The Marlins have ceased negotiations with Dan Uggla about a long-term contract, the second baseman told The Associated Press. Uggla said he and his representatives still want to negotiate, but the club has broken off talks for the time being.
It's possible the Marlins are simply going back to the drawing board to create a new offer after Uggla turned down their four-year, $48MM proposal last weekend. Or, perhaps the club is taking time to once again look at its trade options with regards to the slugger. Jon Paul Morosi and Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com report that the Tigers have contacted Florida about Uggla. Though Detroit's primary need is for a left-handed batter, the right-handed hitting Uggla provides a big upgrade over the Tigers' current second base options of Scott Sizemore and Will Rhymes.
Morosi and Rosenthal report the Tigers are "looking everywhere for a power bat." Detroit could revisit trying to acquire Adam Dunn after exploring a deal for him at the trade deadline, though the club's main offseason priority is Victor Martinez.
Hang onto our prospects and put this money to good use via Dunn or Vmart. I’d love to see Uggla wearing the old english d but I’m afraid of the prospects it would cost.
Honestly, to me the Marlins are backing themselves into a corner. How much can they really ask for Uggla is it’s known that they aren’t negotiating with him and are essentially going to lose him to free agency next year? It’s going to be a salary dump if they deal him because he’s already expensive. I realize he’s a valuable player but they don’t want to pay him apparently so they’re not exactly in a position to demand a ransom.
They apparently want relievers. Would you give up Perry for Uggla?
Easily.
In a heartbeat.
Sure would….
Giants front office needs to pounce!
and play him where? the giants are built on pitching and defense, and uggla is a complete hack with the glove. we already have sanchez, who is easily above average defensively. uggla doesn’t really fit in anywhere unless he can magically become half-decent at 3rd
They need his offense. They will probably lose Uribe, and Sandoval might show up in the spring at 400 pounds.
The giants also just finally got our rings, thank god, so the pressure to win right now isn’t there anymore. If I’m making the decisions, Uribe is let go and try to bring in someone like bartlett or hardy if he gets non-tendered. Younger, cheaper, better defense and wait on a bat. the options out there right now aren’t overwhelming unless you want to back up a mack truck full of money to werth or crawford. the giants can wait to see if someone gets put on the trade block after the winter meetings or approaching the 2011 trade deadline who isn’t as bad of a fielder
you say ‘we’, are you on the team?
haha, after suffering with this team for the last few decades and the miracle run this year, I feel honorary member status is due. Not holding my breath on that one, though
103…
sanchez has played 3b, 172 games, in his career. Uggla has always knocked the cover off the ball in sf. I think his bat would make up for a few of the balls he hucks into the stands.
Freddy had probably his best season at 3rd base he was also an all-star that year I’m sure he wouldn’t mind switching to help the team. And Uggla absolutely rakes at AT&T I think in like 15 games he has 8 homeruns there including 2 this year.
That’s about the smallest sample size ive ever seen anyone get excited about
Wow Jeffrey Loria great job. Another star who belongs in Florida but is going to leave the organization…Whats going to happen next the Tigers are going to give the Marlins Jacob Turner to the Marlins? And then Turner turns in to Andrew Miller…
The Marlins need to lock up this guy. He belongs in Florida and he is a 2B. Power hitting 2B’s don’t grow on trees…Neither do players who are face 2.0 of an organization and one of the best to play for the organization in it’s history.
This is probably the most vicious thing I’ve ever seen you type. I like it XD
Sorry
Well you weren’t wrong.
For a team that’s never out of it early and always thinks it can contend it’s pretty inexcusable for them to lose a guy like that for what’s likely a few million bucks…. since we know they have it. They pulled their stunt, got their stadium, got exposed as frauds and yet still won’t pay good players unless the commissioner and union step in and force them to.
