The Dodgers have agreed to terms with Garret Anderson on a minor-league deal that will be worth $550K if he makes the team. The 37-year-old can opt out of his contract if he doesn't find himself on the Dodgers' major league roster by a certain date.
Dylan Hernandez of the LA Times first reported the news and tweeted details; Jon Heyman of SI.com also added contract details (via Twitter).
Anderson, 37, hit .268/.303/.401 in 534 plate appearances with the Braves last season. UZR/150 had him at 16.5 runs below average in left field in 2009 – strictly backup material at this point in his career. The Dodgers signed five other outfielders to minor league deals this winter: Alfredo Amezaga, Brian Barton, Brian Giles, Prentice Redman, and Michael Restovich.
WA-WA-WA-HUH?!?!
Congratulations Dodgers…You Off-Season has become very hard to understand. But this signing I like more than Reed Johnson and Brian Giles.
I’m Really a huge Garret Anderson fan!!!!
But Garret cant hit and cant field… except for being a good clubhouse guy, what the hell will he do for us? Nothing
He can still hit. Certainly an upgrade over Reed Johnson and Brian Giles.
701 OPS and 714 OPS? Um, no he really cant..
I said an upgrade over Giles and Johnson.
Yeah you are right though, his OPS is terrible and his ISO isn’t great but the guy is 37 or 38. He did a well enough job (playing in the field) every day for the Braves last season to not be benched or released.
I just have confidence in Anderson. I think he could easily hit .280 in 300 some odd at bats even if his OPS+ is -1.00.
You can’t deny the undeniable fact that he is an upgrade over several of the other Dodgers minor league signings.
I hope this guy doesn’t manage to get 300 at bats with the Dodger’s..
I hope this guy doesn’t manage to get 300 at bats with the Dodger’s..
while his bat may be better than Johnson, Johnson’s ability to play 3 OF positions, and play them not nearly as bad as Anderson counters what Anderson brings, IMO..
alright ill take that.
alright ill take that.
while his bat may be better than Johnson, Johnson’s ability to play 3 OF positions, and play them not nearly as bad as Anderson counters what Anderson brings, IMO..
I said an upgrade over Giles and Johnson.
Yeah you are right though, his OPS is terrible and his ISO isn’t great but the guy is 37 or 38. He did a well enough job (playing in the field) every day for the Braves last season to not be benched or released.
I just have confidence in Anderson. I think he could easily hit .280 in 300 some odd at bats even if his OPS+ is -1.00.
You can’t deny the undeniable fact that he is an upgrade over several of the other Dodgers minor league signings.
701 OPS and 714 OPS? Um, no he really cant..
He’s a pretty average hitter (I can not stress how close to average he’s been over the past few years), who can not walk. But you know what you’re going to get with him; he really never hits bad… although he is getting old.He can’t run or field though.I like Reed Johnson more, I think he has more of a use. His average is always great against lefties, he can run pretty good (doesn’t steal much), and is a good fielder, with a good arm, at all 3 outfield positions.Brian Giles on the other hand…
I think you’re giving him too much credit, but I will agree about the (small) value that comes with his consistency.
He can still hit. Certainly an upgrade over Reed Johnson and Brian Giles.
But Garret cant hit and cant field… except for being a good clubhouse guy, what the hell will he do for us? Nothing
It’s not hard to understand. We’re looking for a left-handed bench hitter.
Doug Eyechart, Giles, now Anderson who might actually be the best one
So…we have Reed Johnson…Brian Giles…and now Garrett Anderson…all after making sure to resign Repko…
I’m confused.
As a Braves fan, I would saw my arm off before I would ever sign this guy to anything. He dogs it on the bases and on the field. He NEVER hits in the clutch(.230 BA w/ RISP). What is the point? He was pretty good once but is just cashing paychecks?
Why..?
