The Athletics are among the teams pursuing the Rangers' Koji Uehara, tweets Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports. The Orioles also remain interested in the right-handed reliever.
Last week, Rosenthal wrote that Texas might be looking to move the 36-year-old to sign a lefty reliever like Mike Gonzalez. Uehara recently used his limited no-trade clause to block a trade that would have sent him to the Blue Jays and is said to be seeking a return to Baltimore.
Here comes the part where JD swindles a division rival.
The A’s don’t really have anything. It’s probably more of a salary dump.
You both are wrong.
If the Rangers had gotten Balfour instead of Uehara, the Rangers might have won the World Series. So the A’s do have something.
Uehara is a decent pitcher, but he gets eaten alive by the better teams. As for JD swindling Beane I doubt it.
As for me I could care less is Uehara comes back to Charm City, if the O’s were to obtain anyone it would be Balfour. However, I don’t think Duquette is going to do anything except sign any and all remaining “Boxcar Willies”
The A’s wouldn’t trade Balfour for Koji, so I don’t see your point.
I’d love for Detroit to look at him. I think we could use one or two more pieces to the bullpen.
yes, this actually makes sense! flip him at the deadline for a decent prospect or two
but we could trade brandon allen for him, kind of like the ziegler trade, or kila ka’aiahue
Why would we want Brandon Allen?
because that’s about what koji is worth when most team’s bullpens are set at this point?
Then they would just keep Koji, of course.
We traded Chris Davis in part for Koji, who’s 2x the player Allen is.
If JD trades Koji to Oakland, you can guarantee Texas will be winning the deal or it doesn’t happen.
or maybe, just maybe, they’ll try to make it a good deal for both sides?
With all the reported interest, if Texas doesn’t like what Oakland offers (such as Brandon Allen, etc.), they’ll talk with someone else.
It’s always been Beane’s MO to not make major trades within the division. And the last few times that the A’s have made a trade with the Rangers, they won those deals. (i.e. Justin Duchscherer and Guillermo Moscoso) The chances that the Rangers win this trade are slim and the possibility of a trade for Uehara is even slimmer than that. Uehara would be somewhat of an impact player in the majors and Beane just doesn’t trade or trade for those types of players within the division.
what interest? a’s and o’s? o’s wouldn’t trade him for any more than the a’s would
It would be nice if everyone could pull off fair trades, but it rarely happens that way.
It was actually a book…then a major motion picture.
Let me know if either of those trades ever touch JD’s Teixiera trade.
Beane turned 4 nobodies into Jermaine Dye. He swindled the White Sox in the Swisher trade and is still reaping the benefits from that trade. 1 trade doesn’t make him a great GM.
It’s everything else that makes JD a great GM. Beane is too. There are alot of good GMs everyone.
my GM can beat up your GM
That should be how trades are done now. Whichever GM loses the fist fight has to “lose the trade”.
Adrian Gonzalez
john danks
Alfonso Soriano
was that john daniels?
Yeah it was one of his 1st trades.
oh right, i looked it up, i thought you meant A-Rod for Soriano, nevermind haha
All of these trades were early in Daniels’ career as the GM. You can’t name anything recent.
ok, koji uehara for chris davis and tommy hunter
Koji is a good reliever. JD can’t do anything about a guy not wanting to be here. Koji just wants to be in B’More. Hunter and Davis weren’t going to amount to anything here.
What did CD do once he was moved?Hunter was at best the 7th starter here so I’ll still take Koji.
Cliff Lee was a pretty bad trade. Giving up that much talent away for only half a season of Lee and ending up with no ring. Pretty bad.
I just don’t see how the Rangers trade Koji to the Orioles after we pulled Hunter and Davis from them. Granted, we made that trade during Texas’s playoff run so the valuation is different than right now, but Texas really got fleeced in that trade.
Not really. Koji was still a solid reliever in Texas. Davis is a AAAA who will never amount to anything and Hunters ceiling is much lower than what Koji is currently at.
I don’t think Davis is very good and I still think the Rangers got hosed. Years of Hunter >>>> a few months of Koji.
I think the point was that the O’s got really good value for a 36 year old pen guy. Hunter probably has the ceiling of a number 3 starter so Hunter for Koji would still have been a good pickup for a rebuilding team. Davis was just the icing on the cake, and who knows fingers crossed Davis can figure the big leagues out.