Now, all that being said, their front office is obviously pretty shrewd, so you can’t completely ignore the fact that by trading Uggla they could actually be getting better/younger/cheaper at the same time. That should be the goal of every organization though, not just the cheap ones.
Sorry
I really like hearing from you since you usually have great things to say about the marlins and your knowledge, but its not like the marlins didnt try to sign him long term. They offered him 4 years, and 3 years of being paid the most in marlins history. i hope something gets done but its uggla really worth 5/60? or 4/52? Probably not, and its a shame cause some team will pay him that. But 4/48 wasnt bad considering its in essence a 3/40 deal and the marlins are usually very cheap. If the issue is more money in the first year, im sure they can make it 4/51 or if its the fifth year make it an option. who knows, but this will be the one guy if they trade i wont be as upset as usual, cause at least this time they made an effort.
They won’t part with Turner. Probably Oliver.
Agreed.
Agreed.
The Tigers aren’t going to give the Marlins Jacob Turner for Dan Uggla. If they wouldn’t give up Turner for Cliff Lee and Dan Haren . . .
Howie Kendrick + Napoli for Uggla?
Not a chance.
Why not? The Marlins get a power hitting catcher, and the fish need a catcher, and an OK 2B to replace Uggla. Who knows? Maybe Kendrick could benefit from a change of scenery
Does Napoli factor into long term plans? No.
Considering Florida may not bring back Paulino due to his suspension, acquiring a guy who mashes lefties and can simply hit wouldn’t be a bad idea. The Marlins’ left handed catcher Baker is also 29. That would be an awesome platoon. I’m not in favor of Howie Kendrick though.
You should be asking if Uggla factors into long term plans. Again, apparently, the answer is no.
I do have to ask though, why couldn’t Napoli factor into long term plans? He’s not very good defensively but the guy can hit.
I don’t know, as a straight baseball trade it’s not all that bad. Napoli isn’t exactly a favorite of the Angels despite the fact that he can hit and Kendrick hasn’t exactly blossomed. Uggla is clearly the best player in the deal but the Fish would be getting a rare commodity in Napoli (a catcher who rakes) and Kendrick is still young enough to have potential.
Besides, what was the Angels problem in ’10? Offense. What is Dan Uggla is not a top 5 (7?) offensive player at his position? Of course if the Angels used Napoli correctly Uggla wouldn’t be a big offensive upgrade, but they don’t, so he would be. It’s not just that Napoli is underutilized, it’s that Jeff Mathis gets too many AB’s because he’s underutilized. (Hmm, maybe I just screwed my case for the Uggla deal, Mathis is the catcher they need to get rid of.)
Hank Conger, Fabio Martinez, Garrett Richards, and Luis Jimenez for Uggla and Heatley.
No deal.
That’s a fantasy baseball trade.
Go get’em Dombrowski!
I agree. Tigers are my (distant) second team, Dombrowski boned them on the last big deal they made, the Fish braintrust makes me not want to see that team succeed, so why not? I hope Dombrowski trades them the next Andrew Miller for him.
However, if the Cubs can trick them into taking Blake DeWitt and Kosuke Fukudome for Uggla, then Dombrowski can get just bent!
Shocking! The Marlins unwilling to pay to keep a star! Never saw it coming!
their offer was more than fair. it is uggla that is to blame for turning it down.
their offer was more than fair. it is uggla that is to blame for turning it down.
Meh.
If 4/$48MM was an accurate offer, then Uggla is the one who doesn’t want to stay in Florida. That was very fair, especially if Uggla wanting less average money for an extra year is accurate. It either means he’s over-valuing the extra year that he probably won’t get from any other team either, or he’s pretending to want to stay in Florida when he doesn’t.
You can’t really blame the guy if he doesn’t want to be there. I mean, he’s been there long enough to know how they operate. Yeah, they’ve won a couple WS but what are the real chances of that happening again by the time he’s ready to retire? At best it’s 1/30 each year (if the Yankees are 1/10 and the Pirates are 1/1000 then 1/30 sounds about right for the Fish).
