The Red Sox have placed Adrian Gonzalez on trade waivers, a source tells Sean McAdam of CSNNE.com (via Twitter). A player being placed on trade waivers does not necessarily mean that he will be traded, but the first baseman could potentially draw interest from other clubs.
At one point this summer, the Dodgers inquired on the slugger, though its not clear how receptive the Red Sox were to the interest. Ned Colletti & Co. reportedly offered pieces that could help Boston in the future, though the Dodgers' farm system isn't tremendously deep.
Gonzalez's seven-year contract extension calls for him to make $4.82MM for the remainder of 2012 ($21MM total), $21MM annually through 2016, and $21.5MM in '17 and '18. The veteran also holds a partial no-trade clause.
They aren’t trading Gonzalez; how would that make any sense at all?
Why not. Rebuild around the haul of prospects plus cap relief. He has been surronded by controversy from his shoulder last year to his texts this year. Sox could get alot for him
They don’t need to rebuild, and they don’t have another 1B in the system. It wouldn’t make any sense to deal him.
Long term pitching, rf, cf, catching but no no rebuild. Ill give the sox 2nd base, ss,lf and 3rd. Maybe jackie bradley in cf and kahlish is a stretch
Kalish isn’t that much of a stretch in RF, and Brentz is playing really well in RF in AA (and some expect Bogaerts – their #1 prospect – to possibly end up in RF; Bradley is about as close to a lock for CF as anyone can be; Lavarnway is ready and should be able to catch at least half the time, plus they have Vazquez, Butler, and Swihart at different levels of the minors; and they have their current rotation locked up for the next 2-3 years, and 9 out of their top 20 prospects are pitchers, including Barnes (#2) and Owens (#8) in their top ten.
On the other hand, none of their top 20 prospects are 1B, and only two of their top 40 prospects play 1B – one of whom is Mauro Gomez (who has played a little with the Sox this year and is no better than a AAAA journeyman), and the other is Travis Shaw (who just a couple weeks ago was promoted to AA and while he projects to be a decent player, he doesn’t project to be anywhere near what Gonzalez is).
Probably just to see if could get some grandiose haul in exchange is it. LA doesn’t have what it would take and we both know Gonzalez will be the core of any team for years to come, regardless of how some others who might drag along here and post jibberish may think.
almost every player in the league is on waivers at this point. its non news. no way they get rid of gonzalez on that contract
That deal is an absolute bargain.
It’s hard to say that the contact of the eighth highest paid player in the game is a bargain, regardless of how good the player is.
Probably best compared to the rest of the 1b in the game how his contract stacks up. Age, bat, glove, how he should fare over the course of the contract.. it is easy to look at his and think he should hold up fairly well until his 36th B-Day. Look at Pujols, signed into his 40’s, Fielder signed until his 39th and thing.. Ugh.. Howard, getting 25m until his 37th.
The Tex LT deal was probably the best bargain of them all.
That’s exactly what I meant by it.
I understand
of late, a chosen few here need more than words and just see names, or figures on a contract and think someone is either of no use, or not worth anything.
Outside of Tex when it comes to the massive LT deals given to 1b the last few seasons, Gonzalez probably has the best chance of being a useful player throughout and that includes Votto.. Signed for well north of 200m total until his 39th B-Day.
You know someone interesting who may break the cycle and not get a overly long contract after 2013? Justin Morneau.. Long unheralded and IMO, one of the finer all around 1b there is.
Something that could be looked at next off season and granted is slime chance if the Twins do not move him before hand.. NYY move Tex (assuming he is still producing at top level) and see if Morneau is open to a short term deal. Short term as in 3-4 year.
If Tex is still producing as he has since well before the Yankees signed him, he would still have some trade value, even owed 66m through his 36th B-day and the NYY could possibly find another guy who would benefit greatly from the short porch in right with little loss in the field and 1 year younger.. probably save some $$$ AAV also, if the LAD were not bidding them up. Possibly even deal Tex to the Dodgers.
lot of far sighted and remote possibilities, but possible. Hard to predict what Cashman is thinking. he is shrewd.
had he reached free agency, he easily would have gotten 40 million dollars more and 2-3 more years, based on what we saw in the market place.
he’s extension isn’t cheap, but yes its a bargain
No, it woudl be a bargain if he was doing what he did in 2011. IF he continues on his current pace, and he reaches 160 games played, he will have 19-20 homers. For what he’s getting paid, that’s unaccetpable, especailly at 1B, a power position. He’s hitting for less power and walking 40% less, and that’s really bad.
Look at his deal compared to the other 1B to sign since then and it looks like quite a bargain.
