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Shohei Ohtani Rumors: Thursday

By Steve Adams | November 30, 2017 at 2:45pm CDT

The question of whether Shohei Ohtani can successfully lead a big league rotation and serve as a legitimate member of its offense on a semi-regular basis is one of the most fascinating storylines in recent memory, and Tim Brown of Yahoo Sports takes an excellent look at the viability of that scenario. Brown spoke to GM, scouts, coaches and players throughout the league, and though the prevailing opinion was that while it would be difficult and unlikely, there’s also a sentiment that those in the industry are nonetheless rooting for Ohtani to succeed at both.

Rays righty Chris Archer tells Brown that a successful two-way player would “change our perspective” on the game. Archer and free-agent outfielder Jayson Werth both chatted with Brown about their daily schedules and recovery programs, which Brown uses as a means of illustrating the challenges of Ohtani successfully serving as a starter and a DH/outfielder. Brown also talks with former pitcher/outfielder Rick Ankiel about the summer he spent as a starter and a DH in A-ball. Ankiel suggests that the true question isn’t one of whether Ohtani can physically handle a two-way role but rather one of whether Ohtani can thrive in both areas. “Can he be great at both here?” Ankiel asks rhetorically. “That depends on how good he really is.”

Some other notes on the game’s most intriguing free-agent-to-be, who should be formally posted by Saturday…

  • The Athletics can only offer $300K to Ohtani after exceeding last year’s allotted international pool, but Susan Slusser of the San Francisco Chronicle reports a detailed account of their pitch to Ohtani. Oakland is will to not only let Ohtani hit but also play the outfield on occasion, she notes, and their sales pitch also centers around an emerging young core of comparably aged players to Ohtani — led by Matt Olson and Matt Chapman. The A’s hope to be in a new ballpark by 2023, if not sooner and are hoping to sell Ohtani on helping them usher in that new facility as one of the faces of the team. They also highlighted manager Bob Melvin’s relationship with Ichiro Suzuki and Hideki Matsui as well as Oakland’s relative proximity to Japan, among many other aspects.
  • Jeff Fletcher of the Orange County Register reports that the Angels have “earmarked” the $1.315MM they now have in their international pool after today’s trade with the Braves for a pursuit of Ohtani.

Earlier Updates

  • The Phillies haven’t been mentioned in connection with Ohtani, but MLB.com’s Todd Zolecki writes that they do plan to take their shot at landing him, even if they’re considered long shots. The Phils have $900K to offer Ohtani in terms of a signing bonus, and new skipper Gabe Kapler spent a season playing in Nippon Professional Baseball, giving him some familiarity with Japanese baseball and culture. Zolecki also notes that former Phillies skipper Charlie Manuel, a senior advisor in the front office, enjoyed an excellent six-year career in NPB and is likely a known name for Ohtani, even if Manuel wrapped up his playing career before Ohtani was born. Nonetheless, the Phils will also need to convince Ohtani that their rebuilding club is near contention, and Zolecki further notes that other markets like New York, Los Angeles and Seattle have considerably larger Japanese populations and communities.
  • Pennsylvania’s other MLB club may also be a long shot, but Pirates GM Neal Huntington still spoke optimistically in his team’s ability to make a competitive pitch for Ohtani in a recent appearance with Chris Mueller and Joe Starkey on 93.7 The Fan. “We are going to do everything in our power, and hopefully, have him honor us with the ability to get beyond the written presentation, get beyond the initial 30-club presentation and really dig into why it would be an honor for us to have him become a member of the Pittsburgh Pirates,” said Huntington. In terms of potential bonus offer, the Bucs are one of the better-positioned teams, with a bit more than $2.2MM to offer, but Ohtani is widely expected to make far more through endorsements than his initial signing bonus anyhow, so the bonus itself may not be an enormous separator.
  • David Kaplan of NBC Sports Chicago writes that the Cubs have sent scouts to Japan to watch Ohtani for weeks at a time in the past, and some rivals believe the Cubs to be a serious threat to land him. One exec remarks to Kaplan that president of baseball ops Theo Epstein and GM Jed Hoyer have success in setting up support systems for international stars thanks to their acquisition of Daisuke Matsuzaka with the Red Sox in the 2006-07 offseason. The Cubs are capped at a $300K signing bonus, though again, that doesn’t appear to be as significant a strike against them as it would be in the pursuit of a more traditional free agent.
  • Chelsea Janes of the Washington Post reports that the Nationals crafted a presentation in English, which international scouting assistant Taisuke Sato then translated to Japanese for Ohtani’s consumption. Janes notes that the Nationals, who are also capped at $300K, cannot compete financially in terms of signing bonus and don’t have previous experience in signing Japanese players under GM Mike Rizzo to demonstrate a proven plan for helping an NPB star transition to the Majors. That said, the team has very recently made a significant investment in its medical staff, boasts a new Spring Training facility and a fairly new ballpark in D.C., and can attempt to sell Ohtani on the allure of joining an immediate contender with an open rotation spot. Janes paints the Nats as long shots but notes that they, like all 30 other clubs, will at least perform their due diligence in attempting to entire Ohtani.
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  1. ronnsnow

