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Administrative Leave For Emmanuel Clase, Luis Ortiz Extended “Until Further Notice”

By Nick Deeds | August 31, 2025 at 10:58am CDT

The Guardians announced this morning that Major League Baseball and the MLB Players’ Association have jointly agreed to extend non-disciplinary administrative leave for hurlers Emmanuel Clase and Luis Ortiz “until further notice.” Clase and Ortiz had both previously been placed on leave amid a gambling investigation last month, but that leave was set to expire today. As the investigation continues, they’ll remain on the sidelines for the foreseeable future. Neither player presently counts against Cleveland’s 40-man roster, and both players will continue to be paid while the league looks into any alleged wrongdoing by the players.

“MLB and the MLBPA have agreed to extend the non-disciplinary paid leave of Cleveland Guardians pitchers Emmanuel Clase and Luis Ortiz until further notice while MLB continues its investigation,” the statement read. “We will not be commenting further until the investigation is completed.”

The investigation had a massive impact on the Guardians this year. Acquiring Ortiz was a major piece of Cleveland’s offseason, as they shipped Andres Gimenez and Nick Sandlin to the Blue Jays in a deal that was headlined by Spencer Horwitz, who then was flipped to the Pirates in exchange for a package headlined by Ortiz. They brought him into the fold on the heels of a 2024 season where he pitched to a 3.32 ERA in 135 2/3 innings of work for the Pirates, and while he posted a middling 4.36 ERA in 16 starts for the Guardians prior to being sidelined by this investigation he was nonetheless a crucial piece of the club’s rotation mix.

As for Clase, his importance to the organization goes without saying. The three-time All-Star made his organizational debut in 2021 and in five seasons since he’s posted a sterling 1.84 ERA with a 2.36 FIP while racking up 181 saves and striking out 24.8% of his opponents. The 27-year-old enjoyed a career year last season that earned him a third place finish in AL Cy Young award voting thanks to an absurd 0.61 ERA in 74 1/3 innings of work in a 47-save campaign. Clase was crucial to the Guardians making the postseason last year, though he did falter in the playoffs as Cleveland fell to the Yankees in five games during the ALCS. A shaky start to the 2025 campaign caused Clase to post an uncharacteristic 3.23 ERA in 47 1/3 innings of work prior to being placed on leave this year, though he began to look more like his usual self after a tough April with a 1.85 ERA from May 1 onward.

The loss of both Ortiz and Clase left the Guardians significantly hampered headed into the second half this year, and while their 68-66 record is enough to put them just three games back of an AL Wild Card spot it’s hard to imagine the team putting together a brilliant September run to make the postseason. They’d need to overtake at least two of the Yankees, Red Sox, Mariners, Royals, and Rangers in order to do so, as all five of those clubs are ahead of Cleveland in terms of the Wild Card race at the moment. Even if the Guards do manage to sneak into October, Chelsea Janes of the Washington Post notes that today’s decision officially rules both Clase and Ortiz out for the playoffs this year because players must be active within their organization on September 1 in order to be eligible to participate in the postseason.

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  1. DarkSide830

    1 month ago

    Maddening how long these investigations are talking.

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    • okbud

      1 month ago

      If Aaron Judge was involved they’d have this thing all closed up by last December. And Boone would take the fall.

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      • schellis 2

        1 month ago

        If it was ohtani a interpreter would take the fall.

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    • CKinSTL

      1 month ago

      From the fan perspective, I agree. These are seemingly career-ending accusations though. They have to get the right call and give the players the opportunity to defend themselves.

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      • okbud

        1 month ago

        I agree completely CKin, but it’s a pretty bad look when the prodigal son has his inquiry concluded in a month and a few lesser names have theirs go on for months on end. They should have the right to a complete investigation and the right to defend themselves, but they also deserve to have such a matter concluded in a timely manner, regardless of outcome.

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        • i like al conin

          1 month ago

          Ohtani’s was totally different. Law enforcement led the investigation and not only didn’t find no evidence of guilt but rather guilt by his interpreter. A jury did too, Clearly there was enough minimum evidence to pull Clase off the field to not throw the integrity of more games into question.

