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Marlins Name Barry Bonds Hitting Coach

By Jeff Todd | December 4, 2015 at 11:46am CDT

DEC. 4: The Marlins have now officially named Bonds their new hitting coach, with Menechino assuming the role of assistant hitting coach.

DEC. 1, 12:07pm: Bonds “tentatively plans” to take the job, Nightengale tweets, though negotiations are not yet wrapped up.

11:28am: The Marlins have been pursuing legendary-but-controversial slugger Barry Bonds to serve in a coaching capacity with the club, Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com reported yesterday. Miami has now extended him a formal offer and is awaiting a decision, Bob Nightengale of USA Today reports on Twitter.

If Bonds joins the organization, he’d serve as a co-hitting coach with incumbent Frank Menechino, according to Heyman. That’s somewhat unusual in that neither would, apparently, be the assistant to the other, but presumably represents the team’s attempt to strike a balance in doling out job titles and responsibilities.

The two sides are said to be close to reaching an arrangement after holding extensive talks in recent weeks, per Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe (Twitter links). At this point, it seems, the only question is whether Bonds is willing to move to Miami and take on the demands of the position.

Obviously, the possibility of a hitting coach hiring doesn’t normally draw many headlines. But in this case, the name under consideration is of particular importance. Bonds, of course, hit more home runs than any player in MLB history and came closer than anyone to eclipsing Babe Ruth in total wins above replacement. Indeed, he might have done just that had he continued his career past a 2007 campaign in which he put up a .480 OBP. But Bonds had become a toxic asset by that point — he was embroiled in PED controversy, though he ultimately was unsuccessful in proving a collusion case — and has been frozen out of the Hall of Fame thus far despite his historic excellence.

The Fish, then, would be making a highly significant move in bringing Bonds back into the baseball fold. He has already increased his public exposure and engagement with the sport recently — including serving as a spring instructor with the Giants — and the rehabilitation efforts of Alex Rodriguez and Mark McGwire have probably also cleared a path. But it would still make for a major point of transition if Bonds were to put on a uniform again.

From a team-specific perspective, Bonds is obviously as knowledgeable about the craft of hitting as anyone and is said to have genuine interest in coaching. Adding his outsized personality carries some risk, of course, to say nothing of the intense media coverage his presence will generate (at least initially). But Marlins owner Jeffrey Loria is said to have developed a “friendship” with the now-51-year-old, per MLB.com’s Joe Frisaro, and obviously appreciates the broader dimensions of the move. Notably, the club has already installed former Yankees legend Don Mattingly as its skipper and brought back Ichiro Suzuki as he pursues the 3,000 hit milestone.

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  1. wilymo

    10 years ago

    maybe he can make the hall as a hitting coach and everyone can finally calm down

    Reply
  2. ronnsnow

    10 years ago

    Sure, let’s make him the hitting coach of the best power hitter in the league. In the city where Biogenesis was. Typical Marlins stuff here.

    Reply
    • SixFlagsMagicPadres

      10 years ago

      It’s like something out of a movie. Or a 30 for 30 documentary.

      Reply
  3. Joey Domingues

    10 years ago

    Florida Marlins , You #1 choice for retirement ex-MLB Stars! “When no one else wants you, we will take you in!”

    Reply
  4. Meow Meow

    10 years ago

    Barry Bonds WAS always a good contact hitter and OBP guy going back to his Pittsburgh days. Surely his PED use inflated his HR numbers (and, imo, should keep him out of Cooperstown), but I’m sure he has a lot of good insight into hitting and could probably be a good coach as long as his personality isn’t an issue.

    Reply
    • Makinitmine

      10 years ago

      you mean Barry Bonds without a big head?

      Reply
      • Niekro

        10 years ago

        The only 400/400 player in existence Bonds, Bonds was a once in a lifetime player long before the cream and the clear. I wish younger fans knew how dynamic he used to be long before he became a home run hitter.

        Reply
        • Makinitmine

          10 years ago

          Sorry it was a joke at how large his actual head has become after using steroids or the allegedness thereof

          Reply
          • bravesred 2

            10 years ago

            He also has a beloted(spl?) head.

