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Central Notes: Royals, Tigers, White Sox, Garza

By Zachary Links | December 4, 2011 at 9:47pm CDT

Here's a look at some items concerning the AL and NL Central..

  • Several Royals officials have told Bob Dutton of the Kansas City Star (via Twitter) that any major roster upgrades will come through trades rather than the free agent market.
  • There's nothing serious between the Tigers and Aramis Ramirez at the moment, a source told Jon Paul Morosi of FOXSports.com (via Twitter).
  • In a deal for John Danks, the White Sox told the Yankees that they want Manny Banuelos and Jesus Montero from the Yankees, tweets Jon Heyman of SI.  Heyman writes that the Sox are obviously not serious about dealing Danks just yet.
  • The Tigers looking harder at the market for No. 5 starters than had been anticipated when the offseason began, tweets Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports.  The club is after a reliever as well.
  • The Cubs told at least one team that it would take an overwhelming offer to even consider trading Matt Garza, tweets Jon Heyman of SI.
  • The Brewers are interested in hearing what it'll take to sign Jimmy Rollins, tweets Tom Haudricourt of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.
  • There's lots of skepticism over Albert Pujols' claim that he is 31 years old, tweets Jon Heyman of SI.  Heyman writes that the slugger may not be able to top the Cardinals' nine-year, $200MM offer if he cannot produce a birth certificate.  
  • Jim Riggleman will accept the Reds' offer to manage their Double-A affiliate, writes Adam Kilgore of The Washington Post.  Earlier today, Heyman reported that Riggleman was offered the position and was likely to accept.
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  1. 0bsessions

    14 years ago

    ”
    Heyman writes that the slugger may not be able to top the Cardinals’ nine-year, $200MM offer if he cannot produce a birth certificate.  ”

    Heyman’s source: Luke Scott.

    Reply
    • cards2WS

      14 years ago

      That was good. 🙂

      Reply
  2. JacksTigers

    14 years ago

    Please, DD. Sign Reyes. Do you want me to beg? Because I WILL beg.

    Reply
    • verlander

      14 years ago

      No. Sign Cepedes/Buerhle.

      Reply
      • JacksTigers

        14 years ago

        I really don’t want Buerhle and while I’d love Cespedes, I’d rather have Reyes. But if Ilitch gets really excited….

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        • verlander

          14 years ago

          Meh. I feel like the only one who doesn’t want Reyes. If you signed Cespedes, you’d probably have money left over for SP and 3B/2B.  Can’t see that with Reyes. Maybe you trade Jhonny for a pitcher, then. idk. 

          I just don’t want Reyes. Boo.

          Reply
          • JacksTigers

            14 years ago

            Then who would be your shortstop? Sign Reyes and Juan Pierre. Trade Young for bullpen help.

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            • verlander

              14 years ago

              I’m sorry, but emphatic NOOOOO to Juan Pierre.

              Jhonny was fine last year. Why does everyone want to get rid of him?

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              • JacksTigers

                14 years ago

                Maybe you trade Jhonny for a pitcher, then. idk. 
                That was a quote from you made less than 45 minutes ago. I say move him to third. You said trade him. How quickly we forget.

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                • verlander

                  14 years ago

                  I know what I said.  Thanks for being condescending, though.

                  You didn’t say anything about moving Jhonny to third, so I assumed you wanted to trade him.

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                  • JacksTigers

                    14 years ago

                    But I said nothing about trading him. You said trading Peralta was an option. Then asked me why I said it. You’re not making any sense.

                    Reply
                    • verlander

                      14 years ago

                      It was a frigging suggestion because I didn’t know what you were suggesting we do with Jhonny. You didn’t say anything about moving him to a different position.

                      Reply
                      • JacksTigers

                        14 years ago

                        Are you mad?

                        Reply
                        • verlander

                          14 years ago

                          You’re annoying.

                          Reply
          • Bob George

            14 years ago

            Hanley Ramirez is likely available now. He’s said before that he won’t move off SS.

            Reply
        • funkytime

          14 years ago

          Yeah, Buerhle and Reyes each sound like they’ll cost around $15 mil a year.  Give me Reyes over Buerhle any day of the week.