LOL @ GARRET ANDERSON, sorry that’s all i have to
lol @ braves for having him out last year, we really should’ve just given brandon jones a shot over this clown who has no heart
hopefully he doesnt reach majors and if he does nothing more than a pinch hitter
seeing him out on the field is bad news. Have fun Dodgers!
He’s not going to we have Manny, Kemp, and Ethier
Seriously? How does he have no heart?
Seriously? How does he have no heart?
You must have not watched the Braves game, he was lackadaisical out there he didn’t even run hard on some of those balls over his head and he looked like he was just there cashing in the money, plenty of Braves fan felt that way or maybe it was just me but I did not like his attitude at all
As someone who has seen GA play throughout his career I can say that this is a common misconception. Because he doesn’t grunt or show emotion people assume he doesn’t have passion. His teammates will tell you something different though. The guy cares and gives max effort. Unfortunately, he just isn’t any good … injuries and age have robbed him of his talent.
JD Drew is another example.
As someone who has seen GA play throughout his career I can say that this is a common misconception. Because he doesn’t grunt or show emotion people assume he doesn’t have passion. His teammates will tell you something different though. The guy cares and gives max effort. Unfortunately, he just isn’t any good … injuries and age have robbed him of his talent.
“plenty of Braves fan felt that way or maybe it was just me”
“plenty of Braves fan felt that way or maybe it was just me”
You must have not watched the Braves game, he was lackadaisical out there he didn’t even run hard on some of those balls over his head and he looked like he was just there cashing in the money, plenty of Braves fan felt that way or maybe it was just me but I did not like his attitude at all
So who makes the team as backup OFers? Giles or Anderson or Repko or R. Johnson?
Reed and one of Giles, Anderson, or Repko, in that order. I really dont get this..
This is not backup. This is just bad.
Why would they sign him over Jermaine Dye? Hank Blalock?
Dye probably wouldnt be willing to take a MiLB deal or be a bench guy, and can Blalock play the OF?
No for Blalock, and you’re right on Dye, but still… It’s just not worth having Garret Anderson.
I agree… i really dont understand why we made this signing…. I guess it’s just depth
Anderson is another left handed pinch hitter, not sure what he has left in the tank. He is taking up a spot on the roster. I would have liked to see what a guy like Xavier Paul could do in the majors, but there may not be a roster spot.
Paul wasnt going to win the job. Torre and Donnie said that they want him to get regular ABs(ie, starting) because they feel he has the potential to be a starter in the league.
But, as I’ve said, I basically agree with you, I dont know why they did this UNLESS the rumors that Giles is done are true and they wanted to have another lefty option to compete for a job off the bench besides Doug M.
Giles and Anderson both had good careers and I am not sure either of them could hit major league pitching anymore. Paul went through a nasty infection from a small cut on his knee. He is lucky it did not kill him. That is one of the reasons I am rooting for him, plus he Showed in his few at bats last year he may have Big league talent. The Dodgers are going to need a guy to replace manny next year, maybe paul can take over. Anyway it is a minor league contract so we may not see Anderson again.
I agree, I’m rooting for Paul. I really wanna see what he can do. My guess is there will be a competition that includes lambo, Paul, Robinson and any other prospect who breaks out(K Russell?) for the LF job
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Almost every spring training a youngster impresses and goes with the big club. We will see.
The dodgers said the only way he makes he club is as a starter, and, barring injury, that isn’t going to happen( as I’m sure you can guess, they didn’t directly say it, but from Donnie’s comments, that’s what it sounds like
I agree… i really dont understand why we made this signing…. I guess it’s just depth
No for Blalock, and you’re right on Dye, but still… It’s just not worth having Garret Anderson.
Dye probably wouldnt be willing to take a MiLB deal or be a bench guy, and can Blalock play the OF?
This is not backup. This is just bad.
Why would they sign him over Jermaine Dye? Hank Blalock?
