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Latest On Andrew Miller: Tigers, Braves Out Of Pursuit

By Jeff Todd | July 31, 2014 at 1:57pm CDT

1:57pm: The Braves are also out on Miller, per Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports (via Twitter).

1:23pm: The Tigers are not going to land Miller, tweets ESPNBoston.com’s Gordon Edes.

12:18pm: The Tigers are getting close on a deal to acquire Red Sox lefty Andrew Miller, reports Jon Morosi of FOX Sports (via Twitter). Originally drafted by Detroit, Miller was part of the trade that brought Miguel Cabrera to the Tigers.

Miller has made fairly significant leaps in performance over each of the past two years, settling into a pen role. In 2014, he has been among the most dominant relievers in baseball, striking out 14.7 batters per nine while walking just 2.8.

Detroit, of course, has already made quite a significant bullpen addition by adding Joakim Soria. But the club has also received suboptimal production from its southpaw pieces (Ian Krol and Phil Coke, primarily), seemingly leading to the interest in Miller. Of course, the club had an excellent left-hander in the pen in Drew Smyly, but moved him to the rotation as part of the team’s offseason reshuffling (which, of course, included dealing away Doug Fister for a return that included Krol and signing closer Joe Nathan).

Though it would be foolhardy to predict a hypothetical return, Miller is expected to draw fairly significant value given his dominance, though he is a free agent at the end of the year. The sides have previously discussed righty Austin Kubitza in a Miller deal, Morosi tweets, though it is not known if he is still part of the conversation. Kubitza is rated as Detroit’s 7th-overall prospect by MLB.com.

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  1. Ace2095

    8 years ago

    Who would be the most likely pieces in this deal if it were to happen?

    Reply
    • rushforpresident

      8 years ago

      Cabrera and Verlander. Let’s wait and see if DET adds a 3rd piece!

      Reply
      • Ace2095

        8 years ago

        Throw in V-Mart and done deal.

        Reply
        • Kyle

          8 years ago

          Might need to add Scherzer. Not sure if that deal is even yet.

        • rushforpresident

          8 years ago

          To add Scherzer, the Sox would have to put in 500k or so.

        • Brad Vance

          8 years ago

          They’ll throw in Stephen Drew!

        • d-blaqueqq

          8 years ago

          Gold glover, Future HOF Sir Stephen Drew? that might be an overpay on Boston’s side.

        • Ace2095

          8 years ago

          Might as well add Sanchez while your at it.

      • Brian Lynch

        8 years ago

        At this point moving Verlander wouldn’t be a bad move.

        Reply
    • Jeff Clinansmith

      8 years ago

      Robbie Ray and PTBNL

      Reply
    • Barry2

      8 years ago

      McCann and Crawford or Farmer or ss name later. Not Jose though.

      Reply
  2. EightMileCats

    8 years ago

    I’m afraid to see the cost…

    Reply
    • Karkat

      8 years ago

      Based on how our other trades have gone you’ll probably send us back Phil Coke.

      Reply
      • EightMileCats

        8 years ago

        Maybe it’s a return policy on Iglesias due to pre existing damage

        Reply
      • Baseball Legend

        8 years ago

        Darn it. That’s the guy..

        Reply
      • Phinilinipeni

        8 years ago

        Yup pretty much lol

        Reply
      • Baseball Legend

        8 years ago

        Weirdly, Peavy thus far has probably produced the best and most useful return. “shaking head”

        Reply
      • Troy

        8 years ago

        I could only pray Coke will be part of the deal. Take ALAL too

        Reply
    • Barry2

      8 years ago

      It has to be done.

      Reply
  3. bobbleheadguru

    8 years ago

    Miller and Cabrera celebrate a WS victory together? (traded for each other… with others).

    Reply
    • clyde hughey

      8 years ago

      I don’t know what’s wrong with you folks who think they gave up too much for Price. Clearly, youdon’tunderstand the trade process. You have give something of value to receive something of value. The trade was a great move. Jackson has been hot, which allowed D.D. to compete the. deal. The Tigers made out great! You’ll be singing a different tune in October.

      Reply
  4. philpbarnes

    8 years ago

    This better be good… I really didn’t want to see him go

    Reply
    • Karkat

      8 years ago

      What about today would make you think THIS trade will be good? 😛

      Reply
      • philpbarnes

        8 years ago

        Haha well I don’t really mind the trades they’ve done so far, apart from the fact im totally confused about what they’re trying to do with all the pieces

        Reply
      • gradylittle

        8 years ago

        I don’t agree with ya. The sox have gotten a solid return so far. Bolstered their offense. I really do think the Sox have a good chance in resigning Lester this offseason

        Reply
      • Shooter_McGavin_67

        8 years ago

        The Lackey for Craig & Kelly trade doesn’t make a whole lot of sense for me. I doubt that either guy will wind up being major contributors for the Sox. Maybe the Sox didn’t want to pay Lackey $500K next year 🙂

        Reply
      • NomarGarciaparra

        8 years ago

        For now, I’m going to have faith in Ben. Maybe he’s got some crazy trick up his sleeve. Flip Cespedes to another contender in need of a power bat?