          Buerhle is unnecessary.  Reyes is just what we need. 
           

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          • JacksTigers

            14 years ago

            Reyes will cost more like $19MM.

            Reply
            • funkytime

              14 years ago

              At that price I’m not quite as interested.  But I’ve heard 6 years, $90 mil floated about.  And if he would take a bit of a discount to go to a real contender instead of the Marlins, I’d be all over that.

              Reply
              • JacksTigers

                14 years ago

                Assuming that the Marlins 6/111 offer is true, perhaps you can match it. But I wouldn’t go over. If it’s not, then offer 6/102.

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                • verlander

                  14 years ago

                  I wouldn’t offer six years for José Reyes if someone held a gun to my head.

                  Reply
                  • funkytime

                    14 years ago

                    I’d be fine with 6 years as long as they don’t have to go over $17 mil a year.

                    He’s only going to be 34 in 6 years.  The back end of that deal won’t be near as bad as most big free agent deals nowadays.

                    And shortstops that are great offensively and defensively are so damn rare.

                    Reply
                    • verlander

                      14 years ago

                      Sounds like he’ll be getting $18.5 mil per if this reported Marlins deal is true.

                      Reply
  3. GOTIGERS24

    14 years ago

    Please Tigers sign Reyes and Cespedes that would be a great Christmas present.

    Reply
    • JacksTigers

      14 years ago

      You’d have to add $15MM+ to the payroll, but while unlikely, it is possible. Cespedes’ salary would nearly be canceled out by Young leaving. If Ilitch is excited enough, it could happen.

      Reply
    • Tigers2012WS

      14 years ago

      Ya that would be a great Christmas present especially considering that im moving in with my grandma. 

      Reply
    • sam_lammert

      14 years ago

      reyes is a marlin

      Reply
      • sam_lammert

        14 years ago

        my bad, didn’t see the time on the comment

        Reply
  4. Abraham Zapruder

    14 years ago

    Pujols is probably like 34 or 35. He should grab that 9 year offer from the Cards.

    Reply
    • JacksTigers

      14 years ago

      I’m curious where you are getting this. Do you have some proof? Maybe you saw a link with proof that you would like to share with us? Or you are just grabbing for conspiracy out of thin air. You sure did create conspiracy with the JFK video. You just can’t get enough can you, Mr. [Fake] Zapruder.

      Reply
  5. pmc765

    14 years ago

    What? GM’s won’t take Dan Lozano’s word for it?

    Reply
  6. funkytime

    14 years ago

    If the Tigers signed Reyes and all they did after that was trade Delmon Young away for a bag of balls and signed a cheaper option (like Coco Crisp) to replace him, I’d still consider this an EXTREMELY successful off-season.

    Reyes alone would make the Tigers a legitimate World Series contender.  That’s more than you can say about any other player that’s available.  Get it done, Dombrowski.

    Reply
    • slider32

      14 years ago

      If Fielder goes to the Rangers they will be the best team in baseball. Plus they already are better than the Tigers.

      Reply
      • funkytime

        14 years ago

        I don’t see how that relates to anything I said, but thanks for sharing.

        Reply
      • JacksTigers

        14 years ago

        Good for you?

        Reply
      • verlander

        14 years ago

        tl;dr

        Reply
    • Paul Shailor

      14 years ago

      If Reyes is healthy and If he transforms from a selfish pos to a good team player then yes he would make the tigers WS contenders.

      Reply
  7. Nicholas Austin

    14 years ago

    The thing about Pujols is he is an american citizen. Not sure if a lot of you pay much attention or know a lot about immigration in the States, but it is lengthy and in depth process including background checks to verify documents. I find it HIGHLY doubtful that Pujols not only tricked the MLB verification but also the U.S Government. 

    Reply
    • DrHMD

      14 years ago

      Yeah, he’s not the president

      Reply
  8. Royals Fan

    14 years ago

    The birth certificate should be easy to find.  It’s right there in the same room as the President’s…….

