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East Notes: Kolek, Owens, Bautista, Gurriel

By Jeff Todd | March 6, 2017 at 11:01pm CDT

Righty Tyler Kolek, who the Marlins selected second overall in the 2014 draft, remains an important part of the club’s long-term plans — even though Tommy John surgery and performance questions cloud his outlook. As Tim Healey of the Sun Sentinel reports, Kolek is embarking upon the all-important ramp up back toward competitive pitching. He’s frustrated by the inevitably slow progress, but seems to be putting in all the work that has been demanded of him. Miami farm director Marco DelPiano says he still believes that Kolek has the talent to excel in the majors, though clearly there’s a long way to go to realizing that potential.

Here’s more from the game’s eastern divisions:

  • The Red Sox continue to see less-than-ideal results from lefty Henry Owens, as Tim Britton of the Providence Journal writes. Once a highly regarded prospect, and still an important part of the organization’s rotation depth, Owens most recently coughed up four free passes in an inning of work. Though the 24-year-old got a head start on throwing over the offseason, in hopes of a smooth launch with his mechanics, he acknowledges that “it hasn’t carried over yet.” Manager John Farrell says it’s a continuation of a long-known issue. “It’s something we talked about before camp,” he said. “The improved command is a primary objective. Today it wasn’t there.”
  • Jose Bautista spurned a much bigger contract offer to return to the Blue Jays, according to Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports. The veteran outfielder could have scored a three-year deal with “well over $50MM in guaranteed money,” per the report, but chose to head back to Toronto for one year at a $18.5MM guarantee (combined with a mutual and then a vesting option). While it’s not clear from where it issued, the offer is said to have materialized in mid-January, which is particularly notable when considering the oft-discussed narrative that sluggers like Bautista weren’t able to generate much interest this winter. Bautista, 36, says he considered all relevant factors. Ultimately, he says, “this is here I’m happy and comfortable.”
  • Meanwhile, John Lott of The Athletic takes an interesting look at one of Bautista’s newest teammates in the Blue Jays organization, youngster Lourdes Gurriel. Though he’s not expected to factor at the MLB level this year — it’s still not even clear where he’ll end up in the field, though he’ll start out as a shortstop — the 23-year-old had a significant role in the club’s offseason approach. Gurriel ultimately turned down an offer from the Cardinals that was similar to the $22MM he got from Toronto. Of course, he’ll have to pay the people who brought him out of Cuba out of that contract; Gurriel says the cost is “in the millions.” Lott explores the interesting path taken by Gurriel (and older brother Yulieski) in a story that’s well worth a full read.
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  1. Eric D.

    8 years ago

    The first two picks of the 2014 draft were Brady Aiken (didn’t sign) and Kolek (TJS) is that the worst first two picks in recent memory? Thank goodness Carlos Rodin and Kyle Schwarber and Aaron Nola were also taken in the top 10

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    • chesteraarthur

      8 years ago

      Depends how you look at it. For not agreeing to terms with Aiken, the Astros were able to take Bregman the next year.

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    • therealryan

      8 years ago

      I think it’s way to early too write both of these players off as busts. Considering that both picks were high school pitchers that ended up needing TJS, it’s not that surprising that they haven’t done anything 2 years later. I’d give them another 2 years before actually calling this the worst top picks in recent history. Even if they both end up as relievers they’ll most likely be better than the 2006 combo of Luke Hochevar and Greg Reynolds and possibly 2008 combo of Tim Beckham and Pedro Alvarez.

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    • bfolls

      8 years ago

      Not sure why guys still take high school pitchers with that high of picks. So much of a pitchers develop meant happens 18-20. And if their stuff already looks refined and developed, you have to wonder how much stress they were putting on their arm in middle school and high school to get to that point

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      • therealryan

        8 years ago

        You may have answered your own question with your second sentence. Teams would rather have the players at the important ages of 18-20 where they can have control over workload and pitch types. That could be preferable to getting an older player after a college coach has used and abused his arm for their own job security knowing that the player is gone after 3-4 years. I haven’t done the research to say which philosophy is right or wrong, but my guess is to just get as many great arms regardless of where they’re coming from.

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  2. jdgoat

    8 years ago

    Rip to the people who said nobody wanted to sign Bautista besides Toronto.

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    • lowtalker1

      8 years ago

      I really doubt that contract was on the table. If it was he would of taken it at this stage in his career.

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      • chesteraarthur

        8 years ago

        I’d love to know what team and what the structure of that contract was, if it actually existed.

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        • jimmyz

          8 years ago

          I think it was 3/50 from the Nats but they were going to pay him 250K a year for the next 200 years.

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        • chasparada

          8 years ago

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      • bigpapijuicer

        8 years ago

        Exactly. Nobody offered him 3/50. He wouldn’t be in Toronto if they did. Load of BS. He’s just saying that to save face.

