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Frankie Montas Shut Down Six To Eight Weeks With Lat Strain

By Steve Adams and Darragh McDonald | February 17, 2025 at 12:50pm CDT

12:50pm: The Mets informed reporters, including Tim Healey of Newday, that Montas has a high grade right lat strain. He will get a platelet-rich plasma injection and be shut down for six to eight weeks. That will take him roughly to the start of April, at which point he will have to start ramping up again. Even if he is back to full health at that point, he’s likely going to miss at least a month of the season.

12:40pm: It’s a lat injury, per Jon Heyman of The New York Post, though the timetable is still unknown.

11:41am: Mets camp has only just begun, but Mike Puma of the New York Post reports that free agent pickup Frankie Montas has not been throwing and will be shut down for a “significant stretch.” Details surrounding the apparent injury have not yet come to light. The Mets signed Montas to a two-year, $34MM contract back in early December. He has an opt-out opportunity at the end of the season, though a prolonged injury absence will obviously reduce the likelihood of that coming to pass.

Without details about the injury or expected absence, it’s hard to say how worried Mets fans should be. Regardless, it’s not ideal to be starting camp with one of their key offseason investments already behind.

The Mets were facing a significant rotation overhaul this winter, with Sean Manaea, Luis Severino and Jose Quintana all hitting free agency. They had also lost Christian Scott to Tommy John surgery last year and Paul Blackburn had undergone a spinal procedure. They still had Kodai Senga, though he missed most of 2024.

Given the club’s big spending in recent years, some expected them to go after the top free agents, but they took a different route this winter. They never seemed particularly interested in guys like Corbin Burnes or Max Fried, instead opting for short-term pacts. They re-signed Manaea with a three-year deal, and also gave three years to reliever Clay Holmes with the idea of converting him to a rotation job. Montas got two years with an opt-out while Griffin Canning got a one-year deal.

Injuries have been an issue for Montas recently, most notable a shoulder issue that required surgery and wiped out most of his 2023 campaign. He was back on the mound last year with uneven results, posting a 4.48 earned run average and tepid 22.6% strikeout rate. That latter number did tick up to 28.7% after a deadline deal to the Brewers, which is perhaps what gave the Mets some optimism that he was back on a good track, but health may now be an issue again.

That shoulder surgery is one reason why Montas hasn’t been able to log many big league innings. He also received an 80-game PED suspension in July of 2019, putting his breakout on hold. The pandemic-shortened 2020 season then capped him at 11 starts that year. He tossed 187 innings in 2021 but then the shoulder issues slowed him down late in 2022 before the aforementioned surgery. Amid all those stops and starts, Montas has only once hit 151 innings pitched in a season.

If Montas is behind, then a season-opening start on the injured list seems likely. Until more details are reported, it can only be guessed whether the concern will extend deeper into the season. Assuming Montas does start the season on the IL, the Mets project to start the campaign with a rotation of Senga, Manaea, Holmes and David Peterson, with Canning, Blackburn and Tylor Megill options for the back end, though Blackburn also might start the season on the IL.  Prospects Brandon Sproat and Blade Tidwell should be in Triple-A, though both struggled at that level last year.

If the Mets want to add some more depth in the wake of this Montas news, they will have options. The free agent market still features guys like Quintana, Andrew Heaney, Spencer Turnbull and others. Marcus Stroman, Jordan Montgomery and others are likely available in trades.

Per RosterResource, the payroll is at $331MM and the competitive balance tax at $325MM. The pure payroll was in a similar spot last year, though they got their CBT number all the way up to $358MM. Whether they want to add more payroll to continue adding to the rotation remains to be seen.

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  1. MarkNYM

    10 months ago

    Tylor Megill

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    • dugmet

      10 months ago

      Q!

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    • dbacksrs

      10 months ago

      Want Jordan Montgomery?

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      • lumberghwashisnameo

        10 months ago

        Assuming the dream trade scenarios are out of reach (eg, Cease), I would trade for JM.

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    • Lee Harvey Oddball

      10 months ago

      NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not again!!! (megill)

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      • Idli Amin, the Last King of Sambar (fka Senator Tankerbell)

        10 months ago

        Moderately hot take: Megill might be better than Montas. Megill was a completely different pitcher when he returned to the majors in late August, armed with a new, Zack Wheeler-esque sinker that stuff models grade as one of the league’s best, and more importantly, got great results. Prior to August 30, he had a 5.17 ERA, 4.08 FIP, 26.3 K%, and 10.5 BB%, with a 99 Stuff+ and a horrendous (esp. for a starter) 90 Location+. Stuff was mid, command was awful, and consequently, so were the results. But from August 30th on, with the sinker well-integrated, he posted a 2.32 ERA, 2.75 FIP, 28.1 K%, and 7.8 BB%, with a terrific 108 Stuff+ and 103 Location+. Great across the board. It was only 31 IP, but stuff models stabilize very quickly, so there’s real reason for optimism. A fifth starter with a wide arsenal and a ~20% K-BB? Sign me up!

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        • Flyby

          10 months ago

          sadly its about options at this point. The only optionable pitchers are Senga, Peterson, Megill and Reed so just because its beginning of season they are going to keep Canning and Blackburn unless they are absolute garbage in spring training and megill shows he is probably a 3 or better.

          I think Megill deserved a shot though for the 5th spot or at the minimum long man in the pen but the number crunch will probably push him the AAA again to start the season.

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        • WadeBoggsWildRide

          10 months ago

          By sinker do you mean a Boger Reshens Foosball Slider?

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        • Flyby

          10 months ago

          nah he used that slider at the beginning of the season and more heavily in the summer months and become so awful they sent him to the minors where they told him to ditch it for the sinker and look at that he did much better.

          they should ban that pitch, It is ineffective and even worse causes pitchers to have to get TJ surgery. Perfect example is Frankie Montas used it when he went over to the yankees and we see how well that turned out.

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        • WadeBoggsWildRide

          10 months ago

          I have to butcher the name or our favorite commenter will blow up the comment section. Interesting that he was using it and switched.

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        • Idli Amin, the Last King of Sambar (fka Senator Tankerbell)

          10 months ago

          Sadly indeed, because you’re right about the optionality issue (which Mendoza alluded to in his presser today). But I suspect at least one of Blackburn and Canning will crash and burn, and end up getting DFA’d by midseason. Megill just needs to keep his chin up, dominate in AAA, and make it impossible for them to keep him there.

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  2. YankeesEmpire29

    10 months ago

    …

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    • PiazzaParty

      10 months ago

      Good point!!

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    • harrycarey

      10 months ago

      A guy has been so healthy and now gets an injury just blows my mind. How could this happen?

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    • MLB Top 100 Commenter

      10 months ago

      When they are done with surgery he will be Frankie N. Stein.

      Guess the Mets have a deferred rotation and deferred post-season.

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      • YankeesEmpire29

        10 months ago

        MLB will need to find a way to make contracts non-guaranteed. Maybe pay them half salary if they play half of the season with proof of injury on the IL.