            Reply
        • Twinsfan79

          10 years ago

          Agreed, Niekro. However he’s not a very likable person.

          Reply
          • gilgunderson

            10 years ago

            There’s a long list of Hall of Famers who are / weren’t likable people.

            Reply
            • YourDaddy

              10 years ago

              Which is exactly why they are not good coaches.

              Reply
          • vamosbravos

            10 years ago

            Oh, you know him personally then, Ts79′? Please, do tell.

            Reply
            • vtadave

              10 years ago

              Don’t think you need to know Bonds “personally” to come to the conclusion that he’s not very likable.

              Reply
              • YourDaddy

                10 years ago

                Met him several times. He was always unpleasant even at charity events. I watched him tear the corners off a little kid’s Bonds rookie card before he would sign them. Left the kid crying. Bonds was a jerk in every situation I came into contact with him. Several players and reporters have been quoted as saying he was a jerk and much worse words including Pirates and Giants teammates.

                Reply
        • runrunkak

          10 years ago

          Not only is he the only 400/400 player in history, he also is the only 500/500 player in history (as well as the only 600/500 and 700/500 player) cuz he ended up w/513 stolen bases. Scary!

          Reply
        • Logjammer D"Baggagecling

          10 years ago

          Of those 400 hrs how many were with the giants. ? At least half of them. Its funny he choose San Francisco after leaving Pittsburgh.when he talks he not only sounds very flamboyant but he sounds white. He’s like that dude christly knows best. But he will always stay in the closet. (he’s not nearly as feminant as that guy but still)

          Reply
        • NickinIthaca

          10 years ago

          Thank you. He was a first ballot hall of famer before PEDs.

          An interesting point in the Joe Torre book “The Yankee Years” was that he personally felt that Bonds didn’t start juicing until after his ridiculous 1998 season was over looked by Mcgwire and Sosa chasing Roger Maris’ Home run record. He realized then that “chick’s dig the long ball,” as the old commercial goes….

          Reply
      • onlyringsmatter

        10 years ago

        only people who never used steroids think it’s a magic pill

        Reply
    • bigkempin

      10 years ago

      Barry was a great hitter. Good contact with a great eye….but then his ego got the best of him when McGuire and Sosa got all the attention for hitting 60+. He was always viewed as an Ahole by teammates and other players. Not sure this is going to end well if the Marlins offense struggles.

      Reply
    • Logjammer D"Baggagecling

      10 years ago

      He was going to be a hofer without steroids as was A-Rod they made the choice to cheat. Giancarlo is probably the only legit threat at Hank Aaron’s HR record. He will always be the all-time hr leader until it’s broken with legit numbers. Bonds and A-Rod don’t deserve even an afterthought to being in the hof.

      Reply
  5. rct

    10 years ago

    Very small request, but in posts like this that include retired players, could you guys include links to their B-R pages like you normally do for active players? Seeing names like Frank Menechino always gets me curious and it’d be nice to have the links there to click.

    Reply
  6. wilymo

    10 years ago

    borderline unfair for the marlins to have BOTH of the greatest hitters of the previous generation as co-hitting coaches

    Reply
    • wilymo

      10 years ago

      hmm. tough crowd

      Reply
  7. AstrosWS20

    10 years ago

    Only here to read trolling comments.

    Reply
  8. TJECK109

    10 years ago

    Miami is the perfect location. Not a very far drive from Arods pals.

    Approach to hitting…

    Step 1… Keep your eye on the needle

    Reply
    • YourDaddy

      10 years ago

      Dont know why all the downvotes. That was funny.

      Reply
  9. Monkey’s Uncle

    10 years ago

    Hitting coach is a pretty important position for his first coaching gig. I hope Bonds doesn’t become big-headed with his achievement.

    *rimshot*

    Reply
  10. ssimplisticness

    10 years ago

    Welcome back to baseball, Barry. You’re back where you belong. Best of luck with your new occupation.

    Love ’em or hate ’em, he was one hell of a ball player. His legacy may be tarnished and his name may never be listed in the Hall of Fame, but his impact on the game will never be forgotten.

    Now, let’s bring back Pete!

    Reply
  11. bravesred 2

    10 years ago

    So much hate from Bonds fans.

