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Dodgers Notes: Turner, Jansen, Second Base, Puig, Thompson

By Steve Adams | January 12, 2017 at 12:44pm CDT

Kenley Jansen and Justin Turner both spoke with Doug Padilla of ESPN.com to discuss their decisions to return to the Dodgers organization this winter. As the pair explains, they were in Curacao for Jansen’s wedding along with teammates Yasiel Puig and Scott Van Slyke and hadn’t discussed baseball for the first several days of the trip. Amusingly, it was during a haircut when the barber asked the duo about their free agency that they first discussed the decisions at hand with each other and eventually their teammates. “I don’t think either one of us was trying to pressure anyone to make any decision, we were just laying out the options and different situations and experiences,” said Turner. Jansen said that none of the teammates in attendance pressured him, instead respecting any decision he’d make, which only further instilled a bond and a sense of family. Jansen adds that the Dodgers upped their offer from four years to five shortly before his wedding, which helped to tip the scale in Los Angeles’ favor.

“When we were all together it made it tough for me to make a decision to be in another uniform,” said Jansen. “…A few days before my wedding, it seemed as if I was going to Washington. But after the Dodgers came at the end, I couldn’t leave. I wanted to stay.” Dodgers fans should absolutely check out the story in its entirety, as its stuffed with quotes from the newly re-signed pair of stars.

More on the Dodgers…

  • Dodgers president of baseball ops Andrew Friedman spoke with reporters, including Bill Plunkett of the Orange County Register, about his team’s needs at second base, and while he wouldn’t comment specifically on the reported impasse with the Twins in their talks for Brian Dozier, he spoke in general terms about the difficult negotiations. “Throughout the course of a negotiation process there are ups and downs,” said Friedman. “So it’s just a tough thing to assess. But there are a number of different options out there. I think some are more likely than others. But three days from now I could feel very differently and those things could flip.” Plunkett reports that the Dodgers have kept in contact with Chase Utley’s representatives this season, though he doesn’t characterize the extent of their interest at this juncture.
  • MLB.com’s Austin Laymance was also on-hand, and he writes that Friedman offered plenty of praise for Puig and spoke of the outfielder as a piece of the team’s future. “I think the upside is significant, and I think there’s a lot more awareness of kind of what’s expected,” said Friedman. “I definitely see some real maturation. In terms of how that translates on the field and success remains to be seen. But he’s capable of so much, and I know his teammates want to see him achieve that, we want to see him achieve that, and we’ll do everything we can to put him in a position to do that.” Friedman suggested that Puig has developed some bad habits in the batter’s box over the years but made progress in correcting them during his demotion to Triple-A. “What we saw in September was just kind of scratching the surface of that…” Friedman added, referencing a month that saw Puig rake at a .281/.338/.561 clip (albeit in just 65 PAs). Puig’s name has been bandied about the rumor mill for the past year or so, but a trade doesn’t seem especially likely at this point.
  • Outfielder Trayce Thompson has “slowly progressed” from a pair of stress fractures in his back that preemptively ended his season back in July, per Friedman (via Laymance). He’s yet to swing a bat and may not be ready for early workouts in Spring Training, but the Dodgers believe he’ll be up to speed at some point before the regular season begins. “We expect him, at some point in Spring Training, to be kind of full go,” said the Dodger president.
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  1. Gogerty

    8 years ago

    Makes me wonder what LAD would do to fill the 2B hole if they weren’t aiming so high. Granted biased as a Braves fan, but think the return would not have to be as high on a younger Jace Peterson. No doesn’t have the same pop, but 3 years younger and ABs are building. Plus younger than the mentioned Utley.

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    • stubby66

      8 years ago

      Cmon Dodgers think you and the Brewers should do a trade of Puig for Scooter and Santana or Phillips.

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      • alexgordonbeckham

        8 years ago

        Braun and Scooter. Open those talks back up.

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        • baseballdeez

          8 years ago

          Brewers would trade Santana or Phillips + Scooter for Puig in a heartbeat. Braun + Scooter for Puig + prospects is what should be revisited

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        • kla1214

          8 years ago

          Keep Braun and go sign Trumbo. Don’t need a head case like Puig. And on that point Trade Scooter too.

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      • davidcoonce74

        8 years ago

        Scooter Gennet doesn’t hep the Dodgers’ weakness against lefties. He might be the very worst hitter versus lefties in all of baseball.

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    • tommyl

      8 years ago

      If they weren’t aiming as high, they could settle on one of their own internal options: Kike, Barnes, etc. But they are specifically looking for big right-handed pop, so I doubt they would go any lesser than someone like Dozier, Kinsler or Forsythe unless they also added pop elsewhere, like Braun…

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      • mcdusty31

        8 years ago

        Not sure that Forsythe would bring the kind of pop we would like to have

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        • Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA

          8 years ago

          He has more than enough pop.

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    • dodgrbluu

      8 years ago

      Dodgers don’t want another LH player. If they end talks with the Twins for Dozier, there is a number of other RH 2b options open. Doubt the Dodgers try and do a trade for Jace Peterson. I think the Dodgers resign Utley before making a deal with the Braves for another LH 2b.

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      • davidcoonce74

        8 years ago

        Utley bats left handed.

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        • yoyo137

          8 years ago

          I think that was his point, that if the Dodgers aren’t getting a RH 2b with power in a trade, they’re better off signing Utley outright than dealing prospects for a LH in a trade

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    • robobob909

      8 years ago

      Dodgers just signed right handed Cuban second baseman Jose Miguel Fernandez to a minor league contract. Over eight seasons in Cuba’s Serie Nacional, Fernandez batted .319/.403/.423 with 105 doubles, six triples, 37 home runs and 318 RBI.

