The Nationals are embarking on a transformational offseason, as the interview process is underway to find the team’s next full-time president of baseball operations. The firings of former PBO Mike Rizzo and manager Davey Martinez in July marked a major sea change in how the Nats’ front office, as Rizzo had been running the baseball ops department since 2009. Interim GM Mike DeBartolo is a candidate for the full-time job, and several other prominent executives from other teams have been linked to the Nationals’ search.
Ideally, a new hire would be able to turn things around for a Washington franchise that is staggering to the end of its sixth straight losing season. The bigger-picture question, however, is whether or not any sort of meaningful turn-around is possible without clear commitment from ownership, and there appears to be plenty of uncertainty about how exactly the Lerner family is operating the team.
An eye-opening piece from the Washington Post’s Barry Svrluga, Andrew Golden, and Chelsea Janes sheds some light on the Nats, as the Post trio spoke with “more than a dozen current or former employees of the Nationals and others around MLB familiar with how the Lerners run their team.” The overall opinion isn’t positive, as the story outlines a too-many-cooks situation that has left the Nationals without a singular leadership voice.
“It’s so inefficient. When there’s that many people in the room, it’s hard to come to decisions in an orderly fashion,” said one source. One former employee is still unclear on the decision-making process, wondering “How does [anything] get decided? Who has input into it? Who is influential and who’s not? I couldn’t tell you the first thing because I’m not in those meetings.”
Ted Lerner (who passed away in 2023) initially bought the Nationals in 2006, and his son Mark became the team’s official control person in 2018. Mark Lerner is the name most fans associate with being the Nationals’ “owner” in a broad sense, but Mark has been open about the fact that he is far from the only member of the family with a say in the team’s operations.
This seemingly means that up to 10 different people share input into the Nationals’ decisions, according to Svrluga/Golden/Janes. The list includes Mark Lerner, his sister Marla Lerner Tanenbaum, his brothers-in-law Bob Tanenbaum and Ed Cohen, four of Ted Lerner’s grandchildren (Jonathan and Jacob Lerner, Michael and Jaclyn Cohen), and “to a lesser extent” Mark’s wife Judy and Mark’s sister Debra Lerner Cohen.
The sheer number of people involved in the leadership structure is an obvious immediate issue. A former Nationals executive described this organizational structure as “chaotic,” and two different Post sources referred to the team as “directionless.” Another former employee said that “more than once, I had an owner tell me to do something and then had another say not to spend time on it.”
For some insight into the various personalities involved within the family, Mark is known to have the most overt interest in baseball operations, while the Post story notes that Ed Cohen “is more heavily involved in major business negotiations.” Marla Lerner Tanenbaum “oversees the Nationals’ philanthropic arm” and her husband Bob “is the least involved in day-to-day operations.”
The lack of a team president was noted as a flaw by several sources, as the Nationals haven’t had anyone in the position since Stan Kasten left the organization following the 2010 season. The specific responsibilities of a team president vary from club to club depending on who is in the role, but having someone from either a baseball or business background in the position would seemingly help the Nats, as it would mean fewer day-to-day decisions that have to be filtered through the many members of the Lerner family.
As it relates to the ongoing front office search, Cubs GM Carter Hawkins was a candidate but didn’t meet with any of the Lerners in person, which could explain why Hawkins is no longer under consideration for the job. Svrluga/Golden/Janes report that of the known candidates, former Padres/Diamondbacks GM Josh Byrnes is the only one who is known to have had an in-person meeting with the Lerners.
Whether or not a new chief baseball executive can help smooth this process remains to be seen, as there isn’t any indication that the Nationals will be looking higher up the ladder to install a president atop the organization. On a more positive note, one source feels the Lerners are cognizant of the leadership vacuum to some extent, as “these last 12 months have really kind of forced them to think more thoroughly about how they want to structure things on a day-to-day basis. I think there’s some soul-searching going on and they’re trying to figure out what’s the best way to move forward.”

The way forward is to sell the team!