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        • CKinSTL

          1 month ago

          Okbud – I know everyone likes to compare this to the Ohtani situation but I do not consider it at all similar. We are talking about players betting directly on their own in-game performance vs. betting on completely different sports.

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        • freddiemeetgibby

          1 month ago

          Your wild speculations are fueled purely by jealously and not facts.

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        • i like al conin

          1 month ago

          Unfounded conspiracy theory. Ippei was investigated by the feds not MLB, and the evidence from court is publicly available. You saying the feds covered up the crime? Yeah right

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        • i like al conin

          1 month ago

          @Pads Fans

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        • believeitornot

          1 month ago

          You actually said evidence was found.

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    • Brad Johnson

      1 month ago

      Would be nice if somebody said *anything* about what Clase is alleged to have done. We’ve at least been given insight into the tenuous claims against Ortiz. We don’t have any idea what’s going on with Clase besides supposition that it’s related to Ortiz.

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    • ba$eba||F@n21

      1 month ago

      It’s maddening how long most investigations take in general in MLB.

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      • Brad Johnson

        1 month ago

        I think it’s reasonable in the case of violence. They’re waiting on police. Allegedly rigging a sports bet is a different animal. Prove it or *^%# off.

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        • okbud

          1 month ago

          Agree completely Brad, in the off chance these guys are innocent they deserve a speedy inquiry so they can resume playing. It’s disgraceful to athletes, who already have a very limited window of their life to play sports, to slow roll an investigation and cost them an opportunity to play and earn money.

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    • kscheer

      1 month ago

      They’re gonna get cooked officially in the off-season. MLB not gonna open that can of worms now lol

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      • Brad Johnson

        1 month ago

        Short of acquiring communications (and maybe they WERE that dumb and texted about it), I don’t know how you can possibly prove a guy threw a ball on purpose. Feels like MLB made a problem, recognized it, and they’re trying to make it look like they can deal when they so obviously can’t.

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  2. sad tormented neglected mariners fan

    1 month ago

    If they were gambling on baseball or involved in an operation does that mean they’re banned for life?

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    • beyou02215

      1 month ago

      Most likely, as they should be.

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      • sad tormented neglected mariners fan

        1 month ago

        If that happens then it would be a sad end for clase

        He already has so many saves at such a young age he has a chance at getting really high up the career saves leaderboards

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        • letitbelowenstein

          1 month ago

          He’s also a cheater. The guy isn’t exactly a role model.

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        • ba$eba||F@n21

          1 month ago

          Do we know that for sure yet? I’d be very hesitant to label Clase as a cheater without indisputable evidence, and has that come out yet? Genuinely asking because I honestly haven’t followed the whole situation with him.

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    • Chrome 8550

      1 month ago

      Yes baseball rules.

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    • Mr. E Team

      1 month ago

      Fan Duel sports network is reporting a lifetime ban is under consideration

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      • Hubert

        1 month ago

        Fan Duel should get a lifetime ban: offering prop bet on whether the first pitch of an inning is a ball or strike?

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        • Gwynning

          1 month ago

          And that, Hubert, is what Ortiz is in possible trouble for… throwing “intentional” balls and winning prop bets on the side. As for Clase, I must be clear- I haven’t heard a lick of what he’s accused of, outside of the “gambling investigation” rigmarole.

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  3. Blah blah blah

    1 month ago

    It will eventually be “extended” to eternity

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    • Oppo nacho

      1 month ago

      Until they die..

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    • King Floch

      1 month ago

      Yeah, that seems to be the way the wind is blowing…

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  4. Mattimeo09

    1 month ago

    What information could they possibly be waiting for?

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    • b.kline

      1 month ago

      Waiting for a translator to take the fall.

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    • Blah blah blah

      1 month ago

      Ortiz and Clase are assuredly done for good, however, MLB wants to uncover how deep this operation goes.

