Friday night linkage..
- Several scouts not affiliated with the Padres now regard Cory Luebke as the team's best starter, writes Tom Krasovic of Inside The Padres. Luebke agreed to a sizable extension with the club earlier this evening.
- Red Sox CEO Larry Lucchino said today that GM Ben Cherington is "exploring" the team's options in regards to their compensation package for Theo Epstein, writes Gordon Edes of ESPNBoston.com. Boston would like to receive a different player from the Cubs after the injury suffered by Chris Carpenter.
- Steve Dilbeck of the Los Angeles Times writes that the public will ultimately pay for the Dodgers' massive sale price.
- Veteran infielder Cesar Izturis is relieved to have made the cut with the Brewers, writes MLB.com's Adam McCalvy.
Cesar Ceases the cut!
Face it Lucchino, karma caught up with you. Unfortunately you bad karma bit Carpenter in the elbow and lost him at least the 2012 season, but its still YOUR bad karma.
There is NOTHING you can do unless you can prove the Cubs knew the elbow was injured before you got him.
I was born breathing Pinstripes and even I’m not enjoying this melodrama as much as you are.
I must not be sadistic enough.
Maybe Lucchino would be onto something if Carpenter never pitched at all in Spring Training for the Sox, but he did. Suck it up and be a man about it.
From the Edes article – “Lucchino said ‘We assume everyone acted in good faith.'”
That doesn’t sound like someone who thinks the other team did something wrong, or, by extension, someone who thinks they have recourse with the other team, so I really have no idea what they are attempting to accomplish at this point.
All I can think of is that it seems like Boston was never happy getting Carpenter, and this is just giving them another reason to be annoyed. But really, they lost all leverage when they let Epstein go without FIRST confirming compensation. I’m annoyed too that all we got was a now-injured relief arm, but there’s nothing we can do about it so they need to move on.
Just a random by the by, anyone else starting to get irrationally optimistic for Boston’s year? Cause I sure am.
I think they got better compensation than most people expected them to (even after hearing about Carpenter’s surgery), but you’re right that they don’t seem to be happy about it (particularly Lucchino).
I’m always optimistic about the Red Sox, but I don’t think I’m ever irrationally so. Obviously if you expect some absurd win total you are being irrationally optimistic, but there really is good reason to be optimistic about this team despite what the detractors (both Red Sox fans and non Red Sox fans) would have you believe.
Carpenter still had a major upside and still does after the surgery. It’s not like they were going to get one of the few crown jewels the cubs had anyway and am sort of glad they didn’t end up with someone like Vitters, who probably won’t end up as being more than a role player at best at the MLB level and Boston can sign more Repco/Ciriaco’s of the world to fill the AAAA type void that every team seems to fill their AAA teams up with.
I was glad they at least selected a player with a major upside, even one who was 26YO and needed probably a new organization and pitching coaches to work with.
You really should double check those links guys. They may have the same name, but the two Chris Carpenters are nothing alike so it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to tell them apart.
Going strictly by the links, as you suggest, tells me that we are, in fact, talking about the injured Cardinal’s ace Chris Carpenter.
Ironic mockery is ironic.
The ironic mockery is that I was mocking MLBTR for mis-linking, not the commenters.
Larry is just embarassing himself and the organization at this point with this whole “weighing their options” nonsense. The Red Sox PICKED Carpenter from a list of eligible prospects and had full access to his medicals. It’s not like the Cubs tried to “sell” him to them knowing he was hurt. It was an unlucky turn of events. He probably wasn’t going to contribute to the team this year anyways. MOVE ON. If I have to read any more about it I’m gonna kill myself.
Article links to the wrong Carpenter’s B-R page, fwiw.
Boston should have never expected much anyways. They got a player for a GM andnow they should be happy.
no team should be able to even negotiate with another teams employees.the compensation thing is the leagues way of stopping it. the red sox should have gotten a lot more than carpenter
If I was a Sox fan, I’d already be questioning the leadership of Cherington.
What does Cherington have to do with it?
No, they shouldn’t have. I’ve got a feeling this isn’t the real Jed Hoyer.
I guess I now know why they are called bawwwwwston.
Exploring the team’s options? I can help you out there, Larry.
Your options are to suck it up, or cry about it.
See how much time I saved you? I’d be an amazing front-office addition don’t you think?
I’m not sure I understand the Red Sox position. Apparently they looked at Carpenter’s medical records and examined him before finalizing the deal. If Bud allows (or mandates) this, do the Yankees get a do-over on the Montero for Pineda deal, because apparently Pineda needs an MRI on his shoulder? This sort of stuff happens quite a lot. It’s really unfortunate. You hate to see anyone injured-but absent some gross cover-up, I think there’s no way that you can do transaction with a ninety day money back guarantee.
“I think there’s no way that you can do transaction with a ninety day money back guarantee.”
They can always litigate, take a page out of the union handbook.. maybe get Robert Shapiro, since Johnnie Cochrane isn’t taking calls anymore.
I like that idea. Maybe we extend that to the games themselves when a call doesn’t go their way. Instead of having just instant replay, you have a judge as well as on-site lawyers. The parties would prepare briefs, make arguments, etc. Maybe a little open-air courtroom down the left field line?
Maybe Jackie Chiles will take the case?
It was a promotion, there never should have been any compensation to begin with. Karma for Lucchino.