That’s the only way that makes sense
Is it that hard for the Nats and other teams like the Pirates, Twins, and Angels to understand?
Aunt June is in charge of logistics, Cousin Ray Ray is handling concessions, and Mimi is in charge of scouting…oh and call your niece Muriel, she watches that HGTV a lot, she can make a new mascot jersey.
No wonder the Nats are in trouble if that’s the way they do things.
To be honest, only Mimi in your scenario needs to know anything about baseball.
The nats arent losing because of nepotisim in throughout the org, the are losing because of nepotisim in the wrong spot. Concessions for example are run through another company, so if a kid writes their check each month nothing changes. The baseball ladder needs to be clear though because overall strategy needs to be set and followed from top to bottom and thats what the nats fail at.
Sounds like w.sox. sell the team.
Funny, the White Sox reportedly wanted Rizzo but he took more money to stay with the Nats (which is not hard to do with Reinsdorf and his nickel crunching vice).
I do not understand how the White Sox are so bad, year after year, but Rizzo would be a good GM for any team willing to be even middling. Just think of his teams before Ted Lerner died. (I’m a third-generation Nats fan, but I started college at the University of Chicago. Many years ago. Know people who are devoted, and hopeless, Chisox fans.)
Sounds like the Twins structure.
Correct. Win Twins!* now comes with an asterisk, and down below are three paragraphs of legalese, conditions, and restrictions. And let’s not even get started on the cost cutting that’s only just begun due to the franchise being $240M in debt.
Inefficient and directionless…so what would describe the Pittsburgh Pirates? The Nats at least won a championship not too long ago.
Oh, the Pirates at least have a direction, that being “spend as little as possible, get revenue sharing, and make as much profit as possible for Nutting.”
I really wouldn’t say they have a direction. We’re regressing under Cherington. He’s incompetent on building offense at the MLB level and needs to go. And Nutting has shown no willingness to increase the budget. To me, that’s directionless. So we absolutely agree on that front.
They operate on the dependence of finding diamonds in the rough, but the people who are supposed to be doing that are wildly unqualified. They need to jump on those two front office guys leaving TB after the season if they want to operate like the Rays.
Sadly, Nutting will easily be outbid for their services by teams that care about winning, not just a profit.
I’ll be happy watching Skenes for one more year before he gets traded to my new favorite team
From my Nats fan perspective, the Pirates just look cheap, Not directionless. And not stupid…they chose Skenes over Crews.
Won by accident. They were a wild case team that barely made postseason.
Anything can happen in the playoffs.
Sounds like the Angels for the last decade. Welcome to the club
Only nice players in system came from other teams. Even with high picks Nats don’t get good players. Of course you have to realize they rated Robles their top prospect over Soto.
Nats waved flags around Robles…the swashbuckling Robles, the next Willie May, can do it all! And Soto happened to be promoted in 2018 because, best I remember, Robles had sprained an elbow making a diving catch. The big team lifted Soto instead.
A lot of bad owners in MLB. Not because they’re “not rich enough,” as some idiots think (the Lerners may be the richest private owners in the league), but because they insert themselves into baseball decison-making. The consistently good teams, nearly without exception, are blessed with ownership that sets a budget, hires some executives, and then goes about their rich-person lives.
Well, the Lerners are nowhere near as rich as Uncle Stevie. And they have always run the Nats as a seperate business, forced to pay its own way. No money from the Lerner’ real estate business. They should be able to field a competitive team if they hired a baseball professional and got out of the way.
Nats aiming to be more efficiently directionless for 2026.
Report: Correct.
You can probably make the same claim about 15-20 teams in the league. The combination of disinterested owners/bloated front offices has helped create this. Go back to a simpler time when you had the owner, the GM, and maybe an assistant GM and cut out the rest
A family is like a soup
Everyone adds an extra scoop
Mix in an ounce of smiles so sweet
A dash of cool to add the heat and you’ve got
Too many cooks, too many cooks
Too many cooks, toooo many cooooooks
Reminds me of an old Harry connick Jr. song. A little bit of me and a whole lot of you. Add a dash of starlight and a dozen roses too. Then let it rise for a hundred years or two.