I do agree that 4/48 is fair though but I can’t blame Uggla for seeking more. I mean really if the Marlins are offering you 4/48 what would you think you were worth on the open market? 6/80? 50/900? Think about it, the Marlins offering fair value… wouldn’t you be confused too?
Meh.
If 4/$48MM was an accurate offer, then Uggla is the one who doesn’t want to stay in Florida. That was very fair, especially if Uggla wanting less average money for an extra year is accurate. It either means he’s over-valuing the extra year that he probably won’t get from any other team either, or he’s pretending to want to stay in Florida when he doesn’t.
Anybody else Boston should consider Uggla to play third base? He’d be a hell of an addition I think, and I’m a Yankee Fan. Beltre is gunna want the world and unless you think you can move Youk to third and get either Prince Fielder or Adrian Gonzalez, I’d at least consider making a move for Uggla. Sox and Fish seem to have a good working relationship.
Uggla hasn’t played third since he played AA ball. Personally I’d rather someone who I know can field the position.
Totally understandable. But like I said, what’s the other option?
Beltre was going to be quite costly in the first place after his season, and the Angels seem keen on making it worse. Unless you think you can get A-Gon or Prince, who would you rather bring in (realistically) to play first base in the event you move Youk to third base, that would make you pass on Uggla?
It’s obviously not a move that screams defensive improvement. But Uggla’s bat would play great at Fenway Park, and unless you pony up for Beltre or acquire one of the two big first base guys, I think he’d be the best option out there.
I think if the Sox got him he’d, play left. But I don’t think they’ll pursue him, there are better options to play left via free agency or trade.
i want the giants to get him bad but it doesn’t make sense this year. makes a lot of sense for the giants to pick him up in free agency next year but not trade for him when they still have sanchez their.
Sanchez could move to third base. So could Uggla.
Unless you’re holding third base for the guy who ate the guy who ate the “most hotdogs eaten in a ridiculous shot time span” guy.
uggla hasnt played 3rd since about a dozen games in the minors in 2005, he wont be making that switch. sanchez has played 3rd in the majors pretty well before, but why move him and take away a huge strength in his defense at 2nd where hes involved in many more plays?
To bring in Uggla’s bat? No one is fooling themselves about his defense, but the bat would make a Posey-Huff-Uggla 3-4-5 situation that would be killer.
florida will also want a king’s ransom in a trade for a guy who has great power and is pretty much useless to your team when he is not hitting them. him costing money is one thing, but to get him now the giants will need to part with at least 2 of our higher upside players, THEN sign him after this year…pass. not what this team needs to be doing
Makes plenty of sense what you’re saying, I get that. But the difference between now and then, is that every other team can be in on him when it’s just money. And if you don’t get him for 2011, whats your third base situation? Sandoval again? Uribe is going to get a lot of attention I suspect, and even if he comes back, I’d think it will be to play shortstop.
uribe is a much better shortstop than 3rd baseman, boots way too many routine balls at the hot corner, so that seems right. I get the appeal of uggla, his power wont be hurt by our park since hes a pull hitter and those homers would look good, it just doesn’t feel right to me. Now that they have finally won it all, they can build the right way- with young, controllable players and solid pitching and defense. having uggla seems like they would be doing half and half, especially the way culbertson has been hitting in the AFL. If you can pay culbertson the minimum to hit .270 with 15 homers and play below average defense or uggla 10 mil+ for .285 and 30 homers with comparable defense, I go with saving money. I know culbertson hasn’t played above high A ball, but his bat has been getting rave reviews from scouts about being close to MLB ready
All I’m thinking is that there was serious luck on the offensive end, and even though I’m not a Giants fan, I think it’s great for baseball to see them continue to be contenders. They have the pitching (thinks of Lincecum, Cain, and Bumgarner and drools), they just need another bat.