So Texas’ 7th best starter currently and soon to be 8th best and a player who can’t hit major league pitching (and was injured after the trade) for a good reliever.
why would we want this guy, when we are trying to rebuild!
a few reason: at this point, when team’s bullpens are set, he wouldn’t cost much, if anything.
he’d fill in a spot in the bullpen that would probably be taken by a guy who should be in the rotation (ross, godfrey) which leaves peacock/parker/gray in AAA for a little longer to develop
and we could flip him at the deadline when someone is in desperate need for a bullpen piece for a decent prospect or two
a few reason: at this point, when team’s bullpens are set, he wouldn’t cost much, if anything.
he’d fill in a spot in the bullpen that would probably be taken by a guy who should be in the rotation (ross, godfrey) which leaves peacock/parker/gray in AAA for a little longer to develop
and we could flip him at the deadline when someone is in desperate need for a bullpen piece for a decent prospect or two
They have a 25-man roster they have to fill. And they’re still in need of pitching depth. They could do a whole lot worse than Uehara (who also happens to be under club control through 2014). And there’s also a good chance that he’d be a nice trade candidate at some point.
I like the idea of this. Hopefully something can get worked out. But I wouldn’t count on it really happening.
Uehara always gets crushed by the good teams. That’s why he only made 3
appearances in the playoffs and got lit up every single time he came
out.
Makes sense, thats why he did so well in the Al East, all of those teams are bad.
Yeah and pitching for a team with no shot at the playoffs year in and year out will not help a guy either. No? Once he had his shot at the playoffs he got lit up. Admit it. He’s not as good as people think he is.
I admit that your point makes no sense.
that’s big of you
Baby steps, notsureifsrs, baby steps.
Sometimes, it seems that the A’s post here to help themselves make decisions.
Moneyballing 2.0.
Outsource research and fact gathering duties to a free, opinion message board.
If it sticks, or has minimal interest, there must be something worth “perusing”..
Whether or not Koji “FINALLY COMES BACK TO BALTIMORE”, “IT DOESN’T MATTER”!
Koji is a middle of the road closer, nothing more. The Orioles were under .500 with him and without him. The only thing that would make more than a “DIME BAG” of difference would be Peter Angelos selling the team and someone with new ideas and new blood taking over this franchise.
I hope the A’s get him (Koji) as well as Manny.
Did Brad Pitt suggest this move?
If the A’s can dump Allen on Texas I say go for it. Carter’s expendable, too. It will most likely be a minor league arm or two.
why dump allen
Um, he can’t hit major league pitching? Same thing with Carter. And, neither are in the future plans.
My guess if the team willing to absorb the most salary and is not one of the 4 clubs remaining on his no-trade list will be considered the most attractive trade. If the Rangers still valued him like a top setup man, then they would not be shopping him.
Pitching in Texas was not something he ever wanted to do and I assume the club would rather spend money on Gonzalez, who expressed a desire to return to the team, than on a guy who through multiple media reports wants out.
I’m wondering why you “insist” on putting “quotes” around words that don’t “need” them.
Breaking news
The A’s have decided that they are intrested in everybody nobody else wants
Funny because it’s sadly true. They also have a roster loaded with failed AAAA-types nobody else wants. Half of them are at 1B/DH.
koji would be fine for the rebuild, he takes up a bullpen spot that would be filled by a guy who should be starting, like graham godfrey or tyson ross, and that in turn, would keep a guy like parker or peacock in AAA to develop a little longer
plus we could flip him at the deadline
that would be awesome haha
There is nobody on Oakland’s current roster worth Olt.
There is nobody on Oakland’s current roster worth Olt.
He’s actually not even that good…..
Y’all can convert Koji to a starter and “go for it”.
He will be a nice replacement for Breslow and as you say has no bearing on future plans.
He actually kinda is…
I’d really be interested in hearing you defend that statement.
Mike Adams was better than Balfour though.
Mike Adams was better than Balfour though.
Not at all. There’s plenty of teams interested. If JD doesn’t like what’s offered, he hangs up.
Yea, because he’s obviously better than Moreland/Young, Murphy, Gentry, Borbon, and Torrealba…
Good god yes. Give me Allen over Young, Moreland, Napoli, etc any day!!! /sarcasm
Didn’t you just call someone else’s post delusional…irony.