Love the idiom “sea change”, Mark!
You could say this about a dozen teams. unlike those teams, though, the Nats actually have a ring that isn’t ancient.
Yes, but Ted Lerner spoke for the family and he said that Rizzo should run the team. There were blunders, as when they let Bryce Harper walk by offering so much deferred salary rather than upfront money. But the record speaks: when Ted Lerner let Rizzo alone but supported him on signings, the Nats had one of the best records in baseball. Since the Lerner children took over, the team wins 60 games a year.
Incidentaly, as a big market team, Washington gets a draft pick in the top five or six only every other year. This season, they will again finsih near dead last, but cannot pick higher than tenth.
I’m so tired. Sell the team already.
So they need a team president more than a gm or president of baseball operations.
They need to first buy out some of the other family members who don’t seem to have a clue how to run a baseball org.
The Lerner family shares ownership equally. I’ve thought that Mark Lerner should buy out the rest, but I’m not sure he has enough money. The family wants about $2.5 million to sell. That’s why a Washingtonian bought the Orioles instead of the Nats.
(Incidentally, I’ve been a New Yorker for about 55 years. Became a Yankee fan when the Muts banished Tom Seaver to the Reds for four nobodies. Loved 1978. And our daugter became a fanatic duriing the Torre years. Still have my tee-shirt from 2009. “Hip hip Jorge!”)
Got to include cheap as hell nutting of the pirates. Your typical slum owner
Sounds like the Browns’ ownership where Jimmy had wife Dee in charge of their draft one year. Lots of money doesn’t necessarily make you smart.
Are you saying it’s not like in the movie draft day?
In other news, grass is green.
I laughed out loud at this line:
“One former employee is still unclear on the decision-making process, wondering ‘How does [anything] get decided? Who has input into it? Who is influential and who’s not? I couldn’t tell you the first thing because I’m not in those meetings.'”
Well, you probably don’t know how things get decided BECAUSE YOU’RE NOT IN THOSE MEETINGS.
The owner and the team is responsible for getting everyone involved in those meetings. That’s how organizational coherence works, correct? That’s how teams get things done in an organized and agreeable manner, yes?
You gotta put some Mustard to that logic there, Tiger.
Everyone? I sure hope not. There are employees that should be included in decision making and employees that should not be. I’d hate to have anyone from ticket sales involved with roster construction.
And the Yankees won whenever Von Steingrabber stepped back and let baseball professionals run the team. I remember 1977 and especially ‘the run in ’78. And daughter became a baseball fan because of the Torre teams)
10 different people try to make decisions, and not one of them know how to manage a baseball team
When you have young stars like abrams, gore, woods, and since 2020 you somehow had the 8th, 5th, 11th, 1st and 2nd overall picks (why mlb invented new draft rules?) and you’re still in the basement of your division, yea incompetence is evident and change is needed. Wipe the slate clean
Elijah greene is a six million dollar bust.
Vaquero is right with him.
He was a bust until this year. Doing much better now.
Some top picks flop. I remember when the Muts ownership gave away Tom Seaver and the Muts finsihed so badly that they drafted Daryl Strawberry and Dwight Gooden. They also spent a top pick on Billy Beane, who was going to be as good as Strawberry. Flops happen.
I would move the team back to Montreal
John Mozeliak would seem to fit the mold of what they’re looking for.
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Sounds like they should be hiring a president first. It will be very difficult to convince anyone to come here if more than six people are conducting the interviews.
Sounds as if they could pursue Matt Silverman and or Brian Auld to head up their operations etc. and get their act together.
Can some of the former players ban together to buy the team?
The Lerners want more than $2 billion to sell.