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      • ohyeadam

        1 month ago

        Watch it turn into the sign stealing scandal and everyone gets a free pass lol

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    • solaris602

      1 month ago

      Let’s just imagine for a moment that following what will probably be a 3-4 month investigation (Ohtani’s was a week in which he was not on admin leave) they declare that one or both of them are completely innocent of the charges. What then?

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      • Mlbfan78

        1 month ago

        That’s why they are still getting paid so it’s not a financial loss.

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      • chandlerbing

        1 month ago

        no one give a f about luis ortiz
        ohtani is face of baseball
        maybe the #1 athlete globally
        ofc his “investigation” only took a week lol
        it took 5 minutes
        and he probly guilty bc he degenerate gambler
        these cleveland players just dumb young guys who thought they could score big quick. ortiz makes league min , clase earned 1.9mil last year. they give PED users a 2nd and 3rd chance, give these kids another shot. but first mlb will do its due diligence for the next year. ya know bc gambling is so wrong. btw they just signed an exclusive deal with fanduel. but thats beside the point.

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        • smuzqwpdmx

          1 month ago

          PED users make more money for MLB by being entertaining. Gamblers cost MLB potentially billions of dollars because all that gambling money goes away if people think the games might be fixed. Obviously the thing that’s dramatically more damaging to the sport’s bottom line will get the lifetime ban.

          Clase, however, is (pending confirmation of the gambling investigation) both. He missed 2020 with a PED suspension.

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        • Gwynning

          1 month ago

          So you think Ohtani is guilty… yet excuse it because he is *probly* the number #1 athlete in the world? Dodger fan much?!?

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        • JoeBrady

          1 month ago

          I don’t think he excusing it. I think the point is that Ohtani is possibly the #1 sports star. BB is not going to let the face of the sport take the fall. This is probably the same in every sport and every industry.

          Your company rainmaker has Cart Blanche.

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        • chandlerbing

          1 month ago

          @joe
          Not sure how anyone could have missed my point, but thank you for reiterating it

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        • Gwynning

          1 month ago

          But that’s a terrible point… nobody should have Carte Blanche.

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        • chandlerbing

          1 month ago

          @gwyn
          You still dont get it lol

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        • Gwynning

          1 month ago

          No, I don’t think you do. But carry on! 😎

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        • JoeBrady

          1 month ago

          nobody should have Carte Blanche.
          ============================
          Technically correct, but close enough. Rainmakers get special privileges because they provide special benefits. I doubt the Japan market is worth a $1B, but I wouldn’t bet against a half-billion.

          I know it’s not the morally correct answer, but Ippie gets a year in prison and some spending money, the bookie pays a $1.2M apology check, and lears $15.8M, I think one of the casinos might’ve been clipped for another $1M. Ohtani loses $17M of his own volition and is forced to defer 95% of his salary so that we never have to go thru this again.

          The 99% of the BB fans shouldn’t have to suffer on Ohtani’s account.

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        • Gwynning

          1 month ago

          Well said JB! Cheers fellas 🍻

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  5. chandlerbing

    1 month ago

    this breaking news brought to you by draft kings. sign up today for $500 off your first bet using the promo code *kevinhart

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    • tiger9

      1 month ago

      Honest to God. You have hit the nail right on the head Chandler. Cannot watch a sports event without the sickening gambling crap all over the screens. Parlay this morons.

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      • sad tormented neglected mariners fan

        1 month ago

        Would you like to make a parlay on the over/under for both clase’s and Ortiz’s days under investigation?

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        • Gwynning

          1 month ago

          They’ll break the news on a slow day in the Offseason before the Winter Meetings… I’ll say… do-do-do… carry the one… November 12th? 73 days, bet.

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  6. 69th rounder, 420th HOFer

    1 month ago

    Say what you want about Preller but guys he trades somehow wind up fizzling out either due to production issues or their own devices within 5 years more often than not. Like they have a couple seasons of success but then just drop off the map. Very few become franchise level players for 6 7 8 9 10 years.