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        • Blue Baron

          10 months ago

          Good luck negotiating that in collective bargaining.

          And why do you think it’s OK to not pay players who get injured doing their jobs?

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        • MLB Top 100 Commenter

          10 months ago

          Montas is a former PED guy coming off shoulder surgery. How could this possibly have gone wrong for the second highest spending team in all of baseball? Fortunately, Stroman is just a short cab ride away and I heard the Yankees will pay at least 67% of Marcus’ salary for 2025 and 2026. Letting Quintana go was a mistake.

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        • SteveC

          10 months ago

          Quintana is still available

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        • gugui

          10 months ago

          what you saying will no last to long owners and GMS will have a answer to all those injuries just at the start of every spring

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        • YankeesEmpire29

          10 months ago

          They’re sitting on the bench doin what?

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        • Blue Baron

          10 months ago

          How do you know what players are doing at a given time?

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        • burn0820

          10 months ago

          Last time I checked Quintana is available. Also, we don’t want Stroman back. He’s a cancer in the clubhouse and burned his bridges in Queens with his racism

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        • MLB Top 100 Commenter

          10 months ago

          Burno

          Sorry you can’t handle a proud black man and have to call Stroman names.

          It is fair to say that Stroman has a huge ego (as do many payers ofall races and ethnicities) and some teams liked him and others did not in the clubhouse. He was liked in Chicago until he mouthed off about not getting a new contract. Then he burned his bridges with ownership and management and he did it when his results turned from ace-like to poor, possibly from an injury.

          More importantly, Stroman is now an innings eating 5th starter and not that great. I completely get why no one wants him, but calling him r@cist is incorect, he is a decent guy in the community trying to build people up not take them down. If he was on the free market, I would say he is a number five starter who should get a $3 million base salary with the chance to get another $3 million in incentives on a one year deal. That means the Yankees will have to eat a lot of salary to move him.

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        • JoeBrady

          10 months ago

          Blue Baron
          Good luck negotiating that in collective bargaining.
          ========================
          It’s like the posters demanding a salary floor. As if one side or the other will unilaterally give the other side $100M.

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        • PiazzaParty

          10 months ago

          deadspin.com/marcus-stroman-goes-full-kanye-184972…
          This the same guy who called THE ENTIRE METS FAN BASE racist and trash lmao.

          “he is a decent guy in the community trying to build people up not take them down”

          Do you have any anecdotes to support that?

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        • DR2025

          10 months ago

          as everyone else is sit here and I have said before, this all happened perfectly predictable and I wouldn’t be surprised if it happened and now it did. Good for the Yankees though, maybe the Mets could use Marcus. Will even give the Met a discount, you give us McNeil or maybe just salary relief is enough. it is.

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        • DR2025

          10 months ago

          I think Stroman is worth more than $3 million, he’s a pretty good picture. Still, he was good for the Yankees last year at least in the first half, he was plagued by bad defense behind him which was not his fault. He might be better than a number five pitcher maybe even a four or three. He’s worth something to someone who needs a picture. if I was Cashman, I’d be on the phone with the Mets right now to work out a deal.

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        • stymeedone

          10 months ago

          Alex Cobb and Matt Boyd set this years minimum for starting pitchers at $15MM. If Stroman was a FA, he would probably get that amount.

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        • MLB Top 100 Commenter

          10 months ago

          Piazza Party

          I can’t speak to his work in Toronto and while with Mets, just Chicago. He was the Clemente award nominee in Chicago in 2023 and in New York with Yankees in 2024. Maybe he matured as he got older, many people do.

          mlb.com/news/marcus-stroman-s-community-impact-as-…

          mlb.com/news/marcus-stroman-nominated-for-2024-rob…

          hdmhfoundation.org/events/

          blockclubchicago.org/2023/06/07/cubs-star-pitcher-…

          marqueesportsnetwork.com/marcus-stroman-hosts-loca…

          None of this makes him a great pitcher, just saying that even with his ego and mouth, seems like he gives back to the community.

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        • PiazzaParty

          10 months ago

          Wow damn that’s crazy

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        • Idli Amin, the Last King of Sambar (fka Senator Tankerbell)

          10 months ago

          They didn’t let Q go so much as they simply chose not to re-sign him, and he’s still available if they change their minds. He’s 36, and not actually a true talent 3.75 ERA pitcher anymore, though I imagine he wants to get paid like one, and thus is still a free agent. Besides, the Mets likely believe that they already have Quintana at home, in the form of Paulffin Cannburn (Griffaul Blackning? Blackcann Burning?)

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        • Idli Amin, the Last King of Sambar (fka Senator Tankerbell)

          10 months ago

          Not that I think the Mets should trade for him or anything (for baseball and contract/payroll reasons), but the “Stroman is a clubhouse cancer” stuff is mostly nonsense. Ask a Yankees beat reporter, and they willi tell you that he’s actually quite well-liked in that clubhouse. He’s been well-liked in other clubhouses, too. Yes, he’s outspoken. Yes, he does things his way. But I’m willing to bet that, uh…under a different light, shall we say, he’d be perceived pretty differently by fans. You know who IS indisputably a clubhouse cancer? Trevor Bauer. I wonder what the overlap is between the “Stroman is a clubhouse cancer!” crowd and the “SIgN TrEVoR BaUEr!!111!” crowd is. Once again, I’m willing to bet that it’s distressingly significant.

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        • depletion

          10 months ago

          Thank you for the informative post, Top100. Stroman’s 2024 was a 4.31 ERA, 95 ERA. Mediocre, not terrible. Career ERA in CitiField, 3.43, 110 innings. In Yankee stadium, 5.60 in 133 innings. The guy’s a subway token away from being a decent pitcher.
          I also believe this clubhouse cancer stuff is BS. Lots of ballplayers say dumb things, Daniel Murphy perhaps. Murphy just kept his mouth shut afterwards, and continued to have an excellent career.
          The only question with Stroman, and some of the other pitchers named, is the price.

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  3. El Niño

    10 months ago

    Queue the Dylan Cease “rumors.”

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    • El Niño

      10 months ago

      *cue

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      • PiazzaParty

        10 months ago

        Que?

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        • Sayhay888

          10 months ago

          KK

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        • El Niño

          10 months ago

          Haha @piazza you’re prly right. I suck at grammar.

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        • goob

          10 months ago

          FWIW, both your grammar and your spelling were correct, in this context.

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      • MLB Top 100 Commenter

        10 months ago

        John de Lancie enters the chat.

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    • chandlerbing

      10 months ago

      or michael king
      or luis castillo

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    • Joe says...

      10 months ago

      “Ima Starter” Stroman is right there for the taking.

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      • Art Shamsky

        10 months ago

        Haha. You can keep him in the Bronx…

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        • top jimmy

          10 months ago

          He’s better than Montas. Even when healthy. Montas was a monumentally stupid signing.

