Many people around the industry are skeptical about whether the Marlins are sincere about their intent to go all-in on free agents this offseason, says Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports. However, manager Ozzie Guillen wants to assure any doubters that the Marlins are "dead serious" about making a splash.
“This is for real,” Guillen told Rosenthal. “I don’t think this is a marketing thing. This is what [the Marlins] want. They’re trying to improve as quickly as they can…. It’s not to show, ‘We’re trying, but we’re not going to do anything.’”
Rosenthal confirms yesterday's report that the Marlins offered Albert Pujols a nine-year contract. While he's not sure about the dollar amount, he hears it's "substantial." Joe Capozzi of the Palm Beach Post reported this afternoon that the total amount of the offer is under $200MM.
The Marlins have also extended formal offers to Jose Reyes, Mark Buehrle, and Ryan Madson, according to Rosenthal. Considering how many players the Marlins are pursuing, the team is prepared to increase its payroll significantly for 2012. According to Juan C. Rodriguez of the Sun Sentinel (Twitter link), club president David Samson said today that he doesn't expect player salaries to exceed $100MM next season, but "you never know."
pretty sure that actually means ozzie threatened to kill each of them if they didn’t sign
and that surprises you? haha
i don’t think it was a question as to whether or not they were serious. What was causing them to be serious is the real question. Ozzie’s mind games? Drugs?
“Please believe me! Please believe me!”
Right? Nothing like making an offer for less than what has already been widely reported as being on the table from other teams to show that you’re serious (e.g. Pujols).
Like Ozzie would know…What he doesn’t realize yet is he will have less influence over the Marlins front office than he did in Chicago…just a matter of time until he gets in a fight with the owner
Dead serious about 9 yrs and UNDER 200 mill? I hearby offer Pujols 10 year at 2 bucks a year to hit tball in my backyard.
DEADLY Serious!!
The Marlins and their pursuit of free agents have officially become more annoying than the Yankees and Red Sox ever were… Bll Veeck couldn’t even dream this stuff up. Go away Miami.
You go away, we’re finally trying to make a splash and you go and compare us to the Yanks and BoSox? wow
Because this approach obviously worked so well for that other Miami team…
ummmm…you do know that other Miami team was two games away from a championship right? I’m figuring that would be a markedly large improvement from last season’s record Einstein.
Whatever you have to do to tell yourself that was a good idea. Good luck getting those 3, 4, 5, 6 championships those clowns predicted.
Hater! You know you’re a hater when you hate on a team on the comment board for a website that covers a completely different sport.
You know you have no argument when you use “hater” three times in a two line post.
In case you weren’t able to read between the “haters”, my argument is that this isn’t a basketball forum. MLB trade rumors, remember?
so why are you asking people about the languages they speak? This isn’t LINGUAL Trade Rumors.
Well, I hate your avatar. So, tigers22 isn’t the only hater in the house.
According to the Marlins, none of their fans speak English, how’d you learn so quickly.
Actually I speak English, Spanish, Mandarin Chinese, and Portuguese. How many languages do you speak?
And here’s your medal…
I don’t need a medal I’m just tired of people stereotyping Hispanics and people from Miami as uneducated or unable to speak English. That’s just ignorant.
i speak native american, japanese, german, french, and russian, but dont speak english. Who are you again?
bro how good are the Pistons? oh wait.
2 away from a ring in their first year together, yeah definitely a failed project. scrap it boys, lets just go home.
Who will they trade Gaby Sanchez to? The Cubs, Pirates, Indians and Dodgers might be interested.
Heck, why not just throw Sanchez and all the prospects in the organization into a trade with New York for Alex Rodriguez, and take on that payroll while they are at it, he can play Third Base and Hanley Ramirez can play Second. What’s another 25 million a season when they are already convinced that their new stadium and Spanish speaking infielders are going to draw 75,000 fans a night. Hey, lets just trade the Miami Dolphins to Los Angeles for for Matt Kemp and Clayton Kershaw? LA needs a football team right? Money must grow on Palm Trees in Miami.
The Brewers could possibly be interested if they lose Prince.
Seems to me that the last time Ozzie managed a team that went “all in” it didn’t exactly work out the way it was envisioned…
Ozzie is a clown! Unprofessional. What has he done lately other than please the media scums.
This Miami Manager job is just temporary, once Chavez finally kicks off in Venezuela, Ozzie will be the first to apply for that one.
I say the most the Marlins end up with is Chen and Furcal.
Where’s Furcal gonna play? Because I sure as hell don’t think he’s gonna play SS. So is he gonna play CF? 3B? I honestly would be fine with getting Chen, though.
“It’s not to show, ‘We’re trying, but we’re not going to do anything.’”
Wait….am I the only person confused by that statement?
i said the same thing!!!
