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Royals Could Renegotiate Salvador Perez’s Deal, But Should They?

By charliewilmoth | June 6, 2015 at 1:33pm CDT

The Royals plan to approach Salvador Perez soon about a new contract at some point soon, Yahoo! Sports’ Jeff Passan writes, citing a team source. Perez’s is currently in the midst of a five-year, $7MM deal that Passan aptly calls “the best bargain in the big leagues.”

The Royals signed Perez before the 2012 season, when Perez was still remarkably unproven and not the sort of player who would typically receive a multiyear deal. Via MLBTR’s Extension Tracker, at the time of the deal, just two players in recent history had received extensions while they had less service time than Perez did. Both those players, Evan Longoria and Matt Moore, were widely regarded as top young talents. Not only did Perez have just 158 big-league plate appearances to his name, but he also hadn’t been an outstanding minor-league hitter. Now, of course, Perez has made two All-Star teams and won two Gold Gloves, and he’s been a key part of the Royals’ last two successful seasons.

“When I signed my contract, I was 100 percent sure I wanted to sign it,” says Perez. “I didn’t want to feel like, ’Why am I doing that?” But I didn’t know what kind of player I was going to be like.”

At this point, there are plenty of valid reasons for the Royals not to negotiate a new deal with Perez, just as the Cardinals have not negotiated a new deal with John Lackey, another valuable player whose contract called for him to be wildly underpaid this year. Perez’s current deal calls for him to be paid $1.75MM in 2015, followed by $2MM in 2016. The Royals have options on his services for $3.75MM in 2017, $5MM in 2018 and $6MM in 2019, with the salaries in those three years increasing a total of $5MM based on awards bonuses. As Passan points out, those very low figures could allow the Royals to spend money elsewhere, money they might need as a variety of other players become eligible for free agency.

The Royals could, of course, renegotiate the deal as a gesture of goodwill. “I had nothing,” says Perez. “Where I’m coming from, they’re talking about a million dollars. And I don’t got nobody in that moment to explain to me how it’s going to be or how high it could be.”

Perez did have an agent, Gustavo Vasquez, however. And it wouldn’t be fair to the Royals to characterize the contract as the result of an opportunistic club taking advantage of a poor and naive young man, as Vahe Gregorian points out in the Kansas City Star. At the time of the deal, the Royals were taking a risk on a highly unproven young player, and it was a clear possibility that the Royals would get very little for their $7MM investment.

“I don’t think there was another catcher in the history of our game … that had been signed (to such a long-term contract) with that little amount of service time,” Royals GM Dayton Moore tells Gregorian.

Just as no one would have expected Perez to return a portion of his $7MM guarantee if he hadn’t turned out the way the Royals had hoped, then, the Royals do not seem morally obligated to give Perez more money now that the deal has worked in their favor. And from a baseball perspective, there are few reasons for them to do so. The possibility of controlling additional years is the only tangible benefit the Royals would likely gain from renegotiating Perez’s contract. But they already control Perez through his age-29 season, and there should be little motivation for them to try to control him beyond 2019, since projecting how a catcher might perform in five years and as he enters his thirties seems tricky at best. That’s particularly true in Perez’s case, given his size and his often heavy workloads.

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  1. CT Cubs Fan

    10 years ago

    Perez and Anthony Rizzo have to be 2 of the best contracts in baseball. I can see the argument to give him more money to make him happy and potentially stay in KC. Hope both sides work something out because it’s nice to see the Royals competitive.

    Reply
    • Shaun Newkirk

      10 years ago

      fWAR from 2012-2014:
      Rizzo – 9.2
      Perez – 9.1

      Money owed from 2015+ (if options are picked up):
      Rizzo – $64M
      Perez – $18.5M

      Perez has the worst contract (ie more valuable) and it isn’t even close.

      Reply
      • Roger 2

        10 years ago

        Perez’s is definitely better, but the Cubs control Rizzo for an extra two seasons.

        Rizzo has come into his own in the last 1.5 seasons too. 5.2bWAR last year and on pace for ~9bWAR this year versus 3.4 and ~3 for Perez.

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      • CT Cubs Fan

        10 years ago

        Rizzo had a 5.6 fWAR season last year and is on pace for an 8(!) WAR season this year. He’s the 3rd best hitter in all of MLB this year and is controlled until 2019 + 2 option years for 41 million.

        Reply
        • Brixton G.

