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Heyman On Pujols, Fielder, Mets, White Sox

By Ben Nicholson-Smith | October 14, 2011 at 10:39am CDT

Albert Pujols' impressive postseason performance has increased his free agent stock, Jon Heyman writes at SI.com. Some say the Cardinals won't improve their offer from nine-years and a bit more than $200MM, but their postseason success may help their chances of re-signing the three-time MVP. Here are the details and more of Heyman's notes from around the league:

  • MLB executives tell Heyman that they expect Pujols to sign for more than Prince Fielder despite Fielder's youth (he's four years younger than Pujols).
  • Heyman's sources generally expect Pujols to stay in St. Louis, but predicting Fielder's next team is much more difficult.
  • Some of Heyman's sources expect Fielder to sign a deal similar to Adrian Gonzalez's seven-year, $154MM extension. I don't think it's a great comp, since Gonzalez didn't sign his deal on the open market.
  • Heyman reports (on Twitter) that the Mets have hired former A's manager Bob Geren as their bench coach. Interestingly, the A's hired manager Bob Melvin after a stint with the Mets.
  • The White Sox didn't seriously consider anyone other than Robin Ventura once they decided they wanted the former third baseman to be their next manager.
  • Francisco Rodriguez told Heyman that he'd like a three-year deal.
  • The Pirates are looking for starting pitching. It appears that they'll decline Paul Maholm's option for 2012.
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  1. Eduardo Medina

    14 years ago

    Good Luck with the three year deal K-Rod…

    Reply
    • rockfordone

      14 years ago

      K-Rod look for a 1 year if your luckly – not many 10M setup men – your closing days are over.

      Reply
      • stl_cards16

        14 years ago

        The guy can still pitch. He doesn’t have to worry about getting a contract. He has made the Brewers bullpen very good.

        Reply
      • SunsetStripper

        14 years ago

        I disagree.  He’ll find a closing job somewhere.  The Mets, Orioles, Red Sox, Rays, Blue Jays, Twins, Marlins, and Reds could all be looking for a closer if the price is right.  KRod could get 2/16 imo.

        Reply
  2. Matt

    14 years ago

    I don’t know if I’ve ever seen a more self-entitled player than K-Rod.  He sets the record for one of the most widely-known to be useless statistics and suddenly he thinks he is going to the hall of fame.  He complains on a PLAYOFF BOUND team after being traded from the Mets about not finishing games.  Who cares whether or not they said that to you when you were traded, you’re actually ON a playoff team WINNING games with a closer who just refuses to blow the lead.  Sounds like he’d be a perfect match for fried chicken and beer in the red sox clubhouse.

    Reply
    • A

      14 years ago

      I’m not saying I agree with the way he did things, but not getting save opportunities took money out of his family’s pockets. I know I’d react in the same way, probably not as publicly though.

      Reply
      • Matt

        14 years ago

        Yeah, because there’s a real difference between him now and those 5 – 10 saves he missed out.  He’s not going to lose money over it, everyone knows he has the track record of a closer.  If he had a problem with the way the team was being run, he should have kept it in the clubhouse.

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        • A

          14 years ago

          I can see everybody’s side on this. I withdraw my challenge.

          Reply
      • timmytwoshoezzz

        14 years ago

        nope, his lack of saves cost him nothing.  Teams know he can close, and has done it successfully in the past.  Teams want to know how he pitched, now when.  Besides, what was more impressive last night, K-Rod facing Pujols, Holliday, and Freese or Axford against the bottom of the order? 

        K-Rod cost himself millions by beating up his inlaws and being a ginormous pain in the butt.  He has no right to complain about not getting save opps on a contender.

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        • FamousGrouse

          14 years ago

          Agree on this–the non baseball issues are far more damaging to his potential income.

          Reply
      • Shu13

        14 years ago

        I disagree w/ taking $$ out of his pocket…IF he locks down the 8th and is a team player then he wouldn’t lose out on anything BUT if he struggles in the 8th and talks sh1t about wanting to close then that would take $$ out of his pocket…..HIS OWN ACTIONS are the only thing that will lighten his wallet NOT what inning he pitches….

        Reply
        • Jon Stark

          14 years ago

          ya, that is really the relevant point. Going public with your discontent is going to cause teams to shy away come FA. Nobody likes a cancer.

          Reply
        • Pete 12

          14 years ago

          How much did the Yanks just pay Soriano to be an 8th inning guy? Exactly.

          Reply
          • Alex 18

            14 years ago

            The Yanks paid Soriano to be closer-in-waiting, Rivera’s retiring at the end of 2012.

            Reply
            • Pete 12

              14 years ago

              haha who believes that, seriously. dude is gunna pitch til he’s 50.

              Reply
            • SunsetStripper

              14 years ago

              Closer-in-waiting for two years? Soriano is only under contract for 3.  He was signed to set up and also for insurance in case Rivera goes down. 

              Reply
  3. Alex 18

    14 years ago

    With the departure of Prince Fielder from Milwaukee and the return of Adam Wainwright, the Cards will be the team to beat in the NL Central once again in 2012. I can’t see Pujols going anywhere else, especially because he wants to win.

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    • rockfordone

      14 years ago

      I think Fielder will be back in Milwaukee. That being said – 2012 is a two team race maybe the Reds in there. But don’t forget Cubs have Theo. Money promises had to be made for him to come there.

      Reply
      • Alex 18

        14 years ago

        With Braun’s extension, the Brewers won’t be able to give Prince much more than what he’s making now, not if they want to improve their team in other areas. I think he’ll find a surprise buyer; hell, it could even be Theo and the Cubs.