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        • hawaiiphil

          8 years ago

          Correct sir

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        • davidcoonce74

          8 years ago

          If you had read the article you would know Passan found out about the offer from two different sources, not from Bautista. Bautista wouldn’t confirm or deny it.

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        • jdgoat

          8 years ago

          Actually Bautista is a great teammate and obviously doesn’t play just for the money. He’s plays because of his passion for the game, not like some guys who need to get every dollar possible.

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        • rocky7

          8 years ago

          Bautista may actually be a good teammate, but is totally a polarizing image to opposing coaches, players, and fans. Your analogy is kind of like calling Kim Jong-un a nice little fat guy who just wants attention!

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        • John Murray

          8 years ago

          Bautista was a great teammate 5 years ago, not so much now. And if he does indeed play for the passion of the game, I doubt he would have become a free agent in the first place, let alone let his signing ride into January. He’s full of it. And so is Passan, because the sources are likely agents hoping to re-energize a sad winter for free agency.

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        • chadbows

          8 years ago

          Who cares what was offered, why does it matter ?!? Why does it bother you guys so much that it’s possible that someone did offer him 3 at 50 ? As a Jays fan I’m ecstatic that money wasn’t out there for him. We got him back on the cheap. Here’s hoping the rest of the upcoming Jays free agents can became as hated as Bautista ! Leagues loss is the Jays gain.

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        • bfolls

          8 years ago

          4/50 on the other hand, he would probably turn down in favor of the blue jays deal. And I could see a team offering 4/50 to him. Probably an AL team so he could DH, especially in the last years

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        • cxcx

          8 years ago

          I think this is a silly comment. This guy was confident enough in himself to reject a 3/$60m extension offer at age 35 for his age 36-38 seasons with the expectation that he would have another great season and net a much higher contract (whether the $150m he was supposedly demanding or a more reasonable $80m-$100m doesn’t really matter.)

          Yet people think he would so obviously take a $50m guarantee at age 36 for age 36-38 seasons rather than bank $18m for age 36 while expecting to have an All-Star season like he has had 6 of the past 7 years so that he could enter free agency unencumbered by a qualifying offer and go for a guarantee above $32m next year?

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      • George

        8 years ago

        I disagree. Jose owns a business in Toronto, and at this stage of his career, Toronto was likely his best chance of winning a ring. He also has a chance to leave a legacy here as one of the best ever Blue Jays, and have his name in the rafters, whereas continued performance wasn’t guaranteed if he signed somewhere else.
        Jose is an intelligent guy, and he evaluated all the factors, besides the bottom line.

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        • jimbenwal

          8 years ago

          Thank you. 1st: I like nothing about Jose, but that doesn’t mean he didn’t do what was best for him. 2nd: Why does nearly everyone think it has to be about dollars only? When you have already made more than you could ever spend, why would money come before being happy and comfortable?

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        • patborders92

          8 years ago

          Lol he owns a Booster Juice that he might be able to sell for like $50 grand

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        • 66TheNumberOfTheBest

          8 years ago

          Because Jose “No Hometown Discount Give Me $150 Million Dollars” Bautista said himself that it was about the money.

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        • rocky7

          8 years ago

          jimbenwal…not always about the money?
          As George Young the Giants all time best GM once said….”its always about the money” when dealing with a player and his agent!
          When was the last time you read about an athlete not taking the best offer on the table blessed by his agents and their countless staff of accountants.
          Plus the MLB players union wouldn’t have it if it was major money and a major star…see AROD and the fact that he never became a Red Sox player.

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        • jdgoat

          8 years ago

          He never said anything about 150 million

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        • bfolls

          8 years ago

          It doesn’t have to be about dollars only. But it’s mostly about dollars. I think the reason he took the blue Jays deal was because of money. He likely sees this deal as a 1 year/19 million dollar deal during which time he re-establishes his value

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        • patborders92

          8 years ago

          do you think he didn’t ask for that? The ppl that did talk made it clear what he was asking. If he asked for something reasonable last year they would of worked out a deal.

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        • lesterdnightfly

          8 years ago

          Rocky7: Gil Meche begs to differ….

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      • reflect

        8 years ago

        It might have been Washington, and a super-deferred contract.

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    • dimitriinla

      8 years ago

      The guy was simply–and understandably–unwanted by nearly everyone. It was all the sweeter to see considering his arrogance on the matter one year ago.

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      • thegreatcerealfamine

        8 years ago

        That is spot on dude!!

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    • vinscully16

      8 years ago

      No way Bautista turned down three-years at $50 million – no way. Clearly this is a public relations move to appear loyal to Toronto after ol’ Jose crawled back under the roof at Rogers Center upon being ignored by MLB’s other 29 teams. Heck, even the Jays were reluctant to resign Jose the Great. Absolutely no way Bautista turned down $38 million because he’s “comfortable” in Toronto – entirely laughable. Jeff Passan’s source for the article is likely Jose Bautista. It’s a shame so many Jays fans wear rose coloured glasses when it comes to Bautista.

