Tigers second baseman Ian Kinsler is not interested waiving his no-trade protection unless a (hypothetical) acquiring team reaches a new contract with him, his agent Jay Franklin tells Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports. Kinsler is one of several veteran Tigers players who has come up in trade chatter this winter.
Anything is possible, but the demand for an extension would certainly gum up any trade talks between Detroit and any of the rivals who are on Kinsler’s list. He is already 34 years of age, so it isn’t as if he has mid-prime years to sell, and part of his appeal is the relatively limited commitment ($11MM in 2017 and a $10MM option for 2018) that comes with Kinsler’s contract.
Franklin didn’t leave much room for interpretation in his comments. “If one of the 10 teams happens to call and wants to talk about it, we’re open to talking about it,” he said. “[But] they’re going to have to extend him for us to waive the no-trade.” Though the player rep adds that Kinsler is most interested in playing on a winning team, it doesn’t seem as if he’ll entertain any possibilities if they don’t include more years and dollars.
The Dodgers have been rumored to have interest in Kinsler, but are one of the ten organizations to which he must approve a deal. For teams like Los Angeles, who are happy to employ veterans but strive to avoid lengthy entanglements, the demand may be a non-starter.
It’s possible to imagine that some organizations would at least be willing to consider adding to Kinsler’s guarantee — though, perhaps, they won’t be anxious to go too far or too high given his age and two existing years of control. But the need to negotiate with the player and his current team complicates things greatly, since any possible suitor would surely also be looking into alternatives.
It isn’t yet known what other teams are subject to Kinsler’s approval. With 19 teams that aren’t, it’s certainly plausible to think he could be shipped somewhere without having a say. But there are limited teams with a clear need at second base, so depending upon the makeup of the list, Kinsler’s stance could make it quite difficult for the Tigers to pull off a deal — not that the team necessarily feels compelled to do so.
Any idea what the other 9 teams are?
Big market clubs…Yanks, Sox, Cubs, etc.
That’s how it usually is for these guys
That’s sounds like a guess
Typo: employee instead of employ in the last sentence.
Smart move actually. No reason Kinsler should waive his no-trade clause without compensation.
I totally agree, he has been a solid player for along time, he deserves an extention!
Especially if he is happy with the Tigers, and playing out the streak on a losing team.
One game out of the playoffs is a losing team? That’s a slanted point of view.
Huh?
They were a winning ball club. Had lots of injuries and still managed to stay alive to the last day of the season.
What do u think about this trade Wilmer Flores and Hansel Robles and Rafael Montero for Andre Ethier and Luis Avilan
As a Dodgers fan it works I dont see how it works for the Mets.
The Mets have enough left-handed hitting outfielders. They don’t need another one.
Sounds great.
– Dodgers fans
And why would the Mets give up two useful players from their 25 man roster for a 17 million dollar platoon player with two 3 or better WAR seasons in 11 years and a mediocre left handed reliever?
That would be a huge downgrade to get Wilma flowers. Plus they have Corey seager at ss
Then we trade Bruce to bluejays for Russell Martin and Devin Travis
Maybe on ur Xbox or Playstation dude lol
Wouldn’t even get Travis…
There is now way the Blue Jays make that trade. It makes zero sense for them. They create 2 holes to fill one. That trade will never happen
The Blue Jays aren’t trading two players from their starting lineup for Bruce.
Mets are looking for a lefty pitcher and a catcher we can use Ethier in right instead of Bruce and Travis will be a utility player
I thought Travis D’arnaud was the next great Mets catcher? Already looking to replace that HOFer?
Of cause it will help especially if we get Cespedes back
Or we can put Ethier in Cf and Grandy back in right
Oh boy Ethier had a major leg injury last year and his athletic OF days have passed him after his injuries. So good luck with that. I’m not sure he’s waive his 10-5 to go to NY anyway.
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I, too, would demand that LA extends me. That contract MIGHT get you a house there.
Selfish in Texas, selfish in Detroit.
Why is this selfish?
Its his contract.
Why is he selfish to require an extension? That’s what these contractual provisions are put into place for! So he can say NO I’M NOT GOING THERE! It’s totally not selfish to look out for his and his families future. DET or LAD won’t give a damn once his contract is up so why shouldn’t he? Big DET and big Ian Kinsler fan, and I think we should try to trade him for multiple prospects. But don’t blame him a bit for his stance on this
Exactly right!
Ok let’s be honest if contracts weren’t guaranteed do you think owners would have any loyalties to big money players? If you answer is yes then he’s selfish if your answer is no they would have no problem cutting him then it’s the nature of the business. The Tigers took on his contract knowing full well what was in it.
The salt is real in Texas
Ya, what ah jerk. He should give ah break to all those million and billionaire team owners.
He is not selfish at all lol
Actually I’m quite shocked the Dodgers is one of few teams in his limited No-Trade List.
Perhaps he just doesn’t want to live there?
It’s not that uncommon. They put teams on there they know can afford to give him an extension so he has leverage. A lot of players, I would think, have teams like the Yankees and Dodgers on their no trade list, not because they don’t want to go there, but for leverage.
You people didn’t see how Kinsler acted in Texas when he wouldn’t shift positions for Profar or Odor and wouldn’t even mentor them because he was all “me me me”. You can all fight over him–the Rangers have zero interest in a reunion with this clubhouse cancer.
I am a huge baseball fan and I was actually aware of the “situation” he had with not moving positions. Think of it this way. You yourself come up through the high school, college and the Rangers organization as a 2nd baseman. Then your employer says “Hey Ian, please show this kid all the tricks of the trade so we can give him an 8-year megadeal and ship you to whatever organization will take you, if you won’t move to a position you’ve never played before, but that’s only when you’ve got him ready for the pro’s”. Try putting yourself in someone’s shoes before being critical chief! And he has been anything but a “clubhouse cancer” in DET. He’s been awesome, and is one hell of a player!
He’s also been one of the best defensive 2nd basemen during that time, finally being awarded a gold glove. Made no sense to move him from the position in the first place. It would be like moving Kevin Pillar to 1B to make room for Pompey in CF.
I agree. I think we really know very little about these players we cheer for and what happens behind the scenes so we judge quickly based on what we see happening on the surface.
He hasnt been a clubhouse cancer as a Tiger. He did seem selfish after the trade, but hes actually become a veteran leader in Detroit.
Yeah he’s been an incredible clubhouse presence in Detroit. He’s had a big influence on guys like Jose Iglesias and Nick Castellanos, I would think
As an Angels fan and season ticket holder, all I know about Kinsler is that he has always been a real pain over the years and has always been one of those guys that I didn’t want to see in the on deck circle when the game was on the line.. He has a sweet swing capable of hitting to all fields and glove play that borders the exceptional.
Frankly I wish the Angels had the depth to trade with Detroit, I would be more than happy to see him fill our void at 2B and would agree to extend is contract. Why not, it’s not my money, it’s Artie’s!
He is trying to do what Phillip did last year, and how did that work out? No Move, and no new contract..
True, but Kinsler is an exceptionally more productive player than Phillips. Phillips’s all-around production has gone done steadily over the past few years, while Kinslers’ production has been excellent since joining Detroit, in every facet of the game. He could easily score more money now than Phillips could’ve throughout most of his career.