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Free Agent Notes: Bautista, Blue Jays, Braves, Tigers, Indians

By Steve Adams | January 9, 2017 at 1:35pm CDT

Speculation about Jose Bautista ultimately signing a one-year deal is growing throughout the industry, writes Sportsnet’s Ben Nicholson-Smith. The Blue Jays were recently said to be in active talks with Bautista, and Nicholson-Smith notes that he spoke with execs from two other clubs that considered Bautista the exact type of player that could end up as a significant bargain if he’s had on a one-year pact. Nicholson-Smith adds that there’s still a belief in the industry that Toronto would be perfectly happy to let Bautista depart, sign elsewhere, and collect a compensatory draft pick. However, the Jays do still need two corner outfielders, and Bautista is a known commodity among the fans, in the clubhouse and on the field for Toronto.

A few more notes on the free-agent market…

  • Nicholson-Smith also reports that the Blue Jays are continuing to hunt for a backup catcher after seeing one target, Bobby Wilson, sign a minor league contract with the Dodgers. Per Nicholson-Smith, the Blue Jays wanted to sign the 33-year-old Wilson, but he elected to sign with the Dodgers after Toronto declined to offer his camp any assurances that additional catchers would not be pursued. Among the options still on the market are Chris Iannetta, Nick Hundley, Kurt Suzuki and Jarrod Saltalamacchia, to name a few.
  • The Braves are still open to adding a bench bat despite having a full 40-man roster at the moment, and both Kelly Johnson and Jeff Francoeur are possibilities, per David O’Brien of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution (Twitter link). This would mark the third straight year in which the Braves signed Johnson as a free agent and his fourth overall stint with the team that originally drafted him, if an agreement is ultimately reached. It’d also represent the third stint with the Braves for Francoeur and the second consecutive offseason in which he inked a deal with Atlanta.
  • The Tigers are known to be on the lookout for some help in center field, but they didn’t show interest in Ben Revere before he signed with the Angels and haven’t had any serious discussions with Austin Jackson about a return to Detroit, reports MLB.com’s Jason Beck. Last week, Anthony Fenech of the Detroit Free Press reported that the Tigers are looking for a center field option that would cost around $2MM. Jackson could fit that bill after missing the last three months of the 2016 season with a knee injury, though Beck’s report paints that as unlikely. Last week, I took a look at a few other options the Tigers could consider as well.
  • Any further additions made by the Indians this winter seem likely to be low-cost in nature following the signing of Edwin Encarnacion. Cleveland GM Mike Chernoff implied to Ryan Lewis of the Akron Beacon-Journal that the team’s remaining resources are somewhat limited. “Obviously with a commitment like this, we couldn’t bring either [Mike Napoli] or [Rajai Davis] back at the dollars they would have cost,” said Chernoff. “Raj gave us a huge amount last year, too. You could see him potentially being a fit again with the role he had last year. I think we have a lot of internal pieces that can fill some of those spots.” Davis signed a one-year, $6MM deal with Oakland last week, so Chernoff’s suggestion that he was too expensive could well signal that any final additions will be rather minimal in nature. As Lewis further notes, that could lead to a bit less depth in the outfield and on other areas of the roster than Cleveland brass would otherwise prefer.
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  1. jonscriff

    8 years ago

    he won’t sign until June if he doesn’t sign a 1 year deal… No one wants a declining player who will at best hit .230 with decent pop , id rather sign chris carter over him .

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    • Michael Macaulay-Birks

      8 years ago

      Yeah, that five-year $150 million payday is looking further and further away isn’t it? Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy

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    • shadybats19

      8 years ago

      Boy I’m sure glad you’re not the GM of my favourite team. Signing a one-dimensional all-or-nothing hitter like Carter who will strike out 200 times per year over a guy with an OPS consistently over .800 despite the low batting average is completely stupid.

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      • jdgoat

        8 years ago

        Ya even if he hits .230 (which he won’t again), he’ll still walk 100 plus times with at least 20 homers.

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      • Dock_Elvis

        8 years ago

        Rockies could snag him..they already blew the #11 overall on Ian Desmond to man first sack…could use Bautista over there. Bautista could then possibly prove that he’s a decent 1B going into the next offseason when someone might want to sign him as a 1B/DH type.

        I just dont see many teams blowing a pick for one year of Bautista. Maybe a team like the A’s if they feel the return on a deadline trade outweighs the draft pick. 36 and declining…should have worked out a reasonable extension ith Toronto a long time ago. He or his agency was blowing smoke up his jock strap.