I agree with everything you just said.
agree as well. For the last couple of years since Lincecum came up everyone kept saying “just imagine what this rotation can do in a 5 or 7 game series” well now we dont have to wonder anymore.
ive watched a little bit of culbertson’s swing, and i keep thinking chase utley from the right side. short powerful swing with a strong front shoulder and keeps both hands on the bat.
uribe is a much better shortstop than 3rd baseman, boots way too many routine balls at the hot corner, so that seems right. I get the appeal of uggla, his power wont be hurt by our park since hes a pull hitter and those homers would look good, it just doesn’t feel right to me. Now that they have finally won it all, they can build the right way- with young, controllable players and solid pitching and defense. having uggla seems like they would be doing half and half, especially the way culbertson has been hitting in the AFL. If you can pay culbertson the minimum to hit .270 with 15 homers and play below average defense or uggla 10 mil+ for .285 and 30 homers with comparable defense, I go with saving money. I know culbertson hasn’t played above high A ball, but his bat has been getting rave reviews from scouts about being close to MLB ready
Florida is putting themselves in a position where they’re essentially going to be dumping his salary. SF isn’t going back to the WS next year if they don’t improve their offense. Right now they’re set to lose offense in Burrell and probably one of Uribe and Huff. What are the odds of Huff repeating his 2010 season in 2011 (go back and look at his career, year by year)? Can the Giants count on KFP to get in shape? If he does will he be the same hitter?
Still think the Giants shouldn’t pursue Uggla?
He’s still going to cost too much to get him now. Dan Uggla by himself is not going to make this lineup a juggernaut, and to re-sign him is going to take enough money that keeping our rotation intact becomes in doubt once Cain and Lincecum’s current deals run out. Getting him is going all in for the short-term, the last thing this team should be doing right now. Huff’s resurgence came from him dropping weight and working on conditioning more than ever before, so assuming he stays in shape, I don’t think a huge drop will happen in 2011. Plus, if Belt keeps raking, just move Huff to the OF and we’re still in fine shape. So yeah, I’m kinda sticking with my original idea
Playing 2b and playing 3b aren’t all that different, it’s not like the difference between being a rocket scientist and being Ed Wade. Hell, have you ever thought of the fact that Uggla might be a better 3b than 2b? If you had Aramis Ramirez would you put him at 2b or 3b? How about Scott Rolen? ARod? Uggla?
Just because someone hasn’t done something doesn’t mean they can’t, it only means they haven’t. Think outside the box and a lot of possibilities open up. This might be one that the scouts have the last word on but it certainly shouldn’t be ruled out completely.
So saying a guy who is probably one of the 5 worst second basemen in the MLB right now defensively is not expected to become even a passable third basemen is my bad? Sure dude, that makes perfect sense. Comparing him to Rolen, Ramirez and ARod is a huge stretch
Sanchez doesn’t have the arm strength to play 3rd.
Freddy is a lot better at second than he is at third, and he hasn’t play there full time since 2006. Also he isn’t as healthy as he was back then, so moving him to third might be a risk.
definitely should consider him, but i agree, the timing is all wrong
The Giants have done well with players from the Marlins. Why not go after him and put him at third for a year, then they have options when Sanchez becomes a FA in 2012.
Livan Hernandez, Robb Nenn and Cody Ross…..that’s a nice haul from the Fish.
Add Uggla NOW, Sabes !!
Yeah but that’s a REALLY strange reason to acquire talent, just because you got lucky with that team in the past. I think that’s how Dave Littlefield did things.
Besides, just trading for Uggla won’t make him a non-free agent in 2011, they still have to sign him to an extension if they want to have options when/if Sanchez leaves.
Please no more trading with the Tigers.
YO ORIOLES! Sign this playa up for an infield spot. I don’t care where…1B/2B/SS/3B. If he can field a baseball I want him on the field somewhere. This boy can rake! We need that offense & have plenty of prospects.