          10 years ago

          Rizzo isn’t the 3rd best hitter in baseball. Hes not going to sustain an OPS over 1.000.

          Reply
          • CT Cubs Fan

            10 years ago

            So his .900 OPS last year and huge improvements this year mean nothing? Not to mention his BABIP is only slightly higher than last year. His wOBP is .446 after today and trails only Harper and Goldy in wRC+, wOB% and offensive value (Fangraphs). He walks more than he Ks and is extremely disciplined. I see absolutely no reason other than an injury to see him regress. Not to mention his 5.6 fWAR last year showing it isn’t just a random great year he is having right now.

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            • Shaun Newkirk

              10 years ago

              His 2015 line so far: .325/.445/.602 182 wRC+
              Projected 2015 for RoS: .280/.376/.514 141 wRC+

              He’s expected to be about a 40% worse hitter going forward (though obviously still very good).

              Reply
              • CT Cubs Fan

                10 years ago

                If I were to pick one person to sustain their success other than maybe Harper I’d pick Rizzo. His walk rate is sustainable and he’s shown and he’s really cut down on Ks even more. His BABIP is only .331 after today’s game. For comparison Adrian Gonzalez’s BABIP is .373 and Goldy’s is .397. We can agree to disagree, but I think Rizzo’s current line is here to stay.

                Reply
              • Jo JoAnne

                10 years ago

                Projections.. Lol.. They are exactly that.. You can’t put human nature into a mathematical equation.. The entire world is projecting ISIS to be a problem in the future but if Assad gets his hands on a nuke he can make that problem go away.. I was a math major in college and I can tell you that a projection isn’t worth 2 cents once you factor in human nature..

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        • Shaun Newkirk

          10 years ago

          On pace doesn’t mean anything. He’s not going to have a 182 wRC+ for the rest of the year.

          If you use the projection systems (let’s just use ZiPS), he’s projected to put up another 3 wins this year. Combine that with the 2.7 so far and you are at ~6 wins. Which is still excellent, but it’s not an 8 win season.

          Meanwhile, Perez has been worth 0.6 so far and is projected at 2.4 (ZiPS) for a total of 3 wins.

          So Rizzo may be twice as good as Perez, but he’s also making almost 3 times as much this year, and 3.5 times as much next year.

          Reply
          • theo in 2016

            10 years ago

            However there are less players with wars that high therefore making it more valuable on a per dollar basis. One player producing 6 war is more valuable than 2 players producing 3 war each.

            Reply
    • Dock_Elvis

      10 years ago

      There’s a solid chance he’s overpaid in his post age 29 seasons, so maybe it balances out a little. Maybe the Royals cut him a nice heavy Christmas bonus

      Reply
  2. Roger 2

    10 years ago

    “And I don’t got nobody in that moment to explain to me how it’s going to be or how high it could be.”

    What about his agent?

    Reply
    • Dock_Elvis

      10 years ago

      I’m leery of reading quotes indirectly. It’s possible what he meant was that there wasn’t anyone there from the future to tell him how it was going to work out. I believe he’s aware of the chance the Royals took on him, and is loyal to the organization… Now how the Royals would or could reward his level of play…I don’t know…if he was a typical employee he’d maybe get a sizable Christmas bonus.

      Reply
      • connfyoozed .

        10 years ago

        I am especially leery when reading quotes from players for whom English is not their first language. It’s entirely possible he meant what you suggested.

        Reply
  3. JB 2

    10 years ago

    If I am not mistaken, Jon Singleton had zero service time when he signed his extension.

    Reply
    • charliewilmoth

      10 years ago

      I meant at the time. I’ll fix. Thanks.

      Reply
  4. joshb600

    10 years ago

    If they want to have a chance to re-sign him to a long term deal, they’d probably be well advised to give him a bit more money. He knows his worth now. Kind gesture and pocket change considering the payrolls teams have these days.

    Reply
    • jamesa-2

      10 years ago

      They already have him on a long-term deal. He still won’t become a FA again until after the end of the 2019 season. That’s still another 4 full seasons of control, every one of which can be considered a 1-year contract by the team, since every season is a team option.

      As for locking him up into his age 30 and beyond seasons, if he continues to be this valuable for 3 more years, they could still try renegotiating with him then. If he says no, then they can still slap him with a QO and at the very least get a draft pick for losing his services the moment he is gets expensive while being on the wrong side of the aging curve.

