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NL West: Padres, Ryu, Desmond

By Jeff Todd | February 24, 2017 at 4:52pm CDT

Here’s the latest out of the National League West:

  • The Padres are “open-minded” to quite a bit of experimentation in the way they deploy their roster in 2017, as manager Andy Green explains and Bryce Miller of the San Diego Union-Tribune reports. Beyond the quirk of carrying Christian Bethancourt as a catcher, outfielder, and relief pitcher, San Diego will look for other ways of taking advantage of creativity. “I think a lot of teams come in with more established options at different spots,” Green explains. “We’re going to be open-minded to see who rises up and wins the respective jobs and be opportunistic to put guys in positions to succeed that might run different than what other clubs would do.” Just how far the Pads go in tweaking baseball convention remains to be seen; while it won’t likely make much of a difference in their postseason outlook, some new approaches could conceivably pave the way for future change in San Diego as well as other organizations.
  • The Dodgers are seeing signs of life from lefty Hyun-Jin Ryu, with pitching coach Rick Honeycutt telling reporters — including Bill Plunkett of the Orange County Register (links to Twitter) — that the Korean hurler is ready to throw in a game situation. It’s unclear whether that’ll be a sim game or a Cactus League contest, but it seems the former is more likely. “No negatives to me,” Honeycutt said of Ryu’s showing thus far. “It’s been impressive.” The 29-year-old is looking to return to the excellent form he showed during his first two years with the Dodgers. He has missed all of the past two seasons (except for one ill-fated outing last year) due to persistent shoulder problems.
  • While many have panned the Rockies’ large expenditure on Ian Desmond, in large part due to the fact that he’s slated to shift from being an up-the-middle defender to a first baseman, Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports identifies some reasons to support the move. Manager Bud Black says the team was focused less on position than it was the desire to “go get a baseball player who is good.” While Desmond was targeted as a first baseman from the get-go, per the report, GM Jeff Bridich notes that “there is absolutely the potential” he’ll change positions in the future. And Desmond himself is embracing the challenge of yet another new position much as he did his move to the outfield last year, saying he likes the Rockies’ “creativity to use my athleticism.” Of course, those statements don’t necessarily counteract the core criticisms of the deal, though they do suggest that the team is looking to be creative and flexible in building out a roster — now and in the future.
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  1. BlueSkyLA

    8 years ago

    A healthy Ryu would be a great problem to have. They could dispense with either or both of McCarthy and Kazmir and still have plenty of depth.

    Reply
    • tommyLA

      8 years ago

      I think kaz is pretty dispensable now. I think they were really hoping he would exercise that opt out. Kersh,hill,ryu,Urias,kaz.. that’s a lot of lefties.. McCarthy needs to be in there and I think kaz is the odd man in there. And I didn’t even mention Maeda.

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      • Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA

        8 years ago

        The lefty thing doesn’t matter all that much because come mid season if Urias is up to speed. You’ll have three completely different looks. You shouldn’t even classify Kershaw as a lefty. So yes Kaz and McCarthy are expandable. The issue is they have to prove they are healthy and stay healthy or else they are immovable. Ryu would be an added bonus. That being said it should be fun to watch Urias and Stewart take the next step along with Maeda.

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      • BlueSkyLA

        8 years ago

        Could be, but merit should be the determining factor and probably will be. Kazmir supposedly got himself into bad mechanical habits to compensate for his hurt and is working them out now. McCarthy seemed to be physically healthy at the end, but got a bad case of the yips. Ideally Maeda is shifted down the rotation where they can give him a day off here and there. But then he reportedly bulked up over the winter and might have enough muscle mass to pitch on the MLB timeline now. Lots of stops on this wheel of fortune.

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      • Dretorade

        8 years ago

        McCarthy straight up just cant throw anymore. I hope it’s better this year, but I felt like it was 50 cent pitching last year at times watching him. I understand coming off Tommy john and all that

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        • BlueSkyLA

          8 years ago

          On his first two comeback starts McCarthy was really good, surprisingly sharp. Then his control went south for no apparent reason. He’ll be an interesting character to watch in spring training.

          Reply
    • davidcoonce74

      8 years ago

      Ryu has missed, what, two seasons now? I can’t honestly think of any pitcher who has missed two straight seasons to shoulder injury who has come back effectively.

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    • Circlechange4321

      8 years ago

      Hate to be Debbie here but I just don’t see him coming back. I’d bet his career is over, for 2 years now. ( i hope I’m wrong)

      Reply
    • padreforlife

      8 years ago

      Ryu could be diff in winning elusive pennant Dodgers been chasing for almost 30 years. Ryu was good pitcher in post season.

      Reply
  2. blueblood1217

    8 years ago

    Great news on Ryu. Having him back and healthy would be a huge plus for The Dodgers

    Reply
  3. TheGreatTwigog

    8 years ago

    When I saw Desmond I half expected it to say something like “Desmond to take reps at catcher.”