I would love to see Uggla at short.
Ya.. we better stay away from 1B. Idk if the SS comment was sarcasm…but I’d just like to see Dan in the yard, anywhere – with an O’s jersey on. Preferably 3B, but quite possibly 2B as Roberts may have the reoccurring herniated disk injury.
It was sarcastic. Uggla at short is probably the opposite of Ozzie Smith.
He would definitely be an upgrade for the O’s, somewhere. 3b or 2b if Roberts is down. He’s not a great option at 1b and a really poor option a SS but the O’s do have the DH option too, so it’s not out of the question.
Ya.. we better stay away from 1B. Idk if the SS comment was sarcasm…but I’d just like to see Dan in the yard, anywhere – with an O’s jersey on. Preferably 3B, but quite possibly 2B as Roberts may have the reoccurring herniated disk injury.
Some of you are acting like the Marlins have blown it or are cheap. C’mon now… they offer a 30 year old, lousy fielding 2B a 4 year / $48M deal, hardly frugal, and he turns it down. I’d say they made a heck of an offer. Let him hit free agency in a year and see what kind of deal he’ll get on the open market. Comparable but no better than that. Brian Roberts did better from Baltimore and that was in a players’ market AND he’s a better overall player than Uggla.
His stock will most likely never be higher…I think you gotta trade him if they can’t reach a deal.
But was it REALLY those numbers???
Oh snap!
Last Tiger Marlin trade didn’t work out so well for the Fish, lets not venture down that way again lol
I’m all for it 😉
That was still only one trade, I don’t think you can let one flop scare you off of trading with a certain team. The marlins have still fleeced people much more often than they have been fleeced
Andrew Miller was the highest paid Marlin after that trade was completed. Just $ 2 million.
you mean nate robertson for cash?
the funny part about that trade, is that the Tigers initially inquired about Willis
The Marlins didn’t like the offer and decided to wait another year and see if Dontrelle would rebound and increase value
After they danced around with the Angels, Dodgers and Giants, and all three got upset because they were moving the goal posts on a trade, the Tigers came and inquired
The Tigers would not part with both Miller and Maybin for just Cabrera (amazing) but when Willis was included, they were willing to give both, plus four more prospects- ANY six in the organization. If that wasn’t bad enough, they then extended Willis.
Dombrowski’s best move- trading for Cabrera, and his worst- extending Willis, all related to one deal
Rasmus for Uggla?
Probably not enough going back to the Cardinals but not a bad place to start given age/salary/need.
At the risk of sounding like an idiot or a genius (probably the former), Rasmus for Uggla? You could throw in a third team like the White Sox. Sox get Rasmus, Cards get Uggla, Marlins get John Danks and a prospect(s).
Not bad. I think the Cards would want more for Rasmus and the Marlins would be fine with a Uggla/Danks swap so maybe the prospect goes to the Cards instead of the Marlins?
At the risk of sounding like an idiot or a genius (probably the former), Rasmus for Uggla? You could throw in a third team like the White Sox. Sox get Rasmus, Cards get Uggla, Marlins get John Danks and a prospect(s).
Ahh those Marlins up to their old tricks again. Gotta love ’em!
Hmmm, what would it take to get uggla? Proabably a top 10 prospect and 2 lesser prospects?
Tiger pitchers are having nightmares. Uggla and Peralta up the middle would be UGGLY!
ahh I see what you did there. 🙂
What??? We need a 2nd baseman? But we have Scott Sizemore! He’s our future. Besides, isn’t he the reason we let Polly go???
Too bad sarcasm doesn’t translate well.
You are exactly right. Polly not in Detroit is a travesty…
But if we could cut our losses and grab uggla inwould feel a lot better about not having polanco…
we would have the worst defense up the middle in the majors
Well, we could upgrade the defense a bit
Put Guillen at second and let Uggla DH :-))
Then after 2 weeks comes Guillens first DL stint of the season and Uggla is playing 2nd anyway.