Only in your delusional mind will that trade ever happen. Why would Texas want that junk in a trade
You should really research what you just said. It takes 10 seconds to look both men up.
People need to stop throwing around the word trolling…it’s over-used.
Olt is too good a trade chip to give to the A’s for a reliever as you all suggest.
“Balfour only would have been available for the package that got Mike Adams.”
Adams was better than balfour, how would Balfour have commanded the same package?
again, what teams outside of the o’s and a’s?
nobody is going to overpay for a 37 year old reliever, least of all teams like oakland and baltimore who have no chance at contention. if other teams dont like whats asked of them, they hang up and sign an FA. didnt the jays already do that??
“Brian Fuentes, Brandon Allen & Jerry Blevins for Koji Uehara & Mike Olt.”
Speaking of massively biased! Womp womp womp
and smith, and penny, and weeks, and sizemore, and DLS, and suzuki, and peacock, and gray, etc
My fault, I didn’t realize you were in the room when the calls were being made.
i’ve already explained this a couple times, but koji is actually perfect for the a’s right now
No, Koji had the Jays on his no-trade list.
The Jays didn’t balk at the Uehara deal. Uehara refused to be traded there. He has 6 teams on his limited no-trade clause, and Toronto was one of them.
And $4M isn’t an overpay. Uehara’s a good reliever. And the Orioles and A’s can easily fit that into their 2012 budgets.
Also, in the case of the A’s (and all low budget teams), they have to spend x-amount every year, in order to meet revenue sharing requirements. And the A’s need to spend another $5M, or so, to get to “a little over $50 million,” which is how much the owner said they planned to spend on the 2012 roster.
It’s not me that’s touting Daniels.
Erlin and Weiland are really good, but they were flyball pitchers. They’ll do good in SD. Bigger park, less competition, NL.
true, but point is, its not difficult for other teams to find other trade or FA targets.
its not like daniels is sitting back in his boardroom with the last diamond in the world and hundreds of buyers lined up outside his door.
he’s sitting back there with a 37 year old reliever that he neither wants nor needs, who is coming off a horrid postseason where he wasnt even on the roster for the WS. now koji is historically a good reliever, but i dont think he’s wanted enough that daniels can basically mandate that he wins any trade for him.
I agree, that’s why i’m on-board with just keeping Koji.
I wonder what teams are involved on koji’s no trade clause.
He’s 36.
haha i agree with you snoochies
he’s 6’1” (why are we doing this?)
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Nobody on the A’s team? That is funny. The a’s could have had Olt but were not willing to trade a top starter for him and a few prospects. Beane doesn’t like trading in the same league unless he gets a deal he can’t pass up. Uehara for Allen would be the most likely deal because the rangers need a 1b in AAA in case of injury.
Allen’s actually out of options, and can’t be sent back to the minors unless he cleared waivers.
That’s probably the main reason they’ve reportedly been shopping him. It’s gonna be really hard for them to find a suitor unless someone’s everyday 1B goes down in spring training.
“plus we could flip him at the deadline”
A no-trade clause makes that kind of tough.
Be kind. Beane has convinced a small contingent of A’s fans that Allen, Kila, Barton, Carter, et. al. are the second coming of the 1927 Yankees.
Not necessarily. His no-trade clause is limited. There are only 6 teams that he can block a trade to.
Of course, the A’s could very easily be one of those 6 teams, and this might all be moot.
i have the a’s rotation as mccarthy, colon, braden, ross/godfrey/milone/e. gonzalez
the AAA rotation will be parker, peacock, gray, banwart, c. hernandez
parker and gray haven’t pitched in AAA, with parker only getting a few appearances in the MLB. Parker needs a little more seasoning to regain form from TJS, Gray needs a little more seasoning since he was just drafted last year. From what i’ve read, Peacock just needs to work on his changeup a little more, so hopefully he’s in AAA to work on that
I say Milone opens the season in AAA. Multiple reasons for that to be his best Opening Day starting point.
I want to see none of the prospect pitchers until July at the earliest.
(Go sign Rich Harden, A’s. Do it.).
milone doesn’t have anything left to prove in AAA though, he’s absolutely ready to start in the bigs.
only reason to start him in AAA is to start his arb. clock later.
and i agree, sign rich harden or trade for mcclellan!
Yeah but he was just asking if any of the trades that Beane made are close to the Mark Texiera trade and I’m just giving him an example.