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        • jenkmanvegas

          8 years ago

          where would Desmond play

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        • Dock_Elvis

          8 years ago

          It’d free them to trade a middle infielder or an outfielder for pitching….Desmond can move back to a position where his offense is more valuable. Maybe they just keep him there….and if they extend CarGo…they can eventually move him in to 1B.

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    • patborders92

      8 years ago

      I listened to that interview with Jeff Blair, for information purposes only they said any deal with th Jays for Cutch would have to include Vladdy Guerro Jr.

      So if that’s your alternative you might as well pony up with Bautista and punt that pick you would of received.

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      • Doc Halladay

        8 years ago

        Yeah I really don’t want to see Vladdy Jr dealt. He may only be 17 but he’s already showing an advanced approach at the plate with loads of power potential.

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        • SuperSinker

          8 years ago

          And if he’s only a 1st baseman he’s going to have to crush at every level to look viable. His body is already getting too big.

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        • Dock_Elvis

          8 years ago

          He was HUGE….has he lost weight at all? I havent seen him for awhile. He looked like Prince Fielder already

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        • canadianblue

          8 years ago

          Actually he’s played some third base and they said he looked pretty decent there

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        • SuperSinker

          8 years ago

          He has a lot of years to go and if he loses a step or two in that type the only other place is 1B. I’m betting he ends up there if he gets to the big leagues.

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        • patborders92

          8 years ago

          He’s got a big bat, but he has no clear position, he’s a future 1B/DH type. It’s hard to imagine him lasting at 3B, but he’s got the Guerro pedigree so I’m sure he’s being overvalued.

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    • monk

      8 years ago

      I’m guessing you don’t value obp whatsoever if you’d rather have Chris carter over Jose

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    • 888sports

      8 years ago

      go back to your fantasy team…

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  2. Michael Macaulay-Birks

    8 years ago

    Instead of the Tigers only being able to afford 2 million for a centerfielder, another point of view would be that they can’t afford Cabrera, Upton and to an extent Verlander…2 million? Seriously?

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    • sufferforsnakes

      8 years ago

      Ilich just needs to sell a few more pizzas, that’s all.

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      • Dock_Elvis

        8 years ago

        Im doing what I can for Ilitch…man I can only get into so much Hot N Ready.

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    • marmaduke

      8 years ago

      2 million? In 2017? WTF? C’mon Tigers

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      • stymeedone

        8 years ago

        Have you looked closely at whats available in FA for CF? $2MM is an overpay.

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    • Mr Pike

      8 years ago

      I’d rather be looking for a cheap replacement for Maybin than a replacement for Cabrera, Upton or Verlander in this market. They are doing it the right way. They just haven’t gotten much luck and haven’t gotten hot at the right time.

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      • JaysFan19

        8 years ago

        Why not take a flyer on a reunion with Jackson.. Not like the tigers will be big contenders in that division this year anyway

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  3. clintwolfrom

    8 years ago

    My Jays can’t lose both Edwin and Joey. I say give him 5 years $150 mill with an opt out during the 4th year

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    • nacbram

      8 years ago

      crazy

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    • The Oregonian

      8 years ago

      Talk about bidding against themselves! Wow

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    • jayswethenorth

      8 years ago

      Are you out of your mind!! Please No.

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    • sufferforsnakes

      8 years ago

      This is sarcasm, right?

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    • nowaydude

      8 years ago

      You obviously don’t watch baseball that much That would be a horrible idea. 1 year max

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    • vtadave

      8 years ago

      Lots of broken sarcasm detectors here.

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      • stormie

        8 years ago

        Or a bad attempt at sarcasm (if it is indeed sarcasm).

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    • baseballmanak

      8 years ago

      umm, is this sarcasm?? they could prob get him for 5 years and 10 million

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    • jd396

      8 years ago

      No, don’t risk it, offer him 10-300

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    • coloredpaper

      8 years ago

      This was so good that it overloaded many sarcasm detectors.

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  4. Doc Halladay

    8 years ago

    Bautista for one year makes loads of sense for the Jays, doubly so if they add another OF as well and Jose rotates between RF, 1st and DH.

    As for a backup C, I still think Navarro profiles best as both a good backup C and strong insurance against a potential Martin injury. Navarro may not be good defensively but he’s very familiar with the staff(which is a plus) and calls a decent game.

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    • demmer19

      8 years ago

      Totally agree, sign Navarro! He will be a good option off the bench too.

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    • SuperSinker

      8 years ago

      It doesn’t really matter how good a game you call if you can’t receive. He torpedo’d many of the White Sox pitchers last year with his awful presentation of the strike zone.