      Reply
  5. Brixton G.

    10 years ago

    Hes not a great hitter, and guys like Molina and Martin showed us that catcher defense doesn’t get you into 9 figures. You got him locked up for 4 seasons at 16.75M, I think hes in the same boat as the Cutch extension talks from a few weeks ago. I wouldn’t rush it because its so far away. Players change in 4 seasons.
    Do you want to risk he hits better in the coming years and lock him up now for cheaper, or do you think he doesn’t have a great offensive future, and wait until later.

    Reply
    • joshb600

      10 years ago

      He’s not a terrible hitter either. I’d take a .270 avg with 15-20 homers and 70-80 RBI a year from a guy who plays a premium position like catcher, and plays more games than any other catcher.

      The fact he plays so many games may come back to haunt him down the road though. So longevity is definitely something that has to be considered.

      Reply
      • Federal League

        10 years ago

        Eh, no he’s not a terrible hitter, but his career walk rate is 3.6% and it’s 1.6% so far in 2015. He’s got a 92 OPS+ over 2014-15. He’s certainly a valuable overall player, but I don’t think I like him as much as you do when he’s not hitting close to .300.

        Reply
        • joshb600

          10 years ago

          Yeah the walk rate is HORRIBLE, but overall he’s very valuable. Certainly more than 1.75 mil.

          Who am I kidding? No athlete is worth more than 1.75 mil, but in comparison to others, he’s definitely “underpaid”

          Reply
    • stymeedone

      10 years ago

      Can you imagine what would have happened to the Tigers if they had signed Alex Avila to an extension after his rookie, All-star season? It hasn’t worked out as projected, but he is getting paid a good salary. The Royals took a chance, and Perez would still be getting paid had he been the next Lavarnway. He should be a man and stand by his contract. (not that he’s trying to get out of it). I would love to be “underpaid” like he is.

      Reply
      • Brixton G.

        10 years ago

        We sit here as normal people saying we’d love to have his underpaid salary, but if he has a chance to earn x5 of his ‘underpaid’ 2M salary, can you really blame him for trying?

        Reply
        • stymeedone

          10 years ago

          Yeah, I can. I would like to be paid more, but I agreed to my wage for the job that I do. Do I feel I am underpaid? Probably everyone does. The difference is that at the end of his contract, he will be paid more than I will make in my lifetime. He can wait until the end of his current, freely agreed to, and agent negotiated contract to b*tch and moan. If he wasn’t happy with the contract, he didn’t have to sign it. If he feels his agent took advantage of him, I’m sure the Union would help him go after the Agent. If he doesn’t wish to sue, than be a man and honor your signed contract. In the meantime, I will simply hope that the price of tickets doesn’t prevent me from actually taking my family to the game.

          Reply
  6. HappyNonSuicidalMustacheMasher

    10 years ago

    I really don’t think they should give him more money. I get that it sucks for Perez, but then he shouldn’t have signed it, no one forced him to do so. Players with huge contracts that suck like CC Sabathia don’t pay back money either, so it goes both ways

    Reply
    • scann

      10 years ago

      CC doesn’t suck….better than most teams second or third option…..

      Reply
      • HappyNonSuicidalMustacheMasher

        10 years ago

        You obviously haven’t watched CC….

        Reply
      • Brixton G.

        10 years ago

        CC has been terrible for 3 years now.

        Reply
        • HappyNonSuicidalMustacheMasher

          10 years ago

          Like really really terrible..

          Reply
      • Federal League

        10 years ago

        Sabathia hasn’t had an above average or even average season since 2012. He can still get strike outs, and he doesn’t walk a lot of guys, but he’s very hittable now.

        Reply
      • I WILL FINE HIM

        10 years ago

        He has been pretty bad for a couple of years.

        Reply
      • Sleeper

        10 years ago

        Let’s not get carried away with CC love. Im a NYY fan, and a CC fan, and I can easily acknowledge this as false. Particularly the past 2 years, he’s been pretty bad. This year, his numbers have been worse than he’s actually been,he hasn’t been helped by poor management or dependence on Carpenter to clean up his messes, he’s been a serviceable number 4/5, but certainly not better than most teams 2nd/3rd guys

        Reply
      • scann

        10 years ago

        CC will finish the season with 10 – 15 wins…..with an ERA. under 4….far from a player that sucks….remember he missed most of last season with knee surgery….he had to use the early part of the season to adjust…Will take off in the summer months…..