Lets just say the Dodgers Outfielders get injured and you have no other choice but to put Garret Anderson in LF .( I know I know it won’t happen ,just sayin)You are gonna wish your Dodgers had the DH rule .His defense is terrible.Good thing its only a minor league deal.
If someone gets hurt and goes on the DL, Xavier Paul will be called up to start. Anderson will not get back to back starts this season, if he is even in the majors, mark my words.
Yeah I know…I’m just saying if you had no other choice but to put Anderson in you would be wishing you had the DH rule.He’s slow as a slug ,his offense is ok I guess.
Oh I know he is horrible in the field. If there is a time when someone gets hurt, someone will be called up and Anderson will remain on the bench…
Oh I know he is horrible in the field. If there is a time when someone gets hurt, someone will be called up and Anderson will remain on the bench…
Yeah I know…I’m just saying if you had no other choice but to put Anderson in you would be wishing you had the DH rule.He’s slow as a slug ,his offense is ok I guess.
Don’t forget our good friend Trayvon Robinson!
I want Robinson to get a full year in the minors to prove that last year was a breakout, not a fluke. He shouldnt be on the MLB team until, at the earliest, September..
Who knows if that team will even be the Dodgers by then. Possible Adrian Gonzalez chip?
Who knows if that team will even be the Dodgers by then. Possible Adrian Gonzalez chip?
I want Robinson to get a full year in the minors to prove that last year was a breakout, not a fluke. He shouldnt be on the MLB team until, at the earliest, September..
Don’t forget our good friend Trayvon Robinson!
If someone gets hurt and goes on the DL, Xavier Paul will be called up to start. Anderson will not get back to back starts this season, if he is even in the majors, mark my words.
We already signed Reed Johnson and Brian Giles and have had Jason Repko for forever, just really don’t get this signing..
We already signed Reed Johnson and Brian Giles and have had Jason Repko for forever, just really don’t get this signing..
Not to mention Xavier Paul, forgot him, thanks lakersdodgers4life
Xavier Paul and Repko should both get good looks in Spring Training.Paul appears to have good tools and personally I think he could be a candidate for the number 4 outfielder if given an opportunity to prove himself. Of course that’s not going to happen but I wish we would quit dinking around with players who are done. Look at it this way every inning that these washed up guys get in spring training costs the opportunity to give players like Paul and Repko the opportunity display their talents.They do have talent and the potential to make this team, also, the more their talents are displayed the more potential they have for future trade value (assuming that Frank would ever allow a trade).
The Dodgers came out and said that Paul wont be the 4th OF because they want him to get playing time, somewhere. They feel he has the potential to be an everyday starter and they dont want him waste a yr sitting on the bench, similar to DeWitt…
Regarding Repko… I have no idea what they are doing with him
Perhaps they just fear Repko will turn into the next Jayson Werth if they let him go… personally, I don’t understand why we keep him if he’s not going to get a shot as 4th outfielder. That’s probably all he’ll ever be good for. He’s fine defensively, but his contact skills are abysmal.
I don’t think that’s the thought because Repko simply doesn’t have the same talent Werth had. Werth had all the talent you want, but was hurt for years and wasn’t getting any better. I wonder if it’s more Repko not wanting to leave the team rather than vice versa(he has been here for 10 years…)
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Not a chance in hell that he makes the big roster now. Ughhh.
Not to mention Xavier Paul, forgot him, thanks lakersdodgers4life
Lets just say the Dodgers Outfielders get injured and you have no other choice but to put Garret Anderson in LF .( I know I know it won’t happen ,just sayin)You are gonna wish your Dodgers had the DH rule .His defense is terrible.Good thing its only a minor league deal.
I hope the Dodgers have a “Hover-Round” for Garret to roam the outfield.
I hope the Dodgers have a “Hover-Round” for Garret to roam the outfield.