    Oh no trades Ty France. Fizzled
    Oh no traded David Bednar. Fizzled
    Oh no traded Clase. Could be facing life time ban
    Oh no Eric Lauer. Fizzled
    Oh no Ryan Weathers. Injured

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    • beyou02215

      1 month ago

      What about James Wood, CJ Abrams, Makenzie Gore, Max Fried, Trea Turner?

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      • 69th rounder, 420th HOFer

        1 month ago

        What about
        Jace Peterson
        Dustin Peterson
        Zach Eflin
        Matt Wisler
        Jordan Paroubeck
        Adrian Martinez
        Efrain Contreras
        Luis Patino
        Blake Hunt
        Mason Thompson
        Luis Urias
        Cal Quantril
        Owen Miller
        Jake Bauers
        Hudson Potts
        Jeisson Rosario
        Austin Allen
        Buddy Reed
        Esteury Ruiz
        Robert Gasser
        Edward Olivares
        Tucupita Marcano
        Gabriel Arias
        Joey Cantillo
        Taylor Trammel
        Victor Acosta
        Hudson Head
        Reginald Preciado
        Ismael Mena
        Joshua Mears
        Samuel Zavala
        Drew Thorpe
        Robert Hassell III
        Max Ferguson
        Franmil Reyes
        Josh Van Meter

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        • JackStrawb

          1 month ago

          When you have to fluff your list with numerous players such as Australian Baseball League hanger-on Buddy Reed, you’ve lost the argument.

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    • Yoda

      1 month ago

      Bednar and Lauer did not fizzle. Maybe Lauer for one season but been a 2 WAR player and Bednar has been a very good closer minus one horrendous season with two all star nods. James Wood, Abram’s, and Gore for Soto wasn’t great. He got a good return for Soto but could have Abram’s at short for next to nothing but went out and signed Xander with a massive overpay.

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      • 69th rounder, 420th HOFer

        1 month ago

        They fizzled out.

        Bednar went from elite closer to set up man in less than 1 season. Being removed from your closer role by your own team prior to being traded means you fizzled out

        Lauer had 2 good seasons turned into a pumpkin and is having an ok season worse peripherals. Going from potential ace to back end starter you fizzled out

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        • Brick House Coffee Tables Inc

          1 month ago

          Your definition of “fizzled” is a little severe. If someone ends up in a top-15 role on a team (9 position players, 5 starters, 1 closer) for a couple of years of regular appearances, that’s not “fizzled.”

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        • JoeBrady

          1 month ago

          Bednar is the closer for the Yankees last I looked.

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        • 69th rounder, 420th HOFer

          1 month ago

          Listed closer is Devin Williams.

          Hes also been used less in high leverage situations every year since he posted 39 saves in 2023.

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        • JoeBrady

          1 month ago

          Aaron Boone is listing the NYY closer? And Williams has only 1 save since the trade, and that’s only because Bednar blew the initial save in the 9th.

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      • 69th rounder, 420th HOFer

        1 month ago

        He fizzled out of the closer role

        He’s been used in less and less high leverage situations

        2023 39 saves 51 high leverage situations
        2024 23 saves? 35 high leverage situations
        2025 20 saves 30 high leverage

        He’s being used more in medium and lower leverage situations. While effective and he’s posting results celebrating a guy who once looked like an elite shut down closer and now he’s a 2 or more runs ahead or 2 or more runs below relief guy is definitely fizzling out.

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      • Brick House Coffee Tables Inc

        1 month ago

        Miguel Cabrera fizzled out as well. Maybe the Tigers shouldn’t have acquired him.

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    • sad tormented neglected mariners fan

      1 month ago

      First off bednar and lauer are good players right now, and second how is a GM supposed to predict clase as not only a future closer but one that gets into a gambling investigation at 27

      Last time I checked Preller is not in touch with Doctor Strange

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    • JoeBrady

      1 month ago

      Just so you know, Bednar’s been one one of the best closers in BB. How does one not know that?

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      • 69th rounder, 420th HOFer

        1 month ago

        “Best” in a set up role since being traded to Yankees. How do you not know that

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        • JoeBrady

          1 month ago

          Bednar is the closer. Three saves this month and no one else has more than one. Do some research.