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      • jaysfan77

        8 years ago

        He’d just be a back up, if Martin is healthy he’s only gonna play 35 games

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        • SuperSinker

          8 years ago

          What indications are there that Martin will be healthy? He’s a year older and has battled injuries much of the past two years. You might want him to play ~130 games but that’s an awfully hard benchmark to reach.

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        • JaysFan19

          8 years ago

          They wanna take most of the workload off Martin these next few years though, he’ll play the least he has in awhile this year you’d think

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      • Doc Halladay

        8 years ago

        @SuperSinker

        Navarro was bad for the ChiSox no doubt but I like his track record in TO. He’s never been a good(or even average) framer but his lone full year as a starter in TO in 2014, he was solid if unspectacular. He was key to Stroman’s initial success and he is widely praised for Marco Estrada’s emergence in 2015.

        Like I said, he has a good familiarity that strangely defies the defensive metrics and leads to good results with the Jays rotation.

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  5. Dogham

    8 years ago

    Chris Ianetta would be a good fit for the Jay’s if they are looking for someone to strikeout with runners on base in key situations.

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    • madmartigan

      8 years ago

      They already have a bunch of those types. Ianetta would fit in perfectly. 🙂

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      • Stro-Show

        8 years ago

        Can’t be worse than thole

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  6. imnak

    8 years ago

    I think a lot of it has to do with Brantley. If Brantley comes back healthy, we’re not in too bad of shape with the OF. Brantley, Almonte, Chisenhall, Guyer, Naquin, potentially Zimmer. Ramirez could play a passable OF as well. It isn’t ideal, but I think we’ll be fine.

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    • Burgeezy

      8 years ago

      Yandy Diaz will likely play some outfield during the season as well. Agree we will be fine.

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    • sufferforsnakes

      8 years ago

      Exactly. And with Yandy Diaz also at AAA, the Tribe is just fine.

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  7. Dookie Howser, MD

    8 years ago

    I really hope the Braves resign Johnson so they can trade him to the Mets again this summer.

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    • sufferforsnakes

      8 years ago

      I know my mom is hoping they re-sign Frenchy. She’s always been a fan of his.

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      • brandons-3

        8 years ago

        I’ll take a wild guess and say she’s a fan not because of his on field play. 😉

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  8. Chrysostom

    8 years ago

    Tigers NEED to sign Desmond Jennings

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    • stymeedone

      8 years ago

      Do you know if he’s even healthy enough to play the OF, let alone CF? Last seen, putting him in CF would not be wise. What the Tigers NEED is a CF that has range and can go get the ball.

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  9. demmer19

    8 years ago

    Bautista played some solid years for a reasonable salary, underpaid actually! You don’t need to go crazy and give him the farm, but would be nice to give him a couple years…2/30 mil. Show him we care a little in TO!

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    • patborders92

      8 years ago

      But when he gave a ridiculous price of $150M, you almost want to see him get penny pinched for being so greedy. He was the guy they wanted to retain over Edwin last offseason and they apparently were willing to give him a Cespedes type contract.

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      • coloredpaper

        8 years ago

        Did he actually say it though? I thought all he would say was that he wanted to get paid? He never actually came out and said a number to the media, if my memory is correct.

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        • jdgoat

          8 years ago

          It’s true he said those reports were false.

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        • Doc Halladay

          8 years ago

          I don’t believe he outright said it but many respected Jays journalists with high ranking sources did confirm the 5/$150 back in Spring, which was Jose’s demand to not test FA.

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        • aff10

          8 years ago

          It was an obviously outlandish number that clearly reflected, as you note, his desire to test FA next offseason. It seems that the 150 number bothered a lot of people. Would he have been better served to just say that he was unwilling to consider an extension, rather than throwing out a ridiculous number?

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    • jaysfan77

      8 years ago

      Matt Holliday has much better career numbers, same age, some injury issues like Bautista, no draft pick comp. he got 13 million, one year, Bautista needs to wake up.

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  10. frankthetank1985

    8 years ago

    Jays should trade for Bruce and include Travis d or plawecki (spelling?) for catcher. Give up some prospects, Pompey, and pay for Bruce’s contract.

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    • SuperSinker

      8 years ago

      Bruce isn’t good, D’Arnaud is constantly hurt and Plawecki looks like a backup offensively.

      Nothing that really improves their chances.

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  11. zdrroth

    8 years ago

    How about a trade involving the tigers/mets

    Tigers get: lagares
    Mets get: Justin Wilson

    Mets sign Austin Jackson 1yr / 3 mil to play against lhp because they will be starting cespedas/grandy/conforto most days.

    Solves Detroit’s cf problem and gives the mets the lefty arm in the bullpen

    thoughts?