The Dodgers need a left-handed hitter off the bench who doesn’t have an arthritic shoulder (Doug M.) or knees ( B. Giles). Ned Colletti’s MO is to stockpile talent because as he said today, “it’s not a baseball month, it’s a baseball season”. We were going to carry five outfielders anyway because Manny needs days off without compromising the bench. This almost assuredly means we will carry 12 pitchers, 5 outfielders (think Manny, Ethier, Kemp, Reed Johnson and Anderson), and 6 infielders and 2 catchers. Because our infield options can’t REALLY play the outfield, we are forced to carry more depth there. The Anderson signing is in no way meant to provide outfield depth, but rather, it provides bench depth for days Reed Johnson plays the field.
Blake is adequate in LF. He played plenty of OF in Cleveland. 2005-2006 he was a full-time RFer, don’t think he’d have a problem with LF.
Once Amazega gets healthy he’ll also eliminate the need for a 5th OFer.
The Dodgers need a left-handed hitter off the bench who doesn’t have an arthritic shoulder (Doug M.) or knees ( B. Giles). Ned Colletti’s MO is to stockpile talent because as he said today, “it’s not a baseball month, it’s a baseball season”. We were going to carry five outfielders anyway because Manny needs days off without compromising the bench. This almost assuredly means we will carry 12 pitchers, 5 outfielders (think Manny, Ethier, Kemp, Reed Johnson and Anderson), and 6 infielders and 2 catchers. Because our infield options can’t REALLY play the outfield, we are forced to carry more depth there. The Anderson signing is in no way meant to provide outfield depth, but rather, it provides bench depth for days Reed Johnson plays the field.
Ned sucks.
McCourt sucks, he’s the one restricting how much Colletti can spend
McCourt sucks, he’s the one restricting how much Colletti can spend
Ned sucks.
Just a minor league deal. Really, people, get over it.
Just a minor league deal. Really, people, get over it.
minor league eal guys….minor league deal…just have to see if he makes the team 1st & then we can complain
minor league eal guys….minor league deal…just have to see if he makes the team 1st & then we can complain
Money is still being spent here. Half a mil here, half a mil there. It all adds up. This is just more money being wasted. There are other, younger options, who deserve a chance.
No its not. THat’s the thing with these minor league deals. It’s non guaranteed. If he sucks in spring training we cut him and lose nothing (or next to nothing.) Zero risk.
Next to nothing? Garrett Anderson will get paid something. It may not be a lot of money but he’ll get something reguardless of him making the team or not.
He’ll get paid a a month’s worth of a minor league salary for showing up to spring training. We can then cut him, and pay him nothing, send him to the minors, and continue to pay a minor league salary, or send him to the big club and pay him 6 figures.
Like I said, right now we’re on the hook for next to nothing. If it was any more than that you would never see small market clubs hand out non-roster invitations.
He’ll get paid a a month’s worth of a minor league salary for showing up to spring training. We can then cut him, and pay him nothing, send him to the minors, and continue to pay a minor league salary, or send him to the big club and pay him 6 figures.
Like I said, right now we’re on the hook for next to nothing. If it was any more than that you would never see small market clubs hand out non-roster invitations.
Next to nothing? Garrett Anderson will get paid something. It may not be a lot of money but he’ll get something reguardless of him making the team or not.
No its not. THat’s the thing with these minor league deals. It’s non guaranteed. If he sucks in spring training we cut him and lose nothing (or next to nothing.) Zero risk.
This is exactly what I think when people post ”its just a minor league deal, get over it.” For having limited spending this year we seem to make a lot of unecessary minor league signings
I assure you, the Dodgers have made no more minor league deals this year than usual, it just seems that way because of the lack of major league deals. And again, minor league deals cost the team viturally nothing unless the guy makes the big club. If he can’t cut it in spring training, we let him go and lose nothing.
I assure you, the Dodgers have made no more minor league deals this year than usual, it just seems that way because of the lack of major league deals. And again, minor league deals cost the team viturally nothing unless the guy makes the big club. If he can’t cut it in spring training, we let him go and lose nothing.