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        • DR2025

          10 months ago

          no thanks. We’re not buying what he’s selling any more but unfortunately, I think we’re gonna need them before the season ends probably before the spring training ends. Someone’s bound to go down they always do. He’s not great but he’s confident that that’s all you need as a fill-in.

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      • horaceallen

        10 months ago

        Bridge already burned.

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      • top jimmy

        10 months ago

        Actually, Stroman for Marte actually makes some sense now in light of both teams’ recent injuries. And the money is almost even.

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        • ExileInLA 2

          10 months ago

          Not with Stroman’s option for 2026.

          And he’s a clubhouse cancer.

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        • top jimmy

          10 months ago

          Stroman’s 2 seasons with the Mets were better than Montas’s career year – which was half a decade ago. And the amount of Stroman’s player option (which may or may not ever vest) is almost identical to the amount they guaranteed to Montas.

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    • MLB Top 100 Commenter

      10 months ago

      El Nono

      Re: Cease

      Why, are the Mets trading Soto back to the Friars?

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    • Hammerin' Hank

      10 months ago

      Look at all these rumors… surrounding Cease every day

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    • RochesterMetsFan

      10 months ago

      Get in line with that take

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  4. Captainmike1

    10 months ago

    I have no idea why any GM thought he was worth a big contract

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    • Mets Era Thumping Soto

      10 months ago

      That’s not a big contract for a starter.

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      • Ankle Monitor

        10 months ago

        Your mets are a pretender.

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      • padam

        10 months ago

        It is if the pitcher can’t pitch.

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      • Captainmike1

        10 months ago

        That’s your opinion

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    • Captainmike1

      10 months ago

      Yes, $17 million a year is a lot
      Yes it is
      And if you think it isn’t then we have crossed the barrier to insanity

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      • DugoutJester

        10 months ago

        For a starter in 2025, relatively speaking, it really isnt.

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        • RunDMC

          10 months ago

          He hasn’t been average (ERA+) since pre-trade 2022 with OAK. He’s been not good on 3 teams since (NYY, CIN, MIL). This signing was a head-scratcher when it happened so early in the offseason, but it seems like “In Stearns We Trust” after 2024 pitching slaps.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          10 months ago

          For a starter with Montas’ history it is.

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        • Grey matter

          10 months ago

          @DugoutJester
          For a 4-5 starter, yes it is.

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        • Captainmike1

          10 months ago

          That’s your opinion

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      • Mets Era Thumping Soto

        10 months ago

        Well I guess the MLB is insane because that’s average starting pitching money.

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        • Anthony maresca

          10 months ago

          Then why is it so difficult to trade Stroman and his $18.5 million who is a bargain compared to Montas who sucks and an injured prone bum!

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        • ellisd19830

          10 months ago

          Stroman hasn’t been a brewer yet

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        • Mets Era Thumping Soto

          10 months ago

          Because nobody wants to deal with Stroman and his drama.

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        • DugoutJester

          10 months ago

          Maybe its because Stroman is a cancer to every clubhouse hes been a part of *shrugs*

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        • george d

          10 months ago

          With Stroman it is more of a problem between the ears rather than between the lines. He sucks. Head case.

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        • george d

          10 months ago

          It’s a shame that Cashman did not see this when he signed Stroman. No one wanted him and he gave Stroman 2 yrs + an option. He is a cancer.

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        • Captainmike1

          10 months ago

          Stop being so intelligent

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      • sad tormented neglected mariners fan

        10 months ago

        Most teams can’t afford a 17 mil AAV value period

        And this is for a guy who is a league average starter

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        • Mets Era Thumping Soto

          10 months ago

          What team can’t afford it. Do you think any Mariner pitcher won’t be paid more then that in arbitration years?

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      • Hammerin' Hank

        10 months ago

        Taijuan Walker got $18 million a year on a contract signed two years ago. So you can definitely make a case that Montas was worth $17 mill.

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        • Flyby

          10 months ago

          @Hammerin

          so what your saying is because Javier Baez is getting paid 23M Jose Iglesias should be looking for a contract around 25 since he was better than him?

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  5. benfiorica

    10 months ago

    That contract looked risky when it was signed…treacherous beginning

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  6. HopefulTwinsFan

    10 months ago

    Crash and burn.

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    • Avory

      10 months ago

      One can only hope.

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    • Steve E.

      10 months ago

      Crash and Blackburn, you mean?

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  7. chandlerbing

    10 months ago

    huge mistake to sign him
    ive been saying it all offseason
    and its alredy a disaster, we’re not even playing ST gms yet

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    • PiazzaParty

      10 months ago

      Nostradamus over here

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  8. DugoutJester

    10 months ago

    What a shame. I had high hopes for Montas this season with NY’s pitching lab.

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  9. phenomenalajs

    10 months ago

    Fortunately, the Mets have some depth, but it’s not a good sign for this risky signing.

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    • imissjoebuzas

      10 months ago

      Who’s the next signing? John Means ?
      Get those medicals first…..

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      • imissjoebuzas

        10 months ago

        Oops. Hit Post Comment, and the very next story indicates Means is with the Guardians.

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    • ExileInLA 2

      10 months ago

      What depth? Blackburn isn’t going to be ready for Opening Day either. Megill and Canning are now in the 6-man rotation.

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  10. Mets Era Thumping Soto

    10 months ago

    Maybe the Mets will be smart and move Butto back to the rotation were he belongs.

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    • imissjoebuzas

      10 months ago

      Butto to start, and sign David Robertson to set-up Diaz, as was originally planned 2 years ago.

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      • PiazzaParty

        10 months ago

        Assuming Mets got Robertson would you still prefer him to set up Diaz or prefer Minter?

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        • RunDMC

          10 months ago

          I’d let Minter prove he’s 100% with that surgically-repaired hip. But it’s not a bad thing to have RH/LH elite setup options based on how the lineup falls in the 8th.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          10 months ago

          It’s Minter by a mile. Robertson’s post-Mets stint was pretty ugly in Miami.

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        • geofft

          10 months ago

          Thats not entirely accurate. Go back and look at his game logs or monthly splits. He was terrible his first month with Miami then settled in and pitched well his second month. The numbers are tainted because the sample size is so small. Even if he were poor that whole stretch rather than just half of it, that was two years ago. He bounced back to pitch very well last year.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          10 months ago

          He got annihilated in the playoffs with Miami as well. I’m a huge Robertson fan, but he’s not a sure thing anymore.

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        • geofft

          10 months ago

          Agreed, he’s not. (And at 40 years old, no one is a sure thing in baseball). But he was pretty sure last season. And in the suggestion made here, he would only be a co-setup man, along with Minter. Say what you want, but just about any bullpen in baseball gets stringer by adding him to their mix.

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        • Idli Amin, the Last King of Sambar (fka Senator Tankerbell)

          10 months ago

          Robertson’s stint in Miami was a weird, anomalous blip. And it was driven by some bad outings early on. He was great with the Rangers last tear; still struck out > 30% of hitters, and the stuff still graded out great. It’s weird that he’s still out there, even at his age.