“A player being placed on trade waivers does not necessarily mean that he will be traded…”
If you take out the three dots the sentence literally ends with “but the first baseman could potentially draw interest from other clubs.”
Im sure lots of teams would have interest in guys like King Felix, Justin Upton, Andrew Mccutchen, Mike Trout and so on too. Luckily there is a pretty big difference in interest and an actual trade.
So what. This is a post about him being placed on waivers and it talks about teams being interested in him. Is it really that out of place to say that they aren’t going to trade him?
Also, have you read any farther down the page? Because there are tons of comments from people who say their team should trade for him, and people saying the Sox should trade him, so obviously there are people who think he could/should be traded.
MaineSox you know better than this xD
will NEVER HAPPEN but I wonder if the Sox would trade him and all his salary for Ike Davis (Cheap, power) & a prospect or two.
Mets need a solid middle of the order hitter, Red Sox could use the salary relief for other parts of team
I REPEAT, will never happen. Just wondering from a Sox perspective
It’d probably have to be Ike Davis, Harvey, and a few more pieces for the Sox to consider it.
for that salary? I don’t think it would take Harvey or Wheeler.
you are mistaken
Ya his salary is huge, but its not as high as Pujols, Howard, Fielder, Teixeira, Votto. Anyone from that list deserves a team’s top prospect (if not one, then a few). Gonz can hit with anyone of those players, too.
You’re among several people who seem to have missed this, but AGon is signed to a great value, considering what the other 1B in his class are making. His “bargain” contract is a big reason why a team would have to give up a monster haul to acquire him.
Yes let’s do this and watch Gonzo turn into Jason Bay.
Right, because the two are almost exactly the same player…
The Mets won’t do that deal so it doesn’t matter. They aren’t spending their money at 1b when they THINK Ike could be the answer. They don’t have a lot of money to spend on payroll, (man that sounds awful to say) so they won’t be upgrading that position. If a trade could be made for an OF with power, they might be interested, but I just don’t see this deal happening for the Mets.
why the heck is this news… EVERY PLAYER IS PLACED ON TRADE WAIVERS! Why would the sox trade one of their best players and one of the top 10 1B and a bargain $$ wise (compared to the other 1B in MLB) and secondly, who the hell would play 1B
NON NEWS
slow news period
what makes news is largely decided by what drives traffic
What has been driving traffic of late has been negativity, maroons and plain old front runners.
Go get him Ned!
Are these types of waivers different then the August 1st waivers, or can a claim still be traded/sent packing for contract to claimant/rescinded, and blocked by lower-standing clubs?
Same all month of august
The Red Sox want payroll money to go out next season.
The Dodgers should step up. They did try to get him before the trade deadline.
Adrian just doesn’t see tthe ball well at dodger stadium, His numbers at DS are pretty bad.
I’d offer Zach Lee, Dee Gordon and Shawn Tolleson for Adrian Gonzalez.
Also offer to take on the whole contract, too.
Don’t know if it would be enough, but couldn’t hurt to ask.
You covercontract sign em up
LOL, actually I just checked and AGon is signed through 2018. I might just do Zach Lee and Chris Withrow for AGon if the Dodgers have to take on that huge of a contract.
Have you see Gonzo’s contract vs that of virtually every other 1B in his class?? He’s making quite a bit less.
You do realize Gonzalez is making 20+ million per year, only Pujols and Fielder are actually 1B making more. Teixeira may be close, but I think he’s a couple million less per year.
@ivdown:disqus Gonzo actually has the lowest AAV of any of the elite 1B (Fielder, Votto, Teixiera, Pujols), and is signed for only 7 years, which is a big deal considering Fielder got 9 years, Votto got 10, Pujols got 10, and Teixeira got 8.
Howard isn’t elite, but he’s also making 25M per.
Tex is also four years through his deal. Why would it matter how many years they got in terms of signing one of them? You don’t have to pay for their past seasons?
Ryan Howard is making $25M a year for this year and the next 4 years. Votto is owed $242M over the next 12 years. Tex is making $22.5M this year and the next 4 years. There are at least 5 guys making more than AGon
I suspect few of those players would be claimed if placed on revocable waivers.
I’ll trade John “I am SO freakin’ overrated” Farrell from the Jays to the BoSox for him, and maybe we in Toronto will go out and sign Tito to replace the huge under-achieving pitcher’s nightmare.
Toronto does not need a 20M aging overpaid ex star. They have Encarnacion and Bautista who are as good as Fielder and Cabrera at 1/3 their price. Jays only need one front line starter and they are right there for years.