        Reply
        • cookmeister

          14 years ago

          Braun’s extension doesn’t kick in until 2016, so there is some wiggle room at least for the first part of a potential Fielder deal

          Reply
          • SunsetStripper

            14 years ago

            Stop it.  Your just setting yourself up for a big disappointment. 

            Reply
      • start_wearing_purple

        14 years ago

        Cubs are not a competitive team currently. I think Theo can change them but I give it three years before any sustainable result. It’s still be a race between the Cards and Brewers with whatever surprises the Reds and Pirates can come up with.

        Reply
        • Sean Matrai

          14 years ago

          Theos Knowlege and the Cubs money ,give it one year

          Reply
          • Sean Matrai

            14 years ago

            then they will make the NLCS then have a sload of bad contracts

            Reply
      • SunsetStripper

        14 years ago

        Prince isn’t coming back to Milwaukee.  I wish people would get this out of their head.  Deal with it, he’s gone.

        Reply
        • Sean Matrai

          14 years ago

          I think he would if the Brewers won the WS. The Brewers future is cooked if they dont get Fielder, they will also lose Greinke next year

          Reply
          • angryredmenace

            14 years ago

            The Brewers could have won the World Series, The Superbowl, The Kentucky Derby,The Miss Universe and Miss USA pageants and Prince still wouldn’t be coming back.Money Talks, and The Brewers are  deaf/mutes.

            Reply
  4. chico65

    14 years ago

    More sound management tactics by the White Sox, I see.

    Reply
  5. pageian

    14 years ago

    Hmm, so Magglio Ordonez doesn’t think the ankle injury is going to threaten his career?  I suppose if age, declining talent and a large salary aren’t threatening his career then the ankle probably won’t either.

    Reply
    • Pete 12

      14 years ago

      If Hideki Matsui can get a job, Magglio Ordonez should be able to get one.

      Reply
      • TheHotCorner 2

        14 years ago

        Tell that to Jermaine Dye.

        Reply
        • cookmeister

          14 years ago

          That was his fault wasn’t it?  Teams just weren’t offering quite enough for him

          Reply
          • Pete 12

            14 years ago

            No one wanted to give Kenny Lofton $6MM that was really weird too. He was good in his last season.

            Reply
  6. bmoneyy20

    14 years ago

    if the cubs can have a quick turn around with dusty and lou i dont see why people are saying 2,or 3  years. the cubs have huge crappy contracts coming of the books and the fa pitching class a year from now is great. i know most of the young talent is in the low minors but guys like zych, jackson should be up quick. you make couple decent trades, signings, and a new manager; its going to be an addition by subtraction offseason.  looking forward to good baseball being played on the northside, i havent saw it in a couple years.

    Reply
    • dc21892

      14 years ago

      Theo is most likely going to be developing from within and focusing on the draft before he goes and shells out megadeals.

      Reply
  7. Fangaffes

    14 years ago

    “Some of Heyman’s sources expect Fielder to sign a deal similar to Adrian Gonzalez’s seven-year, $154MM extension. I don’t think it’s a great comp, since Gonzalez didn’t sign his deal on the open market.”

    On the other hand, Adrian will still be able to bend over and pick up grounders at the end of seven years.

    Reply
    • Pete 12

      14 years ago

      Agreed, have people already forgotten the Travis Hafner deal? Hafner is absolutely Prince Fielders best comp. An injury waiting to happen.

      Reply
      • inleylandwetrust

        14 years ago

        Games played for Hafner before his big injury:

        ’04: 140
        ’05: 137
        ’06: 129
        ’07: 152

        Games played for Fielder:
        ’06: 157
        ’07: 158
        ’08: 159
        ’09: 162
        ’10: 161
        ’11: 162

        How exactly is this “absolutely” his best comparison? It’s not like Hafner was an iron man going out and playing every single day before he hit his big string of injuries. There is no reason to think Fielder is “an injury waiting to happen” simply because he is a larger person.

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        • Pete 12

          14 years ago

          Can you run off a list of all the 5’10” 300 lb MLB players throughout history? Its Fielder, Hack Wilson and a bunch of cups of coffee. Ok, I see your point that he might be a freak of nature, but generally speaking mens bodies & their metabolism in their 20s are vastly different in their 30s (see Jones, Andruw) and it wouldnt surprise me in the slightest if Prince’s career was over by age 35 or earlier. You can’t be that big and play 9 innings every day. Something will break eventually. 

          Reply
  8. SpeedS28

    14 years ago

    If Prince wants to be a champion he will resign with Milwaukee. If he wants to wait 8 more years for a chance at a World Series he should sign with the Cubs. He will be loved forever he stays with Milwaukee, otherwise he will be treated like LeBron. I think there is too much pressure to join a new club and succeed especially since his big suitors seem like perennial losers. 

    Reply
    • angryredmenace

      14 years ago

      You are making two big unproven assumptions;One that whoever signs Prince will not contend over the course of his contract and  that The Brewers will be contenders for the forseeable future.

      Reply
  9. Joey Doughnuts

    14 years ago

    The White Sox brass decided they wanted a manager based on his former playing position, and not managerial experience? HOW. DUMB. Oh my god. I mean, I’m not completely against Ventura as the manager, but that is an AWFUL AWFUL thought process. 

    Reply
    • angryredmenace

      14 years ago

      You do know they had four winning season, went to the playoff twice,and won their first won series in nearly a century with that same philosophy,right? Lets not make it sound like it will be the end of the world before Robbie ever sits on the bench.

      Reply
  10. Sean Matrai

    14 years ago

    Maholm wouldnt be a bad option for the Mets

    Reply

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