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    • babyk79

      8 years ago

      I personally like it, because I always like trades that full needs for both clubs, but I don’t think the mets want to give up on lagares yet with his extension still kind of expensive if he’s just a 4th OF and I’m unsure it would accomplish Detroits goal of shaving payroll.

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    • stymeedone

      8 years ago

      A lefty reliever like Wilson is worth more than Lagares, if you have been following this years FA’s. I think Detroit can do better for Wilson.

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  12. chesteraarthur

    8 years ago

    the mets should just sign kelly johnson

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  13. Deke

    8 years ago

    If a team signs Bautista for a year, can they extend him a QO next year? Suppose it doesn’t matter as much next year with the CBA changing. It might make sense for him to take a one year deal and go back to the market when he doesn’t have the existing draft pick hanging over him.

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    • chesteraarthur

      8 years ago

      Yes they can. The problem arises with the fact that the team signing him this year would have to give up the pick to have him for 1 year. It makes some sense, i guess, for teams that have a protected pick or have already lost their first round pick, but that limits his market.

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      • Dookie Howser, MD

        8 years ago

        Don’t think this is true. I thought it was limited to one?
        twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/80416839839766937…

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        • chesteraarthur

          8 years ago

          i thought that would apply starting with the new cba onward. Perhaps you are correct tho, my mistake.

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    • Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA

      8 years ago

      No they can only be extended a QO one time. So whoever signs him looses the pick and gets no compensation next year.

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  14. squish

    8 years ago

    Braves gotta sign Kelly Johnson so they can trade him to the mets again

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  15. Phillies2017

    8 years ago

    Ok so my response to each point in the article
    1.) Blue Jays purchased the contract of AJ Jiminez who is out of options, in November. As of now his main competitor is Ohlman. I think signing a guy to a minor league deal would be fine as a fallback but I would like to see Jimenez or Ohlman get a chance.
    2.) The Tigers should snag either Jennings or Jackson or just live with Gose and hope it clicks. Theyre not really playing for anything this year.
    Dont spend the $2 million- just go NRI.
    3.) Braves have S-Rod and Jace. No need for another second baseman. Come mid-2017, Markaikas is traded, S-Rod moves to the Outfield and Albies replaces Peterson who becomes a solid utility player. Rodriguez could be traded offseason or next deadline due to 2-year deal. Plouffe makes more sense to compliment Garcia at third. Highest corner INF in the minors is Balbino Fuenmayor (to my knowledge). While he has power, he’s more of a preform to get a call-up as opposed to wait for injury type guy.

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    • SuperSinker

      8 years ago

      Fuenmayor is a 1B all the way I’m pretty sure.

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    • patborders92

      8 years ago

      You need a better insurance policy than Jimenez, how bad would that be for the jays if Martin got hurt? I would like the Jays to resign Navarro

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  16. GarryHarris

    8 years ago

    Whatever deal the Tigers make, Tiger fans are not going to like it.

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  17. slider32

    8 years ago

    I don’t think I’ve ever seen a player fall off in free agency like Bautista. Maybe Cruz, but he was coming off a PED suspension.

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  18. jimmertee

    8 years ago

    I think Bautista has 2 very good years left in him, the question for the Jays is price. They didn’t want to sign him at the qualifying price rate so that means 15 mill max for the Jays. With the market the way it is, Bautista will play eventually somewhere and get paid very well. Even is he has to wait through spring training, because it is evitable that injuries happen and team plans fall apart and a club is going to need a slugger like him. 2 years 15/m per year.

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    • jaysfan77

      8 years ago

      Matt Holliday got a 13 million one year deal, same age, same type player, his career stats are actually much better than Bautista.

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  19. rper4182

    8 years ago

    Lots of power threats not helped market

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  20. jaysrule1399

    8 years ago

    Really could be one corner outfielder if the Jays go with Upton/Pillar/Carrera. Mind you it would be nice to see a bit of an upgrade over Carrera.

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    • patborders92

      8 years ago

      Carrera at least brings something with the bat. I would like to see an upgrade over Upton, he’s basically the black Colby Rasmus

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    • jimmertee

      8 years ago

      With Carrera and Upton in the outfield, the Jays are not playoff bound. They are complimentary pieces, albeit good ones. We need an very good to elite player at one of the corners in the outfield, at least 1 more quality reliever, and a top of the rotation starter beyond the current rotation and prospects.

      Reply
  21. Wolf Hoffmann

    8 years ago

    Dodgers should make a run at him with a one year deal. Put him in LF.

    Reply
  22. TacomaGrit

    8 years ago

    It looks like the Braves are dumpster diving again!

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