Aramis Ramirez visited the Angels in the past week and a contract offer is likely coming soon from the team, reports Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports. The Angels were one of 4-5 teams with a "serious interest" in Ramirez, according to agent Paul Kinzer; one of these other teams could be the Tigers, who checked in on Ramirez in early November.
Signing Ramirez would give the Angels a nice trade chip in current third baseman Alberto Callaspo, who posted a .288/.366/.375 line last year and can also play second. Los Angeles could have a wealth of infield depth with Callaspo, Maicer Izturis and whomever doesn't get the bulk of playing time at first base between Mark Trumbo and Kendrys Morales.
Also from Rosenthal/Morosi, the Brewers have inquired about Ramirez's services, with the plan of installing Ramirez at third and having a platoon of Mat Gamel and Casey McGehee at first. Milwaukee has shown interest in a number of free agent infielders this winter, including Jimmy Rollins, Jerry Hairston Jr., ex-Braves shortstop Alex Gonzalez and possibly Japanese import Hiroyuki Nakajima. Sources tell Rosenthal and Morosi that the Brewers aren't interested in Jose Reyes at his current asking price.
Worst thing that can happen is he’ll say no.
Worst thing is he’ll say “YES”. No, we do not need another Gary Matthews Jr, for Heaven’s sake!
Not even close to that. The Angels actually have a table setting at the top of the order since Bourjos will be leading off. If the Halos sign A-Ram then that takes pressure off what to do with Abreu. He can just sit in the 2 hole with his patience and his surprising ability to steal bases and take the extra base. The Cubs didn’t have that at all. With the terrible table setting Chicago had, I can’t believe A-Ram still managed 93 RBI.
Bourjos will not lead off unless he hits well in spring training
Yet I have my reservations about his hability, he’s likely to have at least a .280/.350/.500 line, which is an improvement, at least in terms of power, from what we have.
I was talking about his attitude off the lines. If anything comes up to his mind, he may mess um the locker room… Don’t you recall a DH/1B called Shea Hillenbrand?
Relax, Reagins is gone.
Ramirez is by no means Gary Matthews Jr.
so whats the offer you guys would think?
Aram would provide us with power, not my personal top move, but if it helps us win a championship; I’m all for it.
Takes a lot of pressure off Scioscia when deciding what to do with Abreu.
I hope if A-ram signs..That they sign Kuroda for 1 yr.. Then they trade Abreu and Alberto in a package for some pen help
Please do not pay this guy to much money!! Hes old!
*other team signs ramirez*
“angels say they never really wanted aramis ramirez”
Seriously, if they even GET their bid in this time, it’ll be an improvement from last off-season.
Sincerely,
Carl “I Never Heard From The Angels” Crawford
we have a GM with a brain this year… and probably not much competition for Ramirez. chances are, we’ll get a bid in this time.
Think 2/25 with club or mutual option for 3rd year gets it done?
too much
As an Angels fan, I think that’s a fair deal.
3/63
Oh wait, Reagins is gone
3/45 is what gets it done
way too much
don’t really want. i’d rather have CJ Wilson and Callaspo at 3B
Can they afford both?
nope, only have 10-20MM to play with
If that were really accurate they wouldn’t even be talking to A-Ram, and maybe not even Wilson.
Matt Garza (the #4 starter), Chris Ianetta (already acquired the catcher), Frank Francisco (the much needed reliever), and Wilson Betemit (for IF depth) is what they’d be going for all the way if Dipito only had $10-$20 million to work with.
Baseball-reference.com projects the 2012 payroll (with Weaver’s extension kicking in + other contracts + arbitration) to be around $135 million.
I think $140 million may be part of Arte’s PR strategy.
They only need a #4 pitcher, they might go after Buerhle or Oswalt for cheaper money than what Wilson wants.
They can Afford A-ram and Kuroda..
Why are you so in love with Kuroda. There have been no evidence that there is any mutual interest and Kuroda basically already said LA or Japan. And no matter how much you love Arte and friends, LA does not mean the Angels.