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      • Hammerin' Hank

        10 months ago

        Dedniel Nunez could be a good 8th inning option. He already was for a while last year.

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        • Idli Amin, the Last King of Sambar (fka Senator Tankerbell)

          10 months ago

          Agree, if he can stay healthy.

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  11. Therealeman

    10 months ago

    The Mets rotation is bad.

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    • PiazzaParty

      10 months ago

      Our 5th of 6th starters is injured! Let’s pack it up and plan for 2026

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      • Therealeman

        10 months ago

        Your rotation is bad.

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        • Mets Era Thumping Soto

          10 months ago

          It will be a top 10 rotation in baseball.

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        • Therealeman

          10 months ago

          We’ll see if Senga holds up. Peterson had a career year. Canning and Blackburn are Dumpster retrievals. Holmes hasn’t been a starter for 9 years. Rock solid. And being 10th ensures an early playoff exit, if you even get there.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          10 months ago

          As much as people are overreating, top 10 rotation is just silly. Stop it.

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        • Idosteroids

          10 months ago

          You definitely got the “rotation in baseball” correct . The “it will be top 10” part however….tough to say when the rotation is filled with 4 or 5 guys(outside in Senga)

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        • PiazzaParty

          10 months ago

          Therealeman
          Agree with your evaluation except for Holmes
          There’s plenty of examples of RP transitioning to SP and many didn’t have resume that Holmes has. He also has one of the best sinkers in the league.

          It’s a question for sure but I don’t think it’s as bleak as “hasn’t been a starter for 9 years”. Like that feels more like a misrepresentation

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        • Therealeman

          10 months ago

          Honestly the NL trophy should go to LA now. Incredible off season.

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        • Mets Era Thumping Soto

          10 months ago

          The Mets staff was 13 last year and the Phillies 11th. The Mets are getting Senga back and added dramatically to their bullpen and I believe Holmes will be better than Severino. Unless you think losing Quintana will be a dramatic loss they will be top 10.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          10 months ago

          The Phillies had no 5th starter last year. They had the worst production in the league in that spot. They now have a combination of Luzardo and Painter in thar spot with Waljer for depth. The Phillies 1-4 was amongst the best in all of baseball and that’s still there. The Mets rotation has more question marks than it did last year. The Phillies literally plugged their weakness with a strength. I still think they Mets are better overall because of their insane lineup and bullpen, but I think the Phils starters are significantly better and last year’s numbers were skewed by thr Phils 5th spot.

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        • Motor City Beach Bum

          10 months ago

          Ummmh…no.

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        • Steve E.

          10 months ago

          Valid points.

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        • Therealeman

          10 months ago

          I agree with this. However, the Phillies bullpen probably took a small step back. The core hitters are aging and Crawford and Miller aren’t quite ready. Unless the Phillies see Stott, Marsh, Rojas even Bohm — two of those guys — have better years than 2024, I agree with whoever posted they look like an 87 win team.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          10 months ago

          I’m only talking starting pitching here. Like I said, I think the Mets are better overall because of that lineup. But the Mets will not have a top 10 rotation unless something drastic happens. And the Phils rotation is very good. Mets lineup and bullpen are elite IMO.

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        • unglar

          10 months ago

          Tiers as I see it (no order among them intended)

          Dodgers
          (Snell, Glashow, Yamamoto, Sasaki, and… oh yeah, some guy named Ohtani, with depth 3 deep)

          Teams with 3+ playoff starters:
          Yankees
          Seattle
          Padres
          Phillies
          Dbacks

          Teams with 2 guys and some wildcards:
          Blue Jays
          Red Sox
          Pirates
          Guardians
          Royals
          Tigers

          Teams with 1 guy and a whole lot of variance:
          Mets
          Orioles
          Rays
          Braves
          Rangers
          Pirates
          Brewers
          Astros

          Teams not looking ready:
          Reds
          Cubs
          Giants
          Twins

          Teams still in the league:
          Angels
          A’s
          Cardinals
          Marlins

          Dumpster fire:
          Rockies
          White Sox

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        • Mets Era Thumping Soto

          10 months ago

          Your assessments are pretty good except I think the Reds might be a lot higher then you think.

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        • rct

          10 months ago

          Top 10? Most likely no. But it’ll be probably somewhere around 11-15. A lot of things would have to go right to be top 10:

          Manaea – repeat last year’s performance; not a sure thing
          Senga – return to form from a year-long injury
          David Peterson – see Manaea
          Clay Holmes – conversion to starter would need to work
          Montas/Megill/Blackburn/Canning – be league average
          Sproat – make debut and pitch up to the hype

          And of course, stay healthy. There’s just way too much to have to go right for them to have a top 10 rotation.

          But one good thing is that they don’t have to be a top 10 rotation in order to be a playoff team. The offense was one of the best in the league last year, brought back practically everyone, and added Juan Soto. The bullpen (on paper, at least) is improved. Mets will be a good team, but the rotation will likely be a weak spot.

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        • Ankle Monitor

          10 months ago

          Wrong

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    • Edp007

      10 months ago

      Can’t win NL east , third is likely with this staff.

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  12. Clones92

    10 months ago

    And this is why these contracts should not be guaranteed. The MLB needs to be more like the NFL.

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    • Mets Era Thumping Soto

      10 months ago

      Screwing players over by injuring them for life and then telling them to pound sand. Yes that is a real good system.

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      • crise

        10 months ago

        Truth. If anything the NFL should be guaranteeing contracts for the guys that get hurt. They’d certainly treat them better if they were stuck with the guy thru the end of the deal (eg stop playing, get surgery, get PT rather than pain killers and tape and then cut them if anything doesn’t heal right).

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        • ChuckyNJ

          10 months ago

          We’ve had our first LOL of the spring and you’re saying baseball should be the NFL?

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        • crise

          10 months ago

          no, that the nfl sucks for not guaranteeing the deals it signs with players.

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  13. Perreault11

    10 months ago

    Never saw this coming. Is he somehow related to Giancarlo Stanton? Or do workout together in the offseason?

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  14. GOP Lizards

    10 months ago

    Can Soto pitch?

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    • Steve E.

      10 months ago

      Nope. He can’t run or play defense, either.

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      • GOP Lizards

        10 months ago

        Sounds like a bargain.

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  15. bighiggy

    10 months ago

    Cards have a matz for sale.

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  16. greatgame 2

    10 months ago

    what a waste

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  17. Trotski

    10 months ago

    I’d rather Montas be hurt early than Senga or Manaea, but not a great start to his Mets tenure. This is why Stearns emphasized depth. He should be thought of as our 5th starter behind Senga, Manaea, Peterson and Holmes, so Canning or Blackburn should be capable to stepping into that role.

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    • Ankle Monitor

      10 months ago

      Ugh staff my friend. Falling far behind the Phillies.

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      • Mets Era Thumping Soto

        10 months ago

        Phillies are going to win 85 games this year. They aren’t running away with anything.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          10 months ago

          Lol. Let’s bet money on that. Please.