This is exactly what I think when people post ”its just a minor league deal, get over it.” For having limited spending this year we seem to make a lot of unecessary minor league signings
Money is still being spent here. Half a mil here, half a mil there. It all adds up. This is just more money being wasted. There are other, younger options, who deserve a chance.
I hope the Dodgers have a Hover-Round for Garret to patrol the outfield.
Does this really deserve to be posted twice?
Does this really deserve to be posted twice?
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Really not a horrible guy to have as a backup. If I remember correctly he did pretty well as a PH when put into that role by the Braves last year. So a decent bench bat, just keep him out of the OF.
Really not a horrible guy to have as a backup. If I remember correctly he did pretty well as a PH when put into that role by the Braves last year. So a decent bench bat, just keep him out of the OF.
The Dodgers should trade Matt Kemp, Clayton Kershaw and Kevin Brown for Rusty Greer and John VanderWal. That’s the ticket.
And then cut Manny Ramierez. Just cut him.
The Dodgers should trade Matt Kemp, Clayton Kershaw and Kevin Brown for Rusty Greer and John VanderWal. That’s the ticket.
And then cut Manny Ramierez. Just cut him.
Well Brian Giles’ stay with LA is officially longer than Marcus’ quick visit to the parking lot… but now pretty much over. Still think DouggieM is the guy.
Well Brian Giles’ stay with LA is officially longer than Marcus’ quick visit to the parking lot… but now pretty much over. Still think DouggieM is the guy.
Biggest reason for having these guys in on invites: None of them have ever taken out any teams’ starting shortstop for the season in the third week of spring training.
Biggest reason for having these guys in on invites: None of them have ever taken out any teams’ starting shortstop for the season in the third week of spring training.
“The 37-year-old can opt out of his contract if he doesn’t find himself on the Dodgers’ major league roster by a certain date.”
Can’t any player opt out of his contract at any time he wishes?
No, not any player can opt out of his contract. That is why you have a contract to begin with, otherwise a player having a good year will “opt out” and demand more money.
No, players can opt out if they decided to. There’s consequences and penalties for doing so, but they can do it.
“The 37-year-old can opt out of his contract if he doesn’t find himself on the Dodgers’ major league roster by a certain date.”
Can’t any player opt out of his contract at any time he wishes?
HUGE pick up for the Dodgers
Tyler41 – I’d be worried more about Madison Bumgarner’s 87 mph fastball he was lobbing up there yesterday. Or we could talk about those great Giants’ moves this offseason: Byung-Hyun Kim, Guillermo Mota, Todd Wellemeyer, etc.
This is an inconsequential signing. Reed Johnson is the #4 OF and Xavier Paul is injury insurance. Garrett Anderson, in the unlikely event he actually makes the team, is a LH PH. Pretty simple.
I looked for a piece that talked about Bumgarner throwin 87 couldn’t find one.. not sure where you got that but I did see Lincecum was only throwin 91.. these guys have been to camp for what two weeks why would I be worried? Bumgarner threw 2 scoreless innings and he’s our version of Clayton Kershaw. The only difference is he’s our 5 starter not our 1 or 2.. you know I gotta give you LA fans a rough time lets face it you’ve had a terrible offseason which I understand why but the fact is I can’t remember the Dodgers being this quiet in free agency in a long time
It was on the Rotowire site and link was to Henry Schulman’s Twitter account 87-89 mph actually…yeah still early, but he was way down over the second half of 2009 as well. Not trying to talk smack, but I’d be worried. Please don’t compare him to Clayton Kershaw just yet. Not even close.
People have been reporting since the end of last season that Bumgarner’s velocity has been down by a ton, and I haven’t seen anything talking about him regaining his speed. It might be different now that Spring Training has started, though.