I ain’t in love with Kuroda he just a beast for cheap..And Also Dodgers have made it clear they won’t re-sign Kuroda..To much money for them and besides they signed Chris already…AND Angels are interested in Kuroda..Go to Angels site and it tells you. I aint the only one that love him..And why wouldn’t Kuroda want to sign with us super close to home and still gets to see his buddies on and off the field..Its either LAA or Japan..And for Angels Its either Kuroda or Harang..and I prefer Kuroda coz yes im in LOVE with him =)
Are you Lyle Spencer’s son? I suggest not reading into much of what he claims the Angels have interest in.
Ya i am.. And my dad didn’t say that he just wrote down what Jerry said =)
over pay for Aram or over pay CJ. We only need a 4/5 starter, so I’ll pass on CJ.
I hope its 14M or less 15M per yr max… He wouldn’t even be 3B he would be DH
i hope its two years with a club (or mutual) option
Headline: Should be Dipoto Has No Clue!
hell Ya!
3 x 14 will definitely get it done. i think 2+1 yr club option x 12 is fair and what the angels would offer. after 2012, he can be used partially at dh as well.
Probably 3/37.
Dipoto looks like he might be stockpiling infielders now. He has to have some trades in mind for pitching if he signs ARAM. What would a package of Callaspo or Izturis plus Conger bring us in terms of pitching? Are the Braves a fit as they have a ton of pitching surplus?
Conger is the catcher when he’s ready. His road split was pretty good, they won’t let him go so soon.
IF this move gets made (and i don’t really see it happening) there would be trades coming after that with Izzy and Callaspo becoming expendable, and hopefully we can get bull pen help with those trades. I also don’t think he’d spend a whole heck of a lot of time at DH, there are a lot of people that need to get ABs there, and IF (big if) Kendrys is able to come back to be a serviceable 70-80% of what he used to be, all of his ABs would be at DH to not put lateral stress on his ankle…
Angels need some middle of the order batters. Aram will help. Hunter, Abreu, Trumbo are good but they need someone that makes you go.. ooh he’s batting 3rd or cleanup. niceee. Hopefully Morales comes back healthy and with a solid pitching staff, Angels could definitely make the playoffs and possibly contend for a CHIP
it says mcgee/gamel at 1st, is that just in case no fielder, or have they given up
It will probably be 4 years $56-$60 offer
Callaspo would look really nice at 2B for the Jays.
Callaspo would probably hit 20 HR up there too. Great addition if TOR can make a deal.
well below average defensively at second
Anyone kind of missing Reagins right now?
.218/.248/.412 VW NOPE!!!
Landed Haren, extended Weaver, dropped Lackey and dodged a bullet with Crawford. Yes he got Wells for Nap but Wells isn’t done and Nap will never have that season again.
Don’t give Reagins credit for Weaver, Lackey wanted out, dodged Crawford, but missed on Beltre. Looking at VW’s stats makes me depressed knowing he’s gonna make 21MM. I’m no baseball wiz, But that deal was just BS!!! Don’t get me wrong, I didn’t like Nap. and so I don’t dwell on what we gave up. I just think Reagins is a retard for acquiring VW. Aram is consistent, he’s on the better side of 35, and talk is 9MM for 2/3yrs. Plus we get some trade bait for Callaspo.
Not your money and Wells put up similar numbers that Nap tends to put up during a season with the Angels. Yes, it screws the Angels financials for several years but Arte has the money to change that. Arte is worth about 8m less than the Steinbreners(don’t care to know how to spell this) so if he really wanted to win, he should spend more.
isn’t a big bat third priority right now? SP and RP should be taken care of first…
callaspo would be good for the cardinals. they have no one at 2nd right now. plus they have a decent bullpen they could offer out of. lance lynn is a good arm who is actually a decent starter.
callaspo for freeze
This is terrible news for Angel fans. Unless Ramirez is coming on the cheap (say $10m/year) then this will NOT be money well spent. We have bigger needs in the bullpen and in the rotation.
Ramirez can hit the long ball but remember that he gives back soooo much when it comes to defense and baserunning. He’s an upgrade over Callaspo but not by a wide margin and when you factor in cost Callaspo is the better value. If Callaspo is flipped for a starter or bullpen arm that is pre-arb then maybe this would make some sense.