    8 years ago

    Pirates have no intention on pursuing Ohtani. This is just fluff by management in order to sell tickets, making it look like they are trying to improve the team.

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    • Chris Sale Amateur Tailor

      8 years ago

      but he is cheep witch they do like

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    • wkkortas

      8 years ago

      Maybe he has a thing for fries and cole slaw on his sammitches.

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    • justinept

      8 years ago

      They have every intention of making an attempt. They have little chance of succeeding. There’s literally nothing in their history that suggests they wouldn’t spend $900k to sign a potential ace

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    • Geebs

      8 years ago

      That’s a dumbass statement, every team in the league is going to pursue him because he fits into every budget. You should really consider turning your brain on before posting nonsense.

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  2. Brixton

    8 years ago

    Wheres Caseys Partner to tell us this Ohtani article is fake news

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    • aceofrainbows

      8 years ago

      Ah you beat me to it!

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    • mlb1225

      8 years ago

      Banned. He posted it on his blog a few weeks ago. lol

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      • 24TheKid

        8 years ago

        What’s his blog called?

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      • riffraff

        8 years ago

        I was wondering why the Ohtani threads were suddenly more pleasant to read

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      • Dookie Howser, MD

        8 years ago

        His twitter is also suspended.

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        • Cat Mando

          8 years ago

          His twitter is also suspended.”
          And he is banned on almost every commenting platform.

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    • mlb1225

      8 years ago

      freeaec.blogspot.com/
      ^here’s his article on being banned.

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      • reflect

        8 years ago

        Goodness that was sad to read. I hope he gets the help and support he needs to make it through these tough times.

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      • Cat Mando

        8 years ago

        The scary part is his history, prison several times (even threatened to kill his P,O.) and the fact that he ended the blog with a picture of the busted Vegas hotel windows and the words “How much can one person take”. He doesn’t like me very much I guess because I mentioned who he was (i.e. free_aec after another noticed it too). My cousin who reads MLBTR but doesn’t post anymore emailed me and told me who he was and his history.

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        • 24TheKid

          8 years ago

          Yeah, the whole ending kind of concerns me.

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        • vlad4hof

          8 years ago

          Jeez yea he’s very troubles and the Vegas ending…authorities should be contacted.

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        • Cat Mando

          8 years ago

          “Jeez yea he’s very troubles and the Vegas ending…authorities should be contacted.”
          With his history they probably are still watching him.

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        • mlb1225

          8 years ago

          I didn’t know that about any of that about that Casey guy. I thought he was just an annoying troll.

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        • Cat Mando

          8 years ago

          @ mlb1225 I didn’t either until my cousin told me he was hacker and none too stable. Turns out it was easy to find online and then the initials make sense.

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        • mlb1225

          8 years ago

          What are the initials?