What’s to be confused about? He’s saying that all this isn’t for show and that they aren’t just trying to create a buzz with no intention of acting on it. Makes sense to me.
Hey man, take it easy on him. Dude had one too many hits to the noggin’.
If you read it in Ozzie’s voice, then yes.
hahaha or listened to Ozzie trying to say it in english
Everybody wants to be the first guy to sign a large contract with Miami so they can be traded to Milwaukee or Minnesota in 3 years. They remind me of some of those Mets teams that tried to create a championship out of free agents, and signed Mo Vaughn to play first base. Team chemistry is not really something they care about in Miami, Lets sign a 32 year old first baseman until he’s 41 (knowing we’ll trade him in a few years once we ‘establish’ a fan base) and then sign a flashy shortstop with bad legs to play the position of the guy who was our franchise player when we were still the Florida Marlins, and we’ll just move that guy to some other position, who cares what he thinks, we aren’t the Florida Marlins anymore, technically nobody was here first.
I have yet to understand why everyone is not liking giving Albert 8-10 years. I guess once you hit 35 you’re done no matter who you are, even if you’re one of the best players of all-time and you play the least stressful position on the field. Guess it makes perfect sense.
Because your just running up the cost we (STL) have to pay to keep him with all this hot air. Given that in the end, he’s the one that puts his name on the contract, but Miami is really annoying the heck out of everybody offering contracts to everybody from Jose Reyes to Sidney Crosby that nobody can take seriously, if everybody signed today, your payroll would be 200 million a season.
I find it hilarious that the Marlins have to clarify that they are serious offers…
You couldn’t pay me enough to wear those new uniforms they have. How can you take a team seriously with a logo like that?
You say that now, but I bet they can get you even for the league minimum.
Serious offer is serious because Ozzie said so.
Samson never knows. He always seems so blissfully unaware. What, I wasn’t supposed to say that on the radio?
It boggles the mind how he’s managed to hold an executive position on a baseball team for so long, following Loria from Montreal to Miami. Maybe he has some dirt on Loria we don’t know about…
Even if there is no intent of signing any of these players (which I think is false), their goal was achieved because they sure have created a huge buzz around the whole franchise these last few weeks and have really re-energized/energized an entire fanbase.
Its like “hope and change” all over again, and in the end, it will be the same old Florida Marlins in a different ballpark, they bought a World Series in 1997, but you can’t buy a fan base,
did we also “buy” one in 2003? you’re such a hater dude, hop off.
No, actually you didn’t buy one in 2003, you just traded away the future following 2003 because they didn’t want to spend any money back then, they just wanted to complain about a football stadium.
There were 12 teams in 2011 above $100 millions in payroll and the marlins have yet to eclipse the $61 million mark. so my questions is why doesn’t anyone else claim that the yankees, phillies, red sox, angels, white sox, cubs, mets, giants, twins, tigers, cardinals, dodgers were trying to buy a world series? and now that the new miami marlins try to spend, the money that they are now able to spend cause they dont have to rent anymore, its all because they are trying to buy another championship?!? give me a break.
Because if the Marlins weren’t serious, he be saying, “It’s all a sham! We’re just busting your balls!”
On our news program this evening here in St. louis it has been reported that the marlins offer for pujols is 9 years and 225 million…now I usually always get my sports info here on mlbtraderumors but they report the offer is less than 200 million???
Ok let me get this right.
The Marlins have $50 million tied up for 2012 in the guaranteed contracts of 6 players.
They have another 9 players that will make an estimated $36 million in arbitration if they are all signed.
Pujols, Reyes and Madson or Buehrle will add another $45+ million to the payroll.
Thats 18 players, so add another 7 players at league minimum or a total of $3 million.
$50 million +
$36 million +
$45 million +
$3 million =
$133 million
But the team is saying they wont go over $100 million in payroll?
Something is a little Fishy with their claim that they are truly trying to make a big splash by signing these guys and its not just a marketing thing where they are ‘trying to show We’re trying, but we’re not going to do anything.”
They aren’t going to sign Pujols AND Reyes. It’s one or the other and their plans will change depending on which it is.
Guess facts just get in the way of your optimism.
NEITHER is a fit.
Check this out from a yahoo column by Tim Brown:
“The Miami Marlins aren’t messing around. Their standing offer to Albert Pujols is believed to be for nine years. With a competitive average annual value (say $25 million), that’s $225 million, minimum, and that’s more than what the St. Louis Cardinals are believed to have offered in the spring. Is it possible that two weeks into November Pujols could already have what will be his best offer?”
So according to this source, the Marlins are offering a lot more than 200 million, and a lot more than what the Cards are offering. So the message is clear to St.Louis, pay up or watch your star sign with someone else.