However, I’m just not that interested in bringing in talent that is on the downside of their careers. Wells, Hunter, Abreu, and possibly Ramirez all could be in for major regression in 2012. I’d rather be done with Hunter and Abreu after this year and pass on Ramirez.
if wells regresses any further next year scioscia will have to play him at catcher
a-ram sounds like a good fit for motown can protect miggy if he is in the 5 spot and v-mart if he (ramirez) got put in the 6 spot great upgrade over guillen and inge
3 yrs 33M. get her done
All the Angels need to surpass the Rangers is an effective Aramis Ramirez,a healthy Kendrys Morales, and the “Arrival” of top prospect Mike Trout. Bet the Angels could garner some offense with those 3 guys.
and a bounce back year from Wells. Some BP help and a #5 SP could help too. Trout isn’t ready
So if you guys get Rameriz would Angels fans be apposed to aquiring Soto and Marmol?
We are carrying 4 catchers right now in Mathis, Iannetta, Wilson, and Conger. Can’t really see a move for Soto coming. Of course, if we non-tender or trade Mathis and Wilson, who knows. Pretty clear that DiPoto has some roster changes in mind for this offseason though.
Say NOOOOOOO
good luck with this guys. he’s pretty lazy and chooses when he’s interested. his D is avg at best. i’m rooting for aramis to sign with you guys just because i’d like to see what scioscia will do with him. hopefully you guys can light a fire under him, cuz this town was pretty tired of seeing him whiff at liners right at him.
Oh yes, god yes, let’s make this line-up even older.
I think the White Sox released Dallas McPherson… we could just sign him! what could go wrong?
EVERYTHING
No, he signed another minor league contract with them.
well he hit 48 hrs to lead the minors in 2008 with the marlins… the kid is a great minor league player, just can’t seem to do it up in the show…
he wants a multi year contract! not going to happen. maybe a one year deal with incentives and a club option is the cut off point!
for that, i’d take him. much more than that, i’d really rather not. it’ll be interesting to see what DiPoto thinks he’s worth
As in, $4 million a year? If so, that’s a steal. The reality is Ramirez would probably look for something closer to $12 million per year for 2-3 years (though if he got a third year at that kind of money, it’s most likely to be an option year).
haha.. turns down the 1 yr/ 16 million for 3/12…
The Angels are a high market team. They have to overpay for just about every name they sign from here on out. That’s price of being a rich team.
I guess it depends on what you mean by “big money,” but why is it a mistake? The guy posted a .306/.361/.510 line just last year. That OBP would have been 2nd and the SLG would have been 1st (by a mile) on the team last year. He’s also been fairly consistent through his career. He’s not worth $20M by any means but something around $12M-14M per year seems fair.
he’s 33.
I meant bad signings in general. I wouldn’t expect (or hope) to see the Angels to just erratically throw out contracts. My comment didn’t come out right, with responding to his Matthews mention.
NO… High market teams have to overspend because eventually they deplete their farm systems and have to keep outbidding other teams, even themselves, to maintain a winning roster. Teams like the Nationals will over pay for one guy, maybe 2, because a) they already have good talent under club control to build around that player b) to use that player as future trade bait for even more young talent. Overpaying for players is pretty much a requirement to being a high market team.
Name a high market team that doesn’t have an over payed player on their roster.
Agree if they are deciding for a big bat might as well spend everything and go after Prince..I don’t get it unless A-ram signs for 4M per yr..Chances of that
Exactly
FK Aramis! This dude is a p r i c k! The Angels are missing one thing and one thing only.. It’s not another SP or bullpen piece… It’s a LH power bat that will drive in 100 hit 30 HR and bat 300.. Oh, and his 983 OPS isnt bad either.. I’m not talking about a damaged player who wont play in 2012.. I’m talking about FIELDER! He’s a must
I said i agree..Also said if somehow someway in a crazy world Angels culd sign A-ram for 4M or less that it ain’t bad and they wuld still be able to sign Fielder..Helping offense a whole lot
dose not want to follow cecil’s foot steps! who once was an angel
…did you actually watch Chatwood this year?
Also read Halos are already trying to extend him…not sure even THATS great, but we’ll see, eh?
LOL
Of course he did not turn down his 16mm option for next season just to sign for 4mm per year…He’ll probably get somewhere between 11 and 15 million per season for at least two years and maybe a third year or option.