The latest from Yahoo's Jeff Passan…
- The Rays "won't go near" Prince Fielder due to a potential $16MM salary in 2011, says one Passan source. So far any Rays-Fielder connection has been purely speculative, though the team has a history of chasing big names at the trade deadline. To play devil's advocate to Passan, they could theoretically acquire Fielder now and trade him again in the offseason.
- Passan feels that the White Sox and Giants could match up on a Fielder trade, or the Brewers could wait until the offseason to trade their slugger.
- The Royals' steep asking price for David DeJesus: "a major league-ready prospect, along with at least one midlevel prospect or a pair of lower-level players." Another take on their asking price tweeted by Dan Hayes of the North County Times: an "ML-ready pitcher and a top prospect."
- Passan wonders if the Yankees will pursue Roy Oswalt, as they're "about the only team that could fit the $23 million left in his contract for the next year and a half onto their budget." Indeed, ESPN's Buster Olney tweeted today that the Yanks "have an advantage in that they're one of the few teams willing to take on payroll." We'll have to see whether the Yankees actually inquire on Oswalt and/or Ted Lilly in the coming days.
I think the yankees are better off getting Myers. They won’t have to worry about getting stuck with a contract after the end of the year. However, you also look at this way, with Myers the ‘stros will be able to get back a few good prospects with him, where as if they traded Oswalt it would most likely be for salary dump and won’t effect the yankee farm system that bad. Will see…
Myers also has bullpen experience which will be good for when Andy gets back.
IF tampa trades for Fielder before the deadline, and then attempt to trade him after the season to try and avoid the big salary AND Scott Boras… Would teams really offer up more than what Tampa gave up for him? for 1/2 year less and a big payday coming? HYPOTHETICALLY… Hellickson and a couple prospects to Milwaukee for Fielder, in the summer Tampa starts shopping Fielder… Who would give up a top prospect and a couple more for less time with Fielder, knowing they need to give him a big payday? Doesnt really make sense to me… IF tampa feels like they need Fielder, they need to go in expecting to sign him long term, because their return will surely be less if they try and dump him in the offseason…
look at the cliff lee trades. The mariners got more in return than they gave up for him, a half season later.
Comparing Fielder and Lee is kinda funny… Top pitcher who has earned the chance to make his money… and Prince Fielder who has an inflated value of himself. ALSO, different situation… Philly was going after Halladay and seemed to just want to rid themselves of Lee and fill in with Halladay… Milwaukee doesnt have a legit backup to take Fielder’s spot… The Mariners did get more than they gave up… mostly because Texas felt they could part with Smoak.. the other 3 prospects are mediocre at best that Seattle got… If Texas feels they need to keep Smoak and try to put Chris Davis in that trade… it doesnt go through…
Also note that the Rangers probably know they can’t re-sign him (the Yankees will probably come after him in the off-season out of spite). Kind of makes all this talk of not being able to re-sign Fielder by whatever team might be trading for him kind of silly.
Way too steep for DeJesus. They will never get that, so they might want to lower the price just to get rid of him. One or maybe even two B prospects should be enough.
Are you serious? He is batting over .320 with an OBA of close to .390, which aren’t far off his career numbers. He can play gold glove caliber defense in the corner OF spots and passable CF. He is only owed like 4.5 million for the entire year and has an affordable 6 million dollar club option for next year. He has already accumulated a WAR of 3.2, which translates to about 15 million dollars in value.
And you think he is only worth two B prospects? Wake up.
I’m hoping you are either kidding or exaggerating. As a Sox fan I would personally make that deal. A week or so ago I said they wanted too much, but this sounds like that may have come down a bit, and I also thought about it and it could make sense, Dejesus has always been a good defender and an – at least – league average hitter, and can play all tree outfield spots. I think it would make sense to trade for him instead of trying to make it through the season with an injured Cameron. Then have Cameron get the surgery to repair his torn stomach muscles which would end his season, then when (if?) Ells comes back move Dejesus to left and Ells in center. If Ells doesn’t come back Dejesus in center with the patchwork guys in left is better than an injured Cameron in center with those guys. I’m not really up on the Royals needs but I could see a Reddick, Navarro package for him, or something along those lines. I really don’t see Reddick fitting into the Sox’s future with the outfield set through next year and Kalish easily ready to come up in ’12 (probably part way through ’11) and is a better player than Reddick.