        Reply
      • Bob Bunker

        8 years ago

        I mean what would you have done? What prospects would have been better bets to help the team contend in 2015? Or would you have taken your chances on Lester walking and getting a comp pick in return instead of a top 20 OF? Or would you have taken the risk of Lackey retiring and receiving nothing in return?

        These moves aren’t happening in a vacuum you have to think big picture

        Reply
        • Karkat

          8 years ago

          Yoenis Cespedes is rocking basically the same WAR as Brock Holt and is coming off a sub-.200 July. Cespedes could’ve been one player in a package, but on his own he’s a terrible return. Craig and Kelly are useless right now. Craig has the possibility of remembering how to hit, I guess?

        • Bob Bunker

          8 years ago

          Cespdedes has a .275 BABIP. Holt has a .370 BABIP. ROS projections have the former at 116 WRC+ and the latter at 88 WRC+ but if you think Holt and Cespedes are equally valuable then their really is no reason to continue trying to have a logical argument with you on the Lester Trade.

          Want to know another player that had a terrible age 29/30 year (83 OPS+) and then went to Boston. Adrian Beltre who had a 140 OPS+ with Boston. Allen Craig was a 140 WRC+ player for 3 years before this why do you think he can’t rebound. Would honestly rather have Grichuch/Piscotyy for Lackey when neither of those project to be what Craig was 2011-2013 and haven’t ever shown they can hit in the majors?

        • Karkat

          8 years ago

          Craig and a prospect or two would’ve been fine. But Craig as the headliner is a joke based on the season he’s having. Plus the Sox have nowhere to play him.

          And I know Cespedes is historically more valuable than Holt, but he’s not as good as his rookie season, doesn’t get on base well, and is only around through next season and can’t even get us a compensation pick. Lester was worth more than just him alone. Lester+Gomes should’ve easily yielded Cespedes+Milone+pick+prospect.

        • Bob Bunker

          8 years ago

          Ok maybe you are right and the team didn’t maximize value but I have a hard time thinking that their was an offer out there for Lester that would beat Cespedes. Craig + Kelly for Lackey is tougher to assess but if Craig rebounds like many players have before (happens a lot) you get 3 years of a 120-140 WRC+ type 1B/OF + a high leverage relieve/potential back end starter for a half a year of Lackey and the uncertainty of him coming back or not.

          I understand you wanting more value but can you honestly say the two trades were pennies on the dollar and that Craig and Kelly are awful players. Personally it seems someone is disappointing their favorite teams players value didn’t get back as much as he wanted and is now bashing the deal overly so.

          No packages for Lester/Lackey could have positioned them to contend better in 2015.

        • Karkat

          8 years ago

          The Red Sox didn’t get value on these trades. Not even close. I’d love to see Ortiz/Napoli/Cespedes/Craig be a dynamic middle of the order next year, but then Cespedes’s contract is up, and Craig doesn’t have anywhere to play in 2015. AND the Sox have no reliable pitching for 2015 now without hoping they can re-sign Lester or make some terrible deal involving Scherzer or Shields.

    • Barry2

      8 years ago

      Don’t worry Tigers are going to pay above market value.

      Reply
  5. Cubana

    8 years ago

    Cabrera for Miller, straight up

    Reply
    • bobbleheadguru

      8 years ago

      Already happened (with others).

      Reply
      • cgriffith

        8 years ago

        I like how you think 😉

        Reply
  6. Muhamed Mashkulli

    8 years ago

    Boston is not playin around

    Reply
  7. rushforpresident

    8 years ago

    Porcello?

    Reply
    • Barry2

      8 years ago

      Red Soxes were in West Michigan scouting some good young pitchers.

      Reply
  8. LittleOtterPaws

    8 years ago

    Because Miller was so good in Detroit last time…

    Reply
    • bobbleheadguru

      8 years ago

      Was not bad. Good enough to get Miggy.

      Reply
    • Danny Trayer Jr

      8 years ago

      When he was young and a starter? Yea. Now that he’s 29
      And has an ERA under 3 and a whip under 1 and has a 2.1 WAR since becoming a reliever. I want him.

      Reply
      • LittleOtterPaws

        8 years ago

        A lot of what the Sox did when they rehabbed him was mental, hopefully a trade back to Detroit doesn’t mess up the good vibes

        Reply
  9. RestoreTheRoar

    8 years ago

    Miller for Dirks and a prepaid HSA card

    Reply
    • Barry2

      8 years ago

      Red Soxes are ready got two OFs today.

      Reply
      • RestoreTheRoar

        8 years ago

        That’s ok Dirks doesn’t play baseball these days

        Reply
  10. Ace2095

    8 years ago

    I would like to see the Sox package Miller and Koji in a deal to the tigers in order to maximize the return. (I know it won’t happen though :P)

    Reply
  11. Antonio Alexsander langston

    8 years ago

    Ben: you guys still have Magglio ordonez?