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        • Ankle Monitor

          10 months ago

          The Phillies go 6 deep with a kid named painter . waiting for his day. No converted relievers , hoping liking Holmes. Come back when you are a bit more informed about America’s pastime, youngster.

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        • Mets Era Thumping Soto

          10 months ago

          Well the Mets have a couple youngsters too, old fella. Painter hasn’t pitched in two years. I think that is being a bit more hopeful than a converted all star reliever and your relying on a magical bounce back year from a guy with a 5 ERA.The Phillies were what they were and it wasn’t dramatically different then the Mets.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          10 months ago

          Luzardo as a 5th starter vs literally no 5th starter last year. If you don’t see that as a significant change then you don’t know baseball.

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        • PiazzaParty

          10 months ago

          ” Come back when you are a bit more informed about America’s pastime, youngster.”

          How arrogant does someone have to be to even think this sentence?

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        • Mets Era Thumping Soto

          10 months ago

          Your laughing at pecota projections? One of the top projections out there? They have them winning 85 games and missing the playoffs.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          10 months ago

          I don’t think you fully understand pecota projections and how they were way off last year as well.

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        • Mets Era Thumping Soto

          10 months ago

          Luzardo as a 5th starter with his minuscule 5 ERA or getting Senga back. Yes I’m sure that works out for the Phillies. Everyone of your starters will have a worse year than last year besides Luzardo.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          10 months ago

          Pecota had the Phils at 83 last year. They won 95. Pecota had the Phils ranked at 85 this year. Basically what this means is, Pecota is essentially worthless if you don’t get the context. Barring injury, I don’t think the Mets starters are anywhere close to the Phils. Manaea is the only guy I trust, and I expect a decline. I still think the Mets are a better team though. That lineup is insane.

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        • PiazzaParty

          10 months ago

          “Manaea is the only guy I trust, and I expect a decline”

          That’s interesting Von, why?

          I feel like his arm angle from June on was an epiphany and I’m excited for a full year of it

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        • Mets Era Thumping Soto

          10 months ago

          Better than Fangraphs who are always drastically off. They are just projections. I just think a lot of Phillies had career years that won’t be duplicated. I’m sure Harper will have a monster year. Schwarber will be good but not like last year. Turner and Realmuto are good but in the decline. I’m not a fan of Bohm at all. Wheeler is a monster but starting to age. I’m sure he will be great but still drop in stats just because he was awesome last year. Your other starters are good but not great and don’t differentiate with the Mets starters at all. I don’t see much diffrence in staffs besides Wheeler.The Mets have flaws too. I’m not fond of Nimmo or center field. We can always use better pitching. Who doesn’t.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          10 months ago

          Simple odds. That was a career year. Hitters didn’t have tape on his new angle. They now know what to expect. I think we’ll see hitters be more prepared against him. I still think he’ll be very good, but not as good as last year.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          10 months ago

          Not 1 Philly had a career year last year.

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        • Mets Era Thumping Soto

          10 months ago

          I know. Like 10-15 did.

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        • ChrisMonte

          10 months ago

          Over/under 87 wins Phillies Mets Braves. I got Mets Phillies over Braves under

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        • PiazzaParty

          10 months ago

          I think Braves win division in ’25, Mets Phils Battle for wc

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        • Mets Era Thumping Soto

          10 months ago

          The Braves still have massive injury problems and have players on the decline. I think they are 3rd in the division.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          10 months ago

          That’s not true at all. Literally no one had a career year offensively. You’re talking nonsense.

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        • carlos15

          10 months ago

          Cause their best players are old now, most are in decline

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          10 months ago

          Ironically, the old guys aren’t the problem. It’s the young guys who need to step up in the clutch.

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        • Ankle Monitor

          10 months ago

          Nonsensical drip drop .

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        • Ankle Monitor

          10 months ago

          Someone who actually knows something about the sport chumley.

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        • Ankle Monitor

          10 months ago

          Phillies will runaway with this division

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        • Ankle Monitor

          10 months ago

          Mets are a 500 team at best my friend.

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        • Ankle Monitor

          10 months ago

          Have another slice of piazza and learn something here.

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        • Ankle Monitor

          10 months ago

          Von you are wasting your time, this child is a newcomer to our sport.

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        • Ankle Monitor

          10 months ago

          Mute yourself

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        • PiazzaParty

          10 months ago

          Johnny
          Mets won 89 games and now have a better line up and bullpen, you think they’re a 500 team? How?

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        • Ankle Monitor

          10 months ago

          I think their pitching is significantly weaker. I think their manager is a definite weak link. My opinion.

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        • Ankle Monitor

          10 months ago

          Piazza let’s be real, the Phillies starting staff is the best in baseball.

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        • PiazzaParty

          10 months ago

          That’s great for the Phillies.
          The Mets won 89 games last year with the 15th best pitching staff in the league and now the line up has improved.

          Your opinion is we’re going 81-81 due to pitching staff and Mendoza mistakes?

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    • JackStrawb

      10 months ago

      @Trotski The intent wasn’t to give a #5 starter on a wildcard team 17m with a 17m opt in for 2026. By definition (the definition of 17 million dollars), Stearns has to have seen Montas as at least as promising as someone like Quintana.

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  18. Perreault11

    10 months ago

    Can the Mets opt out since the season hasn’t technically started yet.

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    • PiazzaParty

      10 months ago

      Pretty alarmist response to a 6 week injury for the 5th starter

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      • VonPurpleHayes

        10 months ago

        Exactly. Mets expected injuries. Their rotation is not great in terms of top end talent, but it certainly has depth. This injury tests that depth, but doesn’t impact their season drastically. If they get another pitching injury on top of this that’s a different story.

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      • PiazzaParty

        10 months ago

        I misread your comment Perrault, my apologies

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  19. icantstandyous

    10 months ago

    What a genius move by GM know it all. Any GM who discounts real pitching deserves to crash and burn and that is what you are witnessing. Stearns has done nothing but set this team back with such horrible pitching all around. Buffoon.

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    • Mets Era Thumping Soto

      10 months ago

      They don’t have horrible pitching and saying so is being a buffoon.

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      • Fowlerrc

        10 months ago

        The Mets have pretty pitching and are a distant 3rd in the NL East in the pitching department

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        • Fowlerrc

          10 months ago

          Pretty *mediocre* pitching

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      • icantstandyous

        10 months ago

        What roster are you looking at???

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    • PiazzaParty

      10 months ago

      What would you have done? Name one alternative instead of your E N D L E S S stream of derogatory comments

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  20. SupremeZeus

    10 months ago

    Best predictor of future injury is prior injury.

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    • crise

      10 months ago

      But the best mitigation plan is collecting a lot of arms. To their credit the Mets did amass a heap of pitchers.

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  21. AllAboutBaseball

    10 months ago

    Here come the Mets

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  22. jammin464_

    10 months ago

    Imagine…..he could be out for the year and the club is on the hook to pay him every penny….I know the union would never allow it, but it seems like in long layoffs the salary should decrease to the league minimum or some other fair (%) reduction. I’m pretty sure with most other jobs, you have to go on disability or something eventually, Hey, the league minimum is like 800k now(?)….seems like no hardship there. I know most people have no sympathy for club owners, but I bet the lost wages ANY club faces each year due to injuries are staggering….