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        • Cat Mando

          8 years ago

          “What are the initials?”
          the “aec” in his blog. Saying what they mean violates TOS here, but a little search of his blog name get’s you there

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    • Dookie Howser, MD

      8 years ago

      I mean, its pretty common knowledge that Steve Adams is an alt-left globalist intent on using his control over the liberal-MLBTR to run the Phillies and Orioles into the ground

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  3. customcrown

    8 years ago

    My wind gets no likes
    But this wind gets clicks all day

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  4. chitown311

    8 years ago

    I think this guy is way overrated. He’ll be a serviceable 3/4 SP, but don’t expect more than 5-10 HRs and a .240 avg. Not saying that’s bad from a 2 way player, but he will not be the phenomenon that we’ve been hearing about

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    • alexgordonbeckham

      8 years ago

      He’s definitely worth a shot. I do agree after a year or two, that if he’s nothing special with the bat, he loses the at bats.

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    • iwonderifthisnameworks

      8 years ago

      You say this like it is a fact. He could be a lot worse or a lot better. I hope better because it would be awesome for baseball.

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    • adkuchan

      8 years ago

      Based on what? The dude throws over 100 mph consistently, and has 4 other plus pitches. That kind of velocity is going to play just fine over here. The bat? We’ll see.

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      • chitown311

        8 years ago

        Says Joel Zumaya

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    • Sky14

      8 years ago

      Based off what? Sure, any player is more likely to be marginal than a superstar but everything that’s been said about Ohtani indicates he has a better shot than most.

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    • Travis’ Wood

      8 years ago

      “I think this guy is way overrated.” *proceeds to give zero logical or statistical evidence to support such an outlandish opinion.

      Nothing new to see here. Just another troll with no intellectual insight whatsoever.

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  5. Greg Pinto

    8 years ago

    Still think the Phillies are a sneaky team in this race if you consider that they have one of the best farm systems in baseball and are going to be major players in the free agent market over the next few seasons.

    I don’t like their odds as much as the Dodgers or Yankees, but I think they make more sense than a club like, say, the Rangers.

    If it’s truly not about what clubs can offer now, I think that the Phillies are one of the more robust clubs in terms of future value. This market is huge when the club is competitive.

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    • timm-2

      8 years ago

      You lost me when you discounted “a club like say the Rangers” …. If you’re argument is the Phillies should make sense then so do teams like the Rangers.

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      • Cat Mando

        8 years ago

        “You lost me when you discounted “a club like say the Rangers””
        I didn’t understand that part either and I’m a Phillies fan

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      • Greg Pinto

        8 years ago

        I should have elaborated.

        What I meant to say was that the Yankees and Dodgers leap to the front because of their markets and brand recognition.

        In my opinion, I believe that there are some teams – specifically the Phillies – who have the potential for such things (farm system, future payroll commitments, market size) that could make Ohtani a strong pitch, but would require somewhat of a leap of faith.

        And if you line it up like that, it was just my opinion that the Phillies could be more appealing than some of the teams with larger current offerings. Was just using the Rangers as an example of that next tier.

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        • timm-2

          8 years ago

          good post. the reality is all of the teams are making their own initial pitch. I heard on mlb radio this morning that one of the gm’s pitches was that he could be the first japanese star in their franchise and in their city.

          You read in this article where the a’s are making a similar argument that you propose the phillies make plus throw in a new ballpark.

          Then you read in the same piece the angels using there newly acquired bonus pool money to for their pitch to him to (I assume) hopefully compete with the Dodgers.

          No one really knows what he’s going to do. The people speculating that the Yankees (and I’m a Yankee fan) are the favorites are either NY journalists or using what is a very easy and logic to make the Yankees appear to be a logical option.

          I hope he ends up a Yankee but I think anything is possible except for teams lost in the sauce right now like the Padres or the beginning of the rebuilding teams like the Marlins or teams going nowhere like the Orioles.

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        • Coast1

          8 years ago

          I’ve heard the Yankees are the favorites because they have a big Japanese population, they’ve had Japanese stars, they’ll get Ohtani huge endorsement deals, and they can spend $3.5 million.

          The problem with all that is there’s no indication any of that is important to Ohtani. The questionnaire specifically said money shouldn’t be part of the pitch. The questions are so general that there’s no indication what would be the best answer. I think Ohtani is going into this with an open mind and that any team that returns the questionnaire could be the favorite.

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    • eilexx

      8 years ago

      Doubt that the Phillies or any N.L. team has a realistic shot. If Ohtani truly wants to hit and pitch, he’s going to a team with a DH, otherwise his chances for at-bats will be scarce. Sure, he can play the outfield or first base, but what happens the first time he makes a diving or overly aggressive play in the field? Team ownership is going to freak that he’ll end up hurting his arm or shoulder, and his at-bats will get fewer and further between.

