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Poll: Will The Blue Jays Extend Bautista & Encarnacion?

By Jeff Todd | February 16, 2016 at 9:00am CDT

Early-career extensions are always fun, but tend not to come with the same drama of talks with pending free agents. Sometimes deals get done late in camp, locking in an important player for years to come and keeping them from the open market; last season, for instance, the Red Sox locked in righty Rick Porcello just after the season began. Of course, Porcello himself was acquired in part because the team did not retain Jon Lester after failing to agree upon an extension despite extensive negotiations in the prior offseason.

As the Lester situation shows, the stakes are often ratcheted up in cases of players with a close identity to their clubs. That’s probably all the more true when (again, as in the case of Boston and its lost lefty) there’s widespread public acknowledgement of mutual interest and close attention from fans.

The Blue Jays face a particularly interesting set of extension questions as camp nears. One of those has already been answered, as the club reached a two-year arrangement with star third baseman Josh Donaldson, who will still have one year of arbitration remaining at the end of that contract.

Much more interesting, time-sensitive, and PR-fraught talks still remain to be had, however, with a pair of star sluggers who are key faces in the organization. Both Jose Bautista and Edwin Encarnacion bloomed late in their careers, upon coming to Toronto. In each case, the team (under then-GM Alex Anthopoulos) bet on the players with extensions that turned into bargains for the organization. With those contracts set to expire after this season, they’re on the clock.

The case for a pair of big new extensions is pretty simple. There’s no question that both players are still producing at a high level at the plate, as they each landed in the top ten in the game by measure of wRC+, and they’ve each expressed interest in contract talks. Many fans are hopeful of pacts, with emotions running after a great run in 2015 was followed by a bad breakup with Anthopoulos. And the Blue Jays’ new front office tandem of Mark Shapiro and Ross Atkins has publicly suggested that there will be an attempt at reaching new deals with the pair.

But that’s not all Shapiro and Atkins are considering here, of course. Bautista (35) and Encarnacion (33) are getting on in years. While the former is still capable of manning right field, it isn’t hard to imagine a time in the not-so-distant future where both players are limited to first base and/or DH roles.

Ultimately, as MLBTR’s Mark Polishuk recently wrote in discussing Bautista as an extension candidate, it’s an open question whether it makes sense for the organization to try to lock up both players. And it isn’t entirely clear whether the front office will be willing to enter anything approaching market-rate deals with the pair.

That will all begin to be resolved as contract talks begin in earnest. For now, though, it’s a good time for a poll: do you think that the Jays will get deals done with either or both?

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  1. baseballrat

    9 years ago

    Management will erase all of the success that led up to last year. They are already complaining about having no AAA ready pitchers fill in at the ML Level

    Reply
  2. reignaado

    9 years ago

    I choose, both sluggers are extended. Bautista will most likely end his career as a Blue Jay.

    Reply
  3. adshadbolt

    9 years ago

    I would go 2 years with 2 club options for Bautista. For Encarnacion I would got 3 yrs with 2 options.

    Reply
    • ABK99

      9 years ago

      If v-mart got 4 guaranteed years at age 36 coming off of a decent track record and one standout season, then these two won’t need to go for club options

      Reply
      • stymeedone

        9 years ago

        Look at how the V-Mart signing has worked out. It’s probably the reason to only offer options. What might be an option to guarantee more security to the player, and safeguard the team might be to have both a team option, and a player option to the extra years. Put the team option at, say, 20MM. If he has a great season, the team is sure to pick it up. Place the player option at, say, 14MM. If the player was not worth the 20MM due to injury or regression, the player may take the 14MM option, or choose FA. It would provide guaranteed security to the player, but reduce the risk of the team. It would also allow the player to stay with the same team, if he so chooses.

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        • Mark 20

          9 years ago

          Its been one year for V-Mart, cant really call it a loss yet.

          Reply
      • tigers1968

        9 years ago

        That is the Tigers though and you can not take their contracts seriously.

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    • Mike McLellan

      9 years ago

      I guess they won’t be on your team then.