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    • cwsOverhaul

      10 months ago

      That won’t happen. Guaranteed deals regardless of one’s performance or availability run contrary to human motivation, but owners are good with it since they have upper hand in the pre-arb years…..and arb years since only high $ if player doing well.
      Besides, if deep pocket teams could get out of paying guys large chunks of FA money, they could hog/outbid for even more talent by playing the math some will have long IL stretches.

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    • Killer of Ignorance

      10 months ago

      The Yankees were victims of a similar situation when they acquired Montas. Seattle got Luis Castillo so Cashman traded for Montas as option number 2. After pitching pretty well for the A’s up till that point, Montas got bombed in his 1st Yankee start and went on to pitch a mammoth 39 inns, for the Yanks with a sparkling 6.39 ERA and was shut down after that till he pitched 1.1 innings for NY at the end of the next season after recovering from whatever ailed him and was let go. One of Cashman’s most pleasant trade memories.

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  23. WideWorldofSports

    10 months ago

    Please see my comment at the time of signing here:

    mlbtraderumors.com/2024/12/mets-sign-frankie-monta…

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  24. Metsies

    10 months ago

    How did he pass a physical?

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  25. User 3544663696

    10 months ago

    A Trevor Bauer signing makes sense.

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    • Salzilla

      10 months ago

      Bye BITA!

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  26. Salzilla

    10 months ago

    Don’t worry the Pitching Lab will fix him!

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    • PiazzaParty

      10 months ago

      Pitching labs don’t heal injuries.
      They may alter deliveries to help mitigate injury risk but they don’t, AFAIK, offer medical services.

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      • Salzilla

        10 months ago

        …

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  27. 86mets

    10 months ago

    This was a bad deal to start with and now it’s getting worse. Golden boy Stearns isn’t the genius that he thinks he is. Do I hear $34 million being flushed down the drain?? Yes! Yes I do.

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    • PiazzaParty

      10 months ago

      Do I hear someone crying into their pillow because the 5th starter is gonna miss 5 starts? Yes! Yes I do!

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  28. Fooque2

    10 months ago

    Happened while signing the contract

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    • Steve E.

      10 months ago

      Writer’s cramp is a significant soft-tissue injury!

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  29. billy09

    10 months ago

    Stroman would be the perfect replacement

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    • PiazzaParty

      10 months ago

      Billy
      Mets and Stroman have bad blood, as he does with every team he’s every player for IIRC

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  30. YankeesBleacherCreature

    10 months ago

    Oh boy.

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    • CravenMoorehead

      10 months ago

      Montas is a Yankees legend along with Sonny Gray. Looking forward to both of their Yankeeography episodes on YES in the future.

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      • YankeesBleacherCreature

        10 months ago

        Can we have a collaborative one with Gray, Montas, and Gallo narrated by Randy Johnson?

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        • CravenMoorehead

          10 months ago

          Not Randy Winn?!?!?

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  31. CravenMoorehead

    10 months ago

    If the Mets need a starter I know another NY team that has one available….granted Mets leadership and their fans can forget about his social media antics during his tenure with the team.

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    • YankeesBleacherCreature

      10 months ago

      Yankees eat $9M and call it a day for a lottery ticket.

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      • Salzilla

        10 months ago

        Honestly, I’d do Stroman for Marte as Stanton insurance.

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        • CravenMoorehead

          10 months ago

          Salzilla- INTRIGUING

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        • Killer of Ignorance

          10 months ago

          Actually, right now the Yankees would trade Stroman for any player that could pass a physical if the trade partner would pick up half of the money Stroman’s still owed.

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        • CravenMoorehead

          10 months ago

          It’s a win for both teams…and Stroman.

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  32. Longtimecoming

    10 months ago

    Th next Dylan Cease trade rumor is being typed up as I post this!

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    • Daryl Pauley

      10 months ago

      I’m surprised it wasn’t in his post.

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  33. Bivouac-Sal

    10 months ago

    Overreact much Mutts fans? Calm down. If you were depending on Montas for more than middling rotation help you were dreaming. There are alternatives out there if his injury is serious.

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  34. Easy as 1 2 3

    10 months ago

    Dylan cease step on down

    Jett Williams
    Blade Tidwell
    Jonah Tong
    Serrano III

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    • PiazzaParty

      10 months ago

      IMHO that’s an overpay

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      • VonPurpleHayes

        10 months ago

        If I’m the Mets, I pull the trigger. Prospects are gambles. Mets can win now. This isn’t going to break the farm either.

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        • PiazzaParty

          10 months ago

          It’s our top prospect who looks suited for CF, a position we don’t have any long-term options at.
          I want to see what he becomes more than I need 2025 to be the year we go for it all w a rental.

          Also, if we got Cease during the season maybe we can do it without losing Jett

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          10 months ago

          Yup. I can count on one hand the amount of top Mets prospects who worked out.

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        • PiazzaParty

          10 months ago

          I’m not sure you can hold the current Mets development system accountable for what transpired before they were brought on

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          10 months ago

          I’m not blaming anyone really. The vast majority of prospects don’t pan out on any team.

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    • geofft

      10 months ago

      @ Easy Just another fan fantasy trade idea. Its been reported that SD wants at least one MLB pitcher, with the rest of the package being mostly close to MLB-ready prospects including a pitcher.
      SD went on record as saying that they expect to open the season with Cease.

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    • vpsd

      10 months ago

      If you don’t start with Sproat, don’t bother

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  35. carlos15

    10 months ago

    Bring Quintana back

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    • PiazzaParty

      10 months ago

      Agreed!!

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  36. 10centBeerNight

    10 months ago

    #4 or 5 SP. Watch the worst element of NYM fandom overreact. Also – vague reporting by Puma. Tells us very little.

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  37. top jimmy

    10 months ago

    That was such a stupid signing. He hasn’t done anything outside of pitcher friendly Oakland.

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  38. Sk8

    10 months ago

    They would’ve been better off bringing Quintana back. Montas is garbage.

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  39. DarrenDreifortsContract

    10 months ago

    700 plus million to go 81-81.

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    • PiazzaParty

      10 months ago

      It all hinged on Montas? Our 5th starter out of 6?

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  40. Yankeesforever

    10 months ago

    Mr. Magoo could have seen this one coming

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    • CravenMoorehead

      10 months ago

      And Stevie Wonder

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  41. Simm

    10 months ago

    And it begins.

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  42. AshamedMethGoat

    10 months ago

    Shocking. Maybe.

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  43. User 3544663696

    10 months ago

    They need to get on the phone with Seattle and pry a pitcher before they break camp. Clifford and Mauricio gets the convo going. It makes sense

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  44. Steve E.

    10 months ago

    Hey, where did I leave that Post-It Note with A.J. Preller’s cell number written on it?