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    • hamelin4mvp

      8 years ago

      Best hitting catcher in the league. Pitch framing and pass balls….maybe juuuuust a bit of work to do

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      • biasisrelitive

        8 years ago

        not better than Posey

        Reply
        • hamelin4mvp

          8 years ago

          Coors Field

          Reply
      • drstevenhorn

        8 years ago

        Desmond certainly doesn’t earn rave reviews for his defense at catcher.

        My bad.

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        • IACub

          8 years ago

          It’s back…

          1
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        • GareBear

          8 years ago

          This comment gets rave reviews

          1
          Reply
        • lesterdnightfly

          8 years ago

          No, he’s no Pete O’Brien.
          But then, who is?

          1
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        • Doc Halladay

          8 years ago

          No he is no Pete O’Brien but only Pete O’Brien can be Pete O’Brien but even Pete O’Brien is hardly Pete O’Brien.

          Reply
  4. pat09

    8 years ago

    Ryu just can’t stay healthy. He is not gonna make it to june

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  5. arcadia Ldogg

    8 years ago

    Ryu is the Dodgers new Darren Dreifort.

    Reply
    • trolleydodger

      8 years ago

      But Dreifort didn’t have 2 good years to
      decline from. But hey, he could Hit!

      Reply
  6. al080991

    8 years ago

    You forgot Wood BlueSkyLA

    Reply
    • BlueSkyLA

      8 years ago

      Not forgotten but probably a swingman for now.

      Reply
  7. SixFlagsMagicPadres

    8 years ago

    The Padres will be trying everything to get people to come to the games this season. Though I must say, I’m kind of excited to see how Bethancourt fares on the mound.

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    • YourDaddy

      8 years ago

      He has been hitting 97-98 on the radar in camp. If he can command that fastball and learn at least one other pitch he should be able to eat some of the many garbage innings we will have this year.

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  8. 66TheNumberOfTheBest

    8 years ago

    I”ve pitched the idea of the Pirates getting McCarthy or (preferably) Kazmir if their young pitchers look iffy in spring training. They’ve been linked to each of these guys whenever they are free agents or on the trade block.

    But maybe Ryu would be the way to go.

    He could eat some innings and room with Kang on the road. He knows how to say “you’ve had too many” in Korean.

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    • Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA

      8 years ago

      It’s interesting though, because McCarthy could technically fit the Pirates extremely well. He does have a conditional club option in 19 for pennies, 5M, which was triggered due to his DL time. He’s healthy. He seems like a prime Pirates rec project.

      Reply
  9. Wolf Hoffmann

    8 years ago

    Does it really matter how you utilize terrible players? The Padres are excited about using a terrible catcher / OF as a terrible relief pitcher.

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    • trolleydodger

      8 years ago

      Well put!
      Wish I’d said that.

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      • lesterdnightfly

        8 years ago

        “Wish I’d said that.”

        “–You will, Oscar, you will…..”

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    • thebighurt619

      8 years ago

      Actually, it does matter.

      This isnt the first nor last time teams have tried making light hitting catchers into pitchers.

      Kenley Jansen, Chris Hatcher, Troy Percival, Jason Motte, come to mind as catchers turned pitcher.

      Who knows how this experiment will work but on a bad team if they catch lighning in a bottle and he produces decent results how is that not a win for the padres? Relief pitching isnt cheap now a days in trades and FA contracts.

      Reply
      • lowtalker1

        8 years ago

        Beth isn’t exactly a light highing catcher he has pop hits for an ok avg… his catching skills on the other hand…

        Reply
  10. YourDaddy

    8 years ago

    I think Green is full of it. The 1st 4 slots in the rotation are locked up. We signed those 4 guys to start. They may only be able to go 5 innings, but if we had anyone better than them then Preller would not have signed them. No team runs out a lesser pitcher just because the starter has gone 3 innings and 2 of those guys get better in innings 4-6. There is a competition only for the #5 starter. I expect that Friedrich will be that starter only because Cosart and Clemens have no options and only have 2 pitches and have much better velocity. They are better suited to the pen. Perdomo has options so he starts the season in El Paso.
    1B is locked up. 2B is locked up at least to start the season. 3B is locked up. RF is locked up. LF is locked up. Catcher is locked up. The only questions or battles for position players are whether Margot is sent down to start the season and whether Sardinas or Aybar is the opening day SS.
    The bench is Bethancourt, Aybar or Sardinas, Jankowski, Spangenberg and Torrens. The only way Cordoba makes the team is if Aybar doesn’t.
    Saying anything else is just blowing smoke.

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    • davidcoonce74

      8 years ago

      Tandem starters are actually a great idea, especially for a team like the 2017 Padres, who are going to lose 110 games. But the rosters just aren’t big enough. LaRussa tried this in 1993 and abandoned it after about two weeks. Padres didn’t sign a bunch of lousy starters on make-good contracts only to change their role on the team. This kind of system would involve tremendous buy-in from the pitchers involved and I doubt a mercurial guy like Jered Weaver would buy into this kind of plan, for example.

      Reply
    • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

      8 years ago

      … probably accurate
      Renfroe should still spend the first month in AAA tho. His 2023 season is more valuable than 1 month of him in a season where the Padres would be best suited shooting for the #1 overall pick.
      Better prospects that filled bigger needs than him have been sent down to protect their service time in the past. And on teams that actually had a chance of contending.

