braxton Garrett, Ryan Weathers and potentially even former Cy Young winner Sandy Alcantara), so they could rekindle their interest in Baty. He’ll likely draw interest from both rebuilding teams and others simply looking for a long-term option at the hot corner, but it’s far from a given that the Mets will actually move Baty this offseason.

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  1. Bill M

    10 months ago

    Baty is a trade chip. But what’s the return?

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    • User 4245925809

      10 months ago

      Still not a lot. Can give an example. Bobby Dalbec crushes it at AAA, yet is awful in the majors. Big differance between MLB and minors.

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      • User 401527550

        10 months ago

        Bobby Dalbec is almost 30. What do they have in common? Obviously there was more they could get more then you think if teams were calling.

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        • Poolhalljunkies

          10 months ago

          Dabec is what baty has to look forward to on his current path..thats what they have in common and teams called on dalbec when he was Batys age as well.

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        • User 401527550

          10 months ago

          Sure we can do that. Now we can go the opposite end use Mike Schmidt as the opposite example of a guy who struggled at first and then didn’t.

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        • Poolhalljunkies

          10 months ago

          Hopfully baty will turn into schmidt ..but come on..history tells us hes most likley dalbec ni shame in that baseball is hard

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      • CleaverGreene

        10 months ago

        Dalbec? really mate?

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  2. EasternLeagueVeteran

    10 months ago

    As the story indicated, he struggles in his first two shots in the big leagues, as Vientos did. Before this season. I would have thought the Mets would entertain offers for Vientos and keep Baty. Now, entertaining offers for Baty seems reasonable.
    But all good points to this story. Baty is a safety fallbaxk in case Alonso leaves. He is trade bait ( at least partially) for a starter when their rotation leaves

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    • EasternLeagueVeteran

      10 months ago

      Note for the off-season 2024-25: Mets go hard after free agent Corbin Burnes. A Stearns favorite, and a pretty darn good pitcher too. Baty would be packaged for a second starter if they send him somewhere.

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      • JoeBrady

        10 months ago

        Warning signs on Burnes. He has a declining K9 rate four consecutive years. That’s usually ominous.

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        • sad tormented neglected mariners fan

          10 months ago

          His ERA has been consistent despite the declining k’s, I wonder if it’s as simple as less swing and miss on his pitches or if he is throwing more ground ball/fly out balls

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        • pohle

          10 months ago

          charlie morton is another example of a pitcher who maintained bottom-line results as strikeouts dipped with age kicking in, although he is obviously an outlier in terms of durability. i hope burnes can stay healthy and find another gear in his 30s

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        • Ignorant Son-of-a-b

          10 months ago

          How’s his velo holding up Joe?

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        • CleaverGreene

          10 months ago

          Is that other gear worth a 6 year 180M investment?

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      • Samuel

        10 months ago

        EasternLeagueVeteran;

        LOL

        I assumed you missed it……

        Burnes sat in on his arbitration hearing a few years ago when he was with the Brewers. He was so upset by the points the Brewers people brought up (don’t know if Stearns was there) that he publicly said it forever changed his relationship with the Brewers.

        Scott Boras is now his agent. Mr. Boras is a master at finding the most desperate Owner-POBO for his clients, then pitting them against others to run up the price. I don’t know that Burnes would want a reunion with Stearns. The O’s are clearing salary to try to keep Burnes, but at least a half-dozen other teams will be fighting over him.

        A long time to go before free agency.

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        • brocnessmonster

          10 months ago

          I really don’t know that I feel that way about Boras anymore. Everything now is so analytics-based. Look back on MLBTR projections for contracts these last couple years. Weighing numbers and previous cases, and you (or, more like, *they*) pretty well know where the value is. This last offseason really showed that. Boras stuck to his guns and his guys all took short term deals for far less money than they were seeking. I think the current market doesn’t favor a salesman anymore.

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        • JoeBrady

          10 months ago

          IRT Boras, all teams need to do is to put a number on a player, and then refuse to exceed it. If you put a number of $125M/5 on Burnes, and Boras wants more, then hang up and move onto option B.

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        • Patriot12992

          10 months ago

          Players are such babies with those arbitration hearings.

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        • ThatsIT?

          10 months ago

          Than you everyone has to listen to boras lie and bring up collusion and an even bigger lie that his client is ready to pitch day 1 of the season and history suggests that’s a complete lie. What all the owners should do is make a rule if your agent is boras we won’t sign you to more than a year.

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        • NashvilleJeff

          10 months ago

          Teams could follow the Braves route on Boras. They don’t have any Boras clients on their 40 man. The last Boras player the Braves had was Shea Langeliers. He changed representation to Boras shortly after the Braves drafted him in 2019. He was dealt to Oakland in March of 2022 for Matt Olson. The Braves were the only ML team w/out a Boras represented player on their Opening Day 2024 roster,

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        • ThatsIT?