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    • straightuphonestguy

      1 month ago

      Pretty sure Ty France alone outproduced Austin Nola, not to mention the brilliance of Munoz. Grandal, Turner, Fried, Eflin, Wood, Abrams, Gore..

      “Very few become franchise level players for 6-10 years” is true of almost every player dealt, ever.

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      • 69th rounder, 420th HOFer

        1 month ago

        Sure. His 2 year run was awesome in Seattle and he was released and is a ok platoon bat now. Fizzled out.

        Jace Peterson
        Dustin Peterson
        Zach Eflin
        Matt Wisler
        Jordan Paroubeck
        Adrian Martinez
        Efrain Contreras
        Luis Patino
        Blake Hunt
        Mason Thompson
        Luis Urias
        Cal Quantril
        Owen Miller
        Jake Bauers
        Hudson Potts
        Jeisson Rosario
        Austin Allen
        Buddy Reed
        Esteury Ruiz
        Robert Gasser
        Edward Olivares
        Tucupita Marcano
        Gabriel Arias
        Joey Cantillo
        Taylor Trammel
        Victor Acosta
        Hudson Head
        Reginald Preciado
        Ismael Mena
        Joshua Mears
        Samuel Zavala
        Drew Thorpe
        Robert Hassell III
        Max Ferguson
        Franmil Reyes
        Josh Van Meter

        Say Hi

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        • 69th rounder, 420th HOFer

          1 month ago

          So what you’re saying is you didn’t prove anything I said wrong cause you can’t

          Instead you chose to go the insults route cause you’re threatened by comments that offer more insight and intellectual ability than you could ever dream of.

          Gotcha. Blame your parents for your limited capabilities.

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  7. TroyVan

    1 month ago

    Clase had an absolutely dominant 2024 regular season. He was by far the best closer in baseball then. And then, a monumental collapse happened in the playoffs. In hindsight, I look at that collapse and wonder if it was intentional.

    And, I wonder if MLB is also looking into that as well. That would explain the length of the investigation.

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  8. King Floch

    1 month ago

    It sure is weird how gambling scandals in MLB skyrocketed right around the time MLB climbed into bed with organized gambling.

    I wonder if the two things are related? Nah, couldn’t be…

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    • Luis_Fazenda

      1 month ago

      Yup….they made their bed, and now they gotta lie in it.

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  9. CC Ryder

    1 month ago

    Clase and Ortiz aren’t big enough stars for MLB to ignore any accusations. Isn’t Clase being investigated for only two pitches?

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    • Steinbrenner2728

      1 month ago

      We know how much you hate and bring up Ohtani, CC Ryder/oldguy58, but Emmanuel Clase is a 3-time all star and is a bit of a known player in the league

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  10. Otto371

    1 month ago

    Ohtani took Cris Carter’s advice and had a “fall guy”. Not sure these two took the same advice. Crazy how quick and unceremonious the Ohtani investigation was. He was either incredibly stupid or it was a cover-up and Manfred buried it.

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    • sad tormented neglected mariners fan

      1 month ago

      Public and media will never know but there was no way MLB bans their best most profitable player

      That would be like banning Barry bonds after 2001 because his head got too large and suddenly start cracking down on PEDs

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    • good vibes only

      1 month ago

      Ah yes please do explain how Manfred manipulated the FBI into charging the wrong guy with a mountain of evidence that said otherwise.

      The Clase investigation is completely different, is not being conducted by federal agents with access to basically whatever they want.

      Not everything is a conspiracy.

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      • JackStrawb

        1 month ago

        True, but anything involving the FBI and its century-plus of criminal behavior and political manipulation, probably is.

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  11. Lol Trumpets mad

    1 month ago

    Should’ve had a better interpreter bozos

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  12. CO Guardening

    1 month ago

    If Clase gets banned, which it feels like he will, he kills a trade tree that goes back to Jerry Dybzinski for Pat Tabler on April 1, 1983.

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    • sad tormented neglected mariners fan

      1 month ago

      You’re telling me clase wouldn’t be in Cleveland if this 1983 trade didnt happen

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      • CO Guardening

        1 month ago

        I am.