It has been a tough off-season, but with the team the Dodgers already had in place, it didn’t need to be a huge off-season, luckily.
no doubt, the Dodgers will be fine
it was a series of tweets, and as vtadave said, it was Henry Schulman reporting.. I believe there are graphs on fangrapghs showing his velocity sitting in the 87-90 range for the couple innings he threw…
Bumgarner and Kershaw… AHAHA. Im sorry, but not even close. Kershaw has been in the mid 90s for most of his career and has always had the curve. Bumgarner’s best pitch was the FB and now it is in the high 80s and his slider/curve isnt great. He was dominating on the FB and now it is gone… what will he dominate on? Kershaw was closer to a complete project coming out of HS than Bumgarner is now…
If you get an email, it was originally misplace in a response to another one of your points.
Here are the links about Bumgarner’s velocity:
“PITCHf/x had Bumgarner at 88.9 mph avg on 11 FB in his first inn and 88.1 on 8 FB in his 2nd inn, vs ’09 MLB avg of 89.2”
link to twitter.com
And “@keithlaw Bumgarner was 87-88 in his second inning today.”
link to twitter.com
There are either problems or he was never in the mid 90s…
yea i guess we cant expect a 20 year old who just completed his first year full season in a major league system to come up in september and lose mph on his fastball? and he’s supposed to come out his first start in spring throwin in the mid 90s? what are you guys saying Lincecum was throwin aroun 91 so is that what I should expect out of him when the opener is here? Obviously not. You can look into it whichever way you want the fact is if Bumgarner is what he’s supposed to be the Dodgers and the rest of MLB is in for a struggle with Lincecum, Cain, and Bumgarner anchoring our rotation.. and why not compare Bumgarner to Kershaw? All I ever heard when Kershaw was coming up was how great he was supposed to be, I even heard he was gonna be the Dodgers Lincecum, now things are turned around and I’m not supposed to say anything? I guess Baseball America and every other MiLB rating system must be way off with this guy…
excuse me second full year in a system
I always get concerned when pitchers lose velocity. It is understandable that he loses velocity at the end of the year because his arm tired. However the fact that he still pitching means he wasn’t hurt. Then he comes in his first ST game and is pitching like he didn’t just have 6 months off… If he remains there all ST, there is a LOT to be worried about.
No one is worried about lincecum because he didn’t lose velocity at the end of the year…
If Bumgarner finds velocity and refines his 2ndary pitches, then yea, the MLB are going to face a lot of pitching. However at this point, I’m not worried.
Why not compare kershaw and Bumgarner? Kershaw sat in the mid 90s for most of his MiLB career and never had velocity problems. He also has had a killer curve from the get go, something Bumgarner doesn’t have. And kershaw was compared to Lincecum because they were drafted nearly next to each other and have the potential to dominate anyone in the majors
Most, if not all, scouts said that Bumgarner will be great if he is in the mid 90s not high 80s. He will not be the ace you seem to think he will be at 87. For your sake, you better hope he gets plenty of time in the minors because,IMO, he isn’t nearly ready to be in the majors the whole year
fair enough there arent many pitchers in baseball who can sit at 87 and make a long career out of it.. Bumgarner has aruably had better minor league stats then Kershaw. Kershaw, in 3 minor league seasons, went 12-10 2.49 ERA 276 k’s in 220.1 innings (damn) 1.12 whip 6.4 hits/9 0.4 HR/9 3.7 BB/9 and 11.3 k’s/9 vs. Bumgarners (2 seasons) 27-5 record 1.65 ERA 256 k’s in 273 innings .974 WHIP 7.0 hits/9 .3 HR/9 1.8 BB/9 and 8.4 k’s/9.. I’d say thats comparable.. and yea Molina was the second best hitter on the team last year so getting him and Uribe back plus seeing what Freddy Sanchez can do for a whole year including Huff and DeRosa.. without a doubt thats an upgrade for the offense.. If bumgarner is still throwin 87 by the time the season starts then I will be worried
I should start by saying that I don’t think Bumgarner is a bad prospect, as you posted, his stats are really similar to Kershaws. However, without the velocity I can’t see him being able to succeed with the big boys, and I think you agree. One thing I noticed is that Bumgarner had a low walk rate but didn’t have a great K rate. Reading more and more prospect sites Ive noticed a trend that low walks and low Ks means the pitcher is relying on the hitter to chase his pitches and get weak grounders and flyballs. However, that strategy usually doesn’t work long in the majors. The hitters are too patient. Bumgarner having to go into the zone more may limit his productivness…
And your comment about Molina was my point. When your second Best hitter is Bengie Molina you aren’t going to score runs. And DeRosa and Huff won’t help much… You need another source of power besides Sandoval and Molina. Unless you have Joe Mauer catching, your team shouldn’t rely on the catcher to be a big power source
HUGE pick up for the Dodgers
he “held his own” against lefties with a .714 OPS but didn’t against righties with a .701 OPS? Boo hoo, what’s that? Like 4 more walks?
