DEC. 16: FanRag’s Jon Heyman and the New York Post’s Joel Sherman both hear that Ziegler is close to a decision (Twitter links). Sherman notes that the Yankees and Mets haven’t been in serious contact with Ziegler’s camp since the Winter Meetings, so he’s likely headed elsewhere. Heyman relays word of a team that has yet to be linked to Ziegler remaining in the mix. (The “mystery team” strikes again!)
Cotillo adds a bit more context to the scenario, tweeting that Ziegler is hoping to come a decision by the end of the day.
DEC. 15, 8:20pm: The question at this point seems to be whether an organization will move up to a full, three-year guarantee, Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports reports (Twitter links). If it’s a two-year arrangement, the final guarantee is expected to end up at around $17MM, he adds.
2:49pm: Right-hander Brad Ziegler is weighing multiple offers and could make a decision in the near future, reports SB Nation’s Chris Cotillo (Twitter link). Ziegler seemingly has multi-year offers on the table — not a surprise in this relief market — and could end up with either a two-year deal (plus an option) or three years, he adds.
Ziegler, who turned 37 in October, is coming off a pair of brilliant seasons split between the Diamondbacks and Red Sox during which he recorded a pristine 2.05 ERA with 6.2 K/9, 2.8 BB/9 and a gaudy 68.1 percent ground-ball rate. The side-arming righty isn’t the typical late-inning power arm that racks up strikeouts while overwhelming opponents — his fastball, in fact, averaged just 83.9 mph in the past two seasons — but his knack for inducing weak contact and keeping the ball on the ground has made him one of baseball’s most successful relievers since debuting as a late-blooming 28-year-old rookie back in 2008.
Over the life of his nine-year Major League career, Ziegler has never posted a single-season ERA higher than 3.49, and he’s kept his ERA under the 3.00 threshold in six of those nine years. Despite a lack of velocity and missed bats, he’s managed to consistently excel, as evidenced by his lifetime 2.44 ERA in the Majors. He figures to land a high-leverage relief spot when he does sign — possibly as a closer — and he’s no stranger to such roles, having amassed 85 saves and 120 holds to this point in his career.
The Diamondbacks, Marlins, Yankees, Rockies and Mets have all been connected to Ziegler to varying levels, although the Yankees and Mets reportedly would need to shed some salary in order to add another free agent to the roster (or, at least, have confidence that they’ll be able to do so). The Rockies, of course, just added southpaw Mike Dunn on a three-year deal earlier today, so it’s not clear if they’ll have continued interest in adding a reliever, and reports have characterized both the D-backs and Red Sox as unlikely landing spots for Ziegler. Still, given the significant number of clubs in the market for bullpen help, it seems likely that Ziegler will be able to command a strong two-year pact, at minimum. Cotillo’s tweet may suggest that no team has been willing to guarantee the third year just yet or that Ziegler has a three-year offer from a club that isn’t a clear-cut contender, although that’s just my own speculation/inference.
Red sox could use him back
I’d like him but rumor is they’re looking for strikeout guys.
We’re the last team that should be picky about our relievers tbh
There are better options out there via trade…A lot better options
Yeah, but compared to what only slightly better relievers are getting (Melancon at 4/$60), a 2/$17 deal sounds like a significant bargain for a guy with a 2.44 lifetime ERA. And his age doesn’t really concern me; he feels like less of an injury risk since he doesn’t throw as hard as other guys.
Agreed! Why aren’t they interested??
Ned need a bullpen arm
I wonder if the O’s are interested. If they signed him, then they would be able to trade one of their high level relievers for an OFer.
Catch tha Taste
would love to see my Jay’s sign him. I’d give him 3 years. His style is going to hold up later in age than most because it’s not based on velocity.
Jays could use a LHP more than Ziegler
Jay’s need both
hooligan, i would agree they need a lefty but tbh they just need someone in the bullpen atm considering their bullpen is: osuna, grilli, biagini, loup, and a bunch of other players who should be in AAA and if grilli goes south and loup doesn’t regain is allstar form he once had we could be in massive trouble
“Catch Tha Taste,” classic name. Long live Roberto Alomar and McCain Frozen Punch! Well done, sir.
My guess Marlins after losing out on Jansen and then letting Dunn go to the Rox earlier today
I’d like the Mets to make a run at him. They need to replace Blevins and Salas, and Ziegler would be a nice option.
Come home to Arizona..
I was hoping that the giants would make a run at him, going from last year’s instability to a smith>ziegler>melancon backend would be nice.
I’ve long thought the Giants would be the ones to sign him
Hoping rSox keep him
Kind of pricey for Boston considering what they have in their bullpen now, when Carson Smith comes back they will have a formidable bullpen
Always enjoyed his style and mechanics. Hope the Yanks get in on him.
