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Trade Chatter: Darvish, Alonso, Red Sox, Ramos, Stanton, Cahill, Nunez

By Jeff Todd | July 21, 2017 at 8:43pm CDT

Yu Darvish is pitching tonight for the Rangers, so clearly there’s nothing imminent. Indeed, Texas seems likely to take its decision on the ace to the latest possible moment, even as it begins to solicit interest. As that process begins to take place, it’s important to note that Darvish possesses partial no-trade rights. While it’s not at all clear whether he’d get in the way of a deal, particularly given that he’ll be a free agent in a few months regardless, that adds another potential hurdle. Per Jim Bowden of Sirius XM, via Twitter, Darvish currently can block trades to the Cubs, Indians, Pirates, Red Sox, and Rockies (along with five other teams that are in no position to consider a rental starter).

Here’s the latest trade deadline chatter:

  • While the Athletics continue to weigh their options with first baseman Yonder Alonso, the club has not actually engaged in any extension talks with his reps, per ESPN.com’s Buster Olney (Twitter link). While a new deal seems unlikely to come to fruition (yet more than it did already), the A’s are struggling to drum up interest in the breakout performer. Indeed, Mark Feinsand of MLB.com suggests on Twitter that the Yankees are the only team firmly pursuing Alonso at this time. Trouble is, it seems, Oakland isn’t enamored of the Yanks’ offers to date.
  • Meanwhile, the division-rival Red Sox could conceivably look into some outside-the-box possibilities to improve their offense, Alex Speier of the Boston Globe writes. He bases that assessment on the difficulty of finding a significant offensive threat capable of playing third as well as the ongoing struggles of Mitch Moreland since he suffered a toe injury. Boston might consider a first baseman, Speier says, or perhaps even an outfielder that could lineup at DH — if Hanley Ramirez is capable of spending more time at first. While it doesn’t seem there’s any indication of internal interest at this point, Speier cites Alonso, Lucas Duda, and Jay Bruce as rental players that could hold some appeal.
  • Marlins closer A.J. Ramos is drawing interest from as many as eight to ten teams, MLB.com’s Joe Frisaro tweets. With momentum perhaps building toward a deal, Ramos tells MLB.com’s Jeremy Vernon that he hears the rumors, but is trying to stay focused on his current job. “It’s good, but also it’s a little bit bittersweet,” he said of the fact other teams are looking to deal for him.
  • A handful of clubs have reached out to the Marlins about high-priced slugger Giancarlo Stanton, Jon Heyman of Fan Rag reports, but the expectation remains that he will not be seriously marketed this summer. Still, the club is keeping Stanton “apprised of every contact” it receives, which evidently was a commitment made to the star. With full no-trade protection, he can control his destiny.
  • Interest in Padres righty Trevor Cahill is increasing as the deadline draws near, a team source tells MLB.com’s AJ Cassavell (via Twitter). While the possible introduction of Darvish to the market would knock Cahill down a peg among rental arms, it likely wouldn’t reduce the demand. After all, he’s still exceptionally cheap and has been one of the game’s most productive starters when healthy in 2017. For teams that want to take a shot at a continuation of that surprising success, Cahill should hold quite a lot of appeal.
  • Interestingly, in his recent run-down of the market for Athletics righty Sonny Gray, Ken Rosenthal of MLB Network noted that even the Padres have asked about the hotly pursued starter. That may be chalked up mostly to due diligence; though the Pads no doubt would love to install such an arm into their rotation for the next two years, it’s hard to see sufficient motivation to beat the offers of other organizations that will highly value the ability to utilize Gray for the next several months.
  • Among Giants players, infielder Eduardo Nunez is drawing the most interest, Olney tweets. That’s hardly surprising, as he’s a pending free agent who can play all over the infield. It still seems a bit difficult to imagine that the Giants won’t find a worthwhile arrangement involving Nunez, who could fit with quite a few different contenders.
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  1. jonscriff

    8 years ago

    yankees give up refsynder and Cooper for Yonder

    Reply
    • Brixton

      8 years ago

      So someone the A’s could get for free, and someone the Yanks just got for nothing

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    • dlevin11

      8 years ago

      No Cooper trade

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    • dodgerfan711

      8 years ago

      The delousional refsnyder packages dont stop even after he was DFA

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      • Eat'EmUpTigers

        8 years ago

        Refsnyder and Byrd for Sonny Gray. Yankees need to do it.