he “held his own” against lefties with a .714 OPS but didn’t against righties with a .701 OPS? Boo hoo, what’s that? Like 4 more walks?
Well it seems like the Dodgers are covering there bases should Manny decide to be Manny (in Boston). He has already said he is not here next year so why should he play????? I hope it is not the case and it is Manny we are talking about……………………..
I love GA, but what the hell?!?!
Just a question and for once I’m honestly not tryin to rag on LA.. but is anyone worried with what we saw in his last year of Boston that Manny might try to do that again in LA? The guy seems happy to me in LA but it worries me about when it comes to drafting him in fantasy baseball lol.. just a little ominous that he shows up day 1 sayin this is it in LA
He has no power to demand a trade. If he goes nutty hes done for good.
Ty, let me rap at ya. I don’t think this a Manny being Manny trick or hijink. It’s not like he sought some reporter in the Camelback locker room just to say, “I won’t be here next year.” He was asked about his future in baseball after his contract is up, and he simply said he didn’t know where he’d be, but he more than likely won’t be with the Dodgers. I really don’t know how this became a huge issue, because most fans I know agree with me that we already knew that. None of his teammates seemed to mind it either. I really don’t get why people try to make Manny seem so bad. I honestly credit both him and Casey Blake for really helping turn this team around, not just for their skills playing, but for helping the younger guys to mature. I don’t know who taught our young guys how to play baseball, but I think Manny and Casey have taught them how to play everyday, and how to love every minute of it.
No question Manny has been a great influence in that clubhouse and the stuff Blake has done for that team, on and off the field, has been underated no doubt. It works because Manny is just like one of the kids, I’ve always loved Manny and its been depressing seeing him in LA but I respect the hell out of the guy and I’d agree he’s done more for LA in a year and a half then I’ve seen a guy do for a team in a while.
No I am worried how a 38 year old man can produce on a major league level without steroids. Prior to the steroid era 38 year old players always declined with age. Then Barry Bonds shows up with a head the size of Secratariat and he is pulling everything into the ocean.
maybe I read that wrong and your not even tryin to rip on Barry, well you are, but also on Manny..? Barry Bonds wasn’t the first baseball player to use steriods and he won’t be the last..i still stand by what i said even if i over reacted. Barry Bonds was a top 10 player of all time without roids and with them it turned him into arguably the greatest ever
You can think whatever you want so do not sweat it. But he is a cheat, he took the money and the fame. At least we will not see him and his horse size head in the hall of fame.
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Except Anderson won’t be making $18.1 million per season.
he’s on the 40 man to protect him from the rule 5 draft…
Burn!
your pitching staff looks like our offense.. Anderson is gonna have a tough enough time hittin the ball out of Dodger stadium the dude would hit 5 bombs playin at AT&T.. good luck theres a reason the Giants didnt give him $550 K
WHAT?! Oh good come back though.