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      • bfolls

        8 years ago

        If this is true, it was probably a deal like 15 million for 3 years and a 10 million team option year with a 5 million buyout. It’s not as crazy as the bluejays signing him to what is essentially a one year-19 mil salary and giving up the comp pick they would have gotten in the late 20’s to do so

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        • chadbows

          8 years ago

          Yup, because those draft picks are sure fire hits !

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  3. stormie

    8 years ago

    Is it really that hard for a guy to defect that they need to pay someone millions of dollars to make it happen? These guys usually play in a lot of overseas events, wouldn’t local governments/police help them if they said “hey, these people are basically holding me captive and I want to be freed”?

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    • bravesfan1993

      8 years ago

      Lol do you not know about communism ?

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      • jimbenwal

        8 years ago

        More than communism, the people that are receiving this money are basically as bad as drug lords. When they want their money they will get it. Otherwise your family would slowly disappear, and you would never be safe. Fleeing on your own wouldn’t prevent anything.

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        • bfolls

          8 years ago

          Not just as bad as drug lords, often they are drug lords. people aren’t the only thing on those boats

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      • stormie

        8 years ago

        I’m lost on what the point of your comment was. Yes, I know what communism is, I’m well aware they’re not “allowed” to leave Cuba, hence my line of questioning related to “defecting”; I mean did you even read what I asked or did your snark detector kick in too soon before you realized how foolish you were going to sound? Go try and get an ego boost somewhere else, because you failed miserably here.

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    • casualatlfan

      8 years ago

      Because there are often laws against doing that (they’re still citizens of a different country), because the Cuban national team almost certainly has people accompanying them specifically to prevent that from happening, because the process itself of helping someone defect is very complicated…the list goes on and on. It’s MUCH harder than you think.

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      • stormie

        8 years ago

        I know the process itself wouldn’t be easy no matter what, but I’m mainly wondering why the police couldn’t be contacted to get them away from those team/government officials when they were in another country. If you get kidnapped while a tourist in another country, it’s not like you have no rights and couldn’t get help just because you’re not a citizen. So unless the police would recognize Cuba’s right to detain those players even when on their soil with different laws (and I can’t imagine that’s the case), they should be able to get help and there would be nothing those people watching over the players could do about it. After that, they would be free to figure out the process of how to get citizenship somewhere.

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        • Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA

          8 years ago

          It’s sad to say, but legally you are property of Cuba. In a majority of places individuals defect the police or law enforcement have no legal grounds to assist you. There are middle men needed aka drug smugglers that grease the wheels of governments that allow you stay and establish residency. If you’ve ever seen the El Duque/Livan 30 for 30 it lays it out perfectly. Unless you defect in a country with political asylum like the US you are essentially screwed. You may have defected to another country, but extradition laws do play a hand. In fact for the most part you are now a criminal in Cuba. So there’s was virtually no chance of defecting unless you get into bed with shady characters. The issue becomes now that players can play in different countries, and return to Cuba, while paying a tax to the Cuban government on their salaries, but US/Cuba relations still prevent such an act from occurring.

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  4. JFactor

    8 years ago

    No link on the Lott story?

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    • uofix3

      8 years ago

      theathletic.com/42192/2017/03/06/into-the-woods-ho…

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  5. 66TheNumberOfTheBest

    8 years ago

    Agents are the number one source of inside info for reporters. In exchange, the reporters will often run stories that aid an agent’s agenda.

    You see, Jose and his agent didn’t overshoot and botch the market….Mr. No Hometown Discount just LOVES Toronto so very much….

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  6. johnnyg83

    8 years ago

    Bautista rejected that contracted after consulting with his numerous girlfriends in the Niagara Falls area.

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    • madmanTX

      8 years ago

      He’s into blind chicks,right?

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  7. shane

    8 years ago

    I find it funny how the “I want $150 million…” was never confirmed but people still believe it to be true. And the “he had other offers…” also is subject to questioning, but the same people flat out deny that ever happening.

    Don’t get me wrong I understand the Bautista hate, but it seems to me a lot of you have already made up your minds and no new information (no matter the source) will change it.

    I personally couldn’t care less. My bet is he has big year and it’s a different story next offseason. But it’s a long season…

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  8. Cam

    8 years ago

    3/50 including a couple of team options, maybe.

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  9. yotes

    8 years ago

    The 3/50 wouldn’t be far off. The jays basically gave him 3/55 but two years are player and club options. If a deal for 3/50 was structured like 25 mil for year one and 15 club option year two and 10 club option year three than the jays offer with more overall money and player options to get out after year one is a much better offer

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  10. B-Strong

    8 years ago

    Henry Owens continues to struggle. In other news, water is wet.

    I think he’s a perfect make or break candidate because even though he hasn’t cracked into the league for regular service, he’s in danger of that never happening if he can’t get out of his own head and get his mechanics figured out.

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