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        • CO Guardening

          1 month ago

          I can get creepily detailed but I’ll do the abridged version:
          Jerry Dybzinski (famous for his blunder on the basepaths in the 83 playoffs gets traded for Pat Tabler. Pat plays for five years before being traded for Bud Black. Here’s where it gets weird. Bud Black gets traded for some bit parts, one whom is returned for Willie Blair. As all Indians fans know, Blair was part of the Lofton trade. Lofton went to Altanta for Justice and Grissom. Justice plays well but eventually gets traded to New York for a package including Jake Westbrook. Westbrook was traded for Corey Kluber and that’s how Cleveland got Clase. If you wanna get even deeper, Clase doesn’t come to Cleveland if Hideki Irabu stays in Japan, but that’s for another Zach Day.

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  13. whyhayzee

    1 month ago

    Must be nice to be on the Yankees and be able to get away with anything, cheat, commit crimes, whatever you want to do with no consequences. Let the small team players get caught so it looks like MLB is doing their job. Pffft.

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  14. JoeBrady

    1 month ago

    The bookie with $16,000,000 in bookmaking income, probable wire fraud, and numerous other possible charges, won’t even see 6 months in jail. MLB Rumors didn’t even run a story as far as I know.

    I fully endorse the coverup, but if anyone in here did anything like this, you’d be gone for ten years.

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    • Steinbrenner2728

      1 month ago

      He is serving a 57-month prison term with a 4-year supervised release because he pled guilty. I’m not surprised at the slightest you’re one of those people who “endorse the cover up” when you endorse owners, man

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      • JoeBrady

        1 month ago

        I just read somewhere that he got one year. I’ll check it and apologize if necessary.

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      • JoeBrady

        1 month ago

        I Googled “Ohtani bookie” and there are a dozen articles saying one year.

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      • JoeBrady

        1 month ago

        That’s how would go if I were a criminal. Steal $20M, return $16M, and tell the feds I blew $4M on gambling, drugs and women. Everyone goes home happy.

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      • JoeBrady

        1 month ago

        In this case it was $1.6 million out of $17 million in gambling losses just from Ohtani.
        ==============================
        I completely lack his ambition. But his correct play is to tell Manfred “who has more to lose if the goes to trial?”, and Manfred has to make it go away. Of course, the bookie has to serve some time so as not to make it too obvious. So does Ippie. But no one will be seriously punished, no one.

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  15. James Midway

    1 month ago

    Not sure how deep the investigation can go. They don’t have the same powers as police investigators. If they find a crime they would have to report it and then I imagine wait for the police to investigate. At the end of the day I think Draft Kings tells MLB nothing to see here and they are both pitching next season.

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    • cencal

      1 month ago

      Fixing a game or even a proposition bet on a single pitch is a federal crime of fraud. Maybe the FBI is involved and that is contributing to the time.

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  16. william-2

    1 month ago

    Major league baseball has a very real problem when it comes to allegations. The Trevor Bauer thing was a debacle that destroyed a career and looked terrible in the aftermath for the way the league decided to condemn before the investigation and continue to condemn despite the results and what came to light afterwards.

    This seems to be the new trend. They suspend (or insert what they call it at the time) then investigate to see what actually happened. I am not touching guilt or innocence, just the knee jerk reaction to whatever an allegation is from gambling, domestic incidents, or criminal allegations. The punishment should begin at the results, not prior, throughout, and still after. It is like MLB never heard of due process.

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    • Informed Sportsball Discussion

      1 month ago

      @Pads Fans

      Bauer denied any wrongdoing nor having anything to apologize for. Those are not at all the words you are putting into his mouth, which is an admission that he violated MLB’s policies and stating he would continue to do so.

      Due process does not require people found guilty to agree with the verdict, the guilt in this case being violating MLB’s policies (whatever the technical “logic” involved there), not criminal guilt.

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    • Informed Sportsball Discussion

      1 month ago

      @Pads Fans

      I don’t have you muted at this time, as much as you often still tempt me to do so.