      Reply
  4. demmer19

    9 years ago

    They will sign one! Bautista has more to offer defensively! 3 to 4 year deal

    Reply
  5. A'sfaninUK

    9 years ago

    Both are getting old and the injury-prone Bautista should be a full-time DH as soon as possible, I see Bautista transitioning to the DH role in 2017 and going full-time with it in 2018. Being that Joey Bats is the higher profile player, E5 is most likely going to walk – to Boston, to replace Big Papi as their full-time DH. The Jays have a bunch of d-minded OFs and Alford on the way, it seems really logical to keep Joey B and let E5 walk.

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    • ZachPadres24

      9 years ago

      Hanley will probably be Boston’s DH in 2017.

      Reply
    • The Oregonian

      9 years ago

      Like Zach said, H-Ram will be the full-time DH for Boston in 2017 assuming they don’t unload him by then. To me the best fit for EE next year is the Indians, but they probably won’t want to pay market prices for him. Other fits might be the Astros, Brewers, or Orioles, but it’s hard to find an obvious fit where he might go besides back to Toronto.

      Reply
  6. HibbardsHustler

    9 years ago

    Would love to see both. Both four year 60 – 80M with two year club option. Once Jose slows down put him at first. Clear Smoak and Saunders, save the money with Pompey and Goins

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  7. No Soup For Yu!

    9 years ago

    Not sure it makes much sense to extend either of them since power is one of the first things to go with age and one of them (Encarnacion) is already limited to 1B/DH and he’s the younger of the two. Playing on the turf isn’t going to do them any favors either. I’d let them both walk after this year. Chances are Toronto is only going to really contend for another two years given their lack of pitching depth, or their lack of pitching in general really.

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    • Yogajonny

      9 years ago

      I would love for the Jays to resign both, but I see JB staying and EE walking. Gotta disagree w Yu though. Jays have a solid core of Donaldson, Martin, Tulo, Pillar, Pompey and Goins. Pitching is only going to get better as Stroman hopefully reaches his ace potential and Sanchez and Osuna eventually move to rotation. Connor Greene, Jon Harris and Sean Reid-Foley will all have a chance to shine in the coming years as well. And don’t count out Anthony Alford becoming a stud outfielder either.

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      • Torontopoly

        9 years ago

        Did you seriously just call Goins a part of our core? I mean if bench players are core pieces then I guess he counts. Travis will be starting once he’s back from injury.

        Pompey, a player I’ve liked for a few years, has had an embarrassing stint in the Dominican league so I’m losing a bit of faith after his awful first go at the majoea last year.

        Pillar is still very much a question mark at the plate.

        I’m interested to see what happens with the team but we sold the farm for a playoff run and a lot of things have to go right for us to contend for more than a couple of years.

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  8. bigdaddyt

    9 years ago

    i think jays should sign Joey Bats and try and package EE with one of our 5 number 5 starters and some minor prospects for a top 50 pitching prospect

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    • DAKINS

      9 years ago

      Both JB and EE have 10 and 5 rights. The chances of them being traded are almost zero.

      Reply
  9. tigers1968

    9 years ago

    Do not forget the Canadian dollar is around 72 cents. A salary of 20 million US costs Blue Jay owners 28 million. Most of the Blue Jay revenue is in Canadian dollars. Jays have to be realistic and I think they are going to be. They have enough slugging with just one of the two. They need Jose in the OF for at least one more year. The problem is Jose is going to cost something like 4/110. I would just let the year play out and your decision may be made for you by an unexpected event.. Right now it does not look like EE is a good long term fit for this team.

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  10. TBJ12

    9 years ago

    Why would you want to deal EE for a pitching prospect?

    I think people are really underestimating the Jays rotation. Stroman, Estrada, Dickey, Happ and one of Hutchison/Sanchez/Floyd/Chavez. That’s a much better rotation than they started the season with last year.

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  11. unpaidobserver

    9 years ago

    There’s no way ownership signs off on a deal longer than three years, and I don’t see either player getting less than four on the open market right now. .

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