Yes of course, a 30 year old, all around better player than both of those guys on a super reasonable deal. I agree.
A-Gon/Beckett for Hamilton?
probably not but i hope so
You must live in Texas.
im a sox fan and i live in jersey bro
i WANT hamilton
Just what is needed, more injury prone players!
That will be Free Agents in 2 months. Makes perfect since.
Oh that is right I forgot about that part as well. I still dont understand why supposedly almost every player is put on trade waivers when the team doesnt really want to trade them…
Hamilton is a free agent in just over a month… Good idea.
Hamiltons a FA at the end of the year, so how does this make any sense?????
Love Hammy, but don’t you think the Sox have enough Problems?
Billy Hamilton or Josh Hamilton?
I’m sure Gonzalez would not object to being trade to the Dodgers. He would get to go back to SoCal and play for a team competing for the division. Boston has been nothing but a circus this year and along with the Angels are the biggest disappointments in all of baseball.
Good thing its not his decision. We arn’t trading him unless someone offers something insane and the Dodgers don’t have enough.
LOL at Boston
It makes sense. If I was the Red Sox, I’d be happy to have someone take that contract.
gonzalez’s contract is a bargain
Thank god you’re not the Red Sox!
Pretty much no news and a non issue. The Sox aren’t going to let a cornerstone piece of the next 6 years. If they do, there is bigger issues than we can even fathom over there.
What about Nick Franklin and James Paxton and the M’s take on the whole contract?
Nick Franklin is the heir apparent to SS in Seattle.
If he can stick at short. Big if
I’m not sure i would give them Paxton for him, but i would give them Franklin.
I remember last year, everyone talking about him hitting 60 or more HRs, winning easily the MVP, thats really funny right now, wheres his power?
Since the All-Star Break, Gonzalez has a triple slash of .358/.400/.634. He is sixth in the AL in home runs, first in RBI, and fourth in slugging percentage. I don’t know where it went, but it’s coming back.
no one ever said he was goig to hit 60hrs
Was it funny last season when he finished 7th for MVP. Give it a rest. Just because somebody says it on ESPN doesn’t mean we drink the kool aid, he is terribly productive either way you look at it.
Adrian could really help the Giants forget about Cabrera. And Belt could go to LF since he’s been heating up at the plate. But Blanco is much better at defense.
Not going to happen as long as the Giants are in first place. Dodgers would put in a claim before the Giants had an opportunity.
But in all likelihood an AL team would claim him before any NL team would have a chance…
Well, they shut Crawford down, let Papelbon walk, TRADED Youkilis, Francona is on ESPN, BASICALLY if Theo Epstien signed them, get rid of them. Not saying A Gone is gonna get traded, but if he does, Pedroia and Ortiz are next.
The only Sox being let go soon are the Becketts of the team who are underperforming and hurting the team with all their nonsense.
and Lackey the snitch.
I think the point is – Put him on waivers and see if someone gets insane, then it’s worth exploring.
Otherwise, nothing to see here.
How about with the Nationals for Anthony Rendon, Michael Morse and another prospect. Red Sox cut 20m/year off their payroll and the Nationals would become one of the scariest teams in baseball.
Trade him. This guy is a bizarre player. He tears it up in San Diego, a horrible park for hitters, even hitting 40 home runs one season. They trade him to Boston where everybody was expecting 50+ home runs per year (didn’t Gammons guess 60?), and his power has gone way down. I think he’s going to face a steep decline, and soon.
The guy hits .300, slugs .500, gets onbase around .375 and is a gold glover. The only people who thought his power numbers were going to sky rocket were inept band wagoners. His swing is a pure line drive swing, he dents the hell outta the wall a puts it into the corner in center constantly. This isn’t 2004, Your first baseman doesn’t need to hit 50 home runs any more, he just needs to hit.
actualy to be fair most people thought going to fenway his home run numbers would drop, he does not have a ton of opposite field power, and his doubles numbers would go up, which is what happened. He has power but he really isnt a 40 hr guy, If he was in a park such as yankee stadium yes 50 hrs, or even US Cellular he would be in the 40 HR range, a bulk of his home run power is to center and right, too very far problems at fenway. because he isnt a dead pul hitter or a dead opposite hitter Fenway actually lowers his homerun numbers, which most people in ESPN, MLB, Fangraphs all predicted..he is still a very very good player but he needs to be in a true hitters park to get those power numbers
Fenway is a doubles park. If pitchers pitch him to pull he is gonna hit a lot of homers but they usually pitch him out because its harder to go the other way for HR’s. So its really gonna be a crap shoot season to season with his HR numbers but it doesn’t matter a bit to me if he consistently hits around 50 doubles, 300, with gold glove D, good obp and stable health.
