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Tigers Looking For Offense, Interested In Dunn

By Steve Adams | July 25, 2010 at 5:02pm CDT

5:02pm: ESPN's Buster Olney says that the Tigers could avoid having to deal top prospects by acquiring someone like Jose Guillen, who's owed a substantial amount of money. As Olney points out, the Tigers haven't minded adding payroll at the deadline in the past.

Olney also notes that the Tigers did have scouts watching Jayson Werth over the weekend.

3:22pm: Alex DiFilippo of MLB.com writes that Tigers GM Dave Dombrowski is adamant about not trading top prospects for a rental player. Specifically, Dombrowski mentioned Andy Oliver and Jacob Turner:

"Other clubs look at us and say, 'Well, they are desperate so maybe they will trade us Oliver and Turner,' " Dombrowski said. "Well we aren't. I'm not meaning to say that anyone is untouchable. I'm not going to give away blue-chip young players for a guy for two months. It just doesn't make sense…"

Given reports of the Nationals' sky-high asking prices for Dunn (they asked for Gordon Beckham from Chicago), one side will have to back down from those demands for a deal to be worked out.

2:24pm: The Tigers suffered a big hit to their 2010 offense when they lost Magglio Ordonez for 6-8 weeks with a broken ankle. Ordonez, 36, was in the middle of a rebound season after seeing a sharp drop in his power numbers in 2009.

MLB.com's Bill Ladson tweets that in the wake of this injury, the Tigers now have "great interest" in acquiring Nationals slugger Adam Dunn to fill the void.

Acquiring Dunn is likely of such great interest not only due to how it would help their own club, but also due to how it could throw a wrench into the plans of a different team. Dunn's biggest suitor has currently been one of the teams that the third-place Tigers are chasing — the first-place Chicago White Sox.

Detroit's offense has been strong this season, as indicated by their .758 team OPS, good for seventh in all of baseball. However, with Ordonez out and rookie Brennan Boesch in the midst of a large slump, it makes perfect sense that the Tigers would like to add some support to Miguel Cabrera on his quest for his first MVP award.

Detroit's been linked to several pitchers, namely Dan Haren, but the Ordonez injury seems to have them on the lookout for additional thump in the lineup as well.

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  1. dc21892

    11 years ago

    Dunn and Cabrera would be as good a 3-4 combo as there is in the game.

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    • Dave_Gershman

      11 years ago

      Cabrera Dunn and Boesch would be an even better 3-4-5 eh?

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      • Ferrariman

        11 years ago

        boesch is coming back down to earth. his minor league numbers never indicated THIS type of success.

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  2. InLeylandWeTrust

    11 years ago

    if dunn would for sure sign an extension with us, i say go get the man. dunn and cabrera?? good lord thatd be fearful

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  3. verlander

    11 years ago

    If they tried to get Dunn, could they still add a SP?

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    • Dave_Gershman

      11 years ago

      If they want to keep their prospects. But I bet $20 that the Nationals ask what they asked the white Sox for…Gordon Beckham, i.e. Brennan Boesch.

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      • verlander

        11 years ago

        Good point.

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        • Dave_Gershman

          11 years ago

          Thanks Justin.

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          • verlander

            11 years ago

            You’re welcome, Denard.

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            • Dave_Gershman

              11 years ago

              Most people refer to me as Spanny Ramirez but Denard works.

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  4. 106 and Ballparks

    11 years ago

    Overbay just smacked a HR off of Valverde. Maybe they just trade for Overbay, lol.

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  5. Pat_M

    11 years ago

    It would cost almost as much to add Dunn as it would to add Haren, and Dunn is only a half season rental. I don’t think this would be a smart move by the Tigers.

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  6. LongGone6

    11 years ago

    Im in favor of it only if Dunn signs an extension. With Ordonez on DL, his option wont vest. If he doesnt want an extension, dont do it

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  7. kenwo

    11 years ago

    you guys can have him…. we want the Prince instead.

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    • Tigerfan93

      11 years ago

      Ha. Do you think you’ll get Prince for cheaper than what you would have got Dunn for?

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  8. Steve Shoup

    11 years ago

    I can see why Dunn or Willingham for that matter make sense for Detroit but I am not sure if the Tigers have the pieces to get the deal done without Turner on the table. Traditionally a 3.5-5 WAR player (based on Dunn as a DH with that negative value) who is a rental is traded for a least one top 25 prospect plus 1-3 additional pieces. Dunn might not bring that high of a return but it will need to be close, even Andy Oliver and Daniel Schlereth might not be enough for Dunn. The Tigers have a ton of injuries that are holding back their farm system…a deal could happen but it will probably take more than most Tigers fans are willing to give up.

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  9. JayLGee

    11 years ago

    Not gonna happen. If the Nats were asking for Beckham and Quentin, what do you think they will be asking the tigers for? My guess Porcello/Jackson…..at which time Dombrowski does what KW did…hang up the phone.