      In the AL the risk is mitigated some, and since money is not really an issue when it comes to his contract, why would he risk going somewhere where his at-bats could become a bigger issue? Forget all the smoke and mirrors and drawn out process…he’s signing with the Yankees or Mariners.

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      • BlueSkyLA

        8 years ago

        What happens when he slides into second base or has to sprint from first to third on a close play? Or home plate? Is ownership gonna freak?

        Pitchers still come to the plate in the NL. That gets him around 100 PAs on his start days, plus however many additional PH appearances if his bat really is good enough. Even if he bats DH a couple times a week in the AL, that gets him maybe 150 PAs assuming his team doesn’t give up the DH when he starts. Again this is assuming his bat is good enough in to justify him in a DH role over other options. Nobody knows that for sure.

        So maybe not so different between the leagues in terms of how often he bats..

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  6. reflect

    8 years ago

    Reading these Ohtani articles from different teams reminds me of when my friends talk about what they’d do if they win the lottery.

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    • Mikel Grady

      8 years ago

      If I win I’m buying the Cubs Ohtani

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  7. bigcheesegrilledontoast

    8 years ago

    I wonder why Ohtani is going through this process is it just due diligence? He’s coming with all the hype, It’s unnecessary pressure, he’s untested at MLB level yet wants to take on the workload of pitcher and regular playing time.

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    • Cat Mando

      8 years ago

      “I wonder why Ohtani is going through this process”
      For the same reason he signed with the Fighters out of HS instead of the Dodgers…he said…..“They (Nippon) approached me, ‘What do you think about doing both? I definitely wanted to try it. I still thought I had a chance to be a great hitter at a professional level.” He wants to prove he can do the same thing in the US.
      He created a stir in Japan because Nippon used there 1st pick to select a player every other team was convinced would sign in the US.

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  8. andrewgauldin

    8 years ago

    You’re insane if you don’t think every team is in on Ohtani. He is cheap as hell, and the potential is high. Even if he’s a bust, what’s it going to cost the team? Pennies..

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    • bhambravesfan

      8 years ago

      Braves are probably out

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  9. bigcheesegrilledontoast

    8 years ago

    Concentrate on the hitting and throw a few innings of relief every now and then.

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  10. Logjammer D"Baggagecling

    8 years ago

    Really hope the cubs sign him

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    • ChiSoxCity

      8 years ago

      Cubs have a decent shot at signing Darvish AND Ohtani. Top rotation in baseball if that happens, imo.

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      • Logjammer D"Baggagecling

        8 years ago

        Don’t want Darvish. I think he’s more of a risk than Arrieta. Darvish was awful in his WS starts. Arrieta pitched great in game 4 of the NLCS. That could be the difference from a 100mil to a 120+mil deal.

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        • Travis’ Wood

          8 years ago

          You’re out of your mind if you’d rather have Arrieta than Darvish. Darvish is better and younger

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        • Varangian

          8 years ago

          5 months younger. The only thing he’s better at is strikeouts. Both have had one great season and a couple good ones. Arrieta has fallen off but was still as good or better than Darvish. Both are overrated for the money they want.

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        • jdgoat

          8 years ago

          Two starts aren’t the difference between 20 million

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  11. nats3256

    8 years ago

    I’m ignorant on IFA stuff. Are their mandated contracts like their are with the amateur draft where you are owned for 6 years (plus minor league time)? Or could it be possible for a team to offer him a 1 year deal and then he would become a normal FA next year?

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    • BlueSkyLA

      8 years ago

      Because he’s under age 25, teams can only offer him a standard minor league contract and a signing bonus regulated by the international bonus pool rules. If he’d played two more years in Japan he’d be a true free agent and could sign anywhere without limitations.

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      • nats3256

        8 years ago

        Thanks.

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  12. BlueSkyLA

    8 years ago

    Excellent article from Brown, a must-read. As several players and coaches note, the “number of hours in a day” problem is the most significant constraint on whether Ohtani could succeed as a true two-way player in MLB. The preparation and the wear on the body required to do either one well is intense. Nobody knows whether doing both is even possible.