          10 months ago

          No wonder they win so much and have no bad contracts.

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        • JackStrawb

          10 months ago

          Yeah, I’m sure you’d be peachy if your employer since you were 21 said ‘Well, Patriot’s kind of an arse, he’s on the lazy side, his fellow employees don’t speak well of him, usually, and given how late he is to company picnics we’re beginning to wonder if he has a drinking problem…” you’d have walked away from the experience thinking, “no hard feelings–it’s just business after all.”

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  3. NYMETSHEA

    10 months ago

    Yeah. What was the offer for Bart?

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    • NYMETSHEA

      10 months ago

      Baty. Freaking autocorrect

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    • User 401527550

      10 months ago

      He was being talked about in the offer for Roger’s but the Orioles obviously overwhelmed with their offer.

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  4. mikeh

    10 months ago

    Baty was rushed, he needed a full season at AAA. Knowing when to bring up prospects can be delicate. Mets missed on this one.
    If Cohen is honest with making a ML team for the long term. One with depth and strength to make deals. Selling Baty cheap would be a huge mistake. Let’s see what the offseason brings.

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    • JackStrawb

      10 months ago

      As always, it depends on the offer.

      Baty for a comparable pitcher, a young stud in AAA who has struggled in 90 innings in MLB? That’s a deal worth making.

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  5. Rusteeze

    10 months ago

    Pffft release Stewart and bring Baty up put him at first if you have to Alonso slumping once more. Wouldn’t trade him for Soto

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    • horaceallen

      10 months ago

      Stewart is in the minors.

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    • Roll

      10 months ago

      So what does releasing Stewart do? They are both in the minors.. Need a ML roster transaction.

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    • rct

      10 months ago

      Since Stewart is already in AAA, they could just move Gamel and bring Baty up. They shouldn’t, though. Baty has had his ups and downs in the minors. It’s important for him to play through the struggles in AAA and break through, which he’s done a couple of times. I suspect he’ll be back soon, but the time he’s spending there now is important to his development.

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  6. Russell Branyan

    10 months ago

    Baty was and still is atop of my Brewers wishlist. Not sure if the Mets would be interested in a deal centered around RP or OFers though, and that’s the 2 spots MKE has MLB talent to deal from

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    • ExileInLA 2

      10 months ago

      The Mets have young OF talent (Gilbert; Clifford; maybe Acuña and/or Williams in CF), but that’s all at best a maybe for 2025.

      As for the Mets needing bullpen arms: only in years that begin with 20__…

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      • raisinsss

        10 months ago

        Fwiw, many of these deadline deals they just made come with multiple years.

        Sure, they’re not top line guys, but they bought low on all of them except maybe Zuber.

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    • Ma4170

      10 months ago

      I think they would. They would love to unload marte and the last year of his salary. Nimmo is solid, they really like gilbert, but im sure would take an OF w upside for baty, who i still believe can be a quality player. He was doing fantastic in AAA for a few months, but im sure is disappointed hes still down there.

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      • JackStrawb

        10 months ago

        Disappointed, to be sure, but he has to know given his MLB performance and inability to chew gum with his mouth closed (where’s Crash Davis when you need him?), that with Alonso at 1B and Vientos 148 OPS+ at 3B, he’s lying in the bed that he himself made.

        Baty has a ten cent head and for years he was in one of the most badly run organizations in baseball. That’s a terrible combination. He was still bouncing up and down during a pitcher’s delivery in 2024—ROUTINELY—leaving him unable to get to balls hit close to him. Doing that after 7 years at the hot corner? That’s a putz.

        Btw, Vientos has the same problem, but has so little range it’s not nearly as costly. A lot of his fielding is in his arm and Lindor helping to cover for his lack of range.

        Get used to “juuuust past a diving Vientos.” He’s a born DH the Mets will probably shift to 1B after they don’t re-sign Alonso.

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  7. sad tormented neglected mariners fan

    10 months ago

    What would alcantra get in a trade return this winter? I’d have to imagine the marlins hold on to him and trade him in summer 2025 hoping for a rebound

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    • BannedMarlinsFanBase

      10 months ago

      If the Marlins are going to trade him, it’s under these scenarios at the moment.

      1 – Someone surprises the Marlins this offseason with an offer that is equal to a package that the Marlins would get for healthy, peak-performing Alcantara. That is a huge gamble for a team to take.

      2 – Marlins know something healthwise, and decide to take the best offer before anyone has a chance to see Alcantara pitch and anything they’d know be seen. Not likely.