        Reply
        • HappyNonSuicidalMustacheMasher

          10 years ago

          Lol..

          Reply
        • Daniel Greer

          10 years ago

          I’ll take the over on that ERA.

          Reply
  7. connfyoozed .

    10 years ago

    It’s a tough decision, especially for a relatively smaller market team like the Royals. On one hand, they don’t have the deeper pockets some other teams have. On the other, you kind of want to show Perez, and other players, a sort of goodwill gesture that performing consistently above your contract can be rewarded in the long run. In the end, I think the Royals should at least strongly consider discussing a new deal with Perez, but if they de use not to they are perfectly justified.

    Reply
  8. Mikenmn

    10 years ago

    The financial security offered by the initial contract was a tangible thing. He just as easily could have gotten injured, or slipped back in performance. Seemingly every day, we see another once well regarded player being DFA’d. Extend him if it makes business sense, but I’m not sure there’s any moral obligation to rewrite the contract.

    Reply
  9. Sleeper

    10 years ago

    I don’t believe there should be any moral obligation or practical obligation to hike Perez’ pay, he knew what he was signing for, despite not knowing the player he’d become. That being said, it certainly wouldn’t hurt the player-team relationship to consider doing a something small as a sign of appreciation. Adding an extra year and tacking on just a little something, nothing extreme, could go a long way down the road. That being said, it’s not my money to spend, so however they proceed is fine by me.

    Reply
    • stymeedone

      10 years ago

      It wouldn’t hurt the player-team relationship for A-Rod to dismiss his milestone bonuses, or for Ryan Howard to take a paycut, but those won’t happen. Why is it always on the teams to make “nice”, but never on the players?

      Reply
      • Sleeper

        10 years ago

        What do the Yankees or Phillies tough contracts have to do with this scenario? You really think the Player’s Union would allow them to take a pay cut? I’d love to see that one play out, that’s just not how baseball works today. I’m not sitting here demanding they do anything, I tried to make it clear that there’s no obligation on any level for them to, if they don’t, that’s fine and I won’t think any less of them. But the guy is pretty grossly under-paid for what he gives that team in comparison to the market, that’s pretty clear, so yes, it couldn’t hurt to do something modest for the guy. As I said, nothing extreme, but a slight hike in pay with an extra year could go a long way.

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        • stymeedone

          10 years ago

          If the underpaid players are being discussed, it seems to lend itself to the discussion of the overpaid players, as well. Maybe if the Union would agree with the teams on an issue like A-Rod’s milestone incentives, labor relations would take a step forward. Yeah, I know its not going to happen. Just trying to think of what type of players would object to A-Roid not getting his bonus because of his methods of achieving those milestones.

          Reply
        • stymeedone

          10 years ago

          When Perez signed the contract, he was not considered underpaid. Therefore, I don’t consider him underpaid.

          Reply
          • Ben Perlman

            10 years ago

            That’s how I feel about O’Day

            Reply
  10. churumba

    10 years ago

    So when or if he fails do they renegotiate a lower salary?

    Reply
  11. Michael K. Woods

    10 years ago

    Kansas City could offer him a 1 year extension for 2020 (his age 30 season and 8+ in the league) at $25 million; structure it so it pays like this: $6 million signing bonus (perhaps partially deferred over 2 seasons), $1 million increases to 2016-2019 base salaries, and $15 million base in 2020 (perhaps with escalators). Note: obviously the team options would go away and become guaranteed. This would guarantee him $41.75 million from 2017-2020 at the cost to the Royals of $25 million in new money (I base the 2020 number of 25$ million on the projection of Perez exceeding Buster Posey’s amount of $21.4 million for his age 30 season). And to clarify I don’t believe Perez is necessarily better than Posey, but I am saying that new contracts always see inflation over the comparative salaries at the position.

    Reply
  12. Jo JoAnne

    10 years ago

    Poor little baseball player only makes $1.4 million a season.. It will take me almost ten years to make that and I make a good salary..

    Reply
    • docmilo5

      10 years ago

      I understand where you’re coming from but he is in a 50% tax bracket more likley than not, pays probably 6% or more to his agent and then there are clubhouse fees. It’s still a bucket o money but his take home is probably closer to $500k.

      Reply
      • Jo JoAnne

        10 years ago

        I agree that for a baseball player he is woefully underpaid but he is still a member of the 1%..

        Reply

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