    Reply
    • Jon Stark

      14 years ago

      except in the one case there was a reason to doubt (other players with falsified ages and BC’s) where as in the case of the president you have to be absolutely mental to think he was not a US citizen.

      That said, I really think Pujols is probably as old as he claims to be.

      Reply
    • User 4245925809

      14 years ago

      They could both do like Satchel Paige with regards to the location of a birth certificate.. Say that their momma kept it in the family Bible and that the goat at it years ago…

      Reply
  9. Paul Shailor

    14 years ago

    People need to get over Pujols’ age. Some people just look older, I mean look at Greg Oden!

    Reply
    • kevin ritz

      14 years ago

      12in12 #cardinalnation

      Reply
    • jjs91

      14 years ago

      Oden seems to have osteoporosis so he’s probably lying about his age as well. 

      Reply
  10. douger007

    14 years ago

    HOLY COW!  Riggleman to manage Reds double-A team?  I CAN NOT BELIEVE IT!  WOOHOO!  Go Redlegs!!!  OK.  Got that out of my system.

    Reply
    • Bob George

      14 years ago

      You’re excited about the Reds hiring a manager who quit on his players in the middle of the season? I’m shocked Riggleman got another job at any level.

      Reply
      • douger007

        14 years ago

        Uh….not really.  It was a joke, man.  Could actually care less.

        Reply
  11. sam_lammert

    14 years ago

    how bout the tigers trade peralta to the cards for lohse?

    Reply
  12. Jorge Yazpik

    14 years ago

    Vargas, League and Triunfel for Castellanos!!!

    Reply
    • MattCMoore

      14 years ago

      Yea right. Castellanos is our future at 3rd.

      Reply
    • JacksTigers

      14 years ago

      Terrible offer!

      Reply
  13. Matt Manzella

    14 years ago

    You tell ’em Kenny. No more BS trades, we want value! 

    Reply
    • Whowonthe2009WorldSeries

      14 years ago

      There is value and then there is what Kenny Williams just asked for.  Let’s not get ahead of ourselves.

      Reply
  14. danman1202

    14 years ago

    Call Cashman back when you actually want to make a trade, Williams.  

    Reply
  15. User 4245925809

    14 years ago

    Williams is clearly out of his skull thinking he could get just Montero back for Danks, or just wants to keep him in the 1st place. asking for Banuelos on top of Montero just makes him look even more like a maroon.

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    • EL CABALLO 626

      14 years ago

      It’s called asking, not demanding. Its obvious the Yankees won’t give either up for Danks, but many GM’s are known for making stupid trades. Giants trading Zack Wheeler (Giants #2 Prospect coming into the season) for a half season of Beltran. I think Danks can be had for a package of Romine or Betances, along with Noesi and smaller pieces

      Reply
      • Whowonthe2009WorldSeries

        14 years ago

        Yeah, its all part of the negotiation.  Start really high because you can only concede, you can’t go and ask for more.

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        • Joey Doughnuts

          14 years ago

          Exactly. People who actually think Kenny Williams thinks 1 year of Danks is worth Montero + Banuelos are sorely mistaken. It’s a negotiating strategy, not a firm offer that he expects to be accepted.

          Reply
  16. philliesfan136

    14 years ago

    Oh Chicago, you guys are some silly gooses. ;3

    (But seriously, what has gotten into the minds of the White Sox FO?)

    Reply
    • Joey Doughnuts

      14 years ago

      It’s a strategy, not a serious offer.

      Reply
  17. nictonjr

    14 years ago

    You think they would ask for Cervelli and Joba….

    Reply
    • danman1202

      14 years ago

      Which isn’t nearly enough.  Obviously they’d need to find middle ground between asking for the Yankees entire farm system or receiving a bag of baseballs if this trade ever happens.

      Reply
  18. JunKim

    14 years ago

    What’s so difficult? If Yankees think the price is too steep, then just stick to CC-Nova-Hughes-Garcia-AJ, or give ur farm to Gio Gonzalez.  No one is forcing them to pay what Sox deserve. If they don’t like it, then find other alternative. But I think it would be tough to find good pitching for a package centering around Betances.

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