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Guardians To Prevent Emmanuel Clase From Playing In Venezuelan Winter League

By Leo Morgenstern | October 22, 2025 at 7:40pm CDT

Emmanuel Clase was preparing to pitch for the Tiburones de La Guaira of Venezuela’s LVBP this winter, as first reported by Daniel Alvarez Montes of El Extrabase. However, according to a new report from The Athletic’s Evan Drellich, the Guardians will not grant Clase the approval he requires in order to play in a winter league outside of his home country.

Clase is a Dominican native, so neither the Guardians nor MLB could have stopped him from playing in LIDOM. Yet, as ESPN’s Enrique Rojas noted earlier this month, LIDOM independently decided to prohibit Clase (and his Guardians teammate Luis Ortiz) from playing in the Dominican Republic this winter. So, Clase turned to the Tiburones instead of the Estrellas Orientales, the LIDOM team for whom he played in the 2019-20 and 2020-21 offseasons. Alvarez Montes suggests the Tiburones will try to dispute the Guardians’ decision, but it’s not a fight they’re likely to win.

Clase and Ortiz have been on non-disciplinary paid administrative leave since July, due to an ongoing MLB investigation related to sports betting. Their leave was originally scheduled to last through August 31, but on August 31, MLB and the MLBPA agreed to extend the leave “until further notice.” In a short statement announcing the indefinite extension, the Guardians made clear that they would not comment further until the investigation was complete. Indeed, no meaningful details have since emerged about the situation or either player’s future in MLB. The Athletic’s Zack Meisel reported from Cleveland’s end-of-season press conference on October 7 that there was “still no clarity” regarding either Clase or Ortiz. President of baseball operations Chris Antonetti suggested he’s hopeful the investigation wraps up over the offseason, but he wasn’t able to offer a concrete timeline. “We have to plan as if they won’t be here,” the executive explained.

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  1. Blue Heron

    4 hours ago

    Obligatory sports gambling is a plague on our society.

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    • The Raven

      3 hours ago

      Sports betting is not obligatory, no one is forced to bet. Neither is it a plague since only 20% or so of the US population bets, me not one of them.

      I do agree that it is not good for sports, and a plague on baseball.

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      • Blue Heron

        2 hours ago

        I’m saying my comment is obligatory to remind everyone how much sports gambling is not worth it.

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        • TB Sox NY

          2 hours ago

          But there is always the chance to win big,and then walk away.

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        • Flanster

          1 hour ago

          Yeah, but how often does that happen?

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        • Edp007

          32 seconds ago

          As my gf who worked the pits in a casino … always said as we discussed the suckers … “ they didn’t build this place for you to win “

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      • believeitornot

        2 hours ago

        There were so many ads for gambling while watching the super bowl. Not good.

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      • MetssteM

        2 hours ago

        The way the major sports leagues and media networks force it down the throats of the consumer could be described as a plague, perhaps…

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      • joes-6

        2 hours ago

        20% of the population 90% of which are under 35. Unfortunately it takes that long to convince young people that it is a terrible habit.

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      • Domingo111

        20 mins ago

        I used to do some sports gambling (small amounts of money) but it just doesn’t pay off. That former padres player who got suspended for live lost the majority of his bets.

        Sport betting brokers are smart, usually the money line is not profitable on both sides.

        I once did a calculation with fangraphs game odds. Did the Math for a day with 10 games. Of the 20 sides to bet on like 2-3 where slightly profitable, the Rest both sides of the bet had negative EV. Special bets like over under, runs per game etc aren’t better.

        So if you want to gamble you can do it but know that you are wasting your money, even if you have a system to predict results the betting sites have it too and have set the odds so that you will lose. Typically for example the actual odds for a game is 60 to 40 in favor of team A. But the implied odds offered are like 55 to 45, so neither side of the bet is profitable.

        That doesn’t mean you cannot win some bets but long term it just is not profitable.

        If you know that and you say I know I’m losing money but I play for fun anyway it is fine but mosts guys who bet regularly do thing they have found a way to outsmart the betting sites and make easy money.

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        • Domingo111

          8 mins ago

          Sorry my example was slightly off, of course the implied odds would be higher.

          So say Yankees are 60 to 40 favorite to beat the pirates.

          That means Yankees should be plus 150 and pirates minus 150. However broker will offer plus 160 for Yankees and minus 140 for pirates, so no matter what side you bet you lose long term.

          You can just as well just burn your money

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    • queenie

      2 hours ago

      If that’s the only plague on society then we are in a good spot

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  2. Cohen's _Wallet

    4 hours ago

    I respect MLB, MLBPA, and Lidom for the decision. Betting on games when playing affects everyone involved. No room for it.