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      • Connorsoxfan

        8 years ago

        Honestly I’ve even made a couple Refsnyder proposals myself the last couple months just to amuse the other commenters. Pretty annoying when people are serious tho lol

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        • bsteady7

          8 years ago

          Just to amuse? I call BS!

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      • qbass187

        8 years ago

        I know! Seriously people!!! Stop believing the NYY prospect hype FFS!

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        • a1544

          8 years ago

          Refsnyder isn’t a prospect. Idk why you would think that anymore

          Reply
        • Woodlawn

          8 years ago

          I know. Judge, Sanchez, Frazier & Severino sure make the hype look fake

          Reply
        • thegreatcerealfamine

          8 years ago

          All rise because that’s a Judgeon post.

          Reply
        • thegreatcerealfamine

          8 years ago

          Stop having someone read them to you.

          Reply
    • Megadro2000

      8 years ago

      How about refsnyder for sunny gray!

      Reply
    • T-Dawg

      8 years ago

      Those Yankee players suck!!

      Reply
    • BB_1224

      8 years ago

      I agree

      Reply
  2. Remms12

    8 years ago

    what prospects would the A’ s need for Alonso.

    Reply
    • nste23

      8 years ago

      Probably not a high profile prospect due to the fact he is a rental maybe a 8-15 level prospect with upside

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      • Michael Chaney

        8 years ago

        I’d guess a little bit more because he’s been just that good this year, but lack of demand is gonna lower the cost so you might be right

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        • koz16

          8 years ago

          He was good for 3 weeks. In the past 30 days he’s hitting .197 with 4 HR and 8 RBI’s. Those are Chris Carter numbers and the Yankees had enough of that. Alsonso is back to his old self with slightly more power. He’s not worth a name brand prospect.

          Reply
    • southi

      8 years ago

      If it is the Yankees they’re probably offering only someone in the 20-30 range because seriously they’d probably only bidding against themselves. Not much demand for firstbasemen right now, while Alonso, Adams, Napoli, Duda, Bour, Belt, Abreu, and Joseph have all at least once been mentioned as possible trade bait. The A’s aren’t the only pond and Alonso isn’t the only fish. No real reason for any team to pay much on a rental for sure.

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  3. Mr. E Team

    8 years ago

    I’m glad Nunez is healthy enough to be traded. He was fun to watch in his time with the Giants.

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  4. redsox for_life

    8 years ago

    Will never now how much the white sox ask DD for Frazier….But see him and 2 good relivers to the fc yankees … hurt

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    • hodor 3

      8 years ago

      DAD can always trade Devers for Pablo when he signs with a team. Win-win!

      Reply
    • thekid9

      8 years ago

      I love all these Johnny Superscouts

      Reply
    • lamars

      8 years ago

      I wasn’t sold on Fraizer, but I was bummed we missed out on Robinson and Kanhle.

      Reply
  5. Hen1CHC

    8 years ago

    Alonso to the Mariners makes sense, Dipoto seems all in (wild card is no problem) and although Valencia has been solid Alonso can platoon with him and DH for Cruz at times.

    Reply
    • thegreatcerealfamine

      8 years ago

      Mariners won’t finish .500!

      Reply
      • whereslou

        8 years ago

        Your cereal is soggy you left it in your beer too long.

        Reply
  6. Bullet

    8 years ago

    We don’t need Alonso enough to give up anything good, End of.

    Reply
  7. Pb

    8 years ago

    Anyone have any thoughts as to the caliber prospect Nunez can actually fetch? Strickland?

    Reply
    • redsox for_life

      8 years ago

      Devers and Groome will not be move!!