Yes, the Yanks could use him, a good bullpen has guys throwing out of different windows.
” and he’s n stranger to such roles”… TYPO!!!!!
Thank goodness that you found that. Now the world can go on spinning.
I don’t see why the Dodgers aren’t interested or at least haven’t been mentioned as a potential fit…he’s a local guy and we are sending quite a few pieces from last year’s bullpen packing so it would make sense to add a few arms to bridge the gap between our starters and Kenley
Because he wants three years.
Time for JD to swoop in and grab him for the Rangers.
JD needs 2 sign EE and try to pull Archer from the rays and texas would take the west again
Bullpens are really important if your rotation is shaky. Orioles.
He’s a perfect fit for the Angels. He would be in front of (perhaps) the best double-play combo in baseball. Of course, Ziegler might want to go to a contender, but I hope the Angles make a competitive offer.
One of my favorite MLB highlights in the last few years comes at the expense of Ziegler –
With Kirk Gibson at the helm of the Diamond backs, Evan MArshall is ordered to hit Ryan Braun. this loads up the bases as Arizona clings to a two-run lead in the seventh inning.
Gibson brings in Ziegler to hopefully finish off the inning all the while Marshall can be visibly seen getting high-fives in the dugout. The first pitch Ziegler throws is launched by Jonathan Lucroy for a home run, a lead the Brewers would not relinquish.
Arizona won tough guy points, but the Brewers won the game.
I’m pretty sure Marshall didn’t hit him on purpose.
They are high fiving him because that’s what you do once a pitcher gets out of a stressful inning, you relax them, calm them down. If Marshall actually threw at Braun, he would be ejected, most of the time umps can see body language the pitcher makes that signals intent.
I mean it’s pretty ignorant for you to give us a recap and I’m not even a diamondbacks fan, but unless it is super obvious from the players body language (which Evan’s was not indicating it) or if them admit intent (Cole Hamels when he hit Bryce Harper as a rookie)
Also you need to think of plausiblity here too. Why hit Ryan Braun when you can intentionally walk him? You’re facing Lucroy either way. Use your brain dude.
Marshall hit him on purpose. The team had been targeting Braun. Also, the team cared much less about Lucroy than it did Braun or “making a statement”. Marshall never even tried to hide the fact, except in “official” statements. He lined Braun up and plunked him in the wallet, smiling about it the entire time.
FOR THE GROUP AND I DON’T KNOW THE ANSWER;ON THE JETER FLIP POSADA CATCHES THE BALL WITH HIS MASK ON,WAS THAT RIGHT AND WHY OR WRONG AND WHY.AGAIN I DON’T KNOW.THANKS
Yes he had the mask on if that’s what your asking. But if your asking if it was the right thing I would say no, the mask can make it tougher to see but it depends on who it is.
That was random.
I wonder what his career would have been like if the phillies never released him… come to think of it, I wonder why the released him in the first place
See my Reds post. Two dumb teams, we have. They should move our two teams to a new division with a couple others. Worst record wins. Our management would get awards for lunacy.
The phils released him after we drafted him. He pitched I think 3 games, I can’t recall exactly how many. But they canned him in ’04. The he went to the independent league to pitch…. I’ll never get the logic behind that move
Hey! How about the Reds! Heck, we’ll give him FIVE years and 50mil! Hot Stove is simply awesome in Cincy. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
He was completely misused by John Farrell. Dombrowski acquired him for an absolute steal and he was wasted. Farrell only brought him in during high leverage, strikeout situations with runners on base. He would’ve been more effective in clean innings.
Or maybe just possibly, Farrell brought him in with men on base because he wanted a guy with an excellent ground ball rate to induce a ground ball double play.
Kinda odd to see NY teams mentioned as needing to shed salary to sign him…
I guess the Rockies were the mystery team in on Ian Desmond, so I’ll say Ziegler goes there too.
I don’t understand why 3y/$20M would be a problem for most teams or why he would be unworthy of such a deal. Maybe even $25M. Whither you believe in him or not, he’s done more that enough to prove his ground ball rate is legit and sustainable. What’s he going to do, start throwing 79mph instead of 82? cmon.
Gotta be the Marlins who are spreading that unspent Jansen money over several late inning arms.
Best guess, due to them losing Brett Cecil, he goes to the Jays for 3 years and $18M.
Be a 8 th inning guy for the White Sox 2 year deal
he wouldn’t sign that as he wants to win now, beside the w sox either wouldn’t sign him or trade him immediately xD
He could sign with the WSox knowing that he’ll be playing for a contender come August.
Would like it to be the Cubs but they probably don’t have the room, and they need a left hander.
2 – 17 seems like a pretty good get
Why don’t the Sox want him??