Tyler – the Dodgers pitching staff led all of baseball last year in team ERA. Pretty sure the Giants offense wasn’t quite as proficient. Are you saying the loss of Jon Garland was enough to push the Dodgers pitching towards the depths of the league?
Lol, that’s a very dumb comment. The Dodgers staff is the same as last season, minus Randy Wolf. The Dodgers had one of the top 3 NL staffs last year. Only seriously ignorant people would think they would suck in 2010 because the Dodgers don’t have the almighty Randy Wolf anymore.
I’m saying the loss of Jon Garland and more importantly Randy Wolf will considerably hurt the Dodgers pitching staff yes. Last year I cant talk, cant say a word, but this offseason the Giants made upgrades for the offense while the Dodgers lost two considerable pieces of the starting staff and did nothing to fill them
Randy Wolf hurts, and that’s all the fault of the ownership. Still, Padilla for a full season COULD approximate those numbers given his performance last year and Billingsley/Kershaw could easily take a step forward. Not all guarantees I know, but as you know, there are no guarantees when it comes to SP.
As for the Giants’ big upgrades – are you really saying Aubrey Huff and Mark DeRosa are going to make a big difference? I’m not going to say they were awful signings by any means, but the Giants had the worst OPS in baseball last year and Huff and DeRosa aren’t exactly coming off monster seasons.
By the way, thanks for the intelligent debate. Nice.
Garland was a considerable piece of the rotation? You mean the guy who had 5 starts for the Dodgers and wasn’t on the playoff roster? That same John Garland? If that’s the case then what the hell are the Giants gonna do without Brad Penny? If John Garland was so important to the Dodgers i have no clue what the Giants might do without Brad Penny.
Jon Garland was .500 for us in 6 starts against the Pirates (2), Diamondbacks (2), Padres and Giants. Basically the 5 games against the 3 worst teams in the NL last season, plus one game against S.F.
Hardly a loss.
are derosa and huff really considered upgrades? kershaw is gonna be a stud this year and hopefully billlingsley returns to form. it’ll be like we never lost wolf. and btw does garland’s absence really hurt us? he wasn’t even in our playoff roster.
I think Huff and DeRosa will make a difference, as for a big one I doubt it. But, if they can help turn just a quarter of all those 2-1, 3-2 losses into wins that will be huge. Padilla should easily make up for Garland and the way he pitched last year should aproach Wolf’s production. Honestly I think DeRosa could be a mistake, Huff isn’t much risk with one year and 3 mil. They are upgrades though for sure. Theres no reason to not think Billingsly wont bounce back I’m sure he will. Kershaw should only get better
yea, he had been a mediocre prospect until last year, when he broke out. If he has a year like last, he will have done his job. I know I am excited about his potential…
wait, then where is your upgrade and our downgrade? You said that your two newest pieces wont help much and you said our main loss will probably be filled by Padilla…
and I’m just tryin to have a civil conversation. For the rest of baseball adding DeRosa and Huff would be nothin special. For the Giants its huge especially given that we resigned Molina.. Yea if Padilla pitches like he did for you for an entire season he’d be better then wolf, obviously thats not happening. If you dont think your staff down graded this year then thats your problem and we’ll just wait to see how far Kershaw, Billingsly, and Padilla takes LA. Why are you even talkin about Bumgarner you should probably worry about why Billingsly dropped off so much last year.
But DeRosa and Huff don’t solve your problems… Getting on base and hitting for power. Molina? Haha.
Don’t forget Kuroda, he’ll be way more important than Padilla. The freak, non arm related injuries are hopefully past him and he will go back to being one of the best #3s in baseball.
And everyone knows what happened to Billz, the offseason leg surgery affected his training routine. Therefore, his hammys were not nearly as strong as they should have been. The leg got reaggrivated mid season, but he continued to pitch. As the game went on, he’d change his delivery slightly because his hammy was hurting. This caused a loss of control and an imploding. An offseason to rest and get strong is exactly what he needed.