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bleacherbum
Why don’t they just keep Renfroe down to gain and extra year on him as well? With the experiment of Spangenberg in left the Pads could hypothetically start the year off with Blash in right, Jankowski in Center and Spangenberg in left. Bethancourt could play a little more outfield to start the year and it might open the door for Cordoba to make the team to be a super utility guy.
disgruntledreader 2
It’s much more important to protect the age 28 season of a multi-dimensional player than the age 31 season of a guy who’s likely to be pretty one-dimensional by that point.
BaseballisLife
Renfroe will be 31 in 2022, the last year of Padres team control. Keeping him in the minors for a month to retain team control for his age 32 season doesn’t make a whole lot of sense. You want to keep younger players, 22 and younger, in the minors that extra time because then you are getting another season of team control while they are still in their prime years which for position players is 25-29 years old. No sense in playing service time games to have one more season of a player that will be 2-3 years past their prime.
davidcoonce74
Only way bethancourt is playing The OF this year is if the Padres carry three catchers, and I don’t see them having the roster space for that since they’re probably carrying 8 relievers. No team wants both its catchers in the lineup at the same time.
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
Don’t forget Renfroe! They also need to send him down to protect his service time.
davidcoonce74
Man, Rollins fell off fast, it seems.
BaseballisLife
Pretty much all players do from their age 30 season on. There have been some exceptions, but they are few and far between.
Jimmy peaked in his age 28 season and has been in a steady decline since then.
darkstar61
Just for facts sake
2000-2006 (pre 28) – 95 OPS+
2008-2014 (post 28) – 95 OPS+
He fell off a cliff at 36 (as most players historically have done) but he consistently sat in that ~90 OPS+ range with occasional bumps for 15 years (including posting as many 100 OPS+ seasons in his 30s as he had pre-28)
Cam
Interesting to hear how Rollins responds to pressure. Some players thrive, others accept it..but to pretty much say acknowledging pressure will be detrimental? Interesting. Doesn’t inspire much confidence.
BlueSkyLA
I get what he means. The ballplayers call it pressing, and pressing often leads to worse results not better.
darkstar61
He’s now pushing 40 and has put up a HOF discussion level career already with some impressive accomplishments (including the amazing 20/20/20/20/GG year)
I think it is safe to say his approach has worked out fine for him
lowtalker1
Hof?
darkstar61
Discussion (meaning not dismissed outright without some consideration)
Don’t expect him to make it because the overall numbers aren’t there, but we are talking about SS here and there is an interesting case that can be presented
espn.com/blog/jayson-stark/post/_/id/819/jimmy-rol…
davidcoonce74
He’s borderline HOF honestly. There are a bunch of HOF shortstops worse than Rollins. But I’m a small hall guy and hope he doesn’t make it.
jd396
If Rollins is a HOFer we’re going to have a slippery slope problem and pretty soon Orlando Cabrera is going to get in and Julio Lugo will juuuust miss it.
darkstar61
As the article I linked outlines:
2000+ Hits (currently 2455)
200+ HR (231)
800+ XBH (857; the 231 HR, 511 2B and 115 3B)
400+ SB (470)
4 GG
MVP Award (one of only four 20/20/20/20 seasons ever -only 7 guys have ever even done 20 2B/20 3B/20 HR- and he added a GG on to boot)
He is the only shortstop in history to do all that
So while I don’t think he will probably get in, there is a case because Rollins isn’t just some guy who played well for a long time. He put up a truly special career for a SS
davidcoonce74
The slippery slope happened a long time ago. Look up rabbit maranville. Jim bottomley. Jim Rice. Chuck Klein. Frank Chance. Rollins would be far from the worst player in the Hall, or even the worst SS in the Hall.
padreforlife
How about Rizzuto ?
SixFlagsMagicPadres
At this point, it wouldn’t be very smart to not keep Margot down. He needs to recover from his injury and then get some at-bats in extended spring training to shake the rust off before he joins the team.