      The league never fully revealed the exact reasons behind their disciplinary action. The most we have to go on is a report from the Wall Street Journal, which indicates the league found evidence Bauer had engaged in multiple abusive and non-consensual acts. I’ll spare everyone the exact cite and its sordid details, but the title of the WSJ piece is “The Los Angeles Dodgers Have Unusual Incentives to Retain, Not Release, Trevor Bauer”.

      The key takeaway for anyone not named Pads Fans is the league found the actions to be abusive and non-consensual, both of which Bauer denied. Ergo, he denied any wrongdoing under MLB’s policy. He did not admit wrongdoing nor state he would continue to do commit wrongdoing.

      I grant that it did Bauer no PR favors to not show any contrition, but I doubt it would have made a difference in the end. MLB wanted him blackballed out as much for his persona and opinions as for what he allegedly did. I don’t think him apologizing would have done a lick of good. I am comfortable making those suppositions.

      In any event, he’s gone and not coming back. It ought to be a bigger deal that the league can blackball a player even after serving his suspension, but the rest of the players understandably don’t want targets on their backs for speaking out. Credit to Mookie Betts for doing so.

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    • Informed Sportsball Discussion

      1 month ago

      @Pads Fans

      Logically, how would I have seen what you wrote in the first place if I’d had you muted?

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    • JoeBrady

      1 month ago

      Pads Fans
      That lifestyle, consensual or not, is against the MLB Joint Domestic Violence policy.
      ======================
      That’s exactly my problem with this. It’s not MLB’s place, or your place, or my place, to tell this adult woman what she is and isn’t allowed to engage in.

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    • JoeBrady

      1 month ago

      The explanation that the MLB is a private business doesn’t work for. Cleon Jones had to apologize for having a white womanly in his van. MLB didn’t want Latinos to play, and definitely didn’t want blacks to play. And I’m getting there were a lot of gay players that got passed over for marginal positions.

      MLB shouldn’t be telling women what activity they are allowed to engage in. But just for fun, maybe have Mandred issue a statement saying that MLB thinks S&M is morally repulsive and is banned. See how that works.

      Reply
    • JackStrawb

      1 month ago

      In that they’re like the majority of commenters on this site, who rarely hear of a DV accusation they aren’t eager to accept as a guilty verdict.

      Reply
  17. Bill nd

    1 month ago

    If I were these two I would learn Japanese or Korean, at least if they end up in Mexico, they already speak the language. There must be evidence,the players association is signing off on this.

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    • JackStrawb

      1 month ago

      You know that evidence is not guilt, yes?

      That’s what trials are for–in theory–to decide on the validity of evidence. .

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      • Bill nd

        1 month ago

        In MLB there no trial, it’s the weight of evidence that is part of the standard language in a MLB contract pertaining to personal behavior.

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  18. Sparky1000

    1 month ago

    I wonder what would’ve happened if Clase wasn’t with the Guardians last year? Would they still have reached the playoffs and beat the Tigers?

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  19. Rsox

    1 month ago

    MLB can’t fain the moral high ground while simultaneously have half the league’s games appearing on the Fan Deul network and every game on every network, including their own, giving running betting odds all game long (all day long on MLBNetwork and ESPN)

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  20. LordD99

    1 month ago

    Lifetime ban.

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  21. Pete Rose Remains

    1 month ago

    Emmanuel Clase (wearing a mustache and glasses walks up to the window at the casino sports book): Ah yes, I’d like to wager $5 million dollars that Emmanuel Clase won’t be back to pitch this season, and add a parlay that to a Luis Ortiz won’t be either perfecta.

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  22. IloveMACfootball

    1 month ago

    These “administrative leave” things are BS. Unless he’s guilty, he should playing.

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    • JoeBrady

      1 month ago

      No. If you were suspected of siphoning off company funds, they would not you access to those funds while they were investigating it. No way, no how.

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  23. william-2

    1 month ago

    If you remember from the case, there was another MLB player involved in the framing of Bauer for sexual assault involved with the lying victim.

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