    Reply
  12. aff10

    10 years ago

    Heyman makes a good point regarding Matt Williams. Obviously, Bonds’ celebrity is higher than Williams’, but a PED guy is capable of handling coaching on a day-to-day basis without being a distraction. Williams ultimately became a distraction, because he wasn’t a good manager, but it’s possible Bonds could succeed without much distraction

    Reply
  13. Stat_head

    10 years ago

    It will be interesting to see if this goes anywhere. Roids jokes aside, great natural hitters rarely make great hitting coaches because you can’t teach talent and these guys didn’t get to be a great as they were by accepting ‘close enough’. Ted Williams and Ty Cobb are two examples that come to mind. Ted’s guidance that the spin of a fastball makes it look redder than a curve is only helpful if you have his fantastic vision and can pick that up 10-20 feet sooner than normal.

    Reply
    • gilgunderson

      10 years ago

      There are already a number of anecdotes about Bonds’ tutelage having a positive effect on Giants’ hitters. Brandon Crawford’s improvement at the plate is probably the most obvious example, but his advice to Michael Morse before Game 5 of the 2014 NLCS about how to approach facing Pat Neshek led directly to Morse’s memorable home run.

      Reply
      • mrkinsm

        10 years ago

        Morse hitting the ball led to the homerun, neither you, I, Bonds, or even Morse can say with any doubt what Bonds told him helped in any way.

        Reply
        • Priggs89

          10 years ago

          That’s not true at all. Morse absolutely can say what helped him. Bonds told him to get his foot down earlier – Morse said he was focusing on that. Unless you can read Morse’s mind and know exactly what he was thinking, there’s really no argument against that advice helping.

          Reply
  14. mrshyguy99

    10 years ago

    well everyone deserve a second chance. if mark can become a hitting coach why cant bonds. even without PED bonds would of been one of the best without all the HRs. bonds was a true 5 tool player something you dont see much of

    Reply
    • gilgunderson

      10 years ago

      Well, four great tools: he was not exactly blessed with a cannon of a throwing arm.

      Reply
  15. mrshyguy99

    10 years ago

    so the team might not be good, but they make news because they hire don,they might hire bonds and they have Ichiro Suzuki going for 3,000 hits only 65 hits away.

    Reply
  16. Acuña Matata

    10 years ago

    Meanwhile, everyone whining about this miss the part where Bonds was not only one of the best contact hitters with/out PEDs but lest we forget who taught him? Excluding his dad, Willie Mays and McCovey.

    Reply
    • Acuña Matata

      10 years ago

      How does one down vote a factual statement? “Yeah you’re right but I hate you so thumbs down sir. Thumbs down”

      Reply
      • DodgerBlue83

        10 years ago

        Probably because he wasn’t “one of the best contact hitters” pre-PEDs. His first 15 years in the league he finished 4th once in avg and 7th once, no other time did he break the top ten, and his career avg at the point was in the low 290s. At the time there were a lot of people hitting 300.

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        • Acuña Matata

          10 years ago

          Yeah… actually he was… for someone to have a low .290 BA over a 15 year period pre PEDs per your words and you’re saying what exactly?

          Not to mention “at the time there were a lot of people hitting 300” yeah and a lot of them were on PEDs and how many exactly averaged .300 over 15 years? Less than a lot? Oh ok cool so, you should come back when that Dodger blue isn’t blinding you

          Reply
  17. mike156

    10 years ago

    With Bonds edging back in, with McGwire looking at an enhanced role, with A-Rod being brought back to comment, Giambi continuing involvement as a respected elder, and the even MLB’s boosting of David Ortiz, you may be seeing the start of an era where we rationalize prior use. I think it’s unlikely all this could be happening without some tacit consent from the league itself. And, as much as i know i’m going to get thumbs downed for this, I think the league’s desire to market Ortiz has played a role in getting here–they are undoubtedly aware that, fairly or not, he is perceived by many (once you leave New England) as tainted. This is probably a good thing, because MLB knows it cannot erase an entire era from its history and its Hall of Fame. Time to move on?