Hanley was rumored to be on the DD radar so a uggla/Hanley for 6 prospects draws serious similarities to a really recent, monster trade…..*cough*(cabrera/willis)But it is just there style of the tiggys to make a recent big signing(example inge/peralta) sit the bench the whole freaking year and pay them stupid amounts of money(example…..pick a stupid DD contract)HOWEVER…..this rumor does make me ask this question; can you turn Inge or peralta into an outfielder? I mean, you could just move peralta to third and inge to the OF or leave Inge a hot corner and convert jhonny. Inge is a great athlete and an equally good ball player. He has a great arm and has played every position the Tigers have asked him to and has played all of them admirably well…peralta is also a very good athlete who is still young enough to play rightfield and is a good enough ballplayer to do it adequately. He definitely has the arm to play outfield but then you have to ask would either of them in the outfield be better than raburn or boesch both offensively and defensively for a whole year?I’m not putting anything past DD when it comes to a blockbuster trade and this Uggla(with Hanley) rumor has popped up a couple of times. Regardless, this article and my own babbling rant sounds like just one more elaborate way for DD to waste some more of illitch’s money, one way or another.
Hanley rumors have been started by dreaming tigers fans. No truth. They have him under contract for 4 years (pretty team friendly) I believe and they need a face of the franchise for the opening of their new ballpark. Plus I don’t think the tigers have enough in their entire farm to make a deal for those two.
Uggla/Hanley for sizemore, turner, stierby, furbush + or – a prospect sounds really beneficial to both teams and sounds exactly like something both organizations would be more than willing to do.
Then do you DH Jhonny??? Do they still sign V-Mart? God, if they pulled of that trade and sign V-Mart and some bullpen help the Tigers might win the world series.
Throw inge into right field and move peralta to third(or visa versa)Still sign vmart and a reliever or a starter. I would say go grab a starter and forget about moving coke to the rotation…bonderman is a legitimate choice for the bullpen if he is cheap enough, zumaya will be back and so depending on who DD trades away, the bullpen may need very little help anyway so grabbing a guy for the back end of the rotation would make sense.
That’s not enough for both
Cabrerea and Willis cost less than that. I bet they could get that deal done without coughing up Oliver.
You’re kidding right? Sizemore doesn’t have much value IMO. It would cost Turner, Oliver, and Furbush just to get them talking. Arizona wanted Turner and Oliver for Dan Haren. Think of what it would cost for a top 5 2B and a top SS.
As long as he can prove he’s healthy, Sizemore has legitimate value. He was a minor league offensive juggernaut and has a fairly decent glove. And Arizona is much different than Florida-the marlins just seem more inclined to wheel and deal with talent for prospect. Not saying it’s gonna happen, but that kind of a trade is exactly what both sides want.
Strieby and Sizemore don’t have a lot of value to opposing teams in a blockbuster deal. Probably would take Fields, Furbush, Turner, Oliver +. It’s not worth it man.
RING RING
Secretary: Hello
Caller: Hi Gracie, it’s Dave, can I speak to Larry?
Gracie: Sure, Dave, let me get him
Gracie: Mister Beinfest? I have…
Beinfest: Go away!
Gracie: But sir, it’s Dave Dom
Beinfest: I know who it is, tell him I’m busy
Gracie: But sir, I told him that you were her
Beinfest: Shoot
Beinfest: Hello?
Dombrowski: Hey Larry, whaddya say we talk some trade
Beinfest: Um. Sh. Sh. Sure Dave, what do you have in mind
Dombrowski: Dan Uggla
Beinfest: Well Dave, we’re not selling Uggla, we’ve got to extend him, you know all that pressure from the league office
Dombrowski: How about a pick six
Beinfest: YIKES! Who else are you looking for
Dombrowski: How about either Josh Johnson or Ricky Nolasco
Beinfest: I don’t like how that turned out before. We just basically gave Andrew Miller to Boston
Dombrowski: Larry, you didn’t wait him out, some pitchers take time, you just didn’t want to pay him what he’d get in arbitrattion
Beinfest: So I’d get to pick any six players from your farm for Uggla and Nolasco
Dombrowski: Well what six would you want
Beinfest: Well, Turner of course, and Andy Oliver, and …..