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    • Cat Mando

      8 years ago

      I still have not found a source that says whether it was his decision to stop playing OF and DH or the Fighter’s. Does it mention it in the article? I haven’t read it yet.

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      • BlueSkyLA

        8 years ago

        Good question. It wasn’t in the article, but I think we can find the answer between the lines. Any team is going to be protective of their players. Everything a team asks a player to do requires preparation and results in wear and tear. Playing position required more of both. MLB teams I think are going to be even more protective, and of course the player is also going to age, so they need to take that into consideration as well.

        And the Mad Downvoter strikes again!

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        • Cat Mando

          8 years ago

          Thanks…Gotta love that guy/girl. I have seen people down-voted simply for posting a players slash line in response to a question. I guess some people have issues.
          The Ohtani “era” will definitely be interesting to watch. He is unusual in a good way. I am waiting for the first story out of ST saying “the sushi served in the club house was not up to par, so Ohtani stepped in to show the team chef how it’s done”.

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        • BlueSkyLA

          8 years ago

          It’s the world we live in now, I guess.

          The Ohtani hype tornado is just beginning. Imagine what it will be like after he signs somewhere. All of baseball could get drawn into the vortex. Not looking forward to that part.

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        • Cat Mando

          8 years ago

          True, that could happen. It could also open the door for others though. There are kids right now with all around talent and it’s often squashed.
          My nephew was drafted as a pitcher in the early 2000’s. He was always the best pitcher and hitter on all of his teams from LL up. Even in his first 2 years of HS he was both. Then they got a new coach who shut him down as a hitter completely, would not allow it at all..
          Arm and shoulder derailed him after being drafted and I can’t help but wonder if he could have continued had he been allowed to use both talents.

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  13. Jimcarlo Slaton

    8 years ago

    I would like the Phillies to tell him he’ll be given every opportunity to be in the lineup everyday, as a hitter and pitcher. If he struggles, be patient, because the Phillies are in a position where they can wait for high upside players to put things together.

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  14. Joe giovengo

    8 years ago

    I don’t understand how all you armchair scouts can say he’s going to be a busy or he’s overrated. Do you know something that major league clubs don’t know? Now I’m from PGH. I truly believe the pirates will sign him. They have 2.3 million in monies. I also believe a talent like his comes once in a lifetime

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    • Cat Mando

      8 years ago

      Considering he won the NPB “Best Nine” as a SP and as a DH as well as their MVP award they have nothing to compare him to so I agree. No one knows for sure what he will do. I think optimists want him to succeed because it could change the way we look at game. In a small way he already has just by his statement of….“As long as I have enough money to be able to play baseball and am enjoying baseball, that’s all I’m asking for right now.”

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  15. jdodge22

    8 years ago

    Does anyone realise that the players ultimately wouldn’t want two way players to succeed? That would mean less jobs for them

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    • Brixton

      8 years ago

      hypothetically, sure. However, there are still going to be 25 players being highly paid for playing a children’s game. Plus, most of these potential “two way players” aren’t going to be as good as Ohtani could be. If someone excels at one side of the game, there will be a spot for them

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    • ChiSoxCity

      8 years ago

      Players possessing that combination of talent, skill and stamina to be productive as a pitcher and a position player are rare. Efficiency dictates specialization in most team sports.

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    • sithdude

      8 years ago

      Looking at it a different way, a player who plays 2 positions only fills 1 roster spot allowing for more players to be added to fill out the 25 man roster, like extra bp help. Thus creates more jobs. But the likelihood of 2 way players becoming the norm is next to nothing so I don’t see an impact at all over one player giving it a shot. If he lives up to the hype or not it definitely is an exciting event in baseball this coming season to see him giving it a try.

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  16. justinept

    8 years ago

    Man, Kap (the Chicago reporter) is interesting. He’s as high profile as any journalist in Chicago. But he’s always wrong somehow! His sources are just the worst. He literally whiffed on every trade rumor for the Cubs during the rebuild.

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    • alexgordonbeckham

      8 years ago

      As someone from Chicago, Kap is insufferable to listen to.