      3 – Marlins wait until Alcantara is healthy and teams are ready to give peak value for him. But there is an extra with all that. It assumes that Alcantara is pitching well and the Marlins are not contending for a Wild Card spot. What are the odds of the Marlins SPs healthy next year, performing at 100%, and the Marlins not being within striking distance of a Wild Card spot? That 6th playoff spot has changed the game a lot where we truly can’t count any team out until we see them play their season.

      Personally, unless scenario 1 above happens, I think a potential Alcantara trade is at least, more or less, a year away.

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  8. positively_broad_st

    10 months ago

    If the Mets are ready to move on from Baty, then I’m sure that more than half of the teams in the league would love to trade for him. Can’t label him a bust just yet…

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    • BannedMarlinsFanBase

      10 months ago

      More than half the teams? Are there really that many rebuilding teams?

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  9. Blackpink in the area

    10 months ago

    If I had to pick a winner of the trade deadline today it would be the Marlins. The prospect rankings will be updated soon but they acquired 8 of their top 12 prospects in trades this year. And they still have a lot of valuable assets like Alcantara, Luzardo, Garrett and Perez. I really like what the Marlins did at the deadline and with the Arraez trade earlier in the year.

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  10. ctbronx7

    10 months ago

    If the Mets have to choose between Baty and Mauricio, the choice should be easy: Mauricio. He can play 2nd or 3rd and got some outfield reps last year in AAA. He has the most to offer moving forward.

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    • mlbnyyfan

      10 months ago

      I don’t know much about Baty but hopefully he’s not the Yankees version of Frazier/Andujar. A top prospect who’s value is going downward fast.

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      • rmullig2

        10 months ago

        Frazier and Andujar had positive results in the majors before falling off. Baty has done exactly zero in the big leagues.

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  11. CGG12

    10 months ago

    With all those pitchers becoming free agents, I wonder if Stearns is planning on giving an old friend Corbin Burnes a call this off-season.

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  12. LFGMets (Metsin7) #ConsistentlyBannedBaseballExpert

    10 months ago

    Baty, Tidwell, Vasil, and Nick Morabito for Eury Perez. Who says no?

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    • Sunday Lasagna

      10 months ago

      @LFGMets, trading prospects for a guy that is recovering from TJ I can’t remember happening much, so the Mets in this case might say no

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    • BannedMarlinsFanBase

      10 months ago

      @LFGMets (Metsin7) #ConsistentlyBannedBaseballExpert

      Marlins say no. They are not trading a player of Eury Perez’s talent to a divison rival. That’s just plain stupid.

      And as @Yoshis Javelin points out, the Mets probably say no as well because of the injury. From the Mets side, if the Marlins approach the Mets for a trade with Eury Perez, due to Eury’s talent and potential and age, the Mets would have to question what the Marlins know about the injury that no one else is privy to. I know I’d question it.

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  13. Jbigz12

    10 months ago

    Vientos has worked a lot on 3B defense to become usable out there.

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    • JackStrawb

      10 months ago

      @jbigz12 Except he’s not usable out there on a good team unless he keeps putting up a 150 OPS+, which he won’t. He’s -4 runs at 3B by Statcast, making him -10 over a full season. That’s bad, and it’s also in the context that fielding tends strongly to peak in a player’s early 20s.

      Vientos MIGHT be playable at 1B, but he’s not a smart guy, he doesn’t learn quickly, he’s not good at 1B, he’s played 89 innings at 1B in the majors, and hasn’t played as much as 1/2 a season there in his eight years in pro ball.

      It’s DH time for Saggy D.

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  14. Attystephenadams

    10 months ago

    While I like both of them, both Baty and Mauricio have holes in their swings and strike out far too much at the MLB level. I think either one could be successful as a platoon player, but they’ll need to find a position as neither is a great defender.
    If the Marlins come calling with one of their starters in a deal involving either I’m all ears.
    And Mets fans, forget about Burnes. Whoever signs him will make a tremendous overpay, and that’s not Stearns MO or smart baseball economics. Stearns showed this year that you can put together a playoff caliber team with a middle of the road rotation without any aces.

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    • JackStrawb

      10 months ago

      Are we pretending that Stearns hasn’t been enormously lucky in that regard, given how bad the bullpen he had all offseason to put together has been?

      If he has the skills you describe, particularly wrt pitching, why has the bullpen been so poor? Why is the Mets modest team success thus far so dependent on marvelous luck with durability, so dependent on excellent health on an old team, and entirely contingent on breakouts from the likes of Jose Iglesias and Vientos and unlikely durability and performance from Bader and Taylor? —Those four players alone have turned a 55-62 team into a 61-56 team, never mind the great fortune of Severino, Quintana, and Manaea barely missing a start.

      Let’s see where the old starting pitching is by mid-September before giving Stearns full credit for that part of the team’s performance that’s largely attributable to luck.

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