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Dan Haren Rumors: Sunday

By Luke Adams 2 | July 25, 2010 at 1:52pm CDT

The Diamondbacks' asking price for Dan Haren still exceeds what most teams are willing to offer, as the Yankees and Tigers have balked at deals centered around Joba Chamberlain and Jacob Turner respectively. However, despite being on Haren's no-trade list, the Tigers are still in play since the right-hander is expected to strongly consider playing anywhere he has a chance to win. Those were the highlights of yesterday's Haren rumors, so let's move on to today's. Any new updates will show up at the top of the page throughout the day….

  • SI's Jon Heyman tweets that in addition to Chamberlain, the Yankees are hesitant to part with pitchers Hector Noesi and Dellin Betances in a potential Haren trade.
  • John Harper of the New York Daily News writes that the Yankees are under no pressure to trade for Haren and that any deal they make will be on their own terms. ESPN.com's Buster Olney (Insider required) agrees with Harper's assessment, noting that the Yanks would take on Haren's salary and give up "B-plus prospects" in a trade, but that they won't move their best prospects.
  • If the Yankees were to acquire Haren, it would compromise their chances of signing Cliff Lee this winter, says Joel Sherman of the New York Post. Sherman also hears that the D'Backs would like to get their payroll down to about $60MM for 2011, further motivating them to move Haren now.
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  1. jdub220

    15 years ago

    I don’t see anything in the Sherman article about the D’backs reducing payroll to 60MM…

    Reply
    • Luke Adams

      15 years ago

      It’s on the second page, about halfway down.

      Reply
      • jdub220

        15 years ago

        Ah, thanks. I didn’t see that there was a second page.

        Reply
  2. Adam R

    15 years ago

    The Tigers are falling apart. I don’t think he’ll go there.

    Reply
  3. BaseballFanatic0707

    15 years ago

    I understand Joba’s peripherals show he’s been better than advertised….But if the D’Backs want a deal centered around him…what’s the delay? We have starters in the minors we can convert to relievers. We can call up Melancon. I can’t imagine that it’s the other prospects the D’Backs want in a deal that’s making the Yanks scoff, since there is no indication of that.

    Also, big deal if the Yanks compromise their chances of signing Cliff Lee in the offseason. Haren certainly isn’t as good as Cliff Lee, but if Lee commands top dollar, that’s about 6 million saved for a pitcher of high calibur, and he wouldn’t have to have the pressure of being the number 1 guy here.

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    • Leafsfan8121

      15 years ago

      The Yanks don’t have to rush it and cave though they’ve got leverage.

      Reply
      • BaseballFanatic0707

        15 years ago

        My point is is that it really isn’t caving. I’m just of the belief that relievers are a trade-able commodity (excluding the big time closers and can’t miss starters that break in as relievers to begin with, such as Wainwright), and if the D’backs want Joba, give them Joba.

        Now, if they were asking for Montero, which would never happen, I’d be agreeing with you.

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        • Leafsfan8121

          15 years ago

          ok but both sides are negotiated it falls to the dbacks if they wanna trade him before tuesday. In a poker game that is baseball the Yanks won’t get played again a la Cliff Lee

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          • BaseballFanatic0707

            15 years ago

            Oh definitely, it’s on the D’Backs to make a decision on what to do and ask for.

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            • Leafsfan8121

              15 years ago

              I don’t see the Tigers dealing for him because of the injuries to Magglio and Guillen.

              Reply
              • BaseballFanatic0707

                15 years ago

                Possibly not. The Tigers are in very bad shape down Mags. They’d probably need to go get an outfielder first before they make a move for a pitcher.

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                • Leafsfan8121

                  15 years ago

                  Honestly i don’t see Werth going to Detroit but i’ve been proven wrong before.

                  Reply
    • Steve Shoup

      15 years ago

      I agree so what it takes you out of the Lee sweepstakes, you already have Sabathia at the top of the rotation, and Hughes likely to join him. Haren might not be on Lee’s level but he will cost between $6-8 million less over the next couple of seasons and won’t be on the hook for as many years. New York can use that money to get some solid bullpen arms to be in front of Rivera.

      Also it makes the Yankees better this season, and while the Yanks might still be able to finish in first or at no worst get the wild card without him, they still might not be able to make it/win the world series unless Burnett/Vazquez figure it out. Also i’m just guessing a few of the other top teams will make moves so the Yankees might want to answer.

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      • Dax

        15 years ago

        you dont need burnett or Vazquez to win a championship, especially if they get haren. last year they won with a 3 man rotation in the playoffs. this year it could potentially be c.c haren pettite. and with hughes as either the fourth starter for the playoffs or he could be used as a set up man

        Reply
  4. Michael Fierman

    15 years ago

    Heilman? !? are you kidding?

    Reply
  5. Ferrariman

    15 years ago

    im calling it. Haren gets dealt today to the…errr….umm…..TBD.

    dbacks seriously can’t be asking more for haren than the Astros are for Oswalt.

    Reply
    • jdub220

      15 years ago

      Why not? He’s younger, cheaper, under control for longer, just as good, and has proven himself in the AL.

      Reply
  6. Taskmaster75

    15 years ago

    Hmmm, I read this as the Yankees wanted to get below a 60m payroll….Scratched my head for a second there….

    Be a HELL of a fire sale if that were to occur :).

    Reply
    • jdub220

      15 years ago

      And a HELL of a riot in New York, too.

      Reply
      • Guest

        15 years ago

        The Yankee fans wouldn’t understand it. They would ask if they won the World Series yet.

        Reply
  7. RBIBaseball

    15 years ago

    This from Heyman: Yanks don’t want to include Noesi or Bentances in a deal either.

    Reply
  8. Guest

    15 years ago

    Why do teams want Haren? He’s so overrated and playing in NY will only make him worse.

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    • Dylan

      15 years ago

      While I agree playing in New York will make him worse (HRs), I do not see how he is overrated…

      Reply
    • Z Root of All Evil

      15 years ago

      He has a career FIP of 3.69 which is extremely close to his career ERA and xFIP. He’s consistently a 4-plus win pitcher. I’d love for the Twins to get him. I’ll puke if they send him to the Yankees for a bunch of mid level prospects.

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    • jdub220

      15 years ago

      Yeah, that guy who’s been top 3 in WAR the last two years is SO overrated…

      Reply
      • Guest

        15 years ago

        That was the last two years and this is this year. 4.60 ERA and leads the league in Hits given up (10.3 H/9)

        Arizona is asking for prospects as if he’s Cliff Lee.

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        • Z Root of All Evil

          15 years ago

          His xFIP is over a full run less than his ERA which says to me that he’s been unlucky this year. His BABIP is .350, which is higher than his career norms & well over the MLB average, and his HR/FB % is higher than averate this year. Despite that, his other peripherals are pretty much in line with his career numbers.

          As good as Lee is, you only got him for half a season plus the playoffs. You get Haren through 2012 with an option for 2013 at a bargain of a salary for a top 15 starter in baseball. When the Twins were in the Lee derby, I said the whole time I’d much much much rather trade a huge pile of prospects for Haren than Cliff.

          He’s an excellent pitcher.

          Reply
      • Guest

        15 years ago

        and he’s a first half pitcher, teams need a second half pitcher now.

        Reply

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