    Reply
    • cgriffith

      8 years ago

      Actually the Tigers signed Magglio Ordonez Jr. two weeks ago

      Reply
      • Antonio Alexsander langston

        8 years ago

        Way too young for our team….how about Tony Clark??

        Reply
        • NomarGarciaparra

          8 years ago

          Miller to the MLBPA for Tony Clark.

      • bobbleheadguru

        8 years ago

        Impressive retort.

        Reply
        • cgriffith

          8 years ago

          38th round pick

  12. Bank On It

    8 years ago

    By the time Monday rolls around Red Sox going to be using a triple a team vs St. Louis

    Reply
    • Ace2095

      8 years ago

      At least it will be a good Triple A team.

      Reply
    • d-blaqueqq

      8 years ago

      Kelly starts against St. Louis. Throws a no hitter. The crowd goes mild.

      Reply
  13. vtadave

    8 years ago

    Time for the Tigers to explore dealing for Cameron Maybin too.

    Reply
    • Ace2095

      8 years ago

      The Sox will throw in Badenhop

      Reply
  14. Mike M

    8 years ago

    It will be some minor leaguer that you guys have never heard of. Don’t get too excited.

    Reply
    • Antonio Alexsander langston

      8 years ago

      Umm, excuse me. Ben only trades for veterans that we wish we’d never heard of.

      Reply
  15. TRAPstar

    8 years ago

    Tigers are trading Dirks + Reynaldo Vasquez for Andrew Miller

    Reply
  16. Tko11

    8 years ago

    Better not give up Miller for cheap…

    Reply
  17. Ace2095

    8 years ago

    Boston is going to flip every single player they got today for Stanton…:P

    Reply
    • cgriffith

      8 years ago

      You can only hope

      Reply
      • Ace2095

        8 years ago

        It’s the only way half of the stuff they did today makes sense. The Marlins wanted a starter controller past this season…Kelly. Cespedes would replace Stanton….Craig as a solid bounce back bat and then throw a few prospects in for Stanton.

        Reply
        • NomarGarciaparra

          8 years ago

          Cespedes and Craig make too much money for Miami.

        • Ace2095

          8 years ago

          It’s a possible scenerio albeit an unlikely one.

    • d-blaqueqq

      8 years ago

      I feel like Ben is playing MLB the Show and hitting random so that he generates trades that make no sense in reality.

      Reply
      • Antonio Alexsander langston

        8 years ago

        I did that last night and even I walked away with Dylan Bundy.

        Reply
      • Ace2095

        8 years ago

        Everytime I play MLB the Show I come away with everybodies Top Prospects, too easy, almost like making a trade with RAJ.

        Reply
  18. Jack Miller

    8 years ago

    So my Miller for Iglesias hope may actually come to fruition.

    Reply
    • bobbleheadguru

      8 years ago

      Not a bad idea. Tigers really like Suarez now. He is injured?

      Reply
    • NomarGarciaparra

      8 years ago

      I still don’t believe Iglesias can hit. I know he was on fire last year with Boston, but I remember watching his first 10 games or so and I couldn’t believe how lucky he was getting. He was hitting soft grounders here and there, and they just happened to find the right spots.

      Reply
    • Dr. Balloons

      8 years ago

      sox have no need for Iglesias. Bogaerts will play short for the rest of the season and Marrero is just about ready to go as well.

      Reply
      • Jack Miller

        8 years ago

        Bogaerts shouldn’t play shortstop, they decided to make him a full time 3rd baseman and that’s how they should keep him.

        Reply
        • Dr. Balloons

          8 years ago

          He actually performed better in the field at short than he has been at third, but i agree he wont remain at short. I figure they give him the season at short to let him prove to them and himself that he can’t play there before they give up and move him. Either way Iglesias makes no sense.

  19. Steve_in_MA

    8 years ago

    A little bit shocking, because much like the Braves, the Tigers don’t have much in their system that the Sox should want.

    Reply
  20. Steve_in_MA

    8 years ago

    A little bit shocking, because much like the Braves, the Tigers don’t have much in their system that the Sox should want.

    Reply
  21. Tim Richer

    8 years ago

    Well now I’m confused.

    Reply
  22. Antonio Alexsander langston

    8 years ago

    I guess the Tigers didn’t want to part ways with Sean Casey.

    Reply
  23. philpbarnes

    8 years ago

    Oh dammit I’d already ordered my Phil Coke jersey

    Reply
  24. cyberboo

    8 years ago

    Obviously the Red Sox told the Tigers they want Smyly and Castellanos and that wasn’t happening.

    Reply
  25. Joshua Payton

    8 years ago

    Most dominant reliever not named Wade Davis.

    Reply
    • Jacob Viets

      8 years ago

      Ever hear of Aroldis Chapman?

      Reply
  26. Matt Talbert

    8 years ago

    Oh Wren, go in and get Miller…NOW…don’t let DDDDD beat you to it. Come on…come on!

    Reply
    • Eric Mack

      8 years ago

      ugh, we need help from somewhere!!

      Reply
  27. YanksFan4EverNamed_Nick

    8 years ago

    Orioles

    Reply

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