      Reply
      • Connorsoxfan

        8 years ago

        Yeah you’re pretty much looking at Sox prospects not named Devers or Groome. I haven’t put much research into the rest of their system. All the guys I knew are gone lol. It’s not like it’s completely barren there’s still a couple good players. Packaging Nunez with Strickland probably gets you a org. Top 10 and an org top 15 plus a lottery ticket in an average system.

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        • Michael Chaney

          8 years ago

          Even with Strickland’s iffy peripherals, I actually think he could fetch a little more than that because someone will probably see a potential shutdown reliever with several years of control left

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        • The show

          8 years ago

          Even Chavis won’t be included…there’s just no way

          Reply
      • hiflew

        8 years ago

        All your base are belong to us!

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        • frankiegxiii

          8 years ago

          Nice one hiflew haha

          Reply
      • thegreatcerealfamine

        8 years ago

        Look another homer making this same proclamation about prospects,only to be jilted..lol

        Reply
    • Bruin1012

      8 years ago

      Not sure what Nunez would but my guess is maybe 15 to 20 prospect type guy.

      Reply
  8. Mikeyz48

    8 years ago

    How about the Indians strike a deal for Gray.

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    • Mikeyz48

      8 years ago

      Build a package starting with Triston McKenzie

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      • sufferforsnakes

        8 years ago

        No!!!!!!!!!!!!

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      • Michael Chaney

        8 years ago

        Mejia and McKenzie are off limits to me, but if the A’s want Bobby Bradley and a few other prospects besides those two then I’d be okay with it

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        • sufferforsnakes

          8 years ago

          Depends on who the other prospects are. But I agree on Mejia and McKenzie…..and Bradley.
          But I’m sure the Tribe wants to see how Salazar pitches tomorrow.

          Reply
        • therealryan

          8 years ago

          Cleveland really doesn’t have the prospect depth to reasonably expect them to be able to acquire Gray without including one of Mejia or McKenzie. They do have some interesting 50 grade prospects and it could be fathomable that Oakland might like one or two of them more than the consensus opinion. However, without the top 2 guys, Cleveland would probably have to say take your pick of any 3 other guys in our system as the core of a package and Oakland could very easily still say no to that.

          Reply
        • Polish Hammer

          8 years ago

          No Mejia or McKenzie, look around the system for other solid trading pieces to build a deal around.

          Reply
    • Bruin1012

      8 years ago

      You aren’t getting Gray without a package built around one of Mckenzie or Mejia you saw what the Cubs gave up for Q it will be a similar but slightly less package then the one that got.

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      • sufferforsnakes

        8 years ago

        Then we won’t be getting him.

        Reply
      • stymeedone

        8 years ago

        Yeah, Q went cheap. 2 A ball prospects and 2 A ball fillers.

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        • Bruin1012

          8 years ago

          Yup super cheap a top 10 prospect and an 80 to 100 prospect with high upside . Yup Q was super cheap they were looking for those type of prospects I think the White Sox fans are very happy with what they got for Q.

          Reply
  9. SanDiegoTom

    8 years ago

    I’d enjoy watching gray in petco, just don’t know it’s really good move for the rebuild at this point… padres a are at least 2-3 years away from sniffing .500 IMO

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    • padresfan

      8 years ago

      I get the idea
      They need a leader
      Just like they pegged Myers to lead

      Reply
    • hiflew

      8 years ago

      People forget that teams are allowed to sign guys to extensions. Pitchers especially like to sign extensions due to the ever present possibility of catastrophic injury. Even Strasburg signed an extension when he clearly would have been the #1 arm on the FA market and would have probably made a little more money.

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      • SanDiegoTom

        8 years ago

        Padres don’t need to spend more money on injured/dfa/traded players. Too much risk, but I see your point.

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      • chesteraarthur

        8 years ago

        People do not forget it, they just realize how rare it is for teams to acquire someone in a trade and sign them to an extension.

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        • outinleftfield

          8 years ago

          About 30%. Not too rare. Kind of medium well.

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    • SixFlagsMagicPadres

      8 years ago

      It think it would be really cool to see Gray on the Padres, but not right now. Maybe years from now when the rebuild has progressed and Gray reaches fee agency (if he doesn’t sign an extension), they can maybe sign him to anchor the rotation.