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    • stymeedone

      3 hours ago

      I am against players gambling on the sport, but this is ridiculous. How can you respect them interfering with a players career? If the investigation shows them to be guilty, then say so. After this amount of time, if they haven’t found proof, let them continue their careers. How long should MLB be able to continue their investigation without a decision? Hanging a person out to dry without proof, for a never ending length of time should not be allowed by the Union.

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      • baseballhistory

        2 hours ago

        There is a good likelihood that a decision has already been made in the investigation. MLB, always protects it’s sacred cow, the World Series. No negative news was going to come out after the regular season was over. It’s almost a 100% certainly that both pitchers will be found guilty. The news will be announced no earlier than a week after the W S is over.

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      • joes-6

        2 hours ago

        They are getting paid.

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    • CubFan36

      2 hours ago

      They let Ohtani slide because he’s their cash cow. No respect here.

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      • kingtiger

        1 hour ago

        All facts to the contrary notwithstanding.

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  3. DarkSide830

    4 hours ago

    I don’t really understand this decision from Cleveland’s perspective, personally.

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    • FreeLuigi

      3 hours ago

      Cleveland is still on the hook for any medical issues. Why risk something like that while he still is on paid disciplinary leave?

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    • sad tormented neglected mariners fan

      3 hours ago

      Cleveland doesn’t want a gambler to gamble his elbow at the Tommy John casino, in Venezuela

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    • MLB Top 100 Commenter

      3 hours ago

      Dark side

      Cleveland has Clase for 2026 at $6.4 million and a pair of team options for 2027 and 2028 at $10 million. Rumor has it that Clase may be banned for gambling at least three years and more likely for “life”. Cleveland’s interest at this point is to make sure that Clase does not get paid for 2926 since he will likely never throw a pitch for them again. So all I can think is that MLB and Cleveland are unhappy with Clase.

      I mean, if the U.S. is about to destabilize Venezuela is support of regime change, you would think the Guardians would want Clase to be stuck on the middle of it all.

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      • waittilnextyear

        2 hours ago

        2926? Cleveland really deferred that one. Pretty sure they can prevent him from getting paid that year

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      • baseballhistory

        2 hours ago

        Both Clase and Ortiz will get a lifetime ban.

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  4. tj13

    4 hours ago

    That Cleveland is being non accommodating here tells me they’re pissed which tells me there’s SOMETHING here and something is not nothing and he needs it to be nothing to not be banned.

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    • rememberthecoop

      3 hours ago

      Wait, you need this to tell you that ‘something is there’? Of course something is there. Smoke = fire. Fire = you get burned.

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      • TheGreatOne

        3 hours ago

        I just want you to know I read and enjoyed every word of that post

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    • The Saber-toothed Superfife

      3 hours ago

      Makes sense…..

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  5. Jcant

    4 hours ago

    If Cleveland is fighting it, wouldn’t that mean it’s less likely they are banned from MLB?

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    • Jbigz12

      3 hours ago

      Hard read. You’d think they want him to have game reps after being suspended for half the season too though.

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      • CO Guardening

        3 hours ago

        Or not get injured so they can trade him as soon as he’s reinstated.

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        • sad tormented neglected mariners fan

          3 hours ago

          He lost all of his value he will probably get released like Bauer after (potential) reinstatement

          I don’t know if any team would give him a chance

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        • Jbigz12

          3 hours ago

          If he’s not permanently banned Clase will be on a Major League Baseball team. I’d bet my life on it.

          He committed a non violent offense. He could help a team significantly and that almost always matters the most.

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        • FenwayFanatic

          3 hours ago

          Won’t he be banned for life?

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        • TheGreatOne

          2 hours ago

          They’re gonna have a tough time proving guilt on this one. Not saying he’s not guilty but proving he intentionally threw two bad pitches on prop bets is not a low bar. Do I think he’s guilty yes. Think and prove aren’t interchangeable.

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        • Jbigz12

          2 hours ago

          Follow the money!

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  6. geanplayzyt

    4 hours ago

    Oh cmon just let him throw for once, these games don’t count towards him, if he manages to come back to MLB then he’s gonna look rusty as hell and pitch like he’s Brooks Kriske.

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  7. Release the Epstein Files

    3 hours ago

    I understand the team blocking him, but why doesn’t MLB just ban the guy. It’s not that hard to figure out he was gambling. MLBPA agreeing to the extension instead of just pulling the band aid off seems to go against their members best interest. Tony Clark is a poor excuse for a union director though so it doesn’t shock me.

    I wonder if Clase will find work in another league after MLB bans him. Probably going to be playing with guys like Bauer, Puig, etc in the Mexican or Korean leagues. Maybe him and Julio Urias can join the Savanah Bananas.