Dombrowski: How about Scott Sizemore, he can play second, and he’s ready for the majors, and we have this kid Cale Iorg, Garth’s boy, he’ll be an All star sooner than you think
Beinfest, okay that’s four, and how about Danny Fields and Dan Schlereth
Dombrowski” DEAL!
Beinfest: Wait a minute, I didn’t say
Dombrowski: I’ll draw it up and send it in to the league
Beinfest: All these guys make the minimum?
Dombrowski: All except Turner, who gets 1.2 million, but we’re gonna have to pay Uggla some fifty million bucks
Beinfest: Well, that’s true, but
Dombrowski: Tell ya what, I’ll buy two of your luxury boxes
Beinfest: Okay, make that check out to L-A-R
Dombrowski: I can spell your name Larry, I remember it from that Cabr
Beinfest: DON”T bring that trade up
Dombrowski: I was gonna say that cab ride at the winter meetings a year ago
Beinfest: Okay, so we get Turner, Oliver, Bruce Fields boy, Ted Sizemore’s boy, Garth Iorg’s boy, and….
Dombrowski: Mark Schlereth’s boy. You want Avila’s boy or Leyland’s boy too?
Beinfest: Hahahaha
Dombrowski: Hahahahaha
Beinfest: Well, thanks, Dave, I mean for taking those guys off my, I mean, well you know
Dombrowski: Sure, Larry. Now if you wanna trade Hanl
Beinfest: BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Wow, this is amazing.
This is the single greatest thing I have ever read on this site
That is awesome. I swear you were in his office….
Run up a “part 2” for the Hanley idea and you may win a pulitzer.
You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar. Now let’s make this happen in real life.
Transcendent.
How about Napoli,Kendrick,Aybar, Jimenez, Garret Richards and Trevor Reckling for Han-Ram and Uggla?
Let’s trade Emilio Bonifacio, P.J. Dean, and Jake Smolinski for Dan Uggla! That’ll do the trick…
remember that trade when the tigers got 2 superstars from the marlins (cabrera,willis). dombrowski do that trade again but with uggla and johnson or uggla and hanly ramierez
keep dreaming.
people were saying keep dreaming before the cabrera and willis trade but it happened
neither was locked up to long term contracts. johnson and hanley are. totally different. like i said, keep dreaming.
Uggla and Hankey to te tigers isn’t all that unlikely
How bad is Uggla’s defense? I heard it wasn’t . . . great. Uggla + Peralta up the middle makes me slightly queasy.
That would be the worst defensive middle infield in baseball.
That would be the worst defensive middle infield in baseball.
How bad is Uggla’s defense? I heard it wasn’t . . . great. Uggla + Peralta up the middle makes me slightly queasy.
I think that the perfect offseason for the Tigers would be to sign Dunn to a 4 year 65 mil. contract. Then go after Uggla and give the Marlins Andy Oliver, Armando Galarraga, and Scott Sizemore this way they are getting a replacement. Then we should say hey Jayson Werth look who we got Miguel Cabrera, Adam Dunn, Dan Uggla, Justin Verlander, Austin Jackson and possibly he would take a discount if not then they should go after Martinez and let him fill out the blank check. So I think the Tigers need to focus on singing Dunn, Werth or Martinez. Dunn definitely. Then throw who out whoever wants more money than the other and hopefully it’s Werth so they can sign Martinez and and have a swithc-hittng lefty who can protect Cabrera. Secondly I think they have to trade for either Beltran, Uggla, or Greinke.