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  45. Killer of Ignorance

    10 months ago

    Well, there goes Montas’ prediction a few weeks ago that the Mets would have 5 aces in their rotation to start the season.

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    • mlbnyyfan

      10 months ago

      All the money spent on Soto they refused to sign/trade for an ace.

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      • PiazzaParty

        10 months ago

        That’s not accurate at all. They ran out money lol?

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  46. shortstop09

    10 months ago

    Megill and Acuna for Luis Castillo

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  47. Dumpster Divin Theo

    10 months ago

    Hurt locker

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  48. Daryl Pauley

    10 months ago

    Marcus Stroman and Jordan
    Montgomery are who I want to see
    Both are rebound candidates. If Stroman can be considered that rather than just done.

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    • YankeesBleacherCreature

      10 months ago

      Stroman is a fine backend, groundball starter who needs a good infield defense behind him. Yankees didn’t have that last season. That’s my pitch to the Mets.

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  49. Never Remember

    10 months ago

    That is so stupid.

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  50. padam

    10 months ago

    No surprise here. This was a bad signing to begin with. Money that could have been lumped with Alonso dollars to sign an ace.

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    • PiazzaParty

      10 months ago

      Who specifically should we have gotten?

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      • thecheddahbob

        10 months ago

        Severino. The concern was his injury history but the Mets instead signed this guy, who had more recent injury concerns and a guy who has never been stretched out as a starter in Holmes. The biggest problem with the Holmes and Montas signings were how quickly they were made. If Stearns showed the same patience he showed last year, multiple guys fell in price. Flaherty was an obvious guy who ended up signing a cheaper deal than both those guys

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        • PiazzaParty

          10 months ago

          Severino? He got $22M for 3 years I don’t think the Mets would’ve wanted to go that far.

          Holmes came up as a starter btw he’s been stretched out before

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      • padam

        10 months ago

        Burns. The Mets dished out $48M per for Montas and Alonso. Wasted dollars.

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        • PiazzaParty

          10 months ago

          There’s was zero chance Corbin Burnes was signing with anyone other than the Diamondbacks. Get real.

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  51. THEY LIVE!!!

    10 months ago

    Th Mets should consider using a pitching machine instead of retread humans.

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    • PiazzaParty

      10 months ago

      What’s a retread human?

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  52. Killer of Ignorance

    10 months ago

    I must have missed it but why are teams reluctant to sign Montgomery? He was a hot commodity not too long ago.

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    • LFGMets (Metsin7) #10thTimeBeingBannedForNoReasonFireDrewSmith

      10 months ago

      Montgomery is overated and overpaid. I don’t want him anywhere near the Mets

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      • PiazzaParty

        10 months ago

        First time I’ve ever agreed with you.

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    • carlos15

      10 months ago

      He’s on Arizona, they’d have to trade for him

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  53. Jimmy Garbagebag

    10 months ago

    Time for Stearns to trade the diapers in for some big boy pants. He needs to pull the trigger on the trade all of us have been waiting for:

    Ronny Mauricio and Blade Tidwell for Kyle Gibson.

    He’s the cy young type of talent we need now more than ever. Jimmy has garbage bags to take out.

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    • PiazzaParty

      10 months ago

      “Ronny Mauricio and Blade Tidwell for Kyle Gibson.

      He’s the cy young type of talent we need now more than ever.”

      I dk if you meant someone else but Kyle Gibson is in his late 30s with a career ERA over 4.5

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  54. thecheddahbob

    10 months ago

    People were worried about resigning Severino because of his injury history but were completely ignoring that the Mets signed this guy, who had pitched less in the last 2 years, and a guy who had never been stretched out as a starter. Should have just signed Sevy. I will die on that hill

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  55. yup 2

    10 months ago

    Trevor Bauer

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  56. PiazzaParty

    10 months ago

    Good point bro!
    The Mets 5th starter going down for 6 weeks is as good an example as there can be to prove NY is a Yankee town forever!!!!!!
    /s

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  57. Jplane

    10 months ago

    Looks like the Mets could sure use Jordan Montgomery?

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  58. Sterlingadingadong

    10 months ago

    Ha!

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  59. thecheddahbob

    10 months ago

    The Mets need to just go with the pitching they have or sign a guy like Lance Lynn. No need to give up a prospect. If they can get Montgomery or Stroman as a salary dump then sure. But I didn’t have much faith in Frankie Montas anyway. I wasn’t expecting much output from him that couldn’t be replaced by Butto, Megill, Blackburn, or Griffin

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  60. gugui

    10 months ago

    DR have to do better on MRI so much coincidence every big contract they get hurt so easily

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  61. Lemonade24

    10 months ago

    K Senga will be next.

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  62. jvent

    10 months ago

    Marte,McNeil and a prospect to Arizona for Montgomery Dump for dump

    Reply
    • Lee Harvey Oddball

      10 months ago

      Marte for Montgomery straight up. The money’s about even, I’m not giving more than that.

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  63. ChuckyNJ

    10 months ago

    Once again you can’t spell mets without LOL … this time the full squad barely arrived in Port St. Lucie.

    Reply
    • PiazzaParty

      10 months ago

      “Once again you can’t spell mets without LOL”

      This is such a fantastic self-own. What a tool lmao.

      Reply
  64. Mikenmn

    10 months ago

    Asking Mets fans, what do you think the FO thought they were getting for 2 years, $34M? He wasn’t good last year, 2023 was a washout–Oakland traded him injured to the Yankees in 2021, who got a total of 40IP out of him. Sorry to see him injured. Surprised that anyone would pay so much

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    • PiazzaParty

      10 months ago

      He got the market rate for a guy who is likely to throw 100-150 IP, which was what they wanted. We’re not trying to win the WS off the rotation, we need innings eaters.

      Reply
  65. LGM!

    10 months ago

    Call 1-800-TRV-BAUR

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  66. JGCNYYGBP

    10 months ago

    Just sign Quintana back. He had a really good year last season. He’s steady.

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    • LFGMets (Metsin7) #10thTimeBeingBannedForNoReasonFireDrewSmith

      10 months ago

      @JGCNYYGBP The only thing Quintana is steady at is giving up big hits

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  67. LFGMets (Metsin7) #10thTimeBeingBannedForNoReasonFireDrewSmith

    10 months ago

    Wow I’m shocked (sarcasm). This is what Dollar Tree David gets for his construction of the rotation. Montas and Clay Holmes should not be on this team. He is going to go the cheap way and have one if Canning, Blackburn, or Megill take Montas’s rotation spot. If I was the GM, I’d call up the Cardinals and do a Sonny Gray for Marte + Jonah Tong and Kevin Parada right now

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    • PiazzaParty

      10 months ago

      Dollar Tree David outspent every other team by 630 million dollars you fool.