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      • bleacherbum

        8 years ago

        Likewise, but it would be very expensive to acquire him. It would most likely cost one of Espinosa or Quantrill plus Naylor and another piece or two. Doubt the Padres want to part with that much.

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  10. ffjsisk

    8 years ago

    Yonder has played well enough for a QO. I don’t think they’re taking anything less than a top 100 prospect for him.

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    • Eat'EmUpTigers

      8 years ago

      They say the QO this off season should be in the 18 mill range I think. If that’s the case I’d be accepting that QO a la Hellickson Rasmus etc if I were Yonder.

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      • padresfan

        8 years ago

        Yup bc he won’t make anything close to that

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        • tharrie0820

          8 years ago

          A much better player with a much better track record (encarnacion)didn’t even make that, I think

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        • tylerall5

          8 years ago

          He got the QO if that’s what you mean.

          Reply
    • arc89

      8 years ago

      There is such a small market for Alonso I can
      ‘t see them asking for a top 100 player. Yanks do have some low minors guys that the A’s should ask for. I don’t see him bringing in more than some AA prospect in a team’s 15-25 range.

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      • hiflew

        8 years ago

        I didn’t think so before, but after seeing the return for JD Martinez I tend to agree with your opinion.

        Reply
    • hodor 3

      8 years ago

      That seriously is not happening.

      Reply
    • therealryan

      8 years ago

      A top 100 prospect would be a 55 FV player. A superior player, JD Martinez, was just traded for a 50 grade as the headliner. Sorry Oakland fans, but I can’t imagine any possible scenario wear a worse hitting Alonso is going to get a larger return than JD did. Especially considering that there is almost no market for 1B. At this point, I wouldn’t be surprised if Oakland struggles to get even a 50 FV in return.

      Reply
  11. willi

    8 years ago

    I didn’t think this before , But I think Stanton will go to Phillies after Trade Deadline , with Phillies accepting 80 % of the Contact. That if The Hammer can be convinced he wants to Hit 50/690 Home Runs a Year in the Bank , instead of 40 in the Wonder Land Park that Marlins play in

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    • cxcx

      8 years ago

      40 eh, man is in his eighth season and hasn’t touched (barely sniffed) 40 yet.

      50/60 in Philly would actually be 35/40 right.

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      • tharrie0820

        8 years ago

        As much as he gets hurt, I don’t see why anyone would take much of that contract

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        • hodor 3

          8 years ago

          He really shouldn’t be considered injury prone.

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        • thegreatcerealfamine

          8 years ago

          Why is that?

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        • hodor 3

          8 years ago

          Freak injuries. Now if it was something like hamstrings…

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        • Polish Hammer

          8 years ago

          Exactly.

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      • st1300b 2

        8 years ago

        Stanton should go to great American ballpark then it’s rediculous.
        Would look good as a red.

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  12. Michael Chaney

    8 years ago

    Remember when actual writers thought the Red Sox came out ahead for signing Mitch Moreland instead of going after Encarnacion? Hahahaha

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    • cxcx

      8 years ago

      Frontrun always.

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    • ellisburks

      8 years ago

      Mitch Moreland for one year at minimal cost so nobody would block Travis. Still a good move.

      Reply
    • lucienbel

      8 years ago

      I can’t say I ever thought he was any kind of win for the Red Sox, but prior to the injury he was super productive for them (at least money:production ratio).

      I would agree that the injury/fall off isn’t entirely unexpected. I think you’re making the deal seem a lot worse than it is though. For the money they did well.

      Reply
    • lamars

      8 years ago

      Obvisouly, you’re clueless if you don’t see how they didn’t. 1st they signed Moreland on the cheap while keeping theirselves under the Luxury tax. And Moreland before suffering is toe injury was out performing Encarnacion.

      Reply
  13. Eat'EmUpTigers

    8 years ago

    You’re right PadresFan. No team will give him more than a 2 year deal and I can’t see him making more than 18 mill total in that contract.

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    • pdubs2907

      8 years ago

      Ya sometimes people forget that QO’s can actually be accepted, and in the case of Alonso, he likely would sign it.