    Reply
    • wilymo

      10 years ago

      don’t worry about it, literally everything on this thread is getting downvoted

      Reply
      • mike156

        10 years ago

        Won’t worry. I know there are some things that are untouchable.

        Reply
  18. kylecthomas

    10 years ago

    bonds + stanton = bonds?

    Reply
    • wilymo

      10 years ago

      bonds. giancarlo bonds

      Reply
  19. jd396

    10 years ago

    He could have retired before he took his first shot in the bum and still have a halfway realistic shot to get in the hall with a case better than Kirby Puckett’s.

    Reply
  20. drewm

    10 years ago

    The PED discussion doesn’t matter to me because he’s not going to be on the field, his impact is entirely in preparation. Since retiring, some people have sought out Bonds to talk hitting. Bonds himself participated with the Giants last season and spent time with Brandon Crawford, who showed great improvement.
    m.mlb.com/news/article/69143688/barry-bonds-hittin…

    He’s worked with other players who needed advice on their hitting approach or game preparation, like Dexter Fowler, Ryan Howard, and Alex Rodriguez. Guys already seek him out for his advice, and he’s shown that he can be a benefit to a team that brings him in (Giants).

    Some guys are good and they just retire, some guys’ love for the game is permanent, they love talking about it, and they have a lot of good advice to give based on their observations against the best opponents for many years. Bonds is one of those guys, and I think it’s a good move.

    Reply
  21. Cora the Destroya

    10 years ago

    Players who took steroids should not be allowed to coach.

    Reply
  22. HubcapDiamondStarHalo

    10 years ago

    Wow. It’ll be interesting to see how Bonds reacts when Loria invariably screws him over!

    Reply
  23. mwk89

    10 years ago

    if mcgwire can be welcomed back, why not bonds?

    Reply
  24. Los Calcetines Rojos

    10 years ago

    Dee Gordon is about to become Barry Bonds II

    Reply
  25. rstang4

    10 years ago

    Great now the whole team will be on steroids.

    Reply
  26. JoeyPankake

    10 years ago

    Hope he got a no trade clause…

    Reply
    • HubcapDiamondStarHalo

      10 years ago

      I wonder if there’s any such thing as a “no firing because Loria is in a weird mood” clause…

      Reply
  27. corey

    10 years ago

    Barry Bonds hitting advice day #1- Inject or rub on.
    Day#2- Dealing with the press- Always say anything possible to alienate yourself from players and fans, and always remember, deny deny deny!

    Reply
  28. petrie000

    10 years ago

    now Stanton can finally learn how to properly go off on his team in the media

    Reply
    • baseballrat

      10 years ago

      That’s Best you got?? WEAK

      Reply
  29. Logjammer D"Baggagecling

    10 years ago

    Bad move for baseball. He can’t even give legit advice. Except maybe where to get cheap drugs to further ones career.

    Reply
    • NickinIthaca

      10 years ago

      The only player in the history of baseball to have 400 home runs and 400 steals in a career can’t give legit advice about hitting? I take it you didn’t start watching baseball until the PED witch hunt started…

      Reply
      • wilymo

        10 years ago

        i’m basically on your side here but how do the steals relate to his hitting advice

        Reply
    • baseballrat

      10 years ago

      Bet you don’t complain when McGwire keeps getting jobs

      Reply
  30. rizdakc99

    10 years ago

    And in related news, Marlins are set to announce Pete Rose as bench coach.

    Reply
  31. 22Leo

    10 years ago

    Is he aware that he is actually going to need to develop some people skills to be a successful coach?

    Reply
  32. tex

    10 years ago

    His first advice to fish hitters will be – get on some ‘roids.

    Reply
  33. tex

    10 years ago

    Not a Mets fan, but wish Sandy godspeed in his battle against cancer.

    Reply
  34. vamosbravos

    10 years ago

    Any idea what jersey number he will be wearing? Cause’ I need to get a Marlins jersey, like now!!!

    Reply
  35. kingfelix34

    10 years ago

    Stanton’s arms are going to get a bit bigger now

    Reply
  36. Yogajonny

    10 years ago

    Brutal. The man is.a disgrace and should be straight up banned from baseball. Go to hell Barry and way to sh*t the bed on this one Florida.

    Reply

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