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  10. jeffdg

    11 years ago

    Wouldnt Jose Bautista (and a reliever) make more sense, given he comes cheaper, plays OF and 3B, and is under contract for next season? I like Dunn, but he a DH only and costs a ton in prospects and salary.

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    • verlander

      11 years ago

      I actually think I prefer Bautista to Dunn now, and I’m not quite convinced Bautista can sustain what he’s doing right now.

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      • jeffdg

        11 years ago

        Seems a better fit right now as well, given his ability to play OF and 3B, and given their injuries.

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      • jeffdg

        11 years ago

        Seems a better fit right now as well, given his ability to play OF and 3B, and given their injuries.

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    • aap212

      11 years ago

      With Dunn, you know he’s for real. Bautista’s having a career year wildly out of line with anything else he’s done. Dunn is just doing what he does.

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  11. rbeezy

    11 years ago

    dunn doesn’t solve the tigers issues , there are just too many.

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    • verlander

      11 years ago

      If they added someone like Dunn, though, their chances of hanging in the race long enough for Inge and Ordoñez to come back and contribute to a pennant race are improved.Still would rather get Haren and whatever else the D’backs wanted to unload.

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    • verlander

      11 years ago

      If they added someone like Dunn, though, their chances of hanging in the race long enough for Inge and Ordoñez to come back and contribute to a pennant race are improved.Still would rather get Haren and whatever else the D’backs wanted to unload.

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  12. Tigerfan93

    11 years ago

    If Detroit can get a window to talk an extension w/ Dunn, I’m all for giving up Jacob Turner OR Andy Oliver, but not both. I would love to see Adam Dunn wearing the Olde English D on August 1st. However, if no extension is agreed upon, I don’t want him.

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    • gamaize

      11 years ago

      Turner for Dunn.

      Absolutely NOT.

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    • gamaize

      11 years ago

      Turner for Dunn.

      Absolutely NOT.

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    • airohpue13

      11 years ago

      Agreed. Tigers need to at least figure out how likely it would be to sign dunn to an extension, considering the amount they would have to give up for him. I still like Haren over Dunn too, but going after haren would be looking solely towards the next two years. Tigers may not win another game with this Cabrera and kids batting order.

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    • airohpue13

      11 years ago

      Agreed. Tigers need to at least figure out how likely it would be to sign dunn to an extension, considering the amount they would have to give up for him. I still like Haren over Dunn too, but going after haren would be looking solely towards the next two years. Tigers may not win another game with this Cabrera and kids batting order.

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    • verlander

      11 years ago

      I’d only give up Turner and Oliver for Haren.

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      • airohpue13

        11 years ago

        I go back and forth on that one.

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      • Tigerfan93

        11 years ago

        I didn’t say Oliver and Turner, I said one or the other. I know he’s still young and all, but I’m not overly impressed with Andy Oliver. The guy had two good starts while wearing a Tiger uniform, and then was just terrible. The guy could be great, but if I were DD, I wouldn’t still be so high on him.

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        • verlander

          11 years ago

          I don’t know if I’d give up either for Dunn. FA, doesn’t want to be a DH, can’t play the field or at least can’t play it well . . .

          Oliver had, what, a cup of coffee with the Tigers. He’s still developing. Why wouldn’t you still be high on him?

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          • Tigerfan93

            11 years ago

            I’m not saying he’s not going to be good, but I saw a lot of control issues. I don’t want Dunn if they can’t sign him to an extension right away. Dunn isn’t the best fielder, but Maggs was ran out there everyday and he looked lost on just about every fly ball. He was slow and lazy. Dunn is slow, but he plays hard, too (not saying Ordonez doesn’t, but you get my point).

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            • verlander

              11 years ago

              Oliver needs to develop his secondary stuff. If he can do that, I think he’ll be okay. I don’t think six or seven starts (while skipping a level) should dent his value so much.

              Maggs might not be a great fielder but Dunn is worse.

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              • jphenix2002

                11 years ago

                maggs makes up for his fielding with his bat. While I’m happy it frees up even more money for a free agent (Crawford maybe?) I am worried who will give cabrera protection next year now that ordonez wont have his option vest.

                I think another year of development will help Oliver out tremendously and I think he has a lot of promise. As verlander pointed out above, the guy skipped AAA after a half year at AA. The dude needs time to figure out who he is as a pitcher and I’m glad that he saw he needs to work harder to succeed at the major league level. I think the struggles will motivate him and he will become a solid pitcher for us come 2012.

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                • verlander

                  11 years ago

                  I think it’s possible Ordoñez is brought back on a one or two year deal. Ilitch is very loyal to guys who have “treated” him well, sometimes to a fault.

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                • verlander

                  11 years ago

                  I think it’s possible Ordoñez is brought back on a one or two year deal. Ilitch is very loyal to guys who have “treated” him well, sometimes to a fault.

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    • verlander

      11 years ago

      I’d only give up Turner and Oliver for Haren.

