The Marlins wasted no time trading Dan Uggla this offseason, sending him to Atlanta for Omar Infante and Mike Dunn on Tuesday. The move came less than a week after the team broke off extension talks with their All Star second baseman due to a gap in negotiations.
Let's round up the latest Marlins' news in the wake of the trade…
- The Marlins repeatedly increased their contract offer to Uggla, tweets Clark Spencer of The Miami Herald, but he never backed down from five-years, $71MM. The original offer was four years and $48MM.
- Joe Capozzi of The Palm Beach Post says (via Twitter) that the Fish had substantial trade talks with five teams about their second baseman.
- The Cardinals had interest in Uggla but balked at the Marlins' asking price of Colby Rasmus, tweets Joe Strauss of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.
- Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports says (via Twitter) that the Blue Jays had the most early interest in Uggla, offering prospects RHP Josh Roenicke, RHP Danny Farquhar, and either SS Ryan Goins or OF Darin Mastroianni.
- MLB.com's Alden Gonzalez tweets that Marlins exec Larry Beinfest said the money that would have gone to Uggla will be spent elsewhere, and not coincidentally Carl Pavano is now an option for them according to Capozzi (Twitter link).
- Meanwhile, ESPN's Jerry Crasnick says Florida originally asked Atlanta for Martin Prado in exchange for their second baseman, but later settled on Omar Infante.
I’m glad that the Braves could spin Omar Infante into Dan Uggla. The best Jim Hendry could do with him was getting Jose Ascanio. Nice job Jim.
Can’t say this about many trades, but it seems both teams got noticeably better from this. Braves get Uggla’s bat for a year, while the Marlins get Dunn, Infante and used the money they weren’t paying Uggla to get John Buck
except for the fact that john buck had a career year this past season, his age 30 season at a position that is not kind to age,. and his career year was not all that great…he is a passed ball wild pitch master(yes he can call one heck of a game but still) the offer for him is wayyyy too much for the type of team teh marlins SHOULD BE trying to build….this trade is a clear win for the braves…worst case they offer uggla arb next season and get 2 draft picks…best case he is the 2nd basemen/ 1st basemen of the future….Speaking of 1st i wonder if thats where he could find alot of playing time next season if chipper comes back, is healthy and produces a typical chipper year….
Even if Buck regresses a bit, unless he drops off a cliff he is still an upgrade for the marlins at catcher. All this was done while lowering their current payroll from last year by about 2 mil. I’m guessing the Braves play Uggla mostly at 2nd, but he can easily slide over to 1st
So let me think this through…their bullpen is better now, Chris Coghlan can move to second base finally (or third like they previously had planned), and they get to use Morrison in LF and Infante at 3B. Not bad, but they need to get a good CF.
Coghlan at 2nd, Infante at 3rd, and not the other way around? That’s how I’d do it. Do you have a strong sense one way or the other?
Not necessarily, but checking his minor league stats Omar is much better as a 2B than a 3B…so I recant my original plan and will say Omar at second, Coghlan at 3rd.
they are still thinking about dominguez at third and coghlan in the outfield.
Dominguez would add a lot more power to that lineup. I figured Morrison would fit in left field…but that would mean that if Coghlan was in the OF he would have to play CF. I hope that’s not the plan…especially right after his surgery. But that would definitely be one good, powerful, young offense if they could fit them all in.
I think Omar is a dominguez back up plan. Cogz was a third baseman in college as well. Remember bonifacio as well, as much as we hated him in the beginning he really looked good towards the end of the year
Fish got Buck?
3 year deal for 18 mil.
Haha Prado for a year of Uggla?
what?
you are assuming they dont extend uggla…and remember at the very least they will more than likely get 2 picks for him next season..and it will be nice to see what uggla can do on a consistent favorite
doesn’t change the fact that Prado is much more valuable
Considering that the Braves gave up one year of their backup infielder for Uggla instead of three years of Prado, who was arguably the Braves best hitter last year, makes it that much more laughable that they even asked for Prado.
And if they add Pavano too, at least partially because of the money this freed up, then the Marlins definitely have improved.
assuming pavano is what he was in minn(3rd starter at best!!! and not what he was in NY..BAD)
Goins/Mastroianni, Roenicke and Farquhar.. and they took Infante and Dunn
woops
and hullo wanted to trade lind, jpa and rzyp!
woops!
Wow. The Marlins are on pace for a record worst offseason ever.
I think the next move should be trading Hanley Ramirez for Brett Favre.
Then sign Hee Seop Choi to play shortstop.
Hey, I hear Choi is RAKING back in Korea. Just saying. ;)
raking leaves on the floor. he’s a janitor now… people hate on him in korea too… I would know I went to a couple of Kia Tigers games this year. Wasn’t impressed by him at all.
but he was a star for the tigers in 09′ 30 something HRs
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
The draft picks that the Braves would get from letting Uggla walk would basically mean they got a free year of Dan Uggla. Mike Dunn will have to be some kind of stud for this to look good on the Marlins’ end.
Really? a 30/100 a year guy for a utility infielder and a solid but not spectacular LH reliever? Had Florida been able to get Prado in the deal instead of Infante it might have made more sense. But this was all it took? Im not a fan of either team but right now it looks like the Braves fleeced the fish on this one. On the glass half full side of the argument for FLA they have the makings of a very good young bullpen with they guys that have acquired in Webb, Mujica, and Dunn and Infante gives them flexibility with where they want to put Coghlan.
I think that they will go with their original plan of playing him at 3B at least to start the year and then move him to 2B when Dominguez is ready. Coming off of that knee injury i dont think its a good idea to start him at 2B yet with having to make that awkward pivot around the bag on double plays and having guys sliding into that knee on a daily basis. Put him at 3rd and Infante at 2B then if Dominguez is ready part way through the year you can always slide Coghlan back to 2B and use Infante as a super utility guy.
Why is everyone shunning the Fish over this trade? This is not a tit for a tat like everyone is making it to be. The Braves got Uggla, gave Infante and Dunn and have to pay and additional $7-8mil. The fish sent Uggla, and got Infante and Dunn and saved $7-8 mill. The fish now sign John Buck and still have $$ left over from Uggla’s expected contract. EVERYONE IS FORGETTING THIS COST THE BRAVES BIG $$$$$ AND TALENT FOR A ONE YEAR LOAN.
Besides, the fish do not need anymore power hitters (Hanley, Stanton, Sanchez). They need defense and relief pitching.
Eh, it didn’t really cost us much talent. Omar is a great utility man, but Uggla is clearly a better fit for us. And we have lefties coming out the wazoo, so losing Dunn doesn’t hurt either. If the worst-case scenario is that we traded a year of Infante for a year of Uggla and Mike Dunn for two draft picks, I’ll sleep very soundly at night.
i would have lost it if we had traded prado…
i would have lost it if we had traded prado…
ummm let me get this straight…u take away uggla’s 9 million…then u add in Bucks 6 million…plus at LEAST 1.5 mil for Prado this year…plus .5 for Dunn…and u have 1 million left over…
am i missing something or is Pavano going to be playing for minimum wage next year…?
Buck was going to be signed either way. That money doesn’t count
lmao – so ur saying that if the marlins found no one to take on ugglas 9 mil
– they were going to increase payroll…u know there are like almost 10
other catchers on the market u could’ve had for a fraction of the committed
dollars…
lmao – so ur saying that if the marlins found no one to take on ugglas 9 mil
– they were going to increase payroll…u know there are like almost 10
other catchers on the market u could’ve had for a fraction of the committed
dollars…
Buck was going to be signed either way. That money doesn’t count