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      • Cachhubguy

        8 years ago

        You meant to say, as a White Sox fan, the Cubs pregame and postgame commentator is insufferable.

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    • alexgordonbeckham

      8 years ago

      And also, just because a trade doesn’t happen doesn’t mean it wasn’t being discussed.

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  17. beetlejuice

    8 years ago

    Some team who wants him should sign Ichiro like NOW!

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    • yanks1990

      8 years ago

      DOnt need him when you have Tanaka. Him and Tanaka worked out last offseason, so guessing they’re friends.

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  18. rycm131

    8 years ago

    There is 0 percent chance of the A’s signing this guy

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    • beetlejuice

      8 years ago

      Even if the A’s did sign him Billy Beane would trade him next off season to a team for a couple of slugs.

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      • arc89

        8 years ago

        Same was said about Cespedes the A’s couldn’t sign him. Its going to be fun watching all the crows being served for dinner.

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    • pspahn

      8 years ago

      You never know. He’s a really good fit for this team (he’s a good fit for many teams, I get that).

      No matter what, until he establishes what his value is as a two-way player, nobody really knows and he does represent some risk. An injury and now you’re down a pitcher and a bat?

      I think he’d do well to establish his value in Oakland and test the market after a few years.

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  19. redsoxrob9418

    8 years ago

    Must be nice to have superstar status and have never played a single major league game

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  20. AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

    8 years ago

    I bet the Rays get him and Stanton!

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  21. andrewgauldin

    8 years ago

    Makes sense for the Halos to sign Ichiro and Ohtani. It makes sense for every team lol. But from a offensive standpoint. The angels need a 4th outfielder (Ichiro) and could use another left handed bat that could see some time at 1B, DH, and fill in a 5th outfielder role (Ohtani). Idk if Ohtani can play 1B, but it is a thought… plus there’s no pressure on Ichiro or Ohtani, or even pressure from the Angels if they struggle because they have arguably the outfield in the game… or close to it.

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    • andrewgauldin

      8 years ago

      Best outfield*

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      • stubby66

        8 years ago

        Ok your hearing it hear first. Philadelphia will sign Jarvish along with Ohtani and trade for Stanton. Then they will use Ohtani semi regularly in LF or 1b. Use him as a swingman or spot starter for first year sign Ichiro for 4th outfielder so he can also help young players with hitting. Then they can make some couple of small signings like Chatwood and a couple of small trades like bringing in Hand and Colome

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        • Bart

          8 years ago

          Why would Ootani want to go to the Baghdad of the USA, Philly?

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        • andrewgauldin

          8 years ago

          You’re an idiot. Btw, A brad hand or Alex colome trade is not a “small trade”

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        • Cat Mando

          8 years ago

          “Ok your hearing it hear first. Philadelphia will sign”……is that why the Earth just shook there?
          I am a Phillies fan but I doubt it. I have a feeling it will be an AL club not located in NY.

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        • NotCanon

          8 years ago

          What does this even mean? Is it an Islamophobic thing? A racist thing? A violent crime rate thing? A falafel thing? A complete non-sequitor?

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        • stubby66

          8 years ago

          Wow I’m glad a couple of you can’t take a joke. I apologies for saying Jarvish instead of Darvish. You know sometimes it is just fun to think outside the box a little. One thing you won’t hear is me ripping on others because I try to show respect to others

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        • raef715

          8 years ago

          part of the Phils pitch is that Ohtani can watch Lebron when he signs with the sixers after this season.

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  22. oldyank55

    8 years ago

    …or better stated if he can play for the Yankees, like Matsui did.

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  23. 22222pete

    8 years ago

    He is going to be a Yankee unless Cashman totally blows it. No team has what they do to offer him. Top brand, good young team, most bonus money, lots of endorsement opportunities, direct flights to Japan, veteran star Japanese pitcher (and 2 retired Japanese stars in Matsui and Kuroda who enjoyed their NY experience) , new stadium, large japanese population (resident and visitors), big wallets for future extension, new ST facilities, short porch made for LH hitters, etc

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    • BlueSkyLA

      8 years ago

      Yankees fans quickly forget that Kuroda pitched for the Dodgers long before he signed with the Yankees. They’ve also employed (off the top of my head) Saito, Isihii, Darvish, and currently Maeda. Not to mention, Dave Roberts is half Japanese and was born in Japan. Southern California also has a Japanese-American population that goes back well over a century. Other than that, all advantages to the Yankees. Because, you know.