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  13. Tigerfan93

    11 years ago

    If Detroit can get a window to talk an extension w/ Dunn, I’m all for giving up Jacob Turner OR Andy Oliver, but not both. I would love to see Adam Dunn wearing the Olde English D on August 1st. However, if no extension is agreed upon, I don’t want him.

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  14. davidwright1234

    11 years ago

    They need Dunn after what happened to Maggs

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  15. airohpue13

    11 years ago

    If they are going to make trades to improve this year something needs to get done today or tomorrow. If they wait until July 31st they may be out of the race.

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  16. Dylan

    11 years ago

    I wonder what the Phillies would get from the Tigers for Werth.

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    • bulldurham08

      11 years ago

      I was literally typing the same thing right before I came across your comment. I have no clue. I’m not too familiar with what DET would have to offer in terms of pitching…Maybe someone can chime in. I can’t think of a Right handed bat that is on the block for Detroit. All I can think that the Tigers have to deal would be pitching? Interesting…As a Phils fan I honestly DO NOT WANT Oswalt. I want people that WANT to play for the Phillies and a serious contender…

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      • verlander

        11 years ago

        Most of the Tigers’ minor league depth is at pitching, I think.

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  17. InLeylandWeTrust

    11 years ago

    seeing what the nats wanted from chicago, id rather get jose guillen for cheap then sell the farm for 2 months of adam dunn.

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  18. Table

    11 years ago

    Where is the Jim Edmonds interest? Seems like a cheap option for allot of teams, at least to improve a bench or something.

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    • airohpue13

      11 years ago

      lol Jim Edmonds.

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      • Table

        11 years ago

        What’s funny? He is having a great year and would be 95% cheaper than Dunn, Fielder, Willingham etc. Would make too much sense for whatever team that fails to land the others.

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  19. verlander

    11 years ago

    I’d think about Dunn, Lilly and Bautista seriously now.

    Chicago has yet to run away with the division.

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  20. Fangaffes

    11 years ago

    The Tigers should give Theo Epstein a call and offer some top talent for Adrian Beltre. It’s time the Sox read the handwriting on the wall. This isn’t the year.

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  21. verlander

    11 years ago

    Who needs Dunn and his won’t-sign-an-extension-to-DH stance. We have RABURN!

    (Haha. Yeah I know, I know.)

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  22. stltiger69

    11 years ago

    Nothing personal, but why don’t we just save a prospect or two (or three) and “bid” on Dunn in the coming off season or perhaps bid on one of these players in the off season instead;

    Prince Fielder, Adrian Beltre, Paul Konerko, Lance Berkman, David Ortiz, Carlos Pena, Lyle Overbay, (Albert Pujols will sign with St. Louis, but technically….), Carl Crawford, Jayson Werth, Victor Martinez may all be available. Any Tiger fans see any names they would rather have than Adam Dunn and at a similar price where your not giving up prospects to get them? Or if you must, Dunn will be a free agent at the end of this season anyway, so if you just have to get Dunn, get him after the seasons over as a free agent instead…..

    The Tigers got a lot of questions for 2011 ((Do you bring back Brandon Inge, Johnny Damon, Magglio Ordonez, Gerald Laird, Joel Zumaya, Bobby Seay and Jeremy Bonderman?)) and part of those answers to those questions is how the prospects will perform this year to see what the Tigers need player wise going forward. I personally would rather play out this season and see what we got and then try and get as free agents Prince Fielder at DH and Carl Crawford playing outfield rather than trying to sign (or resign) Adam Dunn for 2011. The thought of Austin Jackson and Carl Crawford playing in the same outfield and batting together at the top of a line up makes me think good things for 2011…

    Just my 2 cents- thanks!

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    • verlander

      11 years ago

      I think Crawford will end up a Yankee.

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      • stltiger69

        11 years ago

        I don’t disagree with you, but the Yankees have huge issues (Pettitte, Vazquez, Rivera and Jeter are free agents AND Mitre, Hughes and Chamberlain are all due big pay raisers because they will be arbitration elgible). The Yankees could (therortically)be without a starting shortstop, two of there five starters and there ace closer if they screw up this off season and your guess how much it will all cost is as good as mine. Most of the “superstar” free agents go shortly after the free agency period begins and my hunch is the Yankees will be pretty busy trying to hang onto what they got without going crazy in the free agent market. BUT, I would not count the Yankees out of anything!

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        • verlander

          11 years ago

          I can’t imagine the Yankees letting Jeter and Rivera walk.

          I don’t think the Tigers will get Dunn. He said he won’t DH and he won’t sign an extension to DH. The Tigers have said they won’t trade top prospects for a two month rental. I just don’t see it happening. I’d rather the Tigers look at a guy like Jayson Werth, or even José Bautista or José Guillén.

          Also, considering what Arizona got for Haren, I wonder if the Tigers could talk them into a Galarraga-for-Drew swap. Ha.

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        • jphenix2002

          11 years ago

          Detroit will have the money to hang with New York on Crawford and Dombrowski is aggressive enough to get him. Maybe they’re more interested in Werth (ny i mean)? Im bein optomistic but Crawford would only help the team in every aspect.

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