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    • Jbigz12

      3 hours ago

      Unless the league has moral objections to the gambling—he’ll be in the NPB or the KBO in no time. He was one of the best relievers on the planet.

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      • sad tormented neglected mariners fan

        3 hours ago

        Imagine a game where Julio urias goes 7 innings and Roberto osuna and clase finish it

        Also how is Wander Franco not officially banned by mlb?

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      • Fernando Ringworm Jr.

        3 hours ago

        It’s not “the NPB” it’s just “NPB.”

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  8. Zac S.

    3 hours ago

    Gambling is shoved down everyone’s throats to no end these days. I really think you’re going to see more players doing this type of stuff. Won’t be too long before you hear a big three sport game was fixed. And everyone can throw up their faux outrage, like how could this happen??

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    • i like al conin

      3 hours ago

      But unlike the Black Sox scandal, players today make too much to risk a gambling ban. If Clase and Ortiz did, they lost way more in earnings than any betting profits they made.

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      • Zac S.

        3 hours ago

        Oh I don’t disagree with you there, but the temptation for some of these guys might be too much. You gotta think, many of these Latino players come from super poor situations, so the quick buck incentive versus the years it takes to get the big contract makes it seem worth it. Plus, The Black Sox scandal, Pete Rose, these are American tales. These guys probably aren’t thinking about lifetime bans. Just easy money. It’s not like they all are super millionaires. If you’re a guy making the league min, 700K ish, once taxes and agents money comes out, now we are talking 350K or less in bring home, life expenses and what not, it just doesn’t stretch super far. Might have the Porsche, but you ain’t got no gas money.

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    • Another Dodgers Fan

      44 mins ago

      I would refer you to the NBA and Tim Donaghy…

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  9. Bill J

    3 hours ago

    If MLB is against gambling why do they allow it in their stadiums.

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    • Zac S.

      3 hours ago

      Because they are not against money.

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    • TheGreatOne

      2 hours ago

      They aren’t against gambling they are against the people who control the outcome of the product gambling on the product.

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      Reply
  10. Brad Johnson

    3 hours ago

    MLB shouldn’t be allowed to place players on indefinite leave without some sort of accusation. We know what Luis Ortiz is accused of. We knew what was going on with Bauer and Julio Urias and all the other domestic violence incidents. Clase has yet to be publicly accused of anything beyond a vague “related to investigations.” Tell us what, specifically, you think he did. Ortiz threw a suspicious ball. Is that what Clase did? Why not show us like with Ortiz?

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    • TheGreatOne

      2 hours ago

      That’s exactly what Clase did and he did it twice.

      Reply
  11. BigBopper

    3 hours ago

    Maybe this is a push for them to retire from MLB. Can then play elsewhere. As soon as the pay stops both probably quit.

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  12. oldgfan

    3 hours ago

    He sho don’t look too happy about it.

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  13. CC Ryder

    3 hours ago

    They’re not big enough stars to not be suspended and not be investigated.

    Reply
  14. H.Lime

    2 hours ago

    They’re touting parlays in game. It’s the next opioid addiction crisis.

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    • Zac S.

      2 hours ago

      I have a buddy that thinks “he’s figured it out”. At this point, he’s like a drug addict. Pretty much all he talks about. Parlay this. Need so and so to cover that. He even made a few bets this year on the WNBA. I knew he was gonna pretty much gone at that point.

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      • Another Dodgers Fan

        42 mins ago

        If he’s watching wnba games for gambling reasons, someone needs to help him.

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  15. Rsox

    2 hours ago

    Its funny, during probably the best season of “The Simpsons” in decades last season they did an episode where Moe and Grandpa recruit a two-way star from Macedonia to the Springfield MLB team and of course he becomes a huge star and of course becomes addicted to gambling on Baseball. During his press conference to confess his gambling, Moe acting as his interpreter turns everything around and blames all of the reporters representing news outlets named after betting apps. At the end they cut to Kevin Burkhart and Kevin Millar covering the results of MLB’s investigation and declare after a “20 minute investigation” the player was found completely innocent and Moe was blamed for everything. Obviously this was a rif on the Ohtani situation but it points out the absurdity in the fact that MLB can absolve Ohtani of any wrong doing in 5 minutes but almost 4 months later Clase and Ortiz are still in limbo

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    • Bivouac-Sal

      2 hours ago

      I wonder if stupidity is contagious. It appears to be.

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  16. Tigersin2050

    1 hour ago

    I, for one, would just like to see sports betting cease to exist. Just another addiction for this nation to pretend isn’t an addiction.

    1
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    • TheGreatOne

      1 hour ago

      People gamble everyday of their lives? Can i make it through the light before it turns? Is that a fart i can trust? All of life is a gamble

      1
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