The Royals would want something like Kelish and Stolmy and Bowden (since he doesn’t seem to fit in the MLB picture for Boston and has under performed when up with the big club.) Is that too much? Probably but the Royals don’t have to move him and the Red Sox are chasing both the division title and the wild card right now. Do the Red Sox have any bad contracts that end after this season that the Royals could take on so they don’t pass the lux tax?
The article says that KC would want one major league ready prospect along with one mid-level prospect or two lower level prospects. Bowden is actually with the big club now in the bullpen and by all accounts is taking to that role very well, so I don’t think he is going anywhere given the bullpen trouble we’ve been having. Kalish I don’t think the Sox would trade straight-up for Dejesus, that’s not to say that Dejesus isn’t worth it but the front office is really high on Kalish, who is raking in AAA, and he figures to be the future right fielder for the Sox. Stolmy shows flashes of greatness, but with our rotation locked up through ’14-’15 and Doubront and Kelly likely ahead of him, I could see Stolmy possibly going in a deal. As far as bad contracts go: sure I think everyone would love it if you took Mike Lowell and his contract, but the latest reports are that the Sox are already over the Luxury Tax.
I know that our owner David Glass would never take on Payroll but Mike Lowell is owed about 5 million for the rest of the season, and if I remember correctly the Sox aren’t that much over the tax. I could see something (that makes sense to me anyways) where KC takes on Lowell’s contract and helps Boston get under the tax.
DDJ to boston for
Kelish, Lowell, Stolmy, another low level prospect.
I think the Royals have to stick on Kelish if they deal DeJesus. They aren’t in a Carlos Beltran situation where they need to deal a guy. DeJesus has already stated that he likes being in KC and would sign an extension. Then add in the fact that the Padres like DDJ over the other outfielders out there. All of that gives KC a good amount of leverage to get a good deal for DDJ. I’d be very happy if we got Kelish, Stolmy and another low level prospect, but my organization has turned Carlos Beltran into Chris Getz (granted a couple trades down the line, but that is what Beltran has turned into for us.)
I agree that KC will probably want Kalish if they are going to send DDJ to Boston, and I actually don’t think a deal gets done because of that. Again, that’s not to say that he isn’t worth it but the Sox are really high on Kalish and I don’t think he is going anywhere.
Why would they trade for fielder if they already have Pena? who would they trade Pena for? Granted he isn’t hitting all that well, so trading him no would be uselss cuz they won’t get anything good back for him
They could put Pena or Fielder at DH for the rest of the season… not sure who’s defense is worse… lol…
Pena is by far the better fielder.. no pun intended
Yes, but Fielder is by far the better hitter. Especially this season.
Fielder is also back into his normal HR numbers. Yesterday he went deep to tie the National League lead (which also includes Corey Hart).
he’s batting a little over the mendoza line. he either hits a home run or gets out. just about nothing in between. it would be a lot wasier to teach prince defense then to teach pena there’s more to hitting then just home runs.
Prince also gets on base at a near .400 clip. Its only 22 HR, people have that in June in most years. Yes he has 22 HR but he walks a ton too.
Yes Pena won a gold glove a couple years ago.
It feels like it’s been a lifetime since I’ve read a non-site-related post by Tim.
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It’s amazing. Fielder is tied for the league lead in homers, OPS over .900 and seems to be climbing again, and no team seems to be willing to part with a legit package for him. Maybe Doug Melvin really should wait for the off-season.
It’s getting silly how teams are clinging to their prospects. I give the Rangers props for making a move and getting Cliff Lee when they actually have a chance to make a strong showing in the playoffs.
Agreed. Some teams (and fans of teams for that matter) are so reluctant to give up even one prospect for a legit player who can help them win a title.
I think it’s likely most GM’s think that unless he gets into shape he’ll only be able to maintain this level of production for 2 or 3 more years & Boras is going to be asking for at least 6 years guaranteed
Yes but we aren’t talking about resigning him. Just getting him and riding him the next year and a half to the playoffs and beyond then letting him walk.
Do his high strikeout totals factor into that? I hear old timers complain about sluggers who strike out a lot but figure they are just griping about ‘the good old days’. However, in this context, someone like Fielder would look really bad if he continues to strike out 150 + times per season and the HR numbers drop off. The GM would look even worse if it happened mid-contract on a Boras-type deal.