We are keeping him Dodgers got nothing compared to what we would need to part with him.
Ike Davis? I heart AGon
I wonder what it would take for the cardinals to trade for gonzo?
you gotta love the number of comments and the amount of hoopla over this, I’m willing to bet every single player has been placed on trade waivers at least once in their career, most probably yearly. Its a way for GMs to gauge interest without having to actually do anything. The only reason we find out is some “source” over hears a phone call from either the league office, the team with the player or the team with interest, OR the GM or assistant GM leaks the info to gauge the media and fans interest/ potential fall back, I’d bet every single player in MLB not on a first place team is currently on trade waivers, it not a big deal, literally a no story that gets blown up because the post july 31st and pre august 31st dead lines are slow for baseball trade rumors
Not every single one, but damn near close.
The Orioles have been talking they want to be in the playoffs. Standing show they currently are in the playoffs. But 39 games to go. So Dan Duquette make this deal. Gonzalez could be the Frank Robinson deal for the Orioles to be a Real Playoff and Division Treat. Of course we make a deal that does not strip the organization. But it will hurt to make this deal. So Go For It Now!
No, No, No, you don’t want Adrian Gonzalez.
Let me use my Jedi Mind Powers over you:
You don’t want Adrian Gonzalez in an Orioles Uniform.
Wave my hands and restate again:
You don’t want Adrian Gonzalez in an Orioles Uniform.
You want to go home and re-evaluate your opinion about Adrian Gonzalez
Adrian Gonzalez is not the first baseman you are looking for.
Hahahaha!
Dodgers should step up on Gonzo… dealing Dee would be a mistake… I say Alan Webster, Ivan de Jesus, & Brian Cavazos Galvez should get the deal done….Plus Dodgers would be commiting a huge amount of payroll for someone that hasn´t been very good at Dodger stadium… If not Gonzo the Dodgers need a LH Power bat to unify that lineup… Remember we could find a LF that meets those requirements… Anyway happy to see the Dodgers being….The Dodgers….
im a dodger fan at thats a trade proposal that would get declined the second they are offered it
The cards should offer Craig and miller for starters
I’ve got to believe the value/cost ratio of Craig and Miller over the next six years will far exceed AGon’s…
If people complained more about it, I think I would understand better.
I’m thinking Arizona would be the team to block them but would they gamble observing Gonzo’s whole contract.
no, they could just claim him to keep LA from trying
They have Goldschmidt(pretty sure I spelled that wrong but can’t look it up on phone) at 1st and cleared the way for him to play by getting rid of overbay. Doubt they’d risk agons contract, even if he’s worth most of it
it’s not a gamble. boston isn’t giving him away
I think if people complained about it in ALL CAPS I would understand it better. With only some caps, I’m still lost.
Not that I should have to say this, but there are plenty of hitters better than him. He may have a shot at the top 15 or 20, but he’s not in the very top Elite, especially since he’s a 1B.
It’s never a dumb move to measure interest. See if someone overpays tremendously…If they do, pull the trigger. If they don’t, so what? Any GM who doesn’t listen to offers isn’t doing their job.
I’ll take Gonzo over Ross every day of the week. The problem is that they have too many personalities trying to undermine management.
And I agree about Beckett. I have to believe he’s already on waivers/passed waivers.
They also need the pitching to…pitch. It’s been brutal most of the season.
I agree about the pieces but strongly disagree about Cherington. Poor health and bad ownership situations are not his fault. Bet money if he had it his way they would have just kept Tito/Young because of a lack of a more qualified candidate. But no ownership had to replace them just to replace them. We need health and some pitching and Ben WILL shine.
So create a hole at 1b, where they do not have anyone relatively close even to get some pitching that they do fairly close?
That makes a hole heap of sense.. Boston does have a lot of pitching depth spread out from high A ball to AA and the only *real* 1b product is Travis Shaw that was just promoted to AA 1 month ago, struggling there and was not even on the charts at the beginning of the season as a prospect.
Meanwhile as pitching prospects they have Workman and Britton at AA. Owens and Barnes at high A as legitimate SP depth within the next year-2, except Owens who is only 20 and may take another year.
They also have Hernandez at Pawtucket as a back end SP that on many teams would be considered a legit prospect. I don’t consider rubbish throwers prospects, but at 23YO, 2 years out of UM as their Ace, maybe he could be the next LH Bill Lee as he has been doing excellent everywhere he has been.
No shortage of SP prospects.. Just 1b since they gave away Anderson.