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      • davidcoonce74

        8 years ago

        I’m not too high on Renfroe. His walk rate was lower than any other corner outfielder in baseball last year. Oh, to clarify, that’s Renfroe’s walk rate in AAA.

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        • SixFlagsMagicPadres

          8 years ago

          While I agree that Renfroe’s walk rate is pretty concerning, he’s shown the ability to make adjustments at every level so far. Even if he turns into a Chris Davis-type player, he still has the potential to be a good contributor for future Padres teams. I agree that he and Margot should start the season down in AAA though, for service time reasons.

          Reply
        • Herc33

          8 years ago

          While it makes sense in terms of their service clocks, I don’t see how they can logistically make both start in AAA with the current state of their roster. They literally have no one else to put out there. Margot, Renfroe, Jank, Dickerson and Franchy Cordero are the only OFs on the 40 man. It would be ridiculous to DFA someone in order to make room so Nick Buss or Colin Cowgill can be the opening day starter. Renfore is 25, might as well just let him get to work in the bigs at this point.

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        • thebighurt619

          8 years ago

          Jankowski dickerson bethancourt. There you go your starting OF for the 1st month.

          Reply
        • davidcoonce74

          8 years ago

          Exactly. Renfroe isn’t going to gain anything by playing in the high altitude of El Paso anymore, and he needs some serious work at the ML level lest he just turn into the next Jeff Francouer. Which, sadly, seems like his upside at this point.

          Reply
    • disgruntledreader 2

      8 years ago

      Ayer your uninformed and petulant rant last week, are you really claiming now that Green’s words might not be accurate? Or is it that you know more than Green and you’re just taking time out from your busy day employed in the game to share your wisdom with us?

      Reply
      • lesterdnightfly

        8 years ago

        Ouchie. All the sting of a lobbed cotton ball.

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  11. chesteraarthur

    8 years ago

    What is ryu’s velo at? Wasn’t he stuck in like the mid 80s?

    Reply
  12. trolleydodger

    8 years ago

    Well, at least Brett Anderson is gone!
    That guy injured his hand fielding a bunt–after 4 months on the DL he
    went right back- –there ought a’
    be contract clauses for such frailty.
    [BTW–Can GMs be put on the DL for spasms
    of judgement?]

    Reply
    • Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA

      8 years ago

      That wasn’t really a spasm of judgement as maybe Kaz and McCarthy might have been hindsight 20/20. I’m still shocked he took the QO. I truly like many people thought he’d look to get multiple years especially after throwing well and showing health.

      Reply
  13. mistermanly

    8 years ago

    According to David Vassegh, Ryu threw an impressive 2 innings today and Puig, who faced him, looked foolish in his ab against him.

    Reply
    • amendoza1539

      8 years ago

      It doesn’t take much to make Puig look foolish though

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  14. SixFlagsMagicPadres

    8 years ago

    With all the creative antics the Padres are concocting for the upcoming season, they should put a creative spin on their “rebuilding year” label while they’re at it. They could call it The Quest for the First Pick.

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    • padreforlife

      8 years ago

      That’s Padre fan claim to fame now tanking theme will be heard next 7 months. The uninformed Padre fan and they’re are many can’t let that go. Grandal was picked 14th round and others can be had but Padre fan puts on Pom Poms and cheers them to 1st pick

      Reply
  15. Circlechange4321

    8 years ago

    The shoulder surgeries just don’t seem to hold up, they said the same thing last season. “He’s almost ready, looking like a return in May” or something like that .

    Reply
    • Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA

      8 years ago

      Huh? This doesn’t make sense at all. Shoulder surgery is a 18-24 month process. It not as, somewhat,simple as just replacing a ligament. So his injuries last year were caused from essentially being sensitive to pain/ adjustments to his mechanics that led to elbow injury. This is different, everything was cleaned out and he’s cleared of the rehab period, but we may not recognize this until next year. Shoulder injuries are tricky, but if he’s getting full extension and repeatable arm action it’s more than encouraging.

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      • davidcoonce74

        8 years ago

        Yeah, but I’m trying to think of players who have come back strong as starting pitchers after shoulder surgeries. The only name that pops into my mind is Anibal Sanchez, and even he dropped off after a couple years. The names that are much more prominent to me are Mark Prior, Brandon Webb, Andy Ashby, Mark Mulder, Jesse Crain, Matt Clement, Kris Benson. None of them ever returned after shoulder surgery.

        Bartolo Colon elected not to have surgery but missed five seasons in the middle of his career to his shoulder woes. Pedro Martinez came back from shoulder surgery but he was a shell of his former self.. Shoulders are tricky. They end careers.

        Reply
  16. ronnsnow

    8 years ago

    Bethancourt does not get rave reviews at catcher, outfield, or as a reliever

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    • SamFuldsFive

      8 years ago

      Neither do your played out memes.

      Reply
  17. bravesfan1998

    8 years ago

    Desmond ain’t even that good ha

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  18. padreforlife

    8 years ago

    Padres becoming circus act

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