      Nobody takes you seriously because your comments read like a nut job screaming on a subway platform at 2AM

      Reply
      • LFGMets (Metsin7) #10thTimeBeingBannedForNoReasonFireDrewSmith

        10 months ago

        @PiazzaParty Cohen forced Dollar General Stearns to sign Soto, Alonso, and Winker. Stearns’s moves have been Montas, Holmes, and Nick Madrigal

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        • PiazzaParty

          10 months ago

          Oh dang I didn’t know that. Did he text him or was it email?

          Reply
    • ChuckyNJ

      10 months ago

      Bringing Sonny Gray back to New York would be the biggest LOL of them all.

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    • Rsox

      10 months ago

      Sonny Gray wouldn’t waive his no trade clause to go back to New York if you stuck gun to his head and threatened to pull the trigger…

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  68. YanksPhan42

    10 months ago

    Stroman for Jeff McNeil. Make it happen Cashman!

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    • Rsox

      10 months ago

      Stroman for Marte makes more sense from both a position of need (on both sides) standpoint and also financially as their salaries are fairly similar

      Reply
      • YanksPhan42

        10 months ago

        Ummm, NO…..it doesn’t. Yankees need a starting 2B or 3B to fill out their infield. We already have Dominguez, Bellinger, Judge & Grisham in the OF….along with Waldo that can play there and the rookie Pereira.

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  69. Dub12533

    10 months ago

    Trevor Bauer would be an excellent addition.

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    • YanksPhan42

      10 months ago

      He already signed in Japan!

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  70. Wrian Washman

    10 months ago

    The fact that loosing the oft-injured and severely underwhelming Frankie Montas actually hurts the Mets rotation proves why they’re a 3rd place team. LOL relying on Montas and Holmes to get quality starts on a consistent basis. I wish you could leave laughing emojis here. Better hope Kodai Senga stays healthy that absolute “stud”

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    • PiazzaParty

      10 months ago

      “the fact that this team is hurt by a player they signed being hurt shows you why they’re in 3rd place”

      Wow. Sick analysis. You really dug deep there w that pseudo-logic word salad.

      “I wish you could leave laughing emojis here.”
      Of course you do, because you’re here to troll.

      Also even middle school children could replace emojis with words, why can’t you?

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      • unpaidobserver

        10 months ago

        He’s not wrong tho that Frankie Montas is a rebound candidate and was expected to anchor the middle of their rotation. A team that spent nearly 800m on Soto. Other than the great headline when he signed it does appear that the Mets are ticketed for third place.

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      • Wrian Washman

        10 months ago

        I think I was pretty clear on the fact that Frankie Montas and Clay Holmes were ticketed to be BIG pieces of the rotation because they spent all their money on 1 player. *Laugh emoji* Did this mere observation hurt your fandom? Get mad at Cohen and Stearns. Kodai Senga is your ace that’s sad Met boy.

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  71. Ma4170

    10 months ago

    Quintana on line one…

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  72. mrmackey

    10 months ago

    Shocker!

    Next shocker will probably be Clay getting lit up.

    Reply
  73. PessimisticRedleg

    10 months ago

    Jeez, the Reds overpaid him last year with a 1-year, $16M contract.

    So, of course the Mets went into “Hold my bitter beer” mode and gave him more than twice that amount over 2 years.

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    • PiazzaParty

      10 months ago

      “gave him more than twice that amount over 2 years”

      Another way to phrase that is “the same amount”.

      Reply
  74. YellowCleats

    10 months ago

    Montas was always a terrible signing. 2 years $34 million yikes. There were so many better option. Maybe Desi said he will make montas into the second coming of Pedro Martinez . Who knows what the logic was. So many better options.

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  75. PiazzaParty

    10 months ago

    Who?

    Reply
  76. DR2025

    10 months ago

    and here we go. What a surprise. This guy never wants to pitch or is never able to pitch. I knew this was going to happen. He did with the Yankees too when he was with them. He hardly pitched at all once they signed him, he was always injured. And even when he wasn’t that brief period he was not good. My dad will be any different now.

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  77. Fooque2

    10 months ago

    Been upgraded to Tommy John surgery……..The pen to sign that contract was to heavy

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  78. Tomas7

    10 months ago

    I’d move on from some of these sick bay types and get a solid, dependable, starter like Cease that was mentioned above. It seems the same every year. Let’s go Mets!!!

    Reply
  79. jvent

    10 months ago

    The Mets cannot go crazy and make a dumb trade and trade away our prospects so how about Marte or McNeil to Arizona for Montgomery, I would like to trade McNeil and start Acuna at 2b than resign Iglesias to backup 2b/3b.

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    • JackStrawb

      10 months ago

      You want to trade the only player on the team who is likely to be a competent regular at 2B and is also able to handle a corner OF slot—and who finished 2024 with a .900 OPS in his last 172 PA?

      Giving him away for Montgomery when AZ would be content to dump Monty for salary? While treating Marte and McNeil as interchangeable?

      Because Acuna had 19 excellent PA before defaulting to a .618 OPS for the rest of the regular season while giving nothing in the postseason?

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  80. Captainmike1

    10 months ago

    People that say he his making the average salary for a starter are so out of touch with reality that it’s insane
    Do the math, if every starter was making 17 million a year then teams like the pirates and A’s and Rays would have much much higher team salaries
    Do the research before you spit out insane statements

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    • Captainmike1

      10 months ago

      According to google AI

      As of January 2025, the Pittsburgh Pirates’ payroll was about $77.4 million, which is about $10 million less than it was at the end of the 2024 season

      4 starters at 17 million a year is 68 million

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  81. JackStrawb

    10 months ago

    Funny—as in genuinely amusing—how Cohen had Stearns shopping in the bargain bins for Montas, Canning, and Stanek then did an end run around him to sign Alonso for 30m and block at 3B the Mets young players likeliest to turn into competent MLB regulars in 2025.

    The O/U in Vegas on Stearns walking is down to 2.8 years from today.

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  82. Idli Amin, the Last King of Sambar (fka Senator Tankerbell)

    10 months ago

    Not that I think the Mets should trade for him or anything, but the “Stroman is a clubhouse cancer” stuff is mostly nonsense. Ask a Yankees beat reporter, and they willi tell you that he’s actually quite well-liked in that clubhouse. He’s been well-liked in other clubhouses, too. Yes, he’s outspoken. Yes, he does things his way. But I’m willing to bet that, uh…under a different light, shall we say, he’d be perceived pretty differently by fans. You know who IS indisputably a clubhouse cancer? Trevor Bauer. I wonder what the overlap is between the “Stroman is a clubhouse cancer!” crowd and the “SIgN TrEVoR BaUEr!!111!” crowd is. Once again, I’m willing to bet that it’s distressingly significant.

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    • Idli Amin, the Last King of Sambar (fka Senator Tankerbell)

      10 months ago

      Sorry, inadvertent double post!

      Reply
  83. Tomas7

    10 months ago

    I’m sorry, as much as we need another solid starter, I would have to pass on Stroman, and leave it at that. Let the A’s sign him.

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  84. neurogame

    10 months ago

    “Looks like everything’s coming up Millhouse.” — Steve Cohen (probably)

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