Good owners should stay out of day to day decision-making beyond setting general direction in their choices of who to hire, and giving those people both a budget, and some freedom of action. In that way, good ownership can attract talent–FO, Manager, and players–talent leads to success, and success attracts more talent. I’m not going to berate billionaires for trying to make a buck–it is, after all, a business, no matter how we fans think about it. But if competitiveness is a distant second to making that buck…
After Ted Lerner died, the Lerner family divided decision making so badly that, as yiou say, putting a respectable team on the field is last. Attendance keeps falling each year, but not enough, I guess, to slap some sense into the Lerner family. The Nats will draw 1.83 million fans, a substantial number, but 13th out of 15 teams in the NL. (Source, Baseball Reference). No sense that the Lerners see this as a catastrophe. Unfortunately.
I suspect that they will extend DeBartolo as GM and find another manager, and run the offseason just as they have for the last five years. And lose another 100 games next season, and so on until some billionaire hands them $2.5 billion.
None of this is news to longtime Nats fans who have been paying attention. I believe Svrluga has made some noises along these lines before. But it shouldn’t have taken so long for the Post’s entire baseball brain trust to report this matter so extensively too..
The Post article reads like the Lerners are the afterschool special version of the show Succession.
Except that the Lerners are not fighting for control of the empire. They are happy to share control, making “consensus” decisions, as the Post says. Apparently the three learner children plus their spouses, and now some grandchildren all meet to make decisions.
I was a Yankee fan during the 33 year Nats road trip after the ’71 season. I remember that Von Steingrabber deferred to Gabe Paul, who made the Yankees winners again. And then Gene Michael revived the team in the ’90s, when Cashman took over. Imagine if every decision had to be made by consensus among every Steinbrenner child and grandchild and neice and nephew, and they all had a say at every meeting. That is the Nationals.
The Nats and several other teams are past their expiration dates to sell.
With the Nats freed from MASN, many people thought Leonis was a shoo-in to buy them and put them on Monumental. As it is, they still don’t know who will be broadcasting them, next year. Don’t be surprised if they don’t wind up back on MASN in 2026.
Aaaagh MASN sucks.
The average MLB franchise appreciates 12% every year, so there is no strong fiscal incentive to hire PBO. That position is expensive & the teams has fans showing up regardless. There doesn’t seem to be any urgency to win because ownership is content the cash cow as is. It also from afar appears too many egos are involved to make any quality baseball decisions.
Virtually the day after Ted learner died Mark put the team up for sale. He reportedly had multiple offers in the multi billions and after a year of letting the team languish under the prospect of a sale pulled the team off the sales market because he didn’t like any of the offers. Now the franchise continues to languish except it’s even worse because it’s stuck with an owner who clearly doesn’t want the responsibility of owning and investing in a team but at the same time won’t sell. It’s not a good situation. The city and fans have invested a lot in this franchise. I feel bad for them.
It was the Lerner family, not Mark, that made the decision to sell and demanded at least $2.1 billion. Would probably take more, now. They said they wanted the same money that Steve Cohen paid for the Muts. Probably are up to $3 billion, after Josh Harris bought the Commanders/Redskins from Dan Snyder for $6.1 billion. Who has a spare $3 billion?
There’s a lot of teams that fall into that description, including the one I follow.
You mean many teams are run solely as a business meant to make money with no real intention to win? And we pay for it wittingly? Golly
Not every business model has one asshoke in charge. The organization has it flaws, like they all do. But until the stands are full and the network contracts get sorted out this is a franchise in trouble. The team itself and the fundamental program of players is not the issue. At this point, even winning won’t help and they are set up with a great team of players on the upswing.
When you pull a crab out of the basket. The other crabs grab on. Some say they are pulling the crab back into the basket. Maybe they are just looking to get out of the basket too.
Let’s see:
Don’t draft well
Don’t develop players well
Don’t spend on FA talent to help the youngsters
Don’t have true leader in the FO
Not sure there are many experienced baseball executives (GMs / PBO) that would choose to leave their current jobs to join such dysfunctional organization.
Not a fun time to be a Nationals fan.