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      • vtadave

        8 years ago

        He hits left-handed.

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      • davidcoonce74

        8 years ago

        Fernandez is a left-handed hitter who hasn’t played competitively in two years. And he’s been playing mostly third base anyway – BA doesn’t think his defense at second is that good. There wasn’t much of a demand for him this offseason; I doubt he’s much more than a depth piece.

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    • dodgerblue88

      8 years ago

      I’ve long been an advocate of hanging on to younger players. It’s easy to dream of what they can become, but the reality is that rarely happens.

      At some point we need to make a move and push some chips into the center of the table. The Cubs showed us last year that sometimes you have to do something that hurts to take a shot. I’m sure Chapman felt like an overpay at the time, and maybe Torres will make it look even worse in the future, but as they say, flags fly forever.

      Is it really worth hanging on to Buehler or Alvarez to forego getting Dozier? Kersh is 28 with a potential back injury lingering and only 2 years of control left. JT isn’t young. Hill isn’t a spring chicken to say the least. I’m all for building a super team of prospects, but to get a title, aren’t we better off giving it a shot with our current core? If Buehler develops in 2 years and Alvarez is ready as well, but now JT is 34, Hill is 38. So what we gain in production from the kids we lose in declining performance from our core in all likelihood.

      I’d rather take a 2 year shot now, and just pray Alvarez or Buehler don’t bite us later.

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      • Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA

        8 years ago

        The example you cited occurred at the deadline.

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      • Wolf Hoffmann

        8 years ago

        No.

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      • mcdusty31

        8 years ago

        It’s a fine line…obviously Chapman was a fine addition that put them over the hump…does Dozier do that right now? Quite possibly…but even if we hang on to those young guys for now it’s more than likely they can still be sent somewhere at the deadline…I want Dozier don’t get me wrong, and I think he ultimately ends up on the Dodgers but I’m ok with them being cautious of what and how much we give up because we may end up needing some help on the big league pitching staff this year or like I said we may be able to deploy these guys at the deadline for a more clear need

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      • chesteraarthur

        8 years ago

        Like last year when the dodgers acquired rich hill and Reddick?

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        • dodgerblue88

          8 years ago

          Trading Montas, Holmes and Cotton was similar to our usual MO of tinkering around the edges. Holmes and Cotton may turn into something, but realistically they were buried on our depth chart for several years ahead and so were easily expendable.

          Getting Hill and Reddick wasn’t a chips to the center moment. It’s was buying low on Hill since he was on the DL at the time, and getting a platoon partner for our enigmatic RF, when the last thing in the world we needed was another LH hitting outfielder. When we need to put a second baseman in the outfield because he happens to hit RH, that should say something.

          The only reason we have the luxury of waiting out the Twins on Dozier is simply because they don’t have to move him, and there aren’t any other strong fits. Waiting them out me lead to us getting a better deal, or it may lead to an injury or underperformance on another team turning it into a stiff competition for his services.

          Realistically where do DeLeon, Alvarez or Buehler fit on this staff until 2019?

          1. Kershaw
          2. Hill
          3. Maeda
          4. Urias
          5. Insert any of the 5 other candidates on our roster already

          Is DeLeon and Buehlers future worth the risk of wasting the few solid seasons we have left from CK, JT, AGone, and Hill? To make 15-20 starts in the 5-spot of the rotation? Or do we push like hell for the next two years?Just food for thought.

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        • mcdusty31

          8 years ago

          Yes sir

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  2. mcdusty31

    8 years ago

    So glad to have these guys back in the fold!

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  3. Mark 20

    8 years ago

    I think two obvious needs can be filled with this proposition. And its a fair one, not the crazy trades I see proposed.

    To the blue jays: Yasiel Puig + Andre Ethier + Alex Wood+ 15m
    To the dodgers: Devon Travis + Dalton Pompey + Darrell Cecillani

    Toronto fills its two OF spots, and its LHRP spot and gets a little cash to offset Ethiers salary. Dodgers get a stud second basemen, albeit with health concerns, a nice young OF prospect in Pompey and a bit of Outfield depth in Cecillani.

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  4. clintwolfrom

    8 years ago

    Are the padres really moving to LA? Sad, hate to see that happen

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    • BlueSkyLA

      8 years ago

      Uh, that would be the Chargers.

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      • clintwolfrom

        8 years ago

        oh, that’s still lame

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  5. wilymo

    8 years ago

    justin turner gets haircuts?

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    • wilymo

      8 years ago

      haha, reading the story, apparently not – the guy was cutting kenley’s hair and turner was just there

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      • BlueSkyLA

        8 years ago

        Yeah but I bet his hair was really scared.

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    • mcdusty31

      8 years ago

      Maybe he was getting a hair cut…new contract, new man…we know he can definitely afford a shave and haircut these days

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  6. greenmonster08

    8 years ago

    Puig is like the once hot now doughy trophy wife – Dodgers just can’t let go in case “she” loses weight

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    • chesteraarthur

      8 years ago

      But puig wont take half their stuff

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      • Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA

        8 years ago

        And Puig probably gets rave reviews for putting out.

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  7. baseball216781

    8 years ago

    This will never happen if dodgers never traded dee gorden

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    • Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA

      8 years ago

      Instead they would have been looking for a 2b mid season last year. And they’d still be looking for power against LHP because Gordon does not provide that. So in a sense yes they would have.

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  8. RealisticYankeeFan

    8 years ago

    How about a trade for Starlin Castro? A right handed controllable bat. Offers some decent pop and when he gets hot he really gets hot. Definitely cheaper than Dozier as well

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  9. dodgerblue88

    8 years ago

    Why is my earlier comment stuck “awaiting moderation”? Are there automatic triggers?

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