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      • rivera42

        8 years ago

        And the Yankees have had Irabu, Igawa, Ichiro, Matsui, Kuroda, and Tanaka play for them. What is your point?

        I think it will come down to the Yankees, Dodgers, Rangers, and Mariners. I think the Yankees have the most to offer Ohtani overall, however, of course it all depends on what Ohtani wants and where he’ll feel most comfortable.

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        • BlueSkyLA

          8 years ago

          My point was stated clearly. No need to repeat it.

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        • rivera42

          8 years ago

          Your point was irrelevant though. Ohtani is clearly a unique case from all the other Japanese players that have come over. Also, why bring up the fact that Kuroda pitched in LA before NY, unless you feel that will impact Ohtani’s decision in any way? Yankees have a long history of Japanese players themselves, so your “point” is pretty moot.

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        • BlueSkyLA

          8 years ago

          You aren’t reading what I wrote as a response to the original point. Yankee fans and the New York media are inventing advantages in signing Ohtani that are not actually unique to the Yankees. So my point is hardly moot, and hardly irrelevant. It refutes this argument with facts.

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  24. jd396

    8 years ago

    I think the big question is just whether he’s really a legitimate force on the mound in the MLB, *and* a legitimate force at the plate in the MLB. It takes an incredible amount of talent and work to do one, and an incredible amount of an entirely different type of talent and work to do the other. If he really has enough of both, time will tell. I think history has shown that you have to really take an NPB offense with a tablespoon or two of skepticism.

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  25. LA Sam

    8 years ago

    Day 119 of the Ohtani saga…..his agent has sent out ANOTHER 30 team questionnaire…..where does your organization stand on including eel as part of post-game buffet spread….? A bold gambit on his and his agent’s part…..coming down too sushi….

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  26. GarryHarris

    8 years ago

    I’m going by memory: In 1976 or 1977 when Ken Brett was pitching for the ChiSox against the Tigers, I remember Al Kaline doing color for Tiger TV and told the story of Ken Brett. Ken Brett was touted as a sure thing Red Sox superstar SP / CF. He was called up after one year in the low minors and used in the tight pennant race and WS. The next season, he missed spring training due to military service. Since he was fresh from military service, the Red Sox deemed him physically fit and pitched him in AAA the entire game in order to rush him to the show. After the game, his arm went dead and was never the same. .

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  27. lowtalker1

    8 years ago

    Let’s all just hope he lands in sd

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  28. Dogham

    8 years ago

    The good news is Shohei Ohtani is going to the Mariners.

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  29. raef715

    8 years ago

    so articles state how much money teams have to sign him, then you read other articles about teams acquiring more money so they can sign him. didnt teams have choice of leftover money from 17 or they can use their 18 money?

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  30. Gwynning's Anal Lover

    8 years ago

    Does the MLB drug policy also apply to the management, because the Pirates management is obviously on crack.

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  31. Segovia3047

    8 years ago

    Is there a rule that says Ohtani can’t be traded once he’s signed, Could the team who signs him Hypothetically trade him to say the Yankees for multiple top prsospects?

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    • Cat Mando

      8 years ago

      I would imagine any attempt to trade him would fall under Attachment 46…. section H… Circumvention,.
      It would also damage the reputation of that club when future deals with NPB arise.
      mlbplayers.com/pdf9/5450407.pdf

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  32. SheltonMatthews

    8 years ago

    He’s going north of the border.

    Toronto in a surprising move. Book it, ya feel me?

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  33. Padres2019ha

    8 years ago

    Apparently, according to Yahoo Japan, t’s down to 3 teams.

    Yankees, Dodgers, aaaand My Padres!!

    Preller has been scouting this kid since his time w the Rangers. Also here he prefers to sign w a team who doesn’t have a Japanese star already. Padres FO has Nomo, Otsuka, and Saito. His agent is from SD,his former trainer is employed by The Padres,and maybe he likes the fact he won’t have enormous pressure to perform right away and can get acclimated. One can only hope

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