      Reply
  14. frankiegxiii

    8 years ago

    They really couldn’t list the other five teams on Darvish’s no trade clause???

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    • madmanTX

      8 years ago

      Your team is one of the five.

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    • lucienbel

      8 years ago

      I think it’s worth knowing as well. Even if it doesn’t effect the deadline, it suggests the places he’s not interest in being in the future as well.

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      • Jeff Todd

        8 years ago

        Click the link?

        Reply
  15. woolcorp

    8 years ago

    I say package Yu with Choo just to shed the contract

    Reply
    • tsc32

      8 years ago

      That would kill what we could get for Darvish. Just light a bunch of money on fire for 4 years to pay off most of Choo’a contract. Do that and then Choo actually has some trade appeal. We’d be going young and rebuilding anyways so taking on most of the contract isn’t a huge deal IMO

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    • the.sophisticant

      8 years ago

      chooyu chooyu chooyu chugga chugga chooooooyuuuuu

      Reply
  16. stretch123

    8 years ago

    Marlins better not trade Ramos unless we get more than what we got for Phelps (two good prospects as opposed to 4 risky ones)…

    Reply
    • tsc32

      8 years ago

      Love seeing Texas Tech guys succeed. Ramos is a favorite out here. Want to see him get a ring soon so hoping y’all find a good deal and can move him

      Reply
  17. Phillies2017

    8 years ago

    If I was a GM- especially of a seller- certainly taking a shot in Refsnyder.
    Good versatility, Solid prospect pedigree and the ability to be controlled through next season if outrighted is worth fbe waiver claim fee. Especially because he’s optionable through 2017.

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  18. usafcop

    8 years ago

    Puig for Stanton straight up….Dodgers take on full contract….then reconstruct his contract….

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    • stymeedone

      8 years ago

      I’m sure Stanton and the Player’s Union will be amenable to that! Happens all the time.

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    • Polish Hammer

      8 years ago

      Puig isn’t worth Stanton, he’s very overrated IMO.

      Reply
  19. the.sophisticant

    8 years ago

    i heard trump was going to take over stanton’s contract and make him secretary of hot oil massages

    Reply
  20. slider32

    8 years ago

    I think the Yanks are more likely to trade for Darvish at this point, although the market for first basemen is weak. Darvish could be the pitcher that makes the Yanks a contender. I would think a pitcher like Sheffield or Adams would get the deal done.

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    • Bruin1012

      8 years ago

      As a Red Sox fan I would not like to see the Yankees get Darvish he would really help the Yankees staff and with there bullpen they could be scary. If the Yankees were willing to part with one of those two I’m guessing a deal would get done.

      Reply
  21. thebare

    8 years ago

    Look out Beane as much as you help other team Cashman cheat teams of there players

    Reply
  22. Logjammer D"Baggagecling

    8 years ago

    I’m surprised the cubs are on his no trade list. Of course for the right deal he can approve it. It makes signing him less and less possible this winter.

    Reply
  23. usafcop

    8 years ago

    I know that Puig is well below Stanton’s level but the Marlins need to dump payroll and the Dodgers would take on the entire contract and just reconstruct it a bit….maybe lower the yearly pay and add more years….spread it out a bit….Stanton is from the west coast so it would be a nice fit….Marlins get a cheap controllable RF and maybe a lower level prospect….

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    • real_ttebow_

      8 years ago

      i don’t think you re-negotiate the contract when you get traded…

      Reply
  24. oceansnake84

    8 years ago

    Depends what the Padres would have to give up for Gray, because I think alot of people think they’re farther out then they really are, especially as far as a wild car spot is concerned. Advanced metrics like Lement, Perdomo will get better and not to mention the trio young pitching of Lucchesi, Lauer, and Quanrill so adding a top 15 pitching who has a couple years of could give them a chance at the wild car. The fact of the matter is the Dodgers are going to be basically a top 3 team in baseball for like the next 5 years so even when the Padres have rebuilt they’re not going to win the NL West, therefore spending on a pitcher